Fanatics at Home

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I may be a bit late to this story of the Brooklyn-based Jewish Ultra-Orthodox newspaper, Der Tzitung, photo-shopping Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and Obama Counter-Terrorism Adviser Audrey Tomason out of the White House photo of the President’s national security team watching the zap bin Laden operation, but geez — this is pretty bad.
I have met Rabbis from this community and their wives — and have had good conversations with both — about Israel, Judaism, and why shaking hands with women is a no-no. But I never knew that that community — or some parts of it — would engage in this kind of fanatical nonsense.
See the photo above and then the one below.
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I feel very badly for women everywhere who have to deal with this sort of crap. Hopefully, there is a ‘reform movement’ going on even amidst the ultra-orthodox because this should never be allowed to go unchallenged in the United States. This is not freedom of religion but is blatant discrimination.
— Steve Clemons

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13 comments on “Fanatics at Home

  1. Rockerbabe says:

    Editing out Hiliary and other women from important historical photos is a way to ensure that women are not considered “worthy” of historical validation for their roles in our government and society. This was a shameful act by a less than honorable rag. I think everyone of the advertisers should be boycotted for their support of this disrespect of women and their contributions to our society.

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  2. Shaun says:

    I’m pretty sure it’s “Die Tzeitung” and not “Der
    Tzitung,” Steve. All my best, Shaun
    Here is there site: http://ditzeitung.com/

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  3. Carson Ranger says:

    Citing modesty concerns, hipster website removes
    “sexually suggestive” male images from situation
    room photo
    http://www.freewilliamsburg.com/citing-modesty-
    concerns-hipster-website-removes-sexually-
    suggestive-male-images-from-sit-room-photo/

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  4. rc says:

    And while we contemplate the above mugshots of the usual suspects on a murder spree, is this family reaction reasonable? Personally I think it is. The problem with such a high profile state-actor as ObL is there would be little scope for the usual torture routines. And dead men do not speak. What have we the public to fear of his court appearance and explaination and justification etc — or in fact his continued denial of direct involvement in 9/11?

    Bin Laden sons protest to US over ‘arbitrary killing’
    The sons of Osama Bin Laden have criticised the US authorities for carrying out his “arbitrary killing”.
    A statement given to the New York Times newspaper said the family wanted to know why the al-Qaeda leader had not been captured alive. …
    The statement printed by the New York Times was attributed to Bin Laden’s fourth son, Omar Bin Laden, who has repeatedly distanced himself from his father’s ideology.
    The statement said that in absence of a body or photographic evidence, the family were not convinced he was dead.
    But if he was dead, it said, they were questioning “why an unarmed man was not arrested and tried in a court of law so that truth is revealed to the people of the world”.
    Humiliation
    They argue Bin Laden’s killing had broken international law and that figures such as former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein and Serbian President Slobodan Milosevic had been given the chance to stand trial.
    “We maintain that arbitrary killing is not a solution to political problems and crime’s adjudication as justice must be seen to be done.”
    The family said they were demanding a enquiry into why Bin Laden was “summarily executed without a court of law” and demanded the release of his three wives and several children, who are believed to be in Pakistani custody.
    The statement also said the US decision to bury Bin Laden’s corpse at sea had deprived the family of performing religious rites.
    A slightly different version of the report was published on a jihadist websites, said the SITE Intelligence Group.
    It said US President Barack Obama was “legally responsible” for clarifying “the fate of our father” and that the sea burial “demeans and humiliates his family and his supporters”.
    US President Barack Obama has urged Pakistan to investigate how the al-Qaeda leader could live in the garrison city of Abbottabad undetected and to find out if any officials knew of his whereabouts.
    Pakistan’s PM Yousuf Raza Gilani has insisted that allegations of Pakistani complicity and incompetence are “absurd”.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13354995

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  5. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Interesting. A batch of Orthodufus Wackanutteries excise Clinton from a photograph, and its a big deal.
    But shoot some gal in the head for protesting peacefully, and nary a mention.

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  6. Paul Norheim says:

    I can’t resist mentioning that if Hillary had become the POTUS instead of Barack, I would’ve loved to offer a long term Der
    Tzitung subscription to former regular TWN commenter and devoted Hillary-fan WigWag. I hope she’s doing fine in
    Florida.

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  7. rc says:

    Photoshop in bin Laden.
    Photoshop out the women in the WH audience.
    Do their females drive cars?
    Or are they helpless accessories like the Saudi variety?

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  8. Ben Rosengart says:

    Doesn’t this violate the image’s terms of use?

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  9. questions says:

    I s’pose you could think about it this way — the Repbulican pundits are trying to “photoshop” out Obama’s role in all of this and make it quite the Bush event. They are trying to “photoshop” in a whole bunch of torture, which near as I can tell, wasn’t really the thing.
    Is it all THAT different? Beliefs about what things do or don’t belong together are really strongly held, and are pretty fundamental to people’s relationship to their lived space. Indeed, the sense of categorization of experience is fundamental for Kant, and for all of us.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category_%28Kant%29
    (for Kant’s tables…. There are 2 sets and Kant suggests that we use these to organize most fundamentally our experience of the world.) (Filed under more Kant than anyone ever wanted to know!!)
    We organize and order and classify and arrange all over the place.
    Some people might actually (horrors) keep their socks in the same drawer as their pants!!!!!!! OH NOES!
    When you see someone organizing human beings by one or another feature, it often seems pretty awful and yet we make distinctions based on criminality, sanity, (cf Foucault), behavior, age, gender, sexual preferences, hair color, body size and type, and we do it all over the place.
    This one, of course, seems somewhere between silly and troglodytic or whatever, but it is a deeply felt world-ordering sensibility that a huge number of people feel intensely all over the world.
    Some people might not photoshop HRC out of a picture, but they might “photoshop” her out of validity as a political actor, and that, too, is unfortunate.
    I’m going to go redo my sock drawer now, just in case there’s an intruder garment!

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  10. DakotabornKansan says:

    They never publish pictures of women because it could be considered “sexually suggestive?”
    But rewriting history is okay? Denying the important role that women play?

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  11. Paul Norheim says:

    It’s indeed a scary world when you think about it: We’re literally surrounded by BILLIONS of women!
    This reminds me of something I heard back in the 90’s: In the eyes of the Saudi authorities,
    Madeleine Albright was so hot that they censored every single photo of her in the Arab copies of
    Newsweek and Time.

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  12. Caitlyn Antrim says:

    Thanks for this, Steve. The photoshopping of the official photo is
    quite a strong & wrong message to send to young women in any
    community that says that women can be erased from public life
    regardless of their contribution to society just because it is a
    different contribution than the editors believe women should make.

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  13. DonS says:

    “I never knew that that community — or some parts of it — would engage in this kind of fanatical nonsense.” (SC)
    They do. And they will. And because they are a branch of the larger Jewish community, we are not allowed to call them fanatics. And they have a disproportionate influence is Jewish/Israeli politics, especially the right wing variety, hence in Jewish/American politics,

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