Huckabee Jokes About Assassination Possibility?

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Mike Huckabee spoke to the National Rifle Association on Friday and while on stage, there was noise in the background off stage about which he said, according to CNN:

“That was Barack Obama, he just tripped off a chair, he’s getting ready to speak,” said the former Arkansas governor, to audience laughter. “Somebody aimed a gun at him and he dove for the floor.”

There are a lot of outrageous things being said in this presidential race — and I think it will get much worse, but this is a kind of recklessness that can’t be tolerated.
To put the issue on the table, this is a time when I fear the impact of an assassination attempt on various of our political leaders and the candidates. The impact could upend the American political system at a very fragile time.
To joke about it — and intimate the casual possibility of such a thing is unconscionable.
Huckabee should publicly and immediately apologize.
— Steve Clemons

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39 comments on “Huckabee Jokes About Assassination Possibility?

  1. Arthur says:

    Rev. Huckabee, as Chaplain of the Covenant Militia, has been sounding, at intervals, the Evening & Morning Prayer of Regeneration Through Violence by which the Death’s-Head IS SET BEFORE US via subliminal media invocations. He means what he says but “apologize” for convenience sake: the point being the “N-word Terrorist” got the message and so be it.” The 100-year war to follow. Plus a couple of scores by Dark-Moon 19.
    We forgive you Brother Huckabee because we know where your mindset is coming from before you even get there. Way ‘head of you, Mars Huck; we’s out there further than de moon. Ain’t we though? Into your Grand Tour Rulership, years 1711 to 2153, coming to an early peaceful or bloody end, eh?
    Dead at his feet! Send Rev. Jeremiah Wright one of them Huck-De-Grin, laughable “Willie Lynch” letter. Tickle me toe, will ya, eh, captain suh?
    Dr. Arthur J. Graham cracked the racist code in the language and invented the term “subliminal racism” that has been plagiarized and twisted to no end. Learn more: Jive Turkey “Free At Last” by Habakkuk 2:2 at “Shop Talk” RE
    http://www.subliminalracism.com/G5SubscribersClub-JiveTurkey.html

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  2. David says:

    Man, the Huckabee comment is as bad as my worst thoughts about it. I knew it was as far as where it came from in Southern history, but I had no idea Huckabee was so directly infused with that mindset. So maybe he’s like an apparently affable latter day White Citizens Councilista?

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  3. rich says:

    What, POA, no link?
    Here’s one account, though it does not come close to doing the story justice.
    http://blog.washingtonpost.com/the-trail/2007/12/26/looking_down_the_barrel_of_cau.html

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  4. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Rich’s account of Huckabee’s actions during a hunt didn’t ring quite true to me. I simply found it impossible to imagine that anyone would display such stupidity about handling firearms, particularly a public figure being observed by the press. So, I did a little search, and found out that the event did in fact happen, and was described accurately by Rich. Such an action in the field, should I find myself hunting with such an asshole, would result in me refusing to share the field with him. He would either abandon the hunt, then and there, or I would. And he would never hunt with me again, nor would anyone I know hunt with someone that handled firearms in that manner. In truth, most people I have hunted with would forcibly take his weapon away from him if he refused to relinguish it, and he’d be lucky to get it back. In fact, he’d be lucky if he didn’t get his ass kicked.
    Apparently common sense is no longer a prerequisite to administering our government. They’ll give any ignorant yahoo the keys to our capital.

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  5. rich says:

    There’s another reason Huckabee’s comment was disturbing.
    During the primaries he did a pheasant/duck hunting photo-op. The DC Republican party hacks & media were trying to force him out of the race and he was irritable about it.
    So he answered a pre-hunt question with a comment about ‘what happens when you hunt with Dick Cheney’.. .
    . . and at the end of the hunt, turned and fired a shotgun over the heads of the press gaggle.
    The Washington Post account quotes a DC(Post) reporter as crying out, “I’ve been traumatized!” (No lie.)
    So there’s more going on there than just poor choice of words or an offhand joke that fell flat.
    Mike Huckabee likes to send messages. And he’s not subtle about it. It’s well worth thinking about what kind of response he’s trying to generate.

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  6. tony says:

    has huckabee been seen since this appearance? has he been asked
    about it? has he apologized?

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  7. Mr.Murder says:

    Not a reach for Huckabee, see also Dumond.

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  8. George says:

    For what it’s worth, Obama has very good security. Apparently someone has already figured out that he’s at some degree of risk, and further that an assassination would lead to some serious trouble in this country.

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  9. EA says:

    Was Lincoln, whom I revere, wrong to endeavor to keep us, North and South, united? The past decade really makes me wonder. Was Antietam worth keeping the hemorrhoid known as the South attached to our lower end?
    Islam has its Sunnis and Shias; America has its Red and Blue. Same beaker but insoluble.
    EA

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  10. Frank says:

    Huckachmuck….too flatering.
    He said in a Freudian manner what many of us fearfully think. To say it on a podium stirs the crazys, and if anyone knows this, it is a preacher.

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  11. TokyoTom says:

    “Arresting someone that is ignoring a Congressional subpoena does not require a Congressional act. You simply send the marshalls in and arrest the criminal. Period. … Congress doesn’t need to do anything, except send in the goons and frog march the piece of shit into the slammer.”
    POA, two problems. First, you seem to confuse the current Congresscritters in both houses as men with sufficient fortitude to actually stand up for themselves. Presently, they hardly even seem to consider themselves as consituting a branch of government, which explains why the public approval rating of Congress is 10 points below Bush’s.
    Second, Congress hasn’t used its inherent contempt powers to arrest someone for close to 200 years and has no infrastructure for doing so. That makes it singularly unlikely that it is going to start now.
    There is a criminal statute that makes contempt of Congress a crime, but that would require prosection by US attorneys – something not at all a certainty when it is the administration’s own contempt that is at issue:
    http://www.fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/RL34097.pdf
    http://www.slate.com/id/2165127/

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  12. karenk says:

    I feel compelled to inform that, as distasteful as the comment may be, the thought of it apparently has crossed people’s mind’s. Recently four different people at different places/times, have mentioned to me that they thought if Obama got the nomination or became president he’d be shot. I was gonna ask Steve what he thought about these comments but I thought they were pretty irresponsible, so I didn’t want to perpetuate. Now Huckabee is saying this? Wow, jerk.

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  13. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Conyers et al. can hold hearings, but can’t really do anything without a veto-proof majority”
    Arresting someone that is ignoring a Congressional subpoena does not require a Congressional act. You simply send the marshalls in and arrest the criminal. Period. And Johnson is currently in contempt of a Supreme court order, and again, Congress doesn’t need to do anything, except send in the goons and frog march the piece of shit into the slammer.

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  14. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “BTW, is there a typo in your last paragraph where I assume you meant to write “Bush” but wrote “Johnson?””
    No, Linda, I meant “Johnson”, who is the head of the EPA, and has spent the last few months telling California, the Supreme court, and a Congressional committee to go fuck themselves.
    But thanks for your query, because it plainly underscores how very uninformed the general voting public is, even those, such as yourself, that want to believe themselves informed.
    And no, Linda, I do not understand voting for someone whom I am “hopeful” will enforce the law, despite the fact that they have made no prior substantive attempts to pursue or advocate for accountability. In fact, I find the premise that “I don’t think Obama can say or do much until he is in office as President” is absolute horseshit, and if Obama sees things the same way, than he is unfit for the office.

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  15. samuel burke says:

    in the spirit of the fascist christianity taking over the united
    states of america this former presidential candidate is an
    exemplary representation of the new christian politician patriot.
    Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom
    were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should
    not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from
    hence.
    a very different form of christianity is preached by americas new
    preachers than that delivered to them by the christ…but they are
    doing it to support a very different form of judaism/zionism, so
    it’s justifiable.

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  16. Zathras says:

    I don’t know if anyone has noticed — this morning on the Sunday talk shows Gov. Huckabee didn’t seem to notice it himself — but Huckabee has taken himself off the list of potential McCain running mates.
    He showed appalling taste before the NRA, even though what he seemed to be doing was telling a joke the punch line of which he had forgotten. This is something anyone who speaks in public as often as Huckabee does is going to do from time to time, and I think his apology was as sincere as any politician’s for this kind of thing. But there are some things one just doesn’t joke about, and in the YouTube age that clip of Huckabee at the NRA would be everywhere withing moments of an announcement that he was being considerd for the second spot on the ticket. I didn’t think McCain was going to go for Huckabee anyway, but this will clinch it.

