A Neocon War-Planning Vacation to the Bahamas!


Jim Lobe, one of the best international affairs correspondents who has resisted the trend towards homogenization in his sector’s coverage, has launched a blog, and he has a cool expose on a neocon retreat being planned for the Bahamas on May 30.
The conference is titled “Confronting The Iranian Threat: The Way Forward.” Perhaps they’ll all get burned CDs of McCain singing “Bomb Bomb Bomb — Bomb Bomb Iran” as conference favors.
Take a look at the reported list of attendees — but be sure to distinguish between invited and confirmed. I don’t believe that US Ambassador to the UN Zal Khalilzad would dare attend this meeting.
Forget the token liberal at the party? Where is the token realist?
Stay tuned for a short expose on one of Vice President Cheney’s staff who is actively engaged in trying to trigger a hot war with Iran.
More soon.
— Steve Clemons


11 comments on “A Neocon War-Planning Vacation to the Bahamas!

  1. Sandy says:

    Wow, thank you for that. (Part II, that is.) I think it is clear from having read both parts and the Vanity Fair article that the reason Sibel Edmonds hasn’t heard back from anyone about all she obviously has there…..is that she is holding the golden thread.
    In pulling on that thread….the whole thing….the whole place…and all the players…become unraveled.
    The rock is lifted and the roaches scurry for cover, swarming out of the sunlight.
    Who will be the one to show the whole charade for what it really is?


  2. Sandy says:

    Hmmm. Now THAT is an interesting idea, Carroll. You believe Mueller, though, would pay any attention? Why? I read over POAs recent post about Sibel Edmonds…and the Vanity Fair link with her story. I’d be inclined to think it’s not likely.
    Some “government of the people, by the people, for the people.”
    Time to rent Woody Allen’s Bananas again! Try to laugh…while it’s still possible.


  3. Carroll says:

    I am begining to like Ron Paul more and more on the “bottom line foundation”….above the bottom line he is too libertarian on some things. If he could come around to the famous saying, by I can’t remember who, that ..”pure capitalism fails for the same reasons pure socialism fails”..I could be 100% on him.
    But this statement of his is right down my alley:
    “Peaceful, nonviolent revolutions against tyranny have been every bit as successful as those involving military confrontation. Mahatma Gandhi and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., achieved great political successes by practicing nonviolence, and yet they suffered physically at the hands of the state.
    “But whether the resistance against government tyrants is nonviolent or physically violent, the effort to overthrow state oppression qualifies as true patriotism.”
    However I think peaceful non violent movements are just about useless today, no one in DC pays any attention to them. The politicans think peaceful protest are just a “hobby” or social event for loonie liberals and us malcontents.
    I don’t know what form of peaceful protest should be pursued next. Maybe instead of all the “petitions” presented to the WH and congress we should get up a petition to present to Muller at the FBI asking him to investigate various members of congress political and self interested motives on continuing the Iraq war and attacking Iran. Who cares whether there are actual legal grounds for such a request or not, it’s the point that counts…if Bush and congress can invent/ignore their own laws so can we.


  4. ... says:

    well the dems have clearly sold out on bushs request for more iraq war funding with no timetable for troop withdrawal.. i remember a few months ago saying here how i thought the dems were a complete disappointment and some were baffled by that… how does it look now? there are in the paymasters pocket as well.. very sad, but true.. war is good if it helps up get reelected seems to be the way they all think.. bizarre though how the american people are being hijacked in it all.


  5. Carroll says:

    I am almost rolling on the floor laughing my head off…the only laugh I have had in a while…imagining McCain on stage entertaining the neo’s with his Bomb,Bomb,Bomb.. bomb,bomb Iran song.


  6. Pissed Off American says:

    This should be required reading for every American…….
    Part one….
    Part two….
    I can’t seem to get the part two link to operate. If anyone can figure it out, please link it here.


  7. Sam Thornton says:

    Another data point indicating active pre-attack planning for the Iran Fiasco. This is a mirror of analogous meetings that occurred in the runnup to Iraq.
    Coupled with other multiplying indicators such as increased anti-Iran rhetoric from Bush and compatriots inside and outside of government, Persian Gulf naval maneuvers, rumors that troop strength in Iraq will be at least 200,000 before the end of the year, looks like a Surge II over the Iranian border has been green lighted.
    Now, if we can only reactivate Tommy Franks to screw it up as effectively as he screwed up the Iraq boondoggle, it will be another perfect storm. Actually, that’s not a bad name for the operation.


  8. Sandy says:

    That last was:
    Posted by Sandy at May 23, 2007 04:23 PM
    The day before, May 22, I posted this:
    “…IN THE MEANTIME……Ron Paul is looking better and better to me.
    In another discussion elsewhere — about going to War on IRAN next — one thing led to another and the
    Trial of Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman, Larry Franklin’s friends, came up. IT BEGINS JUNE 4.
    Judging from some things that are going on in the world right now, it seems to me to be a good time for ….eh….distractions.
    Here’s a sampling of what’s up with that:
    … just a few of the eye-opening paragraph):
    A recently unsealed defense memorandum details a Feb. 16, 2005 colloquy between Rosen’s lawyer, Abbe Lowell, and Nathan Lewin, AIPAC’s legal counsel, in which the latter reveals that PAUL McNULTY (emphasis mine)—then the U.S. attorney for the eastern district of Virginia and chief prosecutor in the case—“would like to end it with minimal damage to AIPAC.” Lewin told Lowell, “He is fighting with the FBI to limit the investigation to Steve Rosen and Keith Weissman and to avoid expanding it.” This is hardly the behavior one would expect of contemporary anti-Dreyfusards in the Justice Department plotting to scapegoat AIPAC and the Jews.
    Efforts to embarrass the administration go beyond accusing DOJ and extend to prominent figures such as Condoleezza RICE, who is accused by Abbe Lowell of leaking national defense information to AIPAC as Franklin did. Gen. Anthony Zinni is being targeted in a similar manner. Both have been subpoenaed, along with David Satterfield, deputy chief of the U.S. mission to Iraq, and William Burns, U.S. ambassador to Russia, to testify. If Rosen and Weissman are going down, the Israel lobby seems to be saying, then so are a lot of prominent people—some of whom, like Zinni, just happen to be their enemies.
    This isn’t greymail, it’s blackmail. It was Zinni, after all, who said of the Israel lobby and the neoconservatives: “I think it’s the worst-kept secret in Washington. Everybody—everybody I talk to in Washington—has known and fully knows what their agenda was [during the run up to the Iraq War] and what they were trying to do.”
    The intrigue thickened last October as word leaked that a proposed deal was dangled in front of Rep. Jane Harman: AIPAC would back her to become head of the House Intelligence Committee if she would urge the government to treat Rosen, Weissman—and AIPAC itself—with kid gloves.
    The Forward reported, “Several congressional sources confirmed that major donors to the Democratic Party have been lobbying Pelosi on behalf of Harman’s nomination to head the intelligence committee and that these attempts were not welcomed by the House Democratic leader.” Time named Haim Saban, the billionaire Hