The Importance of Knowing the Neocons

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The neoconservative movement has been around for a long time — and now with the news that Bill Kristol is going to have a weekly column in the New York Times, it is clear that the influence of this wing of the policy establishment is going to be around a lot longer.
Jacob Heilbrunn, a former Los Angeles Times editorial writer and now Senior Editor at The National Interest, has a book coming out in a couple of weeks — and I blurbed it.
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I just didn’t imagine the blurb would be so big in the ads, but looks good to me — and I’m going to post it now and then because this book is essential. And what is interesting about it is that it is a fair and honest treatment of the roots and rise of neoconservative thinking.
I was among many who Jacob consulted in his research — but besides thanking people like Michael Lind and me, he thanks Norman Podhoretz and John Bolton. I love the book. The neocons may not love it, but I already know that some of their elders “like” it — and think it’s “fair.”
I recommend They Knew They Were Right highly and will be discussing more down the road.
And one more thing. . .all the Dem candidates should become very, very familiar with this book.
— Steve Clemons

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35 comments on “The Importance of Knowing the Neocons

  1. pauline says:

    Wednesday, December 12, 2007
    Pelosi and Harman Aided and Abetted 9/11 Cover Up
    House Majority Leader Nancy Pelosi is blocking efforts to impeach Bush and Cheney, or to take any other real steps to save America. One of the grounds for impeachment is that the government made knowingly false claims about 9/11.
    Congresswoman Jane Harman chaired the hearing of the House Subcommittee on Homeland Security which pushing for the labeling 9/11 truth sites as terrorist incubators.
    What do these two congresswomen have in common? They were both part of the 9/11 cover up.
    Veteran reporter Robert Scheer gives the background in his opinion piece today in the San Francisco Chronicle. The first two lines of the piece set the stage:
    “When the CIA destroyed those prisoner interrogation videotapes, were they also destroying the truth about Sept. 11, 2001? After all, according to the 9/11 Commission report, the basic narrative of what happened on that day – and the nature of the enemy in this war on terror that Bush launched in response to the tragedy – comes from the CIA’s account of what those prisoners told their torturers.
    Scheer then moves on to Pelosi and Harman’ role in the cover up:
    But what about those congressional leaders who were briefed on the torture program as early as 2002? That includes Democrats like Nancy Pelosi . . . .
    Pelosi claimed that “several months later” her successor as the ranking Democrat, Rep. Jane Harman of Los Angeles County, was advised the techniques “had in fact been employed” and wrote a classified letter to the CIA in protest, and Pelosi “concurred.” Neither went public with her concerns.
    Harman told the Washington Post “I was briefed, but the information was closely held to just the Gang of Four . . . an insider reference to the top members of the House and Senate intelligence committees . . . .
    Not only did the congressional Gang of Four fail to inform the public about the use of torture by our government but they also kept the 9/11 Commission in the dark.
    Pelosi testified before the commission on May 22, 2003 but uttered not a word of caution about the methods used. However, more than two years later on Nov. 16, 2005, Pelosi stated correctly that on the basis of her “many years on the intelligence committee,” she knew that “The quality of intelligence that is collected by torture is … uncorroborated and it is worthless.”
    ***
    As matters now stand, they not only concealed torture but, more significantly, they abetted the waterboarding of our democracy. Pelosi and Harman played an instrumental role in the 9/11 cover up by keeping their knowledge about the interrogation videotapes secret from the 9/11 Commission and from the American people (they weren’t the only ones who knew). This is made all the worse because Pelosi knew that intelligence “collected by torture” is worthless, and yet she never even hinted to the Commission or to anyone else that the CIA’s version of events should be questioned. They could have stopped the whole farce cold — but they chose to go along with it.
    These two congresswomen — who are fighting against 9/11 truth — previously aided and abetted the 9/11 cover up. Is that why they don’t want the truth to come out?
    see –
    http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2007/12/pelosi-and-harman-aided-and-abetted-911.html

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  2. Dan says:

    Steve,
    You say that we should pay attention to the neo-cons, keep them in our knowledge, sort of ‘know thy enemy’ sort of thing. Why? Why not relegate their philosophy where it belongs, to history? Why not make a stand against our enemy here in America – neoconservatism – and say “No more!”
    This is a tainted, deeply flawed philosophy. Why should I taint my liberal philosophy with theirs?

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  3. pauline says:

    from Larisa Alexandrovna, Managing Investigative News Editor of therawstory.com
    “Sibel Speaks Part II: Naming Names…”
    http://www.atlargely.com/2008/01/sibel-speaks-pa.html
    I have decided that after years of not getting anyone to publish what I have found out about the Edmonds case, I am simply going to give you folks some names. I won’t explain what the allegations are, or how these people might fit together or even if they fit together. I also don’t claim to have all the names or know the full story by any means. But I am certain, that brilliant bloggers, researchers, and journalists will finally figure it out:
    Richard Perle
    Doug Feith
    Eric Edelman
    Marc Grossman
    Larry Franklin
    Dennis Hastert
    Roy Blunt
    Dan Burton
    Tom Lantos
    Bob Livingston
    Stephen Solarz
    Graham Fuller
    David Makovsky
    Alan Markovsky
    Enver Yusuf
    Sabri Sayari
    Mehmet Eymur
    And a few phrases for you folks to play around with (in no particular order):
    Gray Wolves
    Shanghai Cooperation Organization
    RAND Corporation
    PNAC
    East Turkmenistan
    Iran
    Syria
    Foreign Policy
    King Faisal
    ISI
    Now start digging kids!!

