Room 871 and Generic DC Hubris


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I am sitting at JFK Airport preparing to depart for Saudi Arabia in a couple of hours — and thought I’d post this picture I took of myself last week, standing next to Room 871 of the Mayflower Hotel — the grand establishment where Aldrich Ames took his first $50,000 from the Soviets launching his notorious spying career.
Room 871 was the rendezvous point for New York Governor Eliot Spitzer when he last met a hired playmate.
For some reason, while I really am not that animated one way or the other by the Spitzer sex scandal, the room itself represents to me ‘hubris’.
It reflects how I feel about Hillary Clinton’s Bosnia sniper story — or Barack Obama’s claims that he will stop climate change, end American dependence on foreign oil. Room 871 reminds me of John McCain’s walk through an Iraqi marketplace in a flak jacket and several squads of protective sniper and police forces. It reminds me of the Clinton’s $109 million take in eight years — and Hillary’s feigned surprise yesterday that her husband really could make money when he left public service. The room reminds of Obama getting a stage and sound crew to produce a tape — with echo effects and all — re-creating his October 2002 opposition to the Iraq War.
I think Barack Obama is going to win the Democratic primary in the end, but none of these folks deserves an easy win. I think it’s going to be a close race between McCain and the Dem nominee that is punctuated by bubbles of overstatement, hyperbole, just going too far with gravity-defying platitudes and rhetoric, and then busts when reality punctures the silliness.
More later — but I wanted to let DC visitors know that anyone can go up to the 8th Floor of the Mayflower at this point and snap a quick shot next to a symbol of political hubris.
— Steve Clemons


19 comments on “Room 871 and Generic DC Hubris

  1. Steve Clemons says:

    Greg — just send a note to Bill Burton at his campaign. These are direct quotes from radio show commentary in Pennsylvania that I heard Obama give.
    If you google the text of the various debates, you will also find that Obama said “stop climate change” on a number of occasions.
    Best regards,
    Steve Clemons


  2. Greg says:

    “Barack Obama’s claims that he will stop climate change, end American dependence on foreign oil.”
    I’d like a link to this as well. I don’t think that I’ve ever heard him say anything like this.
    His website says re climate change:
    “Obama supports implementation of a market-based cap-and-trade system to reduce carbon emissions by the amount scientists say is necessary: 80 percent below 1990 levels by 2050.”
    And with regard to foreign oil:
    “Obama will establish a 25 percent federal Renewable Portfolio Standard (RPS) to require that 25 percent of electricity consumed in the U.S. is derived from clean, sustainable energy sources, like solar, wind and geothermal by 2025.”


  3. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Oh, is that the only problem, getting rid of Bush? That era is almost over”
    The Bush “era” will last at least a generation for us here in the states, (probably longer), in monetary cost, loss of credibility and respect, etc..
    However, for the Iraqis, it will last far far longer, particularly down the road when we are no longer able to deny the huge costs they will pay by living in an environment saturated with DU dust.


  4. Mardé says:

    “Do you always take such long naps? I mean, hey, I realize sleep is inportant…but isn’t eight years a bit excessive?”
    Oh, is that the only problem, getting rid of Bush? That era is almost over. What comes next is the question. Is Nader any worse than Obama?


  5. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “I hope things aren’t as bad as he says and thinks they are, but maybe they are that bad”
    Do you always take such long naps? I mean, hey, I realize sleep is inportant…but isn’t eight years a bit excessive?


  6. Mardé says:

    I must say I enjoy the PissedOffAmerican with his great over the top pissedoffedness. I hope things aren’t as bad as he says and thinks they are, but maybe they are that bad. If so, then why not vote for Ralph Nader, just for laughs. The world as we know will be ending soon anyway.


  7. ringo says:

    Thanks for the post, it is one of my favorites of recent weeks.


  8. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Perhaps you are confused as to what the “blog” is, as opposed to the “comments section”.
    Hypothetically, lets suppose for a minute that Steve adhered to the wishes of every idiotic troll, like yourself, that decided they didn’t like the comments of a certain poster. Do you suppose, that there is anyone that posts regularly here who does not have a few readers that disagree, or are irritated by the commentary?
    So, where does Steve draw the line, genius? Or do you picture yourself as Steve’s personal site monitor?
    Well, do you suppose I might get banned if I tell you to go screw yourself? Personally I tend to think your brand of snide and petty back door bitchiness is far more worthy of banishment. But hey, what do I know?


  9. Mr.Murder says:

    Barack “Who Could Have Imagined?” Obama
    No wonder he voted for Condi Rice as Sec.of State.


  10. Robert Morrow says:

    Guess what Bill Clinton was doing in the MAYFLOWER HOTEL on April 4th, 1968, the very day (night)that Martin Luther King was assassinated?
    Bill was having SEX with Dolly Kyle Browning, his former high school girlfriend, who was also 8 MONTHS PREGNANT with her second child and married to another man. [Dolly Kyle Browning, Purposes of the Heart, pp. 85-87; a roman a clef about her longtime “love” with Bill Clinton.]
    Also, wild Bill, as usual, did NOT use a condom!
    On April 4th, 1968, the day MLK was assassinated, Bill Clinton was having sex with 8 1/2 month PREGNANT Dolly Kyle Browning!
    Of course, his former high school girlfriend Dolly Kyle was married to someone else and already had a kid, but that has never stopped Bill before; wild Bill did
    NOT use a condom (he almost never does, just ask the crack whore Bobbie Ann Williams, Gennifer Flowers and Juanita Broaddrick who Bill raped on 4-25-78)
    On the day that Martin Luther King was assassinated on April 4th, 1968, wild Bill had sex (for the first time) with his 8 MONTH PREGNANT former high school girl friend Dolly Kyle Browning who had come to visit him at Georgetown. She was then married and already had a one kid with the man she was married to, and another one was IN THE OVEN (8 months pregnant). This was the FIRST time Bill ever had sex with his former high school girlfriend Dolly Kyle (isn’t that a little late, after she has already married another man, has a kid, and is 8 and 1/2 months pregnant with her second child?) Dolly was having troubles with her young marriage and had come to Georgetown to visit her old high school boyfriend Bill, who was in college at Georgetown in Washington, DC. The day was April 4th, 1968, the very day Martin Luther King was assassinated in Memphis, TN.
    You can read all about this in Dolly Kyle Browning’s roman a clef Purposes of the Heart in which Dolly describes her long relationship and affair with wild Bill. Dolly Kyle was Bill’s very lovely high school sweetheart and the fact that Bill would later hook up with Hillary when he could have had Dolly, tells me there must be multiple screws loose in wild Bill’s head.
    “Roman a clef” is French for a “novel with a key.” It is when an author describes real life events behind the facade of a supposedly fictional novel. Purposes of the Heart (1997) is Dolly Kyle Browning’s roman a clef about her life relationship with Bill.
    Wild Bill has been completely sexually out of control for his entire life: hundreds of affairs, a rape or two or three under his belt; he exposed himself to Paula Jones and asked her to “Kiss it;” he exposed himself to Carolyn Moffett in 1978 and told her to “Suck it;” plus several other crude, vicious assaults on women where he bites their lips and pretty much jumps all over them.
    Dolly Kyle was not the only pregnant chick wild Bill used to have sex with. By the early 1980’s he was hopping in bed with 4 month pregnant crack whore Bobbie Ann Williams, who is probably the mother of his only child, Danny Williams, born in the 1980’s. Chelsea is probably the seed of Webb Hubbell, not Bill Clinton.
    Street hooker Bobbie Ann says that Bill screwed her when she was 4 months pregnant (!) with his alleged future son. Bobbie Ann said in 1992:
    “I was still working the street into the fourth month I was carrying Bill’s baby. And Bill got a special kick out of having sex with pregnant women. He said that pregnancy makes gals hotter.
    When I told him that he was the father of my baby, he just laughed. He rubbed my big belly and said, ‘Girl, that can’t be my baby.’
    But I knew it was. I just had this kind of woman’s feeling that this was his child.” – Bobbie Ann Williams
    [Clinton Confidential, p. 179, originally in the Globe (2/17/92)]
    Bill thought “pregnancy makes gals hotter” on April 4th, 1968, when he had sex with 8-month pregnant Dolly Kyle Browning (for the first time ever … but not the last)
    Purposes of the Heart, pp 85-87:
    Cameron = Bill Clinton
    Kelly = Dolly Kyle Browning, Bill’s former high school girl friend
    “I’m not sleepy and why do you think Nixon will win?” [Cameron = Bill Clinton]
    “Well, I am sleepy, and there are some things I just know. One is that I want you to sing me to sleep,” Kelly [Kelly = Dolly Kyle Browning] smiled, remembering the nights he sang Elvis tunes to her.
    “You want me to sing you to sleep here?” Cameron asked, finally understanding.
    Kelly nodded. “It’s safe. And no matter what you do, I won’t get pregnant.” [nice to know …]
    Cameron realized that he had been avoiding this issue all evening. Here was Kelly, alone with him and, though pregnant, as willing and available, and amazingly as desirable, as she had always been. Why had he always stopped short of making love to her? [Not tonight, when she was 8 1/2 months stacked up!] He still could not face his answer.
    “I should go,” Cameron whispered.
    “Of course, you should,” Kelly agreed.
    “This isn’t right,” he added.
    “Of course, it’s not.”
    They stared at each other in awkward silence.
    “But, as you said,” Kelly quoted, “‘What good is it to be right if you are voted out of office?'”
    “Are you always going to feed my words back to me?” Cameron grinned.
    “Somebody should. If you knew you’d have to eat all of them, maybe you’d regulate the flow.”
    Cameron nodded and obeyed, emerging in a few minutes from the bathroom wrapped in a thick hotel robe.
    “I don’t have anything to wear to bed,” he explained unnecessarily.
    “I’m sure you at least have a condom stashed in your wallet somewhere.”
    Cameron [ = Bill Clinton] shook his head. “I never use condoms. I hate them.”
    Kelly [= Dolly Kyle Browning] frowned and started to scold him for ignoring all the dangers of herpes and God-only-knows-what other diseases, but decided against it. Instead, she turned back the bed covers and motioned for him to get in.
    “We’ve been naked together enough times before,” she reminded him. [but they had never had sex … until now]
    “Oh, God! I remember. And you were so beautiful!”
    “Things have changed, Cameron,” Kelly said quietly, acutely aware of her ever-growing body.
    Cameron leaned over and kissed her gently on the mouth.
    “Your lips are the same, if not more delicious,” she whispered.
    Then Cameron buried his face in her hair, kissing her ear, her throat, and softly calling her name.
    Kelly reached over to turn off the lamp, but Cameron stopped her. Taking her hand, he began kissing her fingers and licking her palm.
    “Please leave the light on. I want to see you.” Cameron kissed her again and, with his left hand, he began undoing the dainty pearl buttons on the front of her gown. “You are so beautiful,” he murmured, kissing her throat and slowly moving downward.
    Kelly sighed, remembering all that nights she had been with Cameron, his touch, his kisses, and his soft words. She frowned, wondering for the thousandth time why he had never actually made love to her, why he always held back.
    “Cameron,” Kelly took his face in her hands and spoke firmly, resolved not to have another night of frustration with him, “if you are not going to make love to me, completely, I want you to stop. Now.”
    “Oh, Kelly,” he gazed into her pale green eyes, “I promise I will make love to you. Completely. Tonight. And I will never stop.” [wild Bill waited until Dolly was 8 one-half months pregnant with her second child before he took the dive on 4-4-68]
    Once again, Cameron began to unbutton the tiny pearls, kissing her gently and whispering her name. Kelly responded with a smile and reached to loosen the sash on his luxurious robe, separating the fabric gently with her hands, then pulling his body close. [Dolly Kyle Browning, Purposes of the Heart, pp. 85-87]


