Moose Hunting


brake for moose 2 twn.JPGNot that kind of moose hunting. The kind where you drive by and see a big moose standing in the mud, perhaps a cow moose and calves.
Or maybe a big bull moose with a big rack of horns. I’ve seen these in large numbers in Alaska — but was thrilled when I was up in Bretton Woods, New Hampshire that I might get to see a moose while up at a big economic conference organized by the Institute for New Economic Thinking.
Driving up, I saw the “Brake for Moose” sign above — and then went on a multi-day hunt, sort of like bird-watching.
I actually went on a nine-mile run on a pretty sparsely traveled road that ran up into the White Mountains along a creek, looking for the elusive moose.
I went in search of local ponds and known mud holes — but nothing.
BJ Greenspan Moose Tracker TWN.jpgAnd then INET Chief of Staff BJ Greenspan, on her way home from the meeting, just ran right into one — really ran into it, or it into her. Apparently, according to reports, the moose that collided with her car is just fine and went loping off.
Greenspan wrote to me:

Nick said you were looking for moose all weekend.
I found one. He is in better shape than my rental car.
Not a mark on me either, but I hope I never see another one.

Don’t tell me that life is fair.
— Steve Clemons


14 comments on “Moose Hunting

  1. questions says:

    Skidelsky, h/t Thoma:
    “Democracy or Finance?”
    This is worth the click through.


  2. questions says:

    This sounds so familiar to me for some reason:
    “For those on the inside, it is hard to ignore the sense that the
    economics profession is in a state of intellectual crisis.”
    “One might expect the evolution of
    thought to be slow and steady, but physicist Thomas Kuhn
    paints a more dramatic picture in his 1962 book The Structure
    of Scientific Revolutions: It is a


  3. questions says:

    This is utterly fascinating:
    “Saturday, February 07, 2009
    The City of London Corporation: the state within a state
    When people ask – as they often do these days – which is the biggest tax haven in the world, our answer is almost invariably the City of London. The City hosts Britain’s largest offshore financial centre and is intimately linked to satellite tax havens across most time zones, ranging from Hong Kong and Singapore in the East, to the British Virgin Islands, the Turks & Caicos Islands, Bermuda, the Cayman Islands and the Bahamas in the West. All of these havens are in some respects the Frankenstein creations of the City, as are the Crown Dependency islands (Guernsey, Isle of Man and Jersey) which are easily accessible in less than one hour by jet from London.”
    Shaxson discusses the Corporation of London in a fair amount of detail.
    It’s an autonomous space within London that has its own voting system (which gives more power to corporations than to individual people), its own way to greet the Queen, its own relationship to vast sums of money.
    The London/Wall St. connection is amazing.
    The fact that any regulation we do in the US is undone by the Corporation of London so that money simply moves there if they don’t like the conditions here makes our policies here make more sense…. Shaxson suggests that undoing Glass/Steagall has much to do with this ability for money to flow out of here and in to the Corporation of London.
    Global finance is really global, and one must wonder if there really is a “country” anymore.
    Political control seems to be for the little people, while freedom of motion is for big finance.
    The Wiki page is not particularly helpful, but I recommend spending some time with the Shaxson book. He has occasional sentences that could have been edited out, and I can’t quite figure out why they’re still in the book, but otherwise, it’s a fascinating account of where money goes, and it really helps with explaining why so few people at this point are going to go to prison for financial crimes.
    According to Shaxson, Blair gave up on trying to get control of the Corp. and removed it as a goal from the Labour Party.
    This is our future. The Corporation of New York, coming soon to a major metropolitan center
    They even have an official website.


  4. questions says:

    Paul Ryan, townhall meeting, video clip:
    The URL says it all.


  5. questions says:

    And my second thought of the day….
    Paul Ryan. Medicare. If you cut it, a new market will come.
    Think cars. Cars are really expensive. It’s easy to spend 25-35 thousand on a car.
    But there are many cheaper alternatives.
    You can get a small car, without power windows, without A/C, without much of anything.
    And if the stupid government would get its stupid paws off the backs of the car makers, we could get the prices down even more. Cars without seats, cars without seatbelts, cars that only start half the time…..
    As is, we can get used cars that are missing a fair number of pieces. And we do let people drive some of these. But you know something, when your car is missing the steering wheel, you generally would know that!
    This is all to the good because people sort according to desire. If you really want a car more than something else, you buy one! There’s a car for every budget, and the market works beautifully??? Because after all, what’s a few missing pieces!
    So, why doesn’t medicine do the same thing? Why, because of the evil government that ignorantly set rules rather than letting the market take care of the whole thing.
    So now I’m wondering what a used car-like market for medical supplies and care might look like?
    Needles used only once by a little old lady (who might have had hep c….)
    I’ll remove any organ! Cheap!
    This pill is only a little past date!
    One wonders what kind of market Ryan thinks would emerge with his system.
    Surgery at the local witchdoctor’s house? More people taking vitamins? What even is a libertarian medical care set up? I would guess it’s a pine box, 6 feet below ground, in a potters field.
    Note that there’s a famous paper on the problems in the used car market because of asymmetries of information regarding the condition of used cars and what that does to prices and how that keeps higher quality cars out of the market.
    It’s generally considered a classic study in market failure.


  6. questions says:

    In typical bad social science fashion, I will borrow a metaphor from physics, badly misuse it, and prove an obvious point that will then become a brilliant insight into the human condition….
    First note, there are some FOIA’d memos out from the Independent, I think it is, showing that there were BP/Blair talks regarding Iraqi oil a few months before the invasion. What’s interesting about the memos is not that they show OIL interests, because that’s not what they really show near as I can tell. Rather, what they show is that BP wanted to make a run at Total/FinaELF. No big bad multinational conglomeration of money and grease wants to allow some other big bad multinational conglomeration of money and grease to be bigger.
    Blair figured that BP was better than the French any old day, and besides, there were all sorts of pressures going into the war. So, only sort of oil, and not total oil (!)
    Physics describes strong and weak forces.
    Ideology is a weak political force in that a right or leftish leaning Republican will vote for the Republican regardless of the candidate’s leanings. Tea Party candidates get votes from ordinary Republicans, save for the absolutely craziest of the bunch where it’s not merely ideology at issue, it’s sanity.
    Party ID is a strong force, in that it trumps pretty much all other issues in politics. You vote your party.
    Money in politics is a weak force in that it flows to both candidates, in that one donor’s pulling support from one candidate to give to another doesn’t move all the money, in that incumbency and party ID are strong forces, and one’s voting record is pretty much a weak force as well. Weak forces don’t turn elections. Weak forces don’t buy Congress. Money is a weak force in elections because voters care mostly about party ID.
    But, the love of money is a strong force in other domains.
    The BP/Total fight that helped the Iraq War along its path shows one version of the love of money and status.
    Shaxson, in Treasure Islands, shows how the love of money and the hatred of loss trump any national feelings, and sense of common humanity, any kind of care at all.
    The money moving game to save every penny of tax possible is based on what is likely the strongest force of all — some agglomeration of money, status, gaming, power, fun, fear of loss, Hobbesian anxiety over death, and a sense of property boundaries that is truly amazing.
    What these accountants and industrialists and financiers do to avoid giving over a penny to a government….
    Given the strength of the force that money exerts on some small percentage of the 6+ billion of us on the planet, it’s no wonder we cannot get the money out of these accounts, circulate it through the tax system, build things, make things, feed and shelter people, cure diseases, make life manageable. Any amount of help we give another person would require the breaking of the bonds that hold money in the hands of financiers. We don’t defy gravity. We’re not going to get this money.
    If Geithner et al have any insight at all into what is possible to do with the economic mess of the world, likely it is that this money is untouchable.
    Any attempt to nab and imprison the miscreants, any attempt to find the money (the layers of subterfuge described by Shaxson are really something) will only result in more hiding, more fleeing of money, more islands’ setting up secret and unknown and unknowable money pits.
    Whatever we end up doing with the economy, it’s not going to include capturing offshore money. Unless maybe there’s some chapter at the end of the book that shows precisely how to attract repatriation….
    Much of what happens to this money, in terms of moving profits around, is perfectly legal, and the governments that encourage the inflows are gaming each other to the very bottommost pits of hell, while collecting fees for every transaction.
    Because the money isn’t in the nation, and the financiers have no national loyalty, there is absolutely no countervailing power whatsoever.
    The only thing I can think of is if we all collectively stop paying rents. Who’s the first to give up telecom, banking, commodities, utilities, transit, and the rest of modern exchange……
    We are truly stuck.


  7. JohnH says:

    The message is clear. It’s time for a revival of the Bull Moose party, restoration of anti-trust laws, breaking the back of the oligopoly.
    So far, it looks like moose are doing more damage to economic elites than the electorate has…


  8. DakotabornKansan says:

    Maybe that moose was Bullwinkle J. Moose!


  9. Tim Degnan says:

    Years ago I was chastised by a Park Ranger for running on a trail outside the Jackson Lake Lodge (Wyoming) during Moose rutting season. Turns out Moose can be as aggressive as Bears when they encounter runners. So, Steve, I’m grateful you didn’t stumble onto a Moose and her calf or an over excited bull during your run. By the way, if you do encounter a Moose while jogging I was advised to stop, sloooowly back up and if that fails climb the nearest tree.


  10. Mr.Murder says:

    Is there an insurance exemption for Moose collisions? Find the nearest limping Moose and ticket him for jaywalking?


  11. DakotabornKansan says:

    No moose in Kansas; only a favorite, local bar and grill, the Blue Moose. They serve Moosehead beer.
    We do, however, have a lot of deer. Even within the metropolitan area. I see them occasionally in my yard early in the morning.
    And there are a lot of car crashes involving deer out here in the Midwest. They say that there are more than 1.5 million crashes involving deer each year in the US causing over one billion dollars in damage; 150 of deer


  12. Carroll says:

    In the picture there is a police vehicle behind her and she is on what looks like a four lane highway.
    If that is where it happened how do you miss seeing a Moose crossing a four lane highway?


  13. Carroll says:

    How did she miss seeing a Moose?
    Talking on her cell phone maybe?
    Reminds me of the other ‘Greenspan” who missed everything….
    “Standard & Poor’s on Monday maintained its ‘AAA’ credit rating on the Unites States, but lowered its long-term outlook to negative from stable, citing in part the country


  14. PissedOffAmerican says:

    A few years back, I got into a bit of a snit with one of our local sod farmers. Immediately after passing a sign that warned motorists of a popular elk crossing, he hit an elk calf and killed it. The damage to his truck, and the fact the calf was killed, clearly demonstrated that he completely disregarded the sign, and was driving way too fast to be passing through an area that was known to have extensive wildlife activity.
    Your friend states that “I hope I never see another one”. Personally, if she drives in the area again, I hope she DOES see another one, BEFORE its too late to avoid hitting it. I hope too, that she sees the sign that so clearly spelled out the danger she so obviously missed seeing, or simply disregarded.


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