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  17. arthurdecco says:

    I generally agree with everything you write, POA.
    But not this time.
    These outrageous comments supposedly uttered casually by Huckabee in front of an audience of gun nuts need to be tackled head-on by your police services and your judiciary.
    Do you want to live in a banana republic? Alright, then ignore it.
    This is the kind of “humor”, that if left unchallenged, will almost certainly lead to the violent death of someone challenging the criminal actions of the Republican administration that is destroying all you hold dear about your country.
    You have to start somewhere. And why not start with a creep who chose to say this in front of an audience he thought would eat it up? (Kudos to the audience for their shocked silence and whispering afterwards.)
    Remember – it only takes one loose cannon to fulfill the subliminal suggested aspirations of venal creeps like Huckabee. It only takes one crazed ideologue to take this to the next level, doesn’t it?
    Crush Huckabee like a bug, is my suggestion. Destroy his career. Destroy his personal life. Make it clear that if and when anyone crosses the line like he has, there will be SEVERE consequences to pay.
    Is it enough? Of course not. But you have to start somewhere on the path to excising the filth and garbage from your rotten-to-the-core political system – on the path to bringing a modicum of rationality and morality back to your country’s leadership.
    Deal with the featured actors after the next administration is sworn in. But for now, crush the bugs one at a time, as they stick their slimy heads up out of their self-created filth, is my suggestion.

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  18. David says:

    The issues you cite are very real, POA, and absolutely critical to the restoration of our democratic republic. But Goofy Huckabee’s joke is not a sideshow. It is especially disturbing at this time because there is a very real fear among Democrats I know that some racist will assassinate Obama, and there are not only apparently tee shirts or bumper stickers, or something equally moronic, to that effect available in Georgia, that is the response a phone banker for Obama got in West Virginia. This is not just poor taste, this is a deadly serious matter treated as a joke. Glad to hear not that many NRA attendees thought it was funny. They at least understand that it is people who kill other people with guns. That Huckabee could even crack such a joke as a Southerner who has lived among Southern racism, and its legacy of violence, including cold-blooded murder of blacks, is appalling. I don’t give a shit whether he apologizes or not. He has defined for all the world to see who he really is. And he’s a minister, for God’s sake. But then remember why the Southern Baptist Convention was created.
    questions got it right with: “The Repubs have raised a generation of haters for whom explosive, violent rhetoric is amusing. I’m sure this won’t be the only such ‘accidental’ comment we hear.” I can readily imagine Southern republican operatives fanning the fears of an Obama assassination as a reason not to vote for him, and I can imagine some people buying it. Remember what Jesse Helms said about the idea of Bill Clinton visiting a military base in North Carolina. I don’t recall the exact words, but it was a sneering remark that it might not be safe. The idea that that bastard was treated like some kind of statesman when he left the senate still galls me. I think even Madeline Albright delivered some kind of praise for the sonofabitch. The blacksnake who lives under my shed is a superior life form – far superior, and a genuinely good fellow. And I feel the same way about Dick Cheney. If we are to judge people by the consequences of their premeditated actions, those people deserve nothing but condemnation, and in Dick Cheney’s case, impeachment for very high crimes of state.

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  19. wkmaier says:

    This is no joking matter. End of story. If our lame politicians don’t get it, well. End of comment.

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  20. questions says:

    POA,
    I don’t think that the Huckabee remark is a sideshow. I think that it speaks to the soul of a brand of Republican politics that glorifies violence as the correct response to any disagreement or difference. In fact, the appeasement issue is probably related as well. If we do anything other than bomb our “enemies”, we are weak, feminized, appeasers, slaves…. Far better never to talk to “them”, never to negotiate, never to find what we all have in common. Remember the Repub line early on in the Iraq War — “The Democrats want to UNDERSTAND the terrorists; we want to eliminate them”? This kind of rhetoric is what Huckabee was engaging in.
    The Repubs have raised a generation of haters for whom explosive, violent rhetoric is amusing. I’m sure this won’t be the only such “accidental” comment we hear.

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  21. Linda says:

    POA,
    I agree with you almost entirely except for your last paragraph especially about Yoo, Rove, Rice-as I don’t think Obama can say or do much until he is in office as President. And then I will be waiting to see what he does/says. I might be for him, but I wait to verify about what people I vote for actually do in office—and then often am disappointed. The crimes committed by the Bush Administraton are much worse than Watergate. Conyers et al. can hold hearings, but can’t really do anything without a veto-proof majority–and only a new President can define the role of the President differently. Both Nixon and Bush administratons thought that the President has unlimited power and can do anything under the guise of national security. There is absolutely no such power in the Constitution.
    So I hope Obama states some of this clearly and as early as 1/21/09 and then decides what investigations and actions are needed to expose and investigate all that happened under Bush.
    BTW, is there a typo in your last paragraph where I assume you meant to write “Bush” but wrote “Johnson?”

