Remember. . .this exchange I had with Center for Security Policy President and leading neocon force in Washington Frank Gaffney was done for charity to benefit the Leukemia and Lymphoma Society — probably the only thing that Frank Gaffney and I basically agree on.
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Some of you will find it interesting, and others will go a bit crazy over it. One person who watched the exchange live online wrote to me that he liked the debate a lot — but wish we had had one genuinely “left” person in the mix. I agree generally — but I think that the distinctions between my views and Frank Gaffney’s are stark enough and capture the differences between pragmatic, progressive realism and ideological fundamentalism.
But it was interesting and a challenge. Our moderator was Foreign Policy executive editor and former Washington Post Outlook page editor Susan Glasser.
I hope you are enjoying a holiday weekend, whether spiritually connected — or just one self-designed.
— Steve Clemons
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