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  4. PissedOffAmerican says:

    More on the UK Sibel Edmonds article…..
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/1/6/112413/4231/854/431373

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  5. Dave Huntsman says:

    I’m sure there’s nothing “sinister” in William Kristol’s being posted on the NYT. Any more than there has been in the rise of Murdoch and Fox ‘News’; or the Washington Post joining the neocons in past years; any more than Murdoch taking over the WSJ recently.
    I would surely hope that maybe Bill Moyers’ would do a research piece on how William Kristol got this latest gig. For it to come so soon after Murdoch’s coup against the WSJ may not be 100% coincidence.

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  6. TonyForesta says:

    POA detailed expose’s on Sibel Edmonds (who was never interviewed by the partisans in the 9/11 commission, nor was Indira Singh whose Ptech disclosures mirror Edmonds claims) should remind all American’s that the Bush governments (neocons) 9/11 narrative is full of holes, and a totally unacceptable hollow explanation.
    America needs and must demand a real investigation into the events surrounding 9/11. A real investigation would expose the fascists in the Bush government as either woefully incompetent, or (and this is my opinion) COMPLICIT in the mayhem and massmurder on 9/11.
    A real investigation would undermine the GOP’s 9/11 talking points. For example, the only way to succeed in destroying the malignancy of jihadist islam is to pay surely visits to mecca, Medina, Rhyadh, and Islamibad, and forcing the jihadist (wahabi/salafists) imams and clerics to quit teaching the bloodthristy malignancy of jihadist islam. This does not, and should not involve huge invasions and occupations, but smaller covert and special ops, hunter/killer teams who look like, dress like, act like, and speak like our enemies.
    All the funding to these cleric and imams, most of which orginates in the palace halls of the House of Saud and their maddrasses and mosques must by cut off completely, and any cleric or imam or Saudi prince that fails to comply should be relentlessly bhunted, captured, or preferably killed
    It is absurd and foolish for Ameicans to buy into the GOP narrative of existential threats against America by the freaks and perverts of jihadist islam. They have no air power, sea power, and are incapable of acting in anyway outside of well planned and funded terrorists operations. They fight with AK-47’s RPG’s and IED’s against the worlds most technologically advanced and lethal hypersuperior military the world has ever known. What real threat to these primitive freaks and perverts pose to America? Be honest. America can easily defeat these monsters if we quit wasting blood, treasure, time, resources, and credibity in Iraq and start focussing the real central points in the neverendingwaronterror in Saudi Arabia and Pakistan.
    9/11 was at best a catastrophic FAILURE of the fascists in the Bush government, more than a victory for the jihadists. A decent and attentive government, would not have allowed the horrors and mass murder of 9/11 to occur in the first place.
    Yet, that PearlHarborlikeevent has enabled the fascist in the Bush government, (neocons) to dismantle and reengineer the Constitution entrenching power in the death grip of a few individuals and oligarchs who operate with impunity above, beyond, outside, and in total disdain of the rule of law, the laws of the land, and the core principles that formally defined America. Further, the PearlHarborlikeevent of 9/11 has enabled and allowed the fascists in the Bush government and their vetted oligarchs to profiteer wantonly from the occupation of Iraq and the neverendingwaronterror. Oil at $100.00 a barrell is exceedingly lucrative to the oil and energy oligarchs that BushCheneyRiceRumsfeld and many others are deeply entrenched in and pathologically committed to control the worlds oil and energy resources. The private military, intelligence and PR (re: propaganda and disinformation warfare) companies are another source of unimaginable profits in the form of nobid, openended contracts with no accounting, scrutiny, legal recourse, or accountability.
    The fascists in the Bush government love and use the horrors and massmurder of 9/11 as an insidious excuse to redefine and reengineer America’s democracy, and profiteering wantonly from the catastrophic waste of blood and treasure in Iraq, and the equally failing (there is no military solution to the Iraq debacle regardless of the success of the surge, and there is no political progress thus far) and the woefully mismanaged neverendingwaronterror.
    9/11 is the key to undermining the GOP’s only real talking point, which is based on fearmongeriing and terrorizing the American people and sliming democrats for not bowing to the fascist machinations of the Bush government.
    “Deliver us from evil!”

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  7. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Carroll, repost your link. it seems to have been “disabled”.

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  8. Carroll says:

    http://cgis.jpost.com/Blogs/sneh/entry/
    annapolis_a_true_zionist_victory
    The Weekly Portion: Deputy Defense Minister Dr. MK Ephraim Sneh comments on the headlines of the past week.
    “Last week marked the 60th anniversary of the UN partition plan which sought to establish two nations in the land of Israel. I would like to mention my father, Moshe Sneh, zihrono li’vraha (May his memory be blessed) who in 1947 stood at the head of the political delegation in Europe which lead to the decision. This ruling gave 56% of the land to Israel and 44% to the Palestinians.
    When we complete the permanent agreement, we will hold 78% of the land while the Palestinians will control 22%.
    After sixty years, seven wars and two intifadas, the upcoming agreement will be a true Zionist victory”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Why do they hate us? Because we applaud, fund and support this parasitic nazi cloned filth. Lay down with dogs get up with fleas America, and a severe enough flea infestation can poison your blood and kill you.

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  9. PissedOffAmerican says:

    The interesting thing about Steve’s admonishment is that he acts as though we are to believe that the Dem candidates are totally in the dark about the neocon agenda and thier rise to power. They aren’t ignorant of the facts, they are just silent about the facts.
    Hell, they don’t need to read this book. Fact is, their inaction, and complicity in the neo-con agenda, helped write it.

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  10. Carroll says:

    Yea, the Dems should pay attention to this book.
    Will they trash it like they did Carter and W&M.
    Will uber Dem Jew Engle call Heilbrunn a self hating Jew the way he called W&M anti semites?
    Will Pelosi say he doesn’t represent the Dems the same way she said Carter didn’t represent the Dems.
    But the dems won’t pay attention to this book any more than they catch onto how many in the public are sick of this Israel fetish and all other foreign influenced policies in congress and have made it an issue in their own personal voting on candidates.
    I have seen politicans and policy people questioned about the US-Isr scheme too many times to count on c-span interviews and coverage of meetings and political townhall events..every time the politican literally freezes like a deer in headlights and it is like some kind of preconditioned brainwashing button is pushed and they go into a unblinking zombie mode repeating the drivel that Israel is a democracy, ad nausum.
    It’s like the living dead speaking. I expect it to continue until the last piece of America is flushed down the toilet.

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  11. Carroll says:

    I saw this semi review of Heilbrunn’s book last month at Phil Weiss’s site. Weiss is an intermarried Jew and against the Jewish neocons, but still a member of the tribe very much approvingly carried away with Jewish power, wealth, etc. So his takes are always interesting, if somewhat contridictory to his personal views of the Jews as a light unto the nation.
    “In a month, Jacob Heilbrunn’s book on the neoconservatives, They Knew They Were Right, will be published by Doubleday. I’m reviewing it for the American Conservative, and Doubleday gave me permission to quote the following.
    One of Heilbrunn’s scores is a letter he found in the New York Times in 1969, attacking the Nixon Administration for putting pressure on Israel to withdraw from the occupied territories. The letter was a highly-informed but extremist rant against the State Department going back to John Foster Dulles, and blaming the State Department’s tilt toward the Arabs in the Suez crisis in ’56 for creating the conditions of the ’67 War.
    It is appalling the State Department can be so blind to historical precedent as to call for a withdrawal from the captured area. [i.e., not “occupied”] There is no evidence to indicate that Nasser’s “pledge on peace” will prove any more sincere in 1969 than in 1956…. [Secy of State Wm.] Rogers’s proposal is paving the way for another disastrous war between the Arab states and Israel in the near future…
    The writer was 15-year-old Douglas Feith, now a neocon and architect of the Iraq disaster. In an interview with Heilbrunn, the neocon mastermind dismissed the letter as “juvenilia.” But Heilbrunn sees it as sincere, and says that Feith’s “views were already set in stone as a youth.”
    Move on from Feith to Times columnist Thomas Friedman, who is a year or so older. In high school, Friedman writes in From Beirut to Jerusalem, he became a devotee of the Jewish Agency in Israel– and spent all three summers in high school on a kibbutz in Israel.
    For my independent study project in my senior year… in 1971, I did a slide show on how Israel won the Six-Day War. For my high school psychology class, my friend Ken Greer and I did a slide show on kibbutz life, which ended with a stirring rendition of “Jerusalem of Gold” and a rapid-fire montage of strong-eyed, idealistic-looking Israelis of all ages. In fact, high school for me, I am now embarrassed to say, was one big celebration of Israel’s victory in the Six-Day War….
    It would be hard to think of two men who played a more significant role in pushing the Iraq war than Feith and Friedman. Both at heart romantics about Israel, they both invoked Israel’s security in justifying the disastrous invasion. Isn’t it high time that American Jews who weren’t singing Hatikvah in high school got involved in Middle East policy?
    December 12, 2007
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It will be interesting to read this book and more interesting to see the reaction to it because the
    rule of the jewish community has been that gentiles can’t comment on the Jewish/zionist element in our politics but Jews can. We gentiles were anti-semites when we pointed out the ethnic or Jewish background of the neo’s being part of their madness.
    However the majority gentile population overturned that rule starting with Carter and W&M and a lot of us foreign policy watchers on the public net.
    Being a realist or a bigot, take your pick, I think everything we have seen in our government the past few decades makes the case that America should have an American-only president. I want a president ( and politicans) with no holocaust cause, no loyalty ties to a foreign country, no emotions fom being a minority or attitude from being a majority, no axe to grind, no God or religious vision to promote, nothing to f*** up his thinking….who will think like our idea of the ideal American and be absolutely fair and objective straight down the line about everything.
    When I look at all the later century “exile” communities in this country, from the Cubans who want us to overthrow Castro to the Jews who want us to fight wars for Israel to the recent Mexican illegals who want us to set aside our own laws…well, their politics in our democracy is the politics of corruption to get what they want so there is nothing in any of these people or groups to recommend them as any kind of democratic practioners or people capable of governing anything. The US is nothing now but a hotel hosting a international sales convention. It’s not operating like a soverign country in it’s own interest mainly because our politicans have Orwell-ed diversity and democracy into meaning it’s O.K., even desirable, to vote your race, your ethnics, your religion, your personal nightmares, your original homeland, your sexuality,..as long as your vote for them.
    That is why every pandering election is about everything but this…they will give Americans anything they want that taxpayer money can buy… but an American country.

