LIVE STREAM: What Do Israelis Think about Negotiations, Threats, and Barack Obama?


A new survey commissioned by the New America Foundation and conducted this November by Gerstein Agne Strategic Communications reveals that Israeli opinions of President Obama and the peace process contrast starkly with popular reports — though Israeli support for Prime Minister Netanyahu and his security-focused policies also remains strong.
In particular, the poll discredits what has become a bit of an urban legend that claims that President Obama has a 4% approval rating among Israelis.
To discuss the results of the poll, the New America Foundation/Middle East Task Force is hosting an event TODAY, Thursday December 10 from 9:15am – 1:00pm.
This event will stream live here at The Washington Note.
The agenda for today’s session is below.
Panel I – 9:45am to 11:00am: ‘Presentation of NAF Israel Attitudes Poll Results and Response’
Jim Gerstein
Founding Partner, Gerstein | Agne Strategic Communications
Gil Tamary
Washington Bureau Chief
Israel TV10
Toni Verstandig
Senior Policy Adviser, Center for Middle East Peace
Director, Middle East Programs
The Aspen Institute
Susan Glasser
Executive Editor, Foreign Policy Magazine
Panel II- 11:00am to 12:00pm: ‘The American Politics Portal: Any Implications from Poll Results?’
Dr. Stephen P. Cohen
Author, Beyond America’s Grasp: A Century of Failed Diplomacy in the Middle East
Founder and President, Institute for Middle East Peace and Development
James Pinkerton
Contributor, Fox News Channel
Senior Adviser, Huckabee for President Campaign
Heather Hurlburt
Executive Director, National Security Network
Former Special Assistant and Speech Writer to President Clinton
Steve Clemons
Director, American Strategy Program
New America Foundation
Panel III- 12:00pm to 1:00pm: ‘Taking Stock of Current Developments in the Region and What are the Policy Options Going Forward’
Shibley Telhami
Anwar Sadat Professor for Peace and Development
University of Maryland
Non-Resident Fellow, Saban Center
The Brookings Institution
Daniel Levy
Senior Research Fellow
Co-Director, Middle East Task Force
New America Foundation
Brian Katulis
Senior Fellow
Center for American Progress
Amjad Atallah
Co-Director, Middle East Task Force
New America Foundation
— Steve Clemons


20 comments on “LIVE STREAM: What Do Israelis Think about Negotiations, Threats, and Barack Obama?

  1. questions says:

    Above comment not directed at the original post, by the way!


  2. questions says:

    Yawn, stretch, snooze.


  3. nadine says:

    POA, just for you, the latest human interest story from Gaza as reported by Al Jazeera:

    News Middle East
    Gazans fleeced in investment scam
    Underground tunnels in the Gaza Strip are the only way for millions of dollars worth of essential supplies to get past Israel’s siege of the coastal territory.
    But it has now emerged that at least 40,000 Gazans have lost their life savings in a scheme that promised up to 50 per cent profits in return for an investment in tunnel trading.
    Hamas, which has de facto control of Gaza, returned a fraction of the $100m that disappeared through the scheme, and has said that is investigating the fraud.
    However, with hundreds of middlemen as yet unpunished and many of them rumoured to have had links to Hamas, the duped Gazans say that more should be done.
    Al Jazeera’s Zeina Awad reports from Gaza.”
    If you listen to the video, a Gazan economist tells the Al Jazeera reporter that the amount lost was at least $200 million. Wow, that’s a lot of moolah to fleece from a population usually described as starving concentration camp inhabitants. And by middlemen who were plausible precisely because of their Hamas connections!
    There’s some nice local color in the reporter’s head shots in the local produce market. Wonder if she had to post a lookout to make sure the Virtue Police didn’t beat her up for broadcasting bare-headed.


  4. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “glad you enjoyed the link in your 11:29am post poa…it’s the same one in my post here from yesterday…”
    Well good. Ya think maybe “questions” read it twice? Even if so, I doubt it sunk in.


  5. ... says:

    glad you enjoyed the link in your 11:29am post poa…it’s the same one in my post here from yesterday…


  6. PissedOffAmerican says:

    American Jews eye Obama’s ‘anti-Israel’ appointees
    By Natasha Mozgovaya
    Every appointee to the American government must endure a thorough background check by the American Jewish community.
    In the case of Obama’s government in particular, every criticism against Israel made by a potential government appointee has become a catalyst for debate about whether appointing “another leftist” offers proof that Obama does not truly support Israel.


  7. Dewey Tellit says:

    November 10, 2008
    Obama, Rahm-bo and the End of the New American Century
    Conned Again?
    If the change President-elect Obama has promised includes a halt to America’s wars of aggression and an end to the rip-off of taxpayers by powerful financial interests, what explains Obama’s choice of foreign and economic policy advisors? Indeed, Obama’s selection of Rahm Emanuel as White House chief of staff is a signal that change ended with Obama’s election. The only thing different about the new administration will be the faces.
    Rahm Emanuel is a supporter of Bush’s invasion of Iraq. Emanuel rose to prominence in the Democratic Party as a result of his fundraising connections to AIPAC. A strong supporter of the American Israeli Public Affairs Committee, he comes from a terrorist family. His father was a member of Irgun, a Jewish terrorist organization that used violence to drive the British and Palestinians out of Palestine in order to create the Jewish state. During the 1991 Gulf War, Rahm Emanuel volunteered to serve in the Israel Defense Forces. He was a member of the Freddie Mac board of directors and received $231,655 in directors fees in 2001. According to Wikipedia, “during the time Emanuel spent on the board, Freddie Mac was plagued with scandals involving campaign contributions and accounting irregularities.”
    In “Hail to the Chief of Staff,” Alexander Cockburn describes Emanuel as “a super-Likudnik hawk,” who as chairman of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee in 2006 “made great efforts to knock out antiwar Democratic candidates.”
    My despondent friends in the Israeli peace movement ask, “What is this man doing in Obama’s administration?”
    Obama’s election was necessary as the only means Americans had to hold the Republicans accountable for their crimes against the Constitution and human rights, for their violations of US and international laws, for their lies and deceptions, and for their financial chicanery. As an editorial in Pravda put it, “Only Satan would have been worse than the Bush regime. Therefore it could be argued that the new administration in the USA could never be worse than the one which divorced the hearts and minds of Americans from their brothers in the international community, which appalled the rest of the world with shock and awe tactics that included concentration camps, torture, mass murder and utter disrespect for international law.”
    But Obama’s advisers are drawn from the same gang of Washington thugs and Wall Street banksters as Bush’s. Richard Holbrooke, was an assistant secretary of state and ambassador in the Clinton administration. He implemented the policy to enlarge NATO and to place the military alliance on Russia’s border in contravention of Reagan’s promise to Gorbachev. Holbrooke is also associated with the Clinton administration’s illegal bombing of Serbia, a war crime that killed civilians and Chinese diplomats. If not a neocon himself, Holbrooke is closely allied with them.
    Madeline Albright is the Clinton era secretary of state who told Leslie Stahl (60 Minutes) that the US policy of Iraq sanctions, which resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi children, had goals important enough to justify the children’s deaths. Albright’s infamous words: “we think the price is worth it.” Wikipedia reports that this immoralist served on the board of directors of the New York Stock Exchange at the time of Dick Grasso’s $187.5 million compensation scandal.
    Dennis Ross has long associations with the Israeli-Palestinian “peace negotiations.” A member of his Clinton era team, Aaron David Miller, wrote that during 1999-2000 the US negotiating team led by Ross acted as Israel’s lawyer: “we had to run everything by Israel first.” This “stripped our policy of the independence and flexibility required for serious peacemaking. If we couldn’t put proposals on the table without checking with the Israelis first, and refused to push back when they said no, how effective could our mediation be?” According to Wikipedia, Ross is “chairman of a new Jerusalem-based think tank, the Jewish People Policy Planning Institute, funded and founded by the Jewish Agency.”
    Clearly, this is not a group of advisors that is going to halt America’s wars against Israel’s enemies or force the Israeli government to accept the necessary conditions for a real peace in the Middle East.
    Ralph Nader predicted as much. In his “Open Letter to Barack Obama (November 3, 2008), Nader pointed out to Obama that his “transformation from an articulate defender of Palestinian rights . . . to a dittoman for the hard-line AIPAC lobby” puts Obama at odds with “a majority of Jewish-Americans” and “64 per cent of Israelis.” Nader quotes the Israeli writer and peace advocate Uri Avnery’s description of Obama’s appearance before AIPAC as an appearance that “broke all records for obsequiousness and fawning.” Nader damns Obama for his “utter lack of political courage [for] surrendering to demands of the hard-liners to prohibit former president Jimmy Carter from speaking at the Democratic National Convention.” Carter, who achieved the only meaningful peace agreement between Israel and the Arabs, has been demonized by the powerful AIPAC lobby for criticizing Israel’s policy of apartheid toward the Palestinians whose territory Israel forcibly occupies.
    Obama’s economic team is just as bad. Its star is Robert Rubin, the bankster who was secretary of the treasury in the Clinton administration. Rubin has responsibility for the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act and, thereby, responsibility for the current financial crisis. In his letter to Obama, Nader points out that Obama received unprecedented campaign contributions from corporate and Wall Street interests. “Never before has a Democratic nominee for President achieved this supremacy over his Republican counterpart.”
    Obama’s victory speech was magnificent. The TV cameras scanning faces in the audience showed the hope and belief that propelled Obama into the presidency. But Obama cannot bring change to Washington. There is no one in the Washington crowd that he can appoint who is capable of bringing change. If Obama were to reach outside the usual crowd, anyone suspected of being a bringer of change could not get confirmed by the Senate. Powerful interest groups–AIPAC, the military-security complex, Wall Street–use their political influence to block unacceptable appointments.
    As Alexander Cockburn said of Obama in a pre-eection column, column “never has the dead hand of the past had a ‘reform’ candidate so firmly by the windpipe.” Obama confirmed Cockburn’s verdict in his first press conference as president-elect. Disregarding the unanimous US National Intelligence Estimate, which concluded that Iran stopped working on nuclear weapons five years ago, and ignoring the continued certification by the International Atomic Energy Agency that none of the nuclear material for Iran’s civilian nuclear reactor has been diverted to weapons use, Obama sallied forth with the Israel Lobby’s propaganda and accused Iran of “development of a nuclear weapon” and vowing “to prevent that from happening.”
    The change that is coming to America has nothing to do with Obama. Change is coming from the financial crisis brought on by Wall Street greed and irresponsibility, from the eroding role of the US dollar as reserve currency, from countless mortgage foreclosures, from the offshoring of millions of America’s best jobs, from a deepening recession, from pillars of American manufacturing–Ford and GM–begging the government for taxpayers’ money to stay alive, and from budget and trade deficits that are too large to be closed by normal means.
    Traditionally, the government relies on monetary and fiscal policy to lift the economy out of recession. But easy money is not working. Interest rates are already low and monetary growth is already high, yet unemployment is rising. The budget deficit is already huge–a world record–and the red ink is not stimulating the economy. Can even lower interest rates and even higher budget deficits help an economy that has moved offshore, leaving behind jobless consumers overburdened with debt?
    How much more can the government borrow? America’s foreign creditors are asking this question. An official organ of the Chinese ruling party recently called for Asian and European countries to “banish the US dollar from their direct trade relations, relying only on their own currencies.”
    “Why,” asks another Chinese publication, “should China help the US to issue debt without end in the belief that the national credit of the US can expand without limit?”
    The world has tired of American hegemony and had its fill of American arrogance. America’s reputation is in tatters: the financial debacle, endless red ink, Abu Ghraib, Gitmo, rendition, torture, illegal wars based on lies and deception, disrespect for the sovereignty of other countries, war crimes, disregard for international law and the Geneva Conventions, the assault on habeas corpus and the separation of powers, a domestic police state, constant interference in the internal affairs of other countries, boundless hypocrisy.
    The change that is coming is the end of American empire. The hegemon has run out of money and influence. Obama as “America’s First Black President” will lift hopes and, thus, allow the act to be carried on a little longer. But the New American Century is already over.


  8. Dewey Tellit says:

    August 19, 2009
    Americans: Serfs Ruled by Oligarchs
    “In a little time [there will be] no middling sort. We shall have a few, and but a very few Lords, and all the rest beggars.” R.L. Bushman
    “Rapidly you are dividing into two classes–extreme rich and extreme poor.” “Brutus”
    Americans think that they have “freedom and democracy” and that politicians are held accountable by elections. The fact of the matter is that the US is ruled by powerful interest groups who control politicians with campaign contributions. Our real rulers are an oligarchy of financial and military/security interests and AIPAC, which influences US foreign policy for the benefit of Israel.
    Have a look at economic policy. It is being run for the benefit of large financial concerns, such as Goldman Sachs.
    It was the banks, not the millions of Americans who have lost homes, jobs, health insurance, and pensions, that received $700 billion in TARP funds. The banks used this gift of capital to make more profits. In the middle of the worst economic downturn since the Great Depression, Goldman Sachs announced record second quarter profits and large six-figure bonuses for every employee.
    The Federal Reserve’s low interest rate policy is another gift to the banks. It lowers their cost of funds and increases their profits. With the repeal of the Glass-Steagall Act in 1999, banks became high-risk investment houses that trade financial instruments such as interest rate derivatives and mortgage backed securities. With abundant funds supplied virtually free by the Federal Reserve, banks are paying depositors virtually nothing on their savings.
    Despite the Federal Reserve’s low interest rate policy, beginning October 1 banks are raising the annual percentage rate (APR) on credit card purchases and cash advances and on balances that have a penalty rate because of late payment. Banks are also raising the late fee. In the midst of the worst economy since the 1930s, heavily indebted Americans, who are losing their jobs and their homes, are to be bled into bankruptcy by the very banks that are being subsidized with TARP funds and low interest rates.
    Moreover, it is the American public that is on the hook for the TARP money and the low interest rates. As the US government’s budget is 50 per cent or more in the red, the TARP money has to be borrowed from abroad or monetized by the Fed. This means more pressure on the US dollar’s exchange value and a rise in import prices and also domestic inflation.
    Americans will thus pay for the TARP and low interest rate subsidies to their financial rulers with erosion in the purchasing power of the dollar. What we are experiencing is a massive redistribution of income from the American public to the financial sector.
    And this is occurring during a Democratic administration headed by America’s first black president, with a Democratic majority in the House and Senate.
    Is there a government anywhere that less represents its citizens than the US government?
    Consider America’s wars. As of the moment of writing, the out-of-pocket cost of America’s wars in Iraq and Afghanistan is $900,000,000,000. When you add in the already incurred future costs of veterans benefits, interest on the debt, the forgone use of the resources for productive purposes, and such other costs as computed by Nobel economist Joseph Stiglitz and Harvard University budget expert Linda Bilmes, “our” government has wasted $3,000,000,000,000–three thousand billion dollars–on two wars that have no benefit whatsoever for any American whose income does not derive from the military/security complex, about which five-star general President Eisenhower warned us.
    It is now a proven fact that the US invasion of Iraq was based on lies and deception of the American public. The only beneficiaries were the armaments industries, Blackwater, Halliburton, military officers who enjoy higher rates of promotion during war, and Muslim extremists whose case the US government proved by its unprovoked aggression against Muslims. No one else benefitted. Iraq was a threat to no one, and finding Saddam Hussein and executing him after a kangaroo trial had no effect whatsoever on ending the war or preventing the start of others.
    The cost of America’s wars is a huge burden on a bankrupt country, but the cost incurred by veterans might be even higher. Homelessness is a prevalent condition of veterans, as is post-traumatic stress. American soldiers, who naively fought for the munitions industry’s wars, for high compensation for the munitions CEOs, and for dividends and capital gains for the munitions shareholders, paid not only with lives and lost limbs, but also with broken marriages, ruined careers, psychiatric disorders, and prison sentences for failing to make child support payments.
    What did Americans gain from an unaffordable war in Iraq that lasted far longer than World War II and that put into power Shi’ites allied with Iran?
    The answer is obvious: nothing whatsoever.
    What did the armaments industry gain? Billions of dollars in profits.
    Obama is the presidential candidate who promised to end the war in Iraq. He hasn’t. But he has escalated the war in Afghanistan, started a new war in Pakistan, intends to repeat the Yugoslav scenario in the Caucasus, and appears determined to start a war in South America. In response to the acceptance by US puppet president of Columbia, Alvaro Uribe, of seven US military bases in Columbia, Venezuela warned South American countries that the “winds or war are beginning to blow.”
    Here we have the US government, totally dependent on the generosity of foreigners to finance its red ink, which extends in large quantities as far as the eye can see, completely under the thumb of the military/security complex, which will destroy us all in order to meet Wall Street share price expectations.
    Why does any American care who rules Afghanistan? The country has nothing to do with us.
    Did the armed services committees of the House and Senate calculate the risk of destabilizing nuclear armed Pakistan when they acquiesced to Obama’s new war there, a war that has already displaced two million Pakistanis?
    No, of course not. The whores took their orders from the same military/security oligarchy that instructed Obama.
    The great American superpower and its 300 million people are being driven straight into the ground by the narrow interest of the big banks and the munitions industry. People, and not only Americans, are losing their sons, husbands, brothers, and fathers for no other reason than the profits of US armaments corporations, and the gullible American people seem proud of it. Those ribbon decals on their cars, SUVs and monster trucks proclaim their naive loyalty to the armaments industries and to the whores in Washington who promote wars.
    Will Americans, smashed and destroyed by “their” government’s policy, which always puts Americans last, ever understand who their real enemies are?
    Will Americans realize that they are not ruled by elected representatives but by an oligarchy that owns the Washington whorehouse?
    Will Americans ever understand that they are impotent serfs?


  9. Mr.Murder says:

    When Israel initially acted like it would moderate, it eased some concerns regionally. Oil ticked downwards marginally, as a reflection of that fact.
    As with anything political the solution usually goes:
    “follow the money”
    DC needs to see the big picture, some of it does already. Never mind things like the lobby that actually helped scrap an agreement over a hopeful theme park at the Sea of Galileee. That’s right, we wanted to make the Holy Land into A new Dollywood. It only took a few right wing religious tax shelter types to cobble together a coalition of the bribed. All of this served as means for stopping steps in the right direction.
    Perhaps the nonprofit status of a few NGO neeeds to be examined when they play a role in trying to shape policy where spend so much. It’s pretty clear a cottage iundustry is built upon the area remaining destablized.


  10. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Meanwhile, Netanyahu has just offered the settlers a huge benefit package with transportation, education, and medical aid.
    And the leader of the Palestinian protest movement in Bilin, protesting the illegal separation wall, was “taken from his home” by the Israelis early Thursday.
    Construction continues, and many ploys are being used by the settlers to circumvent this joke known as a “construction freeze”, as the Israeli authorities turn a blind eye.
    All this occurs with nary a word from these intimidated charlatans in the White House, who can’t seem to actually walk their talk. The “hard line” with Israel is just posture, designed for its political benefits with the Muslim Global community, rather than an effort to actually change Israeli behaviour and policy. But these political postures go completely un-enforced, without comment or censure when Israel ignores them. Are these assholes in Washington so enamored of themselves, and so patronizing and prejudiced that they think the global Muslim community is comprised of fools and idiots???? Do they think the Muslims cannot discern what an outside the beltway carpenter in Central California sees as plain as day????
    What reason or incentive does Israel have to compromise or give concessions? These posturing assholes in the White House don’t even bother to comment on Israel’s intransigence, illegal practices, or treatment of peaceful protestors, much less attempt to hold Israel to its word.


  11. PissedOffAmerican says:

    I see the NAF poll was cited on Haaretz…


  12. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Amazing. Someone who has claimed that no Palestinians have been deprived of medical care, and that Palestinian kids aren’t going hungry, wants to check on the credibility of NAF’s poll? What interest does someone, who can make such claims, have in “credibility”?


  13. nadine says:

    jdledell, the Jpost survey said who got polled and what got asked. All I’m asking is for this new NAF poll that Steve is making so much of to do the same. Many things COULD account for the discrepancy; I want to see what actually DID account for it. That’s not too much to ask, surely.


  14. jdledell says:

    Nadine – The above survey was conducted of “Israelis”. Believe it or not but some Israelis are not Jewish. As you know, most Israeli surveys totally avoid polling Israeli Palestinians, as I’m sure the JPost survey did. This fact can account for some of the differences between the two polls.
    This is a symptom of an Israeli problem in that they consider the opinions and issues of non-Jews to be absolutely irrelevent.


  15. nadine says:

    update: forgot the first part of the Jpost quote:
    “The number of Israelis who see US President Barack Obama’s policies as pro-Israel has fallen to four percent, according to a Smith Research poll taken this week on behalf of The Jerusalem Post. ”


  16. nadine says:

    If this new NAF poll really “discredits” the earlier Jerusalem Post, let’s see their data: whom did they sample and what questions did they ask? Anybody else find it strange that we’re not being told this and they provide no links to their data?
    In contrast the August 28 Jpost poll was quite straightforward in reporting their results:
    Fifty-one percent of Jewish Israelis consider Obama’s administration more pro-Palestinian than pro-Israel, according to the survey, while 35% consider it neutral and 10% declined to express an opinion. The poll of 500 people representing a statistical model of the Jewish Israeli population had a margin of error of 4.5%.
    It’s easy to push-poll the Israeli/Palestinian question to get the answers you want. Let’s see the data.


  17. Outraged American says:

    The Germs finally stand-up to Israel “German ex-diplomats:
    Constant support of Israel must cease”
    From Ynet (Israel) News:
    Dec. 9, 09 h/t
    Former German ambassadors call for assertive stand against
    Israel’s settlement policy; say Israel cannot have peace, keep
    hold on territories
    Twenty-four former German ambassadors urged the German
    government to take a harder position against Israel and to
    rethink its Middle East policy.
    In letters sent to German Chancellor Angela Merkel and Foreign
    Minister Guido Westerwelle, they ask for a more resolute stance
    against Israel’s settlement policy.
    ”Israel will not be able to keep on hoping to gain peace and
    retain its hold on Palestinian territories at the same time,” the
    group wrote in a position paper quoted by the Süddeutsche
    Zeitung daily.


  18. Kathleen says:

    Israel is doing great harm to itself by not really being willing to negotizte fairly. Doing far more harm anger, resistance the BDS movement are building. Israel is being shown as it really is an apartheid and very racist country
    Off topic
    Look what is happenning in Ohio right now
    Senator Voinovich
    1-866-220-0044 (Congressional Switchboard – Toll Free)
    216-522-7095 (Cleveland Office)
    216-522-7097 (Cleveland Fax)
    “I am calling as a constituent from Ohio and I am demanding that Senator Voinovich vote for the Sander’s amendment, a national single payer plan. As a self proclaimed fiscal hawk, Senator Voinovich should realize that this is the only method that will provide health care to ALL Americans while saving costs. Some inner city school districts in Ohio could save up to 28 million dollars a year on their health care costs. Medicare for All would also create approximately 2.6 million jobs, slightly less than the total number of jobs lost in 2008. In the Senator’s last term in Congress, he should stand up for this moral issue, and realize that health care is a human right. A group of activists in Cleveland are currently sitting in outside the Senator’s office to demand that Sen. Voinovich support the Sanders amendment, and that he donate the $582,516 he received from the insurance and pharmaceutical industries during the 2008 election cycle to The Free Clinic of Greater Cleveland. They will remain at the federal building until Senator Voinovich agrees to these terms or law enforcement removes them. The Senator works for them, and we all say Medicare for ALL, support the Sander’s amendment!”
    Senator Sherrod Brown
    1-866-220-0044 (Congressional Switchboard – Toll Free)
    202-228-6321 (Washington DC Fax)
    216-522-7272 (Cleveland Office)
    216-522-2239 (Cleveland Fax)
    “I am calling as a constituent from Ohio, and I’d like to thank Senator Brown for cosponsoring the Sander’s amendment for a national single payer health care plan. Medicare for All is the only way to provide health care to everyone in America and cut health care costs. We hope to see Senator Brown continue to advocate for real health care reform.”
    Once you have made a round of calls, start at the top and make them again! Our goal is to make sure that our legislators know that we support single payer Medicare for All, and any less will not do. Thanks for all of the great work you do!
    Yours in solidarity,
    Drew Smith
    Mobilize Ohio Movement


  19. ... says:

    well we know what americans think ( when they do think) about how their political world is israel controlled… wonder when a similar forum will be set up to examine this???


  20. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “James Pinkerton”
    (-Contributor, Fox News Channel)
    (-Senior Adviser, Huckabee for President Campaign)
    I hope you rake Pinkerton’s support of this religious wackjob Huckabee over the coals, but I know you won’t.
    Huckabee’s statements while recently in Israel reveal someone that won’t bat an eye if Israel incinerates every man, woman, and child in Gaza. One must wonder if this Fox News wonder boy, Pinkerton, shares Huckabee’s dangerous religious zealotry.
    One also wonders if anyone that would lower themselves to the Fox News standards of journalism has anything credible to add to ANY debate, about ANY subject.


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