Dodd’s Firefighters Take On Giuliani


Not sure what I really think about this video — it’s sort of a free ad (without the gloss) for Chris Dodd.
But it is interesting to hear about firefighters taking their role in the Iowa caucuses as seriously as these guys do.
It’s easy to understand why Rudy Giuliani abandoned Iowa today after this encounter.
— Steve Clemons


7 comments on “Dodd’s Firefighters Take On Giuliani

  1. pauline says:

    rudy, you lying a**h*le, go directly to h*ll, do not pass go, do not collect millions for your “terror consulting”.
    August 2006: Book Challenges Image of Giuliani as 9/11 Hero
    A book is released that questions the conventional heroic image of then New York City Mayor Rudolph Giuliani on 9/11. Grand Illusion: The Untold Story of Rudy Giuliani and 9/11 is by investigative reporters Wayne Barrett and Dan Collins. Barrett is a senior writer at the Village Voice, and Collins is a senior producer at [Los Angeles Times, 8/22/2006] For their book, they had exclusive access to never before seen 9/11 Commission interviews, and managed to get frank statements from some central figures, though Giuliani himself refused to be interviewed. [Barrett and Collins, 2006, pp. 363; Newsday, 8/23/2006] The New York Daily News calls the book an “exhaustively researched and unsentimental peek behind the mythology [that] strongly suggests that Giuliani and his top deputies committed many errors that did grave, even fatal, harm to citizens, emergency responders and recovery teams before, on and after that terrible day.” [New York Daily News, 8/22/2006] The book criticizes Giuliani’s claim that, after becoming mayor in 1994, he made preparing New York’s response to a future terrorist attack a priority. According to Barrett and Collins’ research, in the aftermath of the 1993 WTC bombing, he in fact failed to understand the importance of preparing the city for another attack. They write, “The facts, depressing but unavoidable, were that Giuliani had allowed the city to meet the disaster of September 11 unprepared in a myriad of ways.” [Los Angeles Times, 8/22/2006; Newsday, 8/23/2006] The book criticizes Giuliani’s decision to locate New York’s emergency command center on the 23rd floor of World Trade Center Building 7 — across the street from an obvious terrorist target — despite the objections of senior fire and police officials. [New York Daily News, 8/22/2006; Newsweek, 9/11/2006; New York Times, 11/12/2006] The inadequacy of fire department radios on 9/11 is examined in detail. These same radios had failed when used at the 1993 WTC bombing. New radios were only provided in March 2001, but these failed in their first week of use and were withdrawn. Also, the fact that the police and fire departments were equipped with incompatible radios meant that many firefighters did not get the mayday call to evacuate the North Tower before it collapsed on 9/11. [Los Angeles Times, 8/22/2006; Newsweek, 9/11/2006; Democracy Now!, 1/3/2007] The book also criticizes the fact that, after 9/11, construction workers and firefighters were permitted to work at Ground Zero without protective respiratory gear. Subsequently, thousands of them became afflicted with upper respiratory illnesses. [New York Daily News, 8/22/2006] Grand Illusion receives much praise, though the New York Times criticizes its “relentlessly hostile tone,” which, it claims, “undermines the authors’ case.” [New York Times, 11/12/2006]
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  2. pauline says:

    Yes, and too bad Paul can’t get on the Fox News debate (or just get on Fox News) to explain himself. I don’t know what he could be trying to get across other than the obvious. Also, I heard the religious hucksterbee saying, if elected, he would arrest any doctor offering abortions. (I’m assuming he thinks Roe vs. Wade would be overturned before he started rounding up his anti-MD-choice posse.)
    So, which repub wannabe is better or worse for this country? The religious hucksterbee shows a much bigger chance (still slight, but…) of landing a nomination over Ron Paul’s miniscule slim-to-none chance. So how would America’s attempts for rebuilding both our economy and reputation (after the disatrous fascist bush regime years) go if we had a president who wants to shine a flashlight both in my/your bedroom and my/your doctor’s office? And this religious huckster thinks anyone who’s not onboard exactly with his religious beliefs is eternally damned? Could AIPAC go along with that! Well, maybe they could convince him to go along with their “business as usual” tactics because the huckster believes those Israelis and his “flock” will all be involved in some armageddon sooner if not later. I’d think any meetings with Muslim-Americans would not be on popping up on his agenda. And if somehow the religious huckster snuck in, no Palestinian rights/state or ME peace would be on his “to do” list. He’s be marching to armageddon while praising AIPAC.
    I just finished watching John Edwards on C-Span give his stump speech in Iowa. He worked the crowd with his populist ideals du jour, and while he sounds reasonable, I’m just not certain with him either. He may be the best of the used-car salesmen on the lot!
    Regardless of a bad Ron Paul ad, I am quite certain who is not on my list of preferred candidates.
    1. HRC
    2. rudy
    3. lawandorder thompson
    4. lawandorder mccain
    5. religious hucksterbee