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  12. DonS says:

    As Carroll sayd “But the point is we don’t have any national policy on what the “US” role is, it changes from Prez to Prez and appointee to appointee and then is screwed with by every idealogue in congress.”
    Yes, while there may appear to be a policy — from administration to administration — as well as some greater continuity somewhere in the bowels of the state department, old ME hands, etc. — the more recognizable pattern is the reluctance, almost prohibition, of addressing problem Israel presents in the equation.
    And so,while politicians may dance around the edges of discussion of the ME, even mouth platitudes about the need for Israel to be open — even here the explosive results of the exact phrasing and cadence of any words directed towards Israel indicates the circumscribed nature of the discussion. E.g., Howard Dean using the phrase “even-handed” in describing the desired direction for U.S. involvement; this brought down a storm of criticism, not from overt Zionists, but from fellow Democratic candidates.
    [Criticism of] Israel’s influence, of which there is almost a bottomless well of legitimate material, is indeed the third rail of U.S. politics. Some of the underlying factors are exposed here on a regular basis. Nothing seems to touch the external public debate.
    There is an inbredness to the mess that begs the question. The identification of politicians — nicely coopted over time — seems to trump the possibility of change. Rather than analyzing how U.S. policy needs to be vis a vis Israel, there is the dangerous assumption of common values ergo common policy.
    It is a useful cliche in psychological counseling to “make the covert overt”. That, of course, is not the way of diplomay and foreign policy for the most part. In this case there appears little inclination to make the covert overt; there actually seems no meaningful recognition that the security needs of the U.S. may actually be different from the CW. So the latent charge of “anti-semitism” is not even needed to be brought out as the cudgel very often, even implicitly.
    Virtually all politicians of take the simplistic, ignorant, stupid, lazy, cowardly and dangerous route to U.S. security interests. Psychologically, not looking after your own interests for fear of hurting someone’s feelings, defines a weak and self-defeating individual. This is much worse.

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  13. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “I have always read that it is Dennis Hassert that had the Turkey ties.”
    Whoever the individual players are, its painfully obvious that the rest of our so-called “representatives” are not inclined to rock the boat. Which, of course, makes them ALL complicit. INCLUDING the posturing cadre of garbage that is currently being offered as viable Presidential material.

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  14. liz says:

    I have always read that it is Dennis Hassert that had the Turkey ties.

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  15. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Lest we overlook the extent of the treason, and the absolute failure of our own government to act in our best interests……
    Consider too, the complete futility of attempting to discuss the neo-con agenda without considering Israel’s role in transporting us to our current sad state…
    http://tinyurl.com/2fnzzn
    The AIPAC Spy Trial: A Case of Prosecutus Interruptus
    Sunday, January 6th, 2008 in News by Justin Raimondo| Comment |
    I’ve been covering the AIPAC spy case since CBS broke the story of US secrets stolen by top officials of Israel’s number one Washington lobbyist, way back in late summer of 2004. Pentagon analyst Larry Franklin, AIPAC honcho Steven Rosen, and the Lobby’s number one Iran specialist, Keith Weissman, were indicted on August 4, 2005. Franklin pleaded guilty, and, in a deal with the government, promised to testify at the trial of his co-conspirators, Rosen and Weissman, in exchange for leniency: depending on his performance at the upcoming trial, he may get his 12-year sentence reduced considerably.
    That is, if the trial ever takes place. I’ve been on this case since day one, but even I’ve lost count of how many times the trial has been delayed, for one made-up-sounding reason or another. Rosen and Weissman are certainly getting the best defense lawyers: their legal costs, already running into the millions before the trial has even begun, must have set some kind of record. Rosen and Weissman are the Lobby’s Sacco and Vanzetti, and they are certainly getting excellent legal representation. As the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reports:
    “An April 29 trial date was set in the classified information case against two former AIPAC staffers. Judge T.S. Ellis III of the U.S. District Court in Alexandria, Va., told prosecutors and defense lawyers that the date he set Thursday was final, sources said. Ellis’ office confirmed the date, at least the fifth such date since Steve Rosen, the American Israel Public Affairs Committee’s foreign policy chief, and Keith Weissman, its Iran analyst, were indicted in August 2005.”
    I see I’m not the only one to have lost count of the postponements. The defense deftly delayed on every imaginable ground, and was indulged by a noticeably sympathetic judge, who forced the government to produce top secret information — the very information Israel’s AIPAC spy nest had gleaned from sympathizers inside our government. Furthermore, he has granted the defense demand to subpoena top government officials, including Condoleezza Rice. In addition to this new — and supposedly “final” — trial date, the JTA reports an interesting development:
    “Separately, the prosecution announced three expert witnesses it would call to show that the classified information allegedly handled by Rosen and Weissman damaged the national interest: Maj. Gen. Paul Dettmer, the Pentagon’s assistant deputy chief of staff for intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance; William McNair, a CIA official; and Dale Watson, the FBI’s former executive assistant director for counterterrorism and counterintelligence, who headed the agency’s investigation into the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks.”
    “The defense has not announced its experts.”
    It will no doubt be difficult to find anyone in the military or intelligence communities who would tesitfy that the treason of Franklin, Weissman, and Rosen served the national interest, rather than damaged it, but there’s a whole platoon of neoconservative writers and publicists who have been rallying to the defense, and claiming that the prosecution is motivated by “anti-Semites” within the Justice Department, including Joel Mowbray, Commentary editor Gabriel Schoenfeld, and the inimitably laconic Charles Johnson, who disdained the whole matter as a mere “kerfluffle.” Let them take the stand, raise their right hands, and swear that it’s good for America that the Israelis are stealing our secrets with one hand, even as they take in billions per year from the US Treasury with the other.
    What’s so important about the AIPAC spy case? After all, nations spy on each other all the time, so what’s the big deal with this particular incident?
    The story of two top AIPAC employees who acted as couriers, funneling US intelligence gleaned from Franklin to their Israeli handlers, dramatizes the thesis of professors John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen Walt, in The Israel Lobby and US Foreign Policy, their monumental study of how groups like AIPAC distort the policy-making process. Franklin, in his guilty plea, admitted to the crime, but maintained his ideological innocence to the end, claiming that he had only wanted to help Israel and thought its concerns were not being sufficiently heeded by US government officials.
    The Lobby, in spite of its zeal on behalf of Israel, has always maintained that Israeli and American interests are perfectly congruent. The exposure of key figures in their top leadership as spies for Israel is a case of zeal gone too far — and a perfect refutation of the perfect congruence argument.

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  16. Carroll says:

    Posted by PissedOffAmerican at January 6, 2008 09:53 AM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Right. Exactly.

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  17. PissedOffAmerican says:

    The suprising part of Steve’s occassional commentary about the neo-con agenda is his ommission of key elements that MUST be considered when discussing the neo-con driven events of the last decade. I have never seen Steve comment on Sibel Edmonds, her statements, her assertions, or her classified testimony before Congress. Sibel Edmonds blows the lid off any illusions we may want to entertain about our government working in our best interests. She describes high crimes and treason being committed in the highest levels of our government, yet we see NOTHING being done to address her allegations except an occassional indignant mewl being offered by the coward Waxman, who obviously has been bought or blackmailed into inaction……….
    http://tinyurl.com/2s2key
    For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets
    A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets.
    Sibel Edmonds, a 37-year-old former Turkish language translator for the FBI, listened into hundreds of sensitive intercepted conversations while based at the agency’s Washington field office.
    She approached The Sunday Times last month after reading about an Al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.
    Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.
    Among the hours of covert tape recordings, she says she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.
    The name of the official – who has held a series of top government posts – is known to The Sunday Times. He strongly denies the claims.
    However, Edmonds said: “He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.”
    She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.
    “If you made public all the information that the FBI have on this case, you will see very high-level people going through criminal trials,” she said.
    Her story shows just how much the West was infiltrated by foreign states seeking nuclear secrets. It illustrates how western government officials turned a blind eye to, or were even helping, countries such as Pakistan acquire bomb technology.
    The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain’s Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations.
    Edmonds, a fluent speaker of Turkish and Farsi, was recruited by the FBI in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. Her previous claims about incompetence inside the FBI have been well documented in America.
    She has given evidence to closed sessions of Congress and the 9/11 commission, but many of the key points of her testimony have remained secret. She has now decided to divulge some of that information after becoming disillusioned with the US authorities’ failure to act.
    One of Edmonds’s main roles in the FBI was to translate thousands of hours of conversations by Turkish diplomatic and political targets that had been covertly recorded by the agency.
    A backlog of tapes had built up, dating back to 1997, which were needed for an FBI investigation into links between the Turks and Pakistani, Israeli and US targets. Before she left the FBI in 2002 she heard evidence that pointed to money laundering, drug imports and attempts to acquire nuclear and conventional weapons technology.
    “What I found was damning,” she said. “While the FBI was investigating, several arms of the government were shielding what was going on.”
    The Turks and Israelis had planted “moles” in military and academic institutions which handled nuclear technology. Edmonds says there were several transactions of nuclear material every month, with the Pakistanis being among the eventual buyers. “The network appeared to be obtaining information from every nuclear agency in the United States,” she said.
    They were helped, she says, by the high-ranking State Department official who provided some of their moles – mainly PhD students – with security clearance to work in sensitive nuclear research facilities. These included the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico, which is responsible for the security of the US nuclear deterrent.
    In one conversation Edmonds heard the official arranging to pick up a $15,000 cash bribe. The package was to be dropped off at an agreed location by someone in the Turkish diplomatic community who was working for the network.
    The Turks, she says, often acted as a conduit for the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s spy agency, because they were less likely to attract suspicion. Venues such as the American Turkish Council in Washington were used to drop off the cash, which was picked up by the official.
    Edmonds said: “I heard at least three transactions like this over a period of 2½ years. There are almost certainly more.”
    The Pakistani operation was led by General Mahmoud Ahmad, then the ISI chief.
    Intercepted communications showed Ahmad and his colleagues stationed in Washington were in constant contact with attachés in the Turkish embassy.
    Intelligence analysts say that members of the ISI were close to Al-Qaeda before and after 9/11. Indeed, Ahmad was accused of sanctioning a $100,000 wire payment to Mohammed Atta, one of the 9/11 hijackers, immediately before the attacks.
    The results of the espionage were almost certainly passed to Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani nuclear scientist.
    Khan was close to Ahmad and the ISI. While running Pakistan’s nuclear programme, he became a millionaire by selling atomic secrets to Libya, Iran and North Korea. He also used a network of companies in America and Britain to obtain components for a nuclear programme.
    Khan caused an alert among western intelligence agencies when his aides met Osama Bin Laden. “We were aware of contact between A Q Khan’s people and Al-Qaeda,” a former CIA officer said last week. “There was absolute panic when we initially discovered this, but it kind of panned out in the end.”
    It is likely that the nuclear secrets stolen from the United States would have been sold to a number of rogue states by Khan.
    Edmonds was later to see the scope of the Pakistani connections when it was revealed that one of her fellow translators at the FBI was the daughter of a Pakistani embassy official who worked for Ahmad. The translator was given top secret clearance despite protests from FBI investigators.
    Edmonds says packages containing nuclear secrets were delivered by Turkish operatives, using their cover as members of the diplomatic and military community, to contacts at the Pakistani embassy in Washington.
    Following 9/11, a number of the foreign operatives were taken in for questioning by the FBI on suspicion that they knew about or somehow aided the attacks.
    Edmonds said the State Department official once again proved useful. “A primary target would call the official and point to names on the list and say, ‘We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans’,” she said. “The official said that he would ‘take care of it’.”
    The four suspects on the list were released from interrogation and extradited.
    Edmonds also claims that a number of senior officials in the Pentagon had helped Israeli and Turkish agents.
    “The people provided lists of potential moles from Pentagon-related institutions who had access to databases concerning this information,” she said.
    “The handlers, who were part of the diplomatic community, would then try to recruit those people to become moles for the network. The lists contained all their ‘hooking points’, which could be financial or sexual pressure points, their exact job in the Pentagon and what stuff they had access to.”
    One of the Pentagon figures under investigation was Lawrence Franklin, a former Pentagon analyst, who was jailed in 2006 for passing US defence information to lobbyists and sharing classified information with an Israeli diplomat.
    “He was one of the top people providing information and packages during 2000 and 2001,” she said.
    Once acquired, the nuclear secrets could have gone anywhere. The FBI monitored Turkish diplomats who were selling copies of the information to the highest bidder.
    Edmonds said: “Certain greedy Turkish operators would make copies of the material and look around for buyers. They had agents who would find potential buyers.”
    In summer 2000, Edmonds says the FBI monitored one of the agents as he met two Saudi Arabian businessmen in Detroit to sell nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama. She overheard the agent saying: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000.”
    Edmonds’s employment with the FBI lasted for just six months. In March 2002 she was dismissed after accusing a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals.
    She has always claimed that she was victimised for being outspoken and was vindicated by an Office of the Inspector General review of her case three years later. It found that one of the contributory reasons for her sacking was that she had made valid complaints.
    The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI’s methods and current investigations.
    Her allegations were heard in a closed session of Congress, but no action has been taken and she continues to campaign for a public hearing.
    She was able to discuss the case with The Sunday Times because, by the end of January 2002, the justice department had shut down the programme.
    The senior official in the State Department no longer works there. Last week he denied all of Edmonds’s allegations: “If you are calling me to say somebody said that I took money, that’s outrageous . . . I do not have anything to say about such stupid ridiculous things as this.”
    In researching this article, The Sunday Times has talked to two FBI officers (one serving, one former) and two former CIA sources who worked on nuclear proliferation. While none was aware of specific allegations against officials she names, they did provide overlapping corroboration of Edmonds’s story.
    One of the CIA sources confirmed that the Turks had acquired nuclear secrets from the United States and shared the information with Pakistan and Israel. “We have no indication that Turkey has its own nuclear ambitions. But the Turks are traders. To my knowledge they became big players in the late 1990s,” the source said.
    How Pakistan got the bomb, then sold it to the highest bidders
    1965 Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Pakistan’s foreign minister, says: “If India builds the bomb we will eat grass . . . but we will get one of our own”
    1974 Nuclear programme becomes increased priority as India tests a nuclear device
    1976 Abdul Qadeer Khan, a scientist, steals secrets from Dutch uranium plant. Made head of his nation’s nuclear programme by Bhutto, now prime minister
    1976 onwards Clandestine network established to obtain materials and technology for uranium enrichment from the West
    1985 Pakistan produces weapons-grade uranium for the first time
    1989-91 Khan’s network sells Iran nuclear weapons information and technology
    1991-97 Khan sells weapons technology to North Korea and Libya
    1998 India tests nuclear bomb and Pakistan follows with a series of nuclear tests. Khan says: “I never had any doubts I was building a bomb. We had to do it”
    2001 CIA chief George Tenet gathers officials for crisis summit on the proliferation of nuclear technology from Pakistan to other countries
    2001 Weeks before 9/11, Khan’s aides meet Osama Bin Laden to discuss an Al-Qaeda nuclear device
    2001 After 9/11 proliferation crisis becomes secondary as Pakistan is seen as important ally in war on terror
    2003 Libya abandons nuclear weapons programme and admits acquiring components through Pakistani nuclear scientists
    2004 Khan placed under house arrest and confesses to supplying Iran, Libya and North Korea with weapons technology. He is pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf
    2006 North Korea tests a nuclear bomb
    2007 Renewed fears that bomb may fall into hands of Islamic extremists as killing of Benazir Bhutto throws country into turmoil

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  18. PissedOffAmerican says:

    I must add that I believe in the original design for the U.N.. But if the U.N. is only used as a support body for United States policy, and demonized when it refuses to play its role, than what reason is there to maintain the charade? The constant use of U.N. Resolutions to justify the Actions of the United States and Israel in the Middle East, while ignoring Israel’s own disregard for resolutions that target Israel’s actions, make the U.N. nothing more than a farce, a puppet organization serving the agenda of Israel and the United States. As such, it is easy to defend Ron Paul’s disdain for the U.N.’s very existence. In a perfect world, the U.N. would be a grand idea, but American greed and power lust has turned it into just one more tainted and corrupt cesspool of good intentions gone bad.

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  19. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Carroll, you just outlined the reason that such a huge effort is being made to silence Ron Paul. He is called “isolationist”. Yet when reading his speeches and statements, it appears that he sees the world community as a system of neighbors whose needs and interactions cannot be successfully dictated by a superpower mediator with nefarious motives.
    Of course, he’s right.

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  20. Carroll says:

    I have been reading thru the National Interest site (the link is in SC’s post)..very interesting.
    There are several articles on the lack of debate about JUST WHAT AMERICA’S INTEREST ARE.
    Several months ago the posters here got into this question on this site and if we are representive of the public it’s a subject we want debated.
    Some of the candidates are alluding to it in a way… a very non specific way like Obama’s “visions” but then their follow thur is still the US as the great decider spreading democracy with either war or money. The only one really specific is Paul with his hands off the world position.
    It’s never mentioned or debated exactly what our politicans job is or where it ends in terms of meddling with other countries.
    We have everyone and their brother in congress now tripping to the ME to intefer or broker with Syria and Israel or Lebanon and Syria and so forth. Some contridict the State Dep. or the WH policy for better or worse. But the point is we don’t have any national policy on what the “US” role is, it changes from Prez to Prez and appointee to appointee and then is screwed with by every idealogue in congress.
    I think our founders were quite clear about the US role and one of the NI articles said it well…that the US should be the power of “last resort” for world. Going into other country’s situtations only when all else has failed and the chaos is an imminent threat to the world, not acting as a premptive meddler arond the world.