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  22. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Well, this is comical indeed. A non-contender wackjob, yesterday’s wannabe Republican candidate, makes a remarkably stupid slip of the tongue comment before an NRA audience, and the level of indignation, and the number of posts, is rapidly approaching the amount of comments about Yoo’s illegal santioning of illegal acts.
    How long will the American people be so easily hoodwinked into spending our feeble dissentions on inananities, irrelevancies, and obvious diversions?
    Obama has publically commented on this idiot Bush’s statements about appeasement, (which in and of themselves, were “appeasing” towards Israel), and I assume Obama has commented about Huckaschmuck’s idiotic slip of the tongue as well.
    But what has Obama said publically about Yoo, or Rove’s criminal disdain for a subpoena? Or Rice’s? Or Johnson’s contempt for Congress, science, and his own EPA advisors and staff?
    Priorities, people.

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  23. Alan says:

    It seems to be SOP with our politicians that an immediate apology for the most egregious comment is all that is necessary before sailing to the next insult. Huckabee deserves to be given a very public kick in the pants by someone in Obama’s camp. For all his smooth talk he is at heart a mean spirited man.

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  24. Roger says:

    What is the probability that “off-the-cuff” comment was not
    planned or discussed in private more than once?

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  25. Robert Morrow says:

    Speaking of assassination … in recent years a lot of information has trickled out supporting the theory that Lyndon Johnson was behind the assassination of JFK. We know for a fact that LBJ and the Kennedy brothers absolutely hated each other. JFK in 1963 was talking about not having LBJ on the presidential ticket in 1964; there is the deathbed confession of Howard Hunt that LBJ and Cord Meyer of the CIA killed JFK; Barr McClellan wrote a book in 2003 that LBJ and Edward Clark killed JFK; Madeline Brown the LONGTIME, 15-20 mistress of LBJ, wrote a book about their affair in which she says that LBJ was making threats about JFK the night before the killing and she is convinced that LBJ did it.
    Note Barr McClellan worked for years at the law firm that did all of LBJ’s work. 2 of his law partners at that firm confessed to him that LBJ murdered JFK. His book is Blood, Money and Power. Check out this link:
    http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.mackwhite.com/LBJ2.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.mackwhite.com/lbj.html&h=369&w=277&sz=47&hl=en&start=10&sig2=Iu4PTV9ax2XrzDVNdFCZrw&um=1&tbnid=bhdMnZXFVLHi_M:&tbnh=122&tbnw=92&ei=4bMoSOvXCqfuigHzy-GECQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3DJosefa%2BJohnson%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN
    I could go on. But it seems to me that the most probable theory of JFK’s death is that LBJ, along with the CIA, and right-wing Texas businessmen organized the murder of JFK.
    Why do I bring this up? Because I see the same evil qualities in Bill and Hillary Clinton that were in LBJ; namely a willingness to use criminality, beating up people and perhaps killing people to climb the political power. Bill Clinton thinks his role model was JFK because he screwed a bunch of women, but I think wild Bill’s true role model was LBJ because he is a thug.
    HILLARY CLINTON NEEDS TO BE TOTALLY KEPT OFF THE DEMOCRATIC TICKET.
    Robert Morrow Clinton expert Austin, TX

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  26. Carroll says:

    Assassinate Obama and watch how fast the NRA and the neo’s run. The riots that would ensue if Obama was killed would make the billion dollar Watts and Rodney Kings riots look mild.

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  27. bob h says:

    Huckabee should explain himself to the FBI.

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  28. tomj says:

    In his apology, he only apologizes for his offensive comment, he doesn’t apologize for the content of the comment itself.
    This sounds like Pat Buchanan when he says it is an “ugly fact” that Obama has a white-working-class voter problem (because they liked and voted for Hillary).
    There is never an apology for the content, that would concede too much ground. Better to just take the hit on being offensive. Anyway, they only offend the elites.

