Matt Cooper Taking Wagers on Clinton’s Political Future Ending Permanently

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matt cooper al franken.jpg
(That’s Matt Cooper on the left next to the great Al Franken)
I’m into “Facebook Journalism.” I think it’s really cool — though one of my friends who is a genuine, old school journalist (and out of a job) pretty much handed me my head when I called John Dickerson’s twitter reporting on Bill O’Reilly shoving an Obama staffer in New Hampshire “new journalism.” He was miffed.
Now Matt Cooper of Conde Nast’s Portfolio is reporting this on his Facebook twitter box:

Willing to bet this is the last Clinton election ever. No senate or presidential bid in ’12.

That’s interesting. I have been one to think that the Clinton franchise would hold together — even if she steps out of the race or was ultimately defeated by Obama. But an alternative view is that the Clinton political machine could completely collapse when her forward momentum to the White House is definitively stopped.
Matt’s bet that the Clintons, all of them, would head into a next ‘electionless’ life is not unbelievable.
Interesting stuff this Facebook journalism.
Here’s my page. My twitter box currently says that I am “impressed by what Dianne Feinstein knows about nukes” after an interesting dinner I attended with her last night.
— Steve Clemons

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27 comments on “Matt Cooper Taking Wagers on Clinton’s Political Future Ending Permanently

  1. jchamb says:

    Cooper’s living on my block in a big condo building. I see him every now and then.
    I wish him all the best. He’s a great reporter (his blog’s pretty cool, too) and I’ve heard he’s a real stand-up fella. On the other hand, folks I know in the Clinton camp say his wife’s God-awful. Hope he keeps his head up and gets through it all ok.

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  2. David says:

    Love the picture of Al Franken, and really looking forward to being able to refer to him as Senator Franken. The man will add both wit and social/political acumen to that body. He might even, on occasion, channel a bit of Ben Franklin and a bit of Sam Clemens, maybe something of an amalgem. I miss his show that used to be on Sundance. It was a not-to-be-missed.

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  3. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “thereisnoinfoflow”……….
    Are you tittillated by posting people’s personal affairs here?
    In my circles, we’d be calling you “OneSickPuppy”.

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  4. thereisnoinfoflow says:

    steve,
    matt and mandy have been on and off again divorcing each other for well over a year. one day it’s on the next day it’s and then it’s on again.
    you do not hold a monopoly on the truth.

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  5. Joe Klein's conscience says:

    Robert Morrow:
    Talk about the biggest waste of campaign funds since Mr. 9/11!! Maybe it will make him persona non grata in Democratic circles from now on(like Robert Shrumm, hopefully). If that indeed happens, it will be a small price to pay.

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  6. Robert Morrow says:

    Matt Cooper, along with Mandy, has certainly been around the Clintons enough to know what a pair of jokers they are. Sorry to see anyone have marital problems, but I bet the woes of Hillary’s failing campaign have reverberated throughout her staff’s and consultants personal lives.
    That’s the problem with the Clintons, all they care about is politics and themselves, to hell with treating people right and living a “normal” life. If Mandy has been having all those profane screaming matches for months inside the Clinton campaign -probably with Mark Penn et alia, it is hard to see how that does not affect family life.
    I think and hope that Hillary and Bill have permanently discredited themselves with this latest campaign. In sum, I hope Matt’s right and this is the end of the road in politics for Hillary and Bill.
    By the way, what do you think the chances are that Mark Penn will get PAID all the consulting fees that he is owed by Hillary? Can you trust her?

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  7. Steve Clemons says:

    behonest — see my note above. I did acknowledge that in my first post — but removed the item which originally said:
    Matt’s bet that the Clintons, all of them, would head into a next ‘electionless’ life is not unbelievable. But wow — what a brave thing for the husband of Mandy Grunwald to put on his facebook page. I’m in awe of the buffers and stabilizers they must have in their marriage.
    I removed this because I learned that Cooper and Grunwald are separated from and divorcing each other — and I wanted to respect that. So, next time — inquire a bit more before you post something like that all in caps…you are behind the info flow.
    best,
    Steve Clemons

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  8. behonest says:

    STEVE,
    YOU NEED TO DISCLOSE THAT MATT COOPER IS THE HUSBAND OF SENIOR CLINTON ADVISOR MANDY GRUNWALD.