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  21. easy e says:

    Correction on above link reference to Mark Penn from the Washington Post:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/04/29/AR2007042901661_pf.html

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  22. easy e says:

    Off topic, but not really. The arrogance and Neocon-lite history of Hillary’s Chief Strategist, Mark Penn, may be starting to haunt her.
    “…In their $5 million Georgetown mansion, Penn and his wife, Nancy Jacobson, a former staff member for Sen. Evan Bayh (D-Ind.) who is now a fundraiser with the Clinton campaign, run something of a salon for like-minded friends. They recently threw a book party for Jeffrey Goldberg, the New Yorker writer, to celebrate the release of his memoir on Israel. On another occasion, they hosted David Brooks, the conservative New York Times columnist, for a dinner party and political discussion.
    Penn has deep roots in the national security wing of the Democratic Party, along with other centrist Democrats — some of them Jewish and pro-Israel, like Penn — who saw the merits of invading Iraq before the war began.
    “Penn has always believed that strength is critical for running the country, and that people want to have a president who’s going to be willing to defend the country — that’s the number one criteria,” said Al From, the chief executive of the Democratic Leadership Council, who considers Penn a friend.
    Penn gained his foreign policy expertise working on numerous campaigns overseas, especially in Israel. In 1981, he and business partner Doug Schoen helped reelect Menachem Begin, one of the most right-wing prime ministers in the country’s history, and emerged with a new outlook on the Middle East. “We got a chance to experience firsthand the perils and possibilities that the state of Israel presents,” Schoen said in an interview.
    In a pivotal moment, the pollsters watched as Begin launched airstrikes against a developing Iraqi nuclear facility, Osirak, in the middle of the campaign. “In the end, bombing the Osirak reactor became a metaphor for the type of man that Begin was and the steps he was willing to take to safeguard Israel’s security,” Schoen wrote in his autobiography, “The Power of the Vote.”
    Ever since, Penn has been a prominent advocate of conveying strength in foreign policy. As recently as the 2004 presidential contest, Penn argued that Democrats would lose if they failed to close the “security gap.” His client list includes prominent backers of the Iraq war, particularly Lieberman, whose presidential campaign Penn helped run in 2004, and British Prime Minister Tony Blair, whose campaign he advised when Blair won a historic third term in 2005…”
    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/002670.php

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  23. liz says:

    The way I see it, Democrats are not the only pols that need to read the book. I think some Republicans are totally bamboozled. And I think Neoconservativism crosses party lines….

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  24. TonyForesta says:

    If the book fails to refer to, detail, and analyze the very obvious fascist ideologies and practices of the socalled neocons – it is nothing more than a work of disinformation affording these fascists and their malignant machinations grossly underserved credibility. While the fascists (neocons) are remarkably successful in mangiling, dismantling, and reengineering the Constitution, and the core principles that formally defined America, – thier success has been our gleaned at our peril. America is facing a world of crisis economically, politically, militarily, socially, and morally. Until someone with the notoriety and voice that will resonate above the chari vari and inane propaganda pimped by the complicit parrots in the MSM has the courage to label the neocons as FASCISTS, – then all the chatter is meaningless and moot, and – the fascists in the Bush government will continue to entrench their death grip on America’s government, military, media, and key industrial (oil, energy, private intelligence and military, pharmaceutical, PR, and finance and banking) oligarchs to the great disservce and ultimate demise of the American people.
    And what POA said….
    “Deliver us from evil!”

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  25. DreadPirate says:

    And, …if you believe (and/or fear) that the neocons will continue to ‘rise’ — mostly as an amorphic neuronal abscess on America’s consciousness for democracy — then I ask that you consider starting a new series blog at TPM called ‘Neocon Watch’, so that we (Americans) can receive adequate warning to treat ourselves. If we’re lucky, that blog could one day lead to a cure! 🙂

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  26. DreadPirate says:

    If there’s a Part II by Heilbrunn,… I hope hat he properly frames the next title as,..”THEY WERE SMART AND STUPID – The RISE and FAILures of the NEOCONS.”
    …pressuming that our nation survives the neocons next Apocalyptic venture against our country. ;/
    But not to discredit your testimonial, I actually do look forward to reading this book; particularly as it may help me understand how and why psycho-pathological idealogues attain power.

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  27. easy e says:

    “…And one more thing…all the Dem candidates should become very, very familiar with this book.”
    Steve Clemons @ 2:43pm
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Would be nice to get Obama/Hillary/Edwards VIEWS on Neocon movement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4MdyJDnSoI and the PNAC AGENDA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sg_NRC8ozk
    Too much to ask from influential media and blogosphere powers? Hmmm……

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  28. easy e says:

    “…And one more thing…all the Dem candidates should become very, very familiar with this book.”
    Steve Clemons @ 2:43pm
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Would be nice to get Obama/Hillary/Edwards VIEWS on Neocon movement http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4MdyJDnSoI and the PNAC AGENDA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sg_NRC8ozk
    Too much to ask from influential media and blogosphere powers? Hmmm……

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  29. easy e says:

    “…If she could be pried away from AIPAC…”
    -Carroll @ 5:55pm
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    She wouldn’t be a contender either. Nor would Obama and Edwards. No subserviance to AIPAC, no chance to be USA President. Just ask _____. Never mind.

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  30. Carroll says:

    And this is off topic but I am listening to Hillary in NH and I must say Steve is right about saying her grasp of the details of ‘everything” is very impressive.
    I still don’t agree with her quirks in foreign policy and think she hedges on her reasons for supporting her Iraq vote and her Iran resolutions votes.
    But when Hillary is being herself and answering unstaged questions from the public it is clear she knows the complexities of every single problem.
    If she could be pried away from AIPAC she would be up there for me.

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  31. Carroll says:

    Is this a NIE on the neos?
    If it’s not it should be.
    And this sounds terrier like but what’s the problem with the FBI or CIA suiciding these freaks…happens all the time to other individuals who are threats to our interest.
    Just get rid of them.

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  32. Ian Kaplan says:

    I agree with POA that the liberal media is missing in action. While I can put up with Brooks and his like at the Times, I cannot put with with William Kristol. Kristol is not a conservative voice but the voice of a warmongering Chicken Hawk. There is nothing that this man has to say that is fit to print. Kristol is simply an intellectual bankrupt. It is disgusting that the New York Times is placing what prestige they have left at Kristol’s service. This is the man who wrote that the New York Times and James Risen should be prosecuted for writing about the NSA wiretapping. I cannot understand how the New York Times can turn around and give this neocon shill a weekly editoral slot.
    I have subscribed to the New York Times for years, putting up with their terrible delivery service. When it was announced that Kristol would be writing a weekly column, I canceled my subscription. I hope that other subscribers will consider taking this action as well.

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  33. Ian Kaplan says:

    I agree with POA that the liberal media is missing in action. While I can put up with Brooks and his like at the Times, I cannot put with with William Kristol. Kristol is not a conservative voice but the voice of a warmongering Chicken Hawk. There is nothing that this man has to say that is fit to print. Kristol is simply an intellectual bankrupt. It is disgusting that the New York Times is placing what prestige they have left at Kristol’s service. This is the man who wrote that the New York Times and James Risen should be prosecuted for writing about the NSA wiretapping. I cannot understand how the New York Times can turn around and give this neocon shill a weekly editoral slot.
    I have subscribed to the New York Times for years, putting up with their terrible delivery service. When it was announced that Kristol would be writing a weekly column, I canceled my subscription. I hope that other subscribers will consider taking this action as well.

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  34. PissedOffAmerican says:

    http://tinyurl.com/22epox
    FOXNews.com yanks Iran story, replaces with Petraeus denial
    Yesterday morning 1/3/08 FOXNews.com ran a story that referred and linked back to a Washington Times piece that said Iran is no longer supplying weapons or training to insurgents in Iraq and had in fact curtailed the practice in October 2006 – three months before the “surge.” Last night the story changed to one where General Petraeus denied the Washington Times story. FOX did not issue a retraction or correction, they simply disappeared the earlier story and replaced it with General Petraeus’ denial.
    The hyperlink http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,319969,00.html, originally went to the story headlined “Report: Iran is Not aiding Iraq Militants.”

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  35. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Although I find Kristol’s new job at the NYTs a bit of a sinister development, I don’t consider it anymore of a pandering and advancement of the neo-con movement than we have previously seen from this failed member of the Fourth Estate.
    Who can forget Novak and Miller’s role in bugling forth with the propaganda leading up to the illegal, ill conceived, and ill fated invasion of Iraq?
    Nor can we realistically consider Kristol’s new job as being novel to the media pandering to the far right and the neo-con movement. Anyone that has paid attention to the blathering nonsense emanating from the mouths of Limbaugh, Coulter, O’Reilly, Hannity, Levin, Ingram, Beck, etc, cannot fail to note their subservience to the neocon agenda.
    And in regards to the print media, the Los Angeles Times hiring of Boot, and firing of Scheer, was particularly telling about this myth of a “liberal media”.
    This media hard line harping and restructuring we have seen these last seven years is not by accident, and it is no small wonder that a huge percentage of Americans still believe Saddam was invlolved in 9/11, that there is evidence of an ongoing Iranian nuclear weapons program, and that 19 unsophisticated and amateur “evil doers” brought down the three World Trade Center buildings.
    As I have commented here on numerous occassions, much to the delight of those beseeching Steve to rid this blog of my banter, we have seen but the tip of the iceberg as far as where the so called “neocons” are taking their agenda. The death toll is going to soar, and we will be counting the bodies, very possibly, in the billions.
    And, there are no White Knights on the horizon, seeking to end the insanity. We can expect no different from Hillary or Obama, as evidenced by a cursery examination of the substantial support AIPAC has thrown to the two of them, as well as the arms industry’s drooling desire for a Hillary Presidency.
    On the other side, we have already seen this piece of shit Romney actively use LIES in his campaign rhetoric, such as the bullshit he fed us during the first debates about why the UN inspection teams left Iraq just prior to the invasion.
    And you wanna REALLY see the blood flow? Take this religious wackjob fanatic Huckabee and turn him loose with our four military branches of “Christian Crusaders”. Do we really want some fanatic that believes the Earth is six thousand years old and views the bible as a factual and accurate history book having his fingers on the nuclear trigger?
    Kristol’s new job is just one more leggo on a growing sculpture, that should come on no suprise to anyone considering the events of the last seven years.
    The next logical step, designed to advance the neo-con agenda, is the inevitable false flag terrorist attack that we will soon be the victims off. And it will be a doozy, designed to reverse the growing awareness within the citizenry that we have been horribly and criminally decieved by our own government for some time now, certainly not just by this current Administration.
    Hold on to your hats, people. It is going to get uglier than your worst nightmare.

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