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  29. via says:

    It seemed to me to be a staged comment, I think it was scripted. And to be fair, at least in the clip I viewed, I didn’t think the audience laughed very much. Even NRA members appeared to recognize that that was beyond the pale.
    Recently there was a story circulating about Obama being an apostate to Islam. I think that was a very thinly veiled invitation for some off-balance fundamentalist to carry out an attack against him.

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  30. David says:

    Huckabee slipped and delivered in a very public place a standard private joke among his ilk, including a significant portion of NRA membership. I ended my membership in the NRA about 35 years ago when I realized where the leadership was headed, and that the membership was generally inclined to follow. GHWB followed suit when the vp of the NRA called the police jack-booted thugs. The sane members of the NRA will do whatever sane people who are still members of the NRA do. Calling Huckabee a fuckwad for his joke won’t lose us any sane NRA members, since they also know he is a fuckwad for cracking such head-up-his-ass joke. But there is no point in railing against Huckabee. I think Steve Clemons got it right in simply saying this kind of irresponsible joke is quite beyond the pale. And since Mike Huckabee does have a major following, he in effect just legitimized that recklessly racist attitude among people who still look up to him, a number I hope dropped significantly when he reflexively cracked that joke. I grew up in a sea of that sort of shit, and it was about legitimizing among friends and acquaintances racism, including violent racism. There is no way for Huckabee to apologize, and I don’t see him admitting what he actually just did, not do I see the NRA facing up to what that joke actually represents.

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  31. Linda says:

    One thing I hope that Obama and the Democrats do with this is use it constructively in the total campaign to divide the sane NRA members from the nuts and win their votes. That won’t happen if progressive, liberal, reasonable people in the cities sound like much of the above. That only increases the divide that has been sold as part of the Republican strategy and is Rovian.
    First, with this Supreme Court it is clear that the second amendment is interpreted to include an individual right to own guns. But lots of intelligent arguments can be made for constitutional limits on them–like not selling assualt weapons that individuals should not own at all and have no sporting purpose, having better sales controls and background checks, trigger locks on handguns in the home, etc. Some of these reasonable restrictions on Second Amendment rights have been allowed to expire. Law enforcement and public health officials have tons of factual evidence to support such legislation.
    And of course, when the Republicans want to distance themselves from Bush and go back to better times, it’s to Reagan who was the last President actually shot. Don’t forget the Brady Bill, etc.
    Indeed Obama and his campaign staff are smart enough to use this and Bush’s Holocaust remarks and will get a more reasonable approach into the campaign and debates. I do think Obama’s appeal really is rising above all this name calling that gets us nowhere and appealing to reason of many gun owners who don’t find these kinds of jokes funny and can be persuaded that some better gun control is needed.

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  32. arthurdecco says:

    Creeps like “MotherFuckabee” obviously are in need of some behaviour modification. Why not start by insisting that this SOB be charged with inciting hatred or advocating a violent act against a political rival? And if such a law doesn’t already exist in the New Banana Republic we all know and loathe as the United States of Amerika, your legislators should ram one through the House this week, just to get this guy good.
    “MotherFuckabee” should be arrested live on television by the most threatening and pugnacious members of your law enforcement agencies and incarcerated in one of your filthiest and dangerous jails while awaiting trial just as he would be in any number of the oppressive states this administration supports around the world.
    I wonder how long the Republicans would keep up their sick veneration of violence in that kind of legal climate.?.

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  33. isittrue says:

    Steve,
    Any comment on the Michelle Obama “Whitey” video story that is making the rounds today?

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  34. Kathleen says:

    As someone at DU aptly said.,”MotherFuckabee”. I’m sorry, I don’t believe the noise was accidental or that the remark was off the cuff.

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  35. MarkL says:

    Look,
    Huckabee’s a creep. Don’t expect any class from him.

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  36. ... says:

    a few of us astrologers are concerned about this very thing in the time window around the end of may – may 31st area… it was quite unsettling to read this whack jobs joke about it..

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  37. DonS says:

    Re the “apology”, at the very least Huckabee doesn’t appear to know the definition of “disparage”.

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  38. Bob Miller says:

    A story at CNN said:
    Huckabee released the following statement regarding his comments Friday, according to the New York Times website:
    “During my speech at the N.R.A., a loud noise backstage, that sounded like a chair falling, distracted the crowd and interrupted my speech. I made an off hand remark that was in no way intended to offend or disparage Sen. Obama. I apologize that my comments were offensive. That was never my intention.”
    I don’t believe that apology rises to the occasion.

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