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  9. Steve Clemons says:

    Brendan Mackie — Come back to Facebook! We can raise the level of significance of the platform. Best, Steve

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  10. leo says:

    Maybe, as the Party stands more firmly behind Obama, the Clintons’ combined gigantic egos are likewise now threatening to walk away from the Party — permanently.
    Thus no “political future” for Bill and Hillary.
    Maybe they’d like to be FOX political show hosts?

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  11. Tahoe Editor says:

    That’s hilarious.

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  12. David says:

    Obama has never either been out for himself, not Americans in general, nor has he evinced the kind of arrogance some here seen to suggest. He is simply very, very smart, more committed to his fellow human beings than his own personal wealth, and is married to a woman who will never let him get too big for his britches.
    Hillary will come in from the cold. Bill will take longer. And the Democrats will unify and help lead America to a better future, one in which the old guard is trimmed back and younger people, who get it regarding the future of human kind, will become more politically engaged, moreso in the party of FDR than the party of RWR, and Jimmy Carter will be vindicated. Obama will tell me a lot about who he will be as president by how his attitude toward Jimmy Carter evolves.
    John McCain is a rather depressing reminder of our misguided past, a retro militarist, and a person with a temperament unfit for a president (actually, rather like W). Barack Obama inspires, is pretty sound on the issues – as sound a person hoping to be president of the United States can be – and will acquit himself well in the general election. Yes, Hillary was the best prepared to be president, but she went off a cliff when Obama started winning primaries, so her qualifications came to naught. And Obama’s speech against the invasion of Iraq – when he was in a 7-way battle for the Democratic nomination for the senate seat – reflects the courage and wisdom we desperately need in our next president. Sadly, Hillary came up short on wisdom. I do, however, want her on the Supreme Court.

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  13. Tahoe Editor says:

    velvet, you have to let go of these questions and just get in line now. Barack has turned the electoral map upside down by flooding the caucuses with MoveOn folks and their children. In a matter of months we’ll be living in a different world, remade in his image care of his unquestionable & superior judgment. He’s going to organize the entire global community. He has nothing to worry about, as he’s already told us: “I’m confident I can get her votes, but I don’t know that she could get mine.”
    Just look at the audaciousness of the GOP, claiming they can ask questions about Obama. It’s ridiculous. Who do they think they are?
    http://www.canweask.com
    http://www.esquire.com/features/barack-obama-0608

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  14. erichwwk says:

    sorry. rest of post:
    ….
    Any clues re her thoughts on the desperation end run around the will of Congress happening at LANL, with the ploy of trying to build a 400,000 SF Nuclear Bomb factory over a seismic fault before the Cheney administration clock runs out? Is she OK with that? Does she realize California required quake connectors are not being used?
    How about her view on the wisdom of creating more nuclear waste w/o being able to clean up past waste? Did she display any concern over the 750kg of plutonium 239 unaccounted for at LANL? Any sense of where it went? Down arroyos, mislabeled WIPP shipments, terrorist black market, workers lungs? Did she reveal anything re allegation of Phd interns/moles at LANL? Exactly how she sees more/different nuclear weapons being in US interests?
    Can you share some sense of what you feel she understands about nuclear weapons? Thanks.

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  15. cynic says:

    Velvet, me, I’m an agnostic cynic, but I did find a fitting non-partisan neutrality in Atrios’ description of the “Internet Asshole Olympics”
    http://www.eschatonblog.com/2008_05_04_archive.html#2879471104243356030
    I respect your vitriol especially if its not totally partisan driven

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  16. erichwwk says:

    Paul Norheim is interested in “what DF knows about nukes” .
    Paul continues with: “I have to ask you this: are you, or are you not aware of how provoking some of your apparently most harmless sentences are to many of your readers?
    I share that interest. Sharing a sense of DF’s understanding of nukes would be most helpful.
    So what is her sense of where the 2009 Nuclear Posture review will go? What to expect in the bipartisan nuclear policy review re stockpile and implied infrastructure?

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  17. karenk says:

    Hey Steve, I added u as a friend on facebook.