  11. POV says:

    Steve Clemons,
    You write something interesting things.
    Don’t you think it’s time you split off from POA’s blog and go it alone?
    You can do it!


  12. diddler hussein says:

    I voted for Bill Clinton twice.
    I voted for his wife in the Massachusetts primary.
    I listened to her talk about her reaction to Martin Luther King being murdered and I had the exact, same impression that PissedOffAmerican had.
    It was as transparent and as unbelievable as a 4-year-old’s first lie.
    When are you coming to Massachusetts to see me, PissOffAmerican?
    I want you.


  13. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Awhile back, I was listening to the local RW radio hag, this “Inga Barks” idiot out of Bakersfield, (Kern Radio, 1410 AM). I think she aspires to be the next Ann Coulter, or maybe Rush Limbaugh sans the shrunken conads.
    Anyway, I’m driving, kinda half-assed listening, and I hear her say “The Red Cross hates jews”. Well, THAT got my attention. So I called, and got through, on the air. We argued, she stuck by her statement. Well, I won’t get into what her logic was in making such an asinine and irresponsible public statement, for that isn’t the point of this post. Suffice to say, it escalated, and the local newspaper, her boss, and myself got into a bit of a spat. The outcome was that she, on the air, DENIED she had ever made such a comment, and she threatened, on the air, to sue me, if I ever accused her of saying such a thing again.
    Now, mind you, here’s this public figure, that made a statement ON THE AIR, that potentially THOUSANDS of people heard her say, and the blathering ass gets on the air and denies she said it. Meanwhile, her boss claims that her shows aren’t recorded. How convenient, eh? (I believe we can be fairly confident a recording of THAT show doesn’t exist, anyway.)
    Whats my point? Well, these three jackass “Presidential Candidates” remind me of this buffoon Inga Barks, who thinks the act of denying she said something will effectively erase the memories of everyone that heard her make the statement she now denies making. I personally was able to find three people that heard her make the statement, without much effort on my part.
    Whats different about this pure unmitigated horseshit we are hearing from these candidates? Does anyone REALLY believe Hillary just “mispoke” when she related this fantasy of dodging bullets on the tarmack after sitting on her kevlar vest so she wouldn’t catch a round in her overample ass? Or perhaps we are, with straight face, supposed to ignore the fact that a number of McCain’s campaign staff are Airbus lobbyists, right on the heels of Airbus beating Boeing out of a huge tanker contract. Or maybe this wonder boy, Obama, really did sit, catatonic, for twenty years in the same pew, never hearing a word good ‘ol Reverend Wright was screaming from his pulpit.
    If this circus wasn’t so pathetic, it would be comical. But worse than pathetic, its dangerous. Are we really going to hand the football to one of these lying posturing crooks? I guess so. After all, we gave it to Bush, didn’t we?


  14. PissedOffAmerican says:

    If anyone is seriously thinking about voting for Hillary, they should listen to a recording of Hillary describing her reaction to the news that MLK had been asassinated.
    I have NEVER heard such melodramatic bullshit in my life from a presidential candidate. Bad acting, blatantly assumed airs, despicably contrived voice inflection. It was truly astounding to hear such pure CRAP coming from someone who is vying for the White House. I am no fan of this empty suit Obama, but I haven’t seen anything from him quite as blatantly false and contrived as this latest shit from Hillary.
    Gads, please, beam me up Scotty. Are these three jackasses REALLY the best we can come up with?


  15. koreyel says:

    I’ve heard Barack say a lot of times that he isn’t perfect and neither is his candidacy. Perhaps that is a new form of camouflage DC hubris?
    Can’t say I’ve heard him say this though:
    “Barack Obama’s claims that he will stop climate change, end American dependence on foreign oil.”
    Anybody got a link for that?
    Thanks in advance.


  16. Kathleen says:

    Wow, I can’t believe I could post. I was thinking the spam filter didn’t like the ‘I” word or the name “Nader”.


  17. Kathleen says:

    testing, one, two, thre…. I’m beginning to wonder”. The ‘I” word, percchance what the spsm filter considers “porne”…. the “I” word perchance????
    Or maybe its the name “Nader’???


  18. Zathras says:

    Rampant hubris in the political class is too easy a diagnosis to be relied upon. It rests on the assumption that people in government and politics at the highest levels are different in some fundamental sense from the rest of us, an assumption difficult to credit.
    The perceived value of non-monetary forms of compensation — status, reputation, the deference paid to people who have accomplished something worthy by people who have not — has been in precipitous decline in America for some time now, while the trappings of wealth now appear both gaudier and more attainable than they once did. This may account for the grasping after money and the lifestyle of the extravangantly wealthy on the part of people in public life, but it surely isn’t unique to them. I can’t consider the Clintons’ rush to cash in on their public positions or on former Gov. Spitzer’s taste in recreation without reflecting that two of the most rapidly growing industries in American over the last couple of decades have been gambling and pornography. The distance between the easy money and sleazy entertainment available to the political class and that pursued by a far larger segment of the public doesn’t look that great to me.
    I suppose this view of the matter might lead someone holding it to have a high threshold of shock, but I confess to being taken a little aback at the disclosure of how determined the Clintons were in using their public positions for purposes of extravagant private gain. $109 million is a whale of a lot of money; if its rapid acquisition, by means of ghostwritten books and speeches, by a just-retired President and his wife is not unseemly, then the concept of unseemliness does not exist. Of course, the Clintons were able to get what the market would bear. Of course, other people in public life have done the same (on a smaller scale). Of course — what I suspect is the decisive argument for them and many of their admirers — Clinton is Big Man, she His Woman, so they’re entitled. There are lots of backward countries with backward cultures scattered throughout Asia and Africa where the grasping after wealth, and still more wealth, by leaders in government is viewed in precisely this way. Their example is not one that commends itself to the United States.
    In fact, none of these justifications — it’s the market’s fault, everyone does it, or we have it coming to us — cuts much ice with me. They will all work just fine in Washington, where cashing in on public office is widely regarded less as a threat to good government than as an essential career management skill. I wonder if they will work just as well with the public.
    They might. A while ago President Bush was asked about his thoughts on what he’d do after leaving the Presidency. He gave a characteristically boorish response about doing speeches and replenishing his bank account, and my first reaction was, what’s the point? Bush doesn’t need the money, and wouldn’t if he lived to be one hundred while never working again. If however the point was not to secure his finances but to follow the Clintons’ example and grab as much easy money as he could just because it was there, well of course what Bush said made perfect sense. And that may symbolize where we are headed as a country, stumbling forward through history carrying a burden less of hubris than of decadence.


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