  3. PissedOffAmerican says:

    I was extremely dissappointed to see the campaign add that Paul is running in Iowa that advocates a no student visa policy towards students from “terrorist nations”. It is this kind of generalization in rhetoric that is one of Bush’s more despicable traits. To see Paul using such vaque terminology and tacit stereotyping is extremely disheartening to say the least.
    To be sure, such rhetoric will probably ring sweet to a large number of Republicans, but Ron Paul will not be elected by the hard core Republican voters that this add will appeal to. Paul needs to reach out to the disillusioned Democratic voters, and the Independents, who are far less prone to react favorably to this ad. It was a terrible mistake in strategy, and is perhaps even a disturbing window into Paul’s inner thinking.


  4. pauline says:

    I think so little of lowly liar giuliani, I’m including another source of the Ron Paul slam by Fox News. btw, with all the talk of which candidate has more foreign policy experience, why would anyone except ridiculous rudy think he’s qualifed as president of this country when he’s only been a mayor?
    Paul: Fox News is ‘scared of me’
    By James Pindell December 29, 2007 01:40 PM
    PLAISTOW, N.H. — Ron Paul said the decision to exclude him from a debate on Fox News Sunday the weekend before the New Hampshire Primary is proof that the network “is scared” of him.
    “They are scared of me and don’t want my message to get out, but it will,” Paul said in an interview at a diner here. “They are propagandists for this war and I challenge them on the notion that they are conservative.”
    Paul’s staff said they are beginning to plan a rally that will take place at the same time the 90-minute debate will air on television. It will be taped at Saint Anselm College in Goffstown.
    “They will not win this skirmish,” he promised.
    The Fox debate occurs less than 24 hours after two back to back Republican and Democratic debates on the same campus sponsored by ABC News, WMUR-TV and the social networking website Facebook.
    Paul, the Republican Texas Congressman, was wrapping up his final day of campaigning in New Hampshire until the Iowa Caucuses on Thursday.
    He spent much of the day campaigning at diners in Manchester and Plaistow and downtown walks in Derry and Exeter.
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  5. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “It certainly sounded like Deady wasn’t just targeting so-called “Islamofascists,” but rather was talking publicly about chasing all Muslims “back to their caves,” and getting “rid of them.””
    You haven’t been listening the RW talk radio, have you? There has been no distinction made between “radical Islamists” and the Muslim faith for some time now. This business of lumping them all together into a writhing mass of evil doers is the norm rather than the exception now. Just tune in to the shows of these big mouthed assholes like Limbaugh, Levin, Savage, Coulter, Ingram, etc, and you are in for a real eye opener. Whats worse, there are people eating this shit up like it is gospel. Just yesterday I was listening to some puke on our local RW AM station saying that the Muslims should NEVER be handed a democracy, because they are too ignorant, bloodthirsty, and backwards. He stated that the ONLY way to “control” the Muslims was to support dictatorships that kept them “under control”.
    Whats interesting about the major RW radio talk shows is the amazing “coincidence” that their “topics of the day” always seem to coincide in what “issue” is being raised. It is ridiculous to think that this is not by design, or that they are not being handed talking points by the neocon monsters pressing for the exermination of the “evil doers”.
    People can call me crazy all they want, but I stand by my assertion that by the time these monsters pushing this charade called the “GWOT” are finished, the death toll is going to be in the high millions, possibly the billions.


  6. PissedOffAmerican says:
    Ron Paul excluded from Fox News forum Larry Fester
    Published 12/29/2007 – 5:50 p.m. EST
    Republican fund raising frontrunner Ron Paul will apparently be excluded from a Fox News Forum scheduled for just two days before the New Hampshire Primary.
    Paul’s campaign said “According to the New Hampshire State Republican Party and an Associated Press report, Republican presidential candidate and Texas Congressman Ron Paul will be excluded from an upcoming forum of Republican candidates to be broadcast by Fox News on January 6, 2008.” The decision appears to have been made by Fox News.
    “Given Ron Paul’s support in New Hampshire and his recent historic fundraising success, it is outrageous that Dr. Paul would be excluded,” said Ron Paul 2008 campaign chairman Kent Snyder. “Dr. Paul has consistently polled higher in New Hampshire than some of the other candidates who have been invited.”
    Snyder continued, “Paul supporters should know that we are continuing to make inquiries with Fox News as to why they have apparently excluded Dr. Paul from this event.” Link to PR
    Ron Paul made history on December 16th when he raised over 6 million dollars in one day. The amount is more than any other political candidate in history has accumulated in one day. In fact, Paul financially speaking is in the best position to win the Republican nomination and is already funded through February 5th when 23 states are up for grabs.
    There is a loophole regarding FCC equal time laws for breaking news and debates. Media conglomerates have been giving far less speaking time to Ron Paul during presidential debates and have given scant coverage to his campaign during newscasts. Regardless, Paul has embarrassed alleged frontrunners by raising more money than they have during the fourth quarter, remarkably from 50 and 100 dollar donors. Paul’s campaign has continuously drawn larger crowds than his opponents as well.
    The ultimate embarrassment may be to Fox News, especially if Paul wins the New Hampshire primary two days after the forum.
    While Paul has consistently registered poorly in media generated polls, his fund raising, and sizable crowds attending his rallies across the country, has made it obvious that he has enormous support.
    Paul continues to campaign to end the federal income tax and the Federal Reserve’s inflation tax by returning to ‘Sound Money’ policies. Paul promises to end the Iraq war and bring U.S. troops home immediately. He also promises to repeal the Patriot Act, protect the Bill of Rights, and the U.S. Constitution.
    Paul supports a non-interventionist foreign policy and has promised to secure America’s borders to strengthen national defense


  7. susan says:

    Rudy seems determined to generate lots of ill will:
    GIULIANI SURROGATE CALLS MUSLIMS ‘MADMEN’….John Deady, a designated surrogate for Rudy Giuliani’s presidential campaign, and a leader of “Veterans for Rudy,” was caught on video making some jaw-dropping comments about Muslims. Here’s what Deady said about Giuliani:
    “He’s got I believe the knowledge and the judgment to attack one of the most difficult problems in current history and that is the rise of the Muslims, and make no mistake about it, this hasn’t happened for a thousand years. These people are very, very dedicated and they’re also very smart, in their own way. We need to keep the feet to the fire and keep pressing these people until we defeat or chase them back to their caves — or in other words get rid of them.”
    It certainly sounded like Deady wasn’t just targeting so-called “Islamofascists,” but rather was talking publicly about chasing all Muslims “back to their caves,” and getting “rid of them.”
    Greg Sargent tracked Deady down yesterday afternoon, and the Giuliani surrogate didn’t back down at all. Indeed, he made matters worse. Asked, for example, if he stood by his comments, Deady said:
    “I most assuredly do. I’ve been very concerned about this Muslim thing for quite awhile. The average American does not know beans about what the Muslims are about. I am talking about the Muslims in general. I don’t subscribe to the principle that there are good Muslims and bad Muslims. They’re all Muslims.”
    Deady added, “When I say get rid of them, I wasn’t necessarily referring to genocide.”
    He wasn’t “necessarily” referring to genocide?
    As of late last night, the Giuliani campaign said it would ask Deady to resign “if these quotes are accurate.” Stay tuned.


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