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  18. velvet says:

    Isn’t this post a bit beneath your usual level? Personally I don’t think the Clintons owe this country or the Democratic party jack after what I’ve seen. Barack Obama is a Tony Blair or Reagan like cipher-
    Personally the day his nomination gets rammed through is the day I remove the D from my voter registration. There is no way in hell I’ll be a part of this when Hillary Clinton handed this student his ass on policy in 20 debates.
    Never seen anything like it, hope to never see it again.
    Who is this guy? He’s black, he’s white. He’s young, he’s old. He’s experienced, he’s fresh. He’s a kid who had to eat a free lunch, he’s a millionare. He’s rightwing, he’s leftwing. He’s above all that. He’s down in the dirt. He’s religious. But he’s a scientist. He’s an international man of mystery, or was, when he was 8. He’s a community organizer who drives a V8. He is everything. He is nothing. He is the Alpha. He is the Omega. He is the Messiah. He hangs around with ex-terrorists, colorful characters & Kennedys all in the same week. He’s in the know. He’s the man. He’s uptown, he’s downtown. Shelby Steele’s got this one exactly right, I’m afraid. He admires Reagan & GHWB fp, but is endorsed by McGovern. His bff is Oprah and he sweeps academics off their feet.
    I swear to god, barring Karl Rove strapping an accent & cowboy boots onto George W. Bush, I have never encountered another public figure more contrived than this. Particularly that last refusal to debate.
    A dangerous game at a critical time. This temptation to forcibly birth a myth at the cost of pragmatism is sincerely frightening. The worst of it is the continued mass hallucination of the media, where a 50/50 split is reported as 99/1.
    Strange, unpleasant days. Not at all what I was envisioning in the post-bush era. There’s a weird blame the govt thing I pick up a lot in his remarks that is not going to fly too well outside the rarefied realm of the lefty blogs. And I don’t think he’s far left at all- I think he’s precisely what a winger would have been in the 90s with a sprinkling of lives a political life in Chicago politics & some identity politics & a whole lotta relgion in there. But what do I know.

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  19. Roger says:

    I’m guessing that only the really hungry will tolerate stale meat.

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  20. Steve Clemons says:

    Leon — Thanks much for your note. I received word of that from a few people after I posted it. I did not know that Mandy Grunwald and Matt Cooper had separated.
    Out of respect for them, I have sliced out that bit of my comment. I’m saving it privately as it made a good post — but I don’t want to do anything that causes stress in a private personal relationship.
    Thanks much,
    Steve Clemons

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  21. Leon Hadar says:

    Steve:
    I usually don’t comment on personal issues. But according to this week’s WP, the happy couple are getting divorced.

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  22. Chris Brown says:

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/matt-stoller/obamas-consolidation-of-t_b_100783.html
    Matt Stoller has an interesting piece up at Huffington Post relating to Obamas restructuring the democratic coalition and utilization of technology to raise money and organize the troops.

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  23. MarkL says:

    Hehe..
    Have you considered the prospects for Obama’s political future after he loses to McCain in the worst shellacking since McGovern?
    Remember, he has promised (Thank god) that he won’t run for President again.
    This is the best year since 1932 for a Democrat to win. If Obama tanks in November, he is finished. Hillary’s star will rise a lot, in that case.

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  24. Brendan Mackie says:

    It’s wonderful to see your Facebook journalism there, Steve! The usual fare for Facebook statuses are either obscure song lyrics, swear words, or obscene song lyrics. Yours? Yours is like, well, it’s like having Steve Clemons on Facebook. Single-handedly you are elevating the discourse on Facebook a couple grade-levels.
    I quit Facebook a week or so ago (or went Facebook cold-turkey). It was just too creepy seeing what EVERYONE was doing. Especially the ex-girlfriends. Maybe you all could convince me to get back on again?

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  25. Don Bacon says:

    Did you get a chance to discuss war profiteering with Senator Feinstein? Her husband Richard Blum’s company Perini Corporation has received over 800 million dollars in Pentagon contracts for construction in Iraq and Afghanistan, enabling Diane and Richard to move into a fine large mansion in the flush Pacific Heights neighborhood of San Francisco. And we wonder why the 110th Congress keeps passing obscene war spending bill. Oh that’s right, to support the troops, they say.

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  26. Paul Norheim says:

    “My twitter box currently says that I am “impressed by what
    Dianne Feinstein knows about nukes” after an interesting dinner
    I attended with her last night.”
    Steve Clemons: as so often, I have no clue, and therefore I have
    to ask you this: are you, or are you not aware of how provoking
    some of your apparently most harmless sentences are to many
    of your readers?
    “Interesting dinner” (Re: last post)
    “what DF knows about nukes” (I`m speechless…)
    Are you just teasing Foresta & Co? Flirting with Dianne
    Feinstein?
    Or simply impressed by what the lady knows about NUKES?
    I just have to ask.
    PS
    Congratulation and good luck with your Facebook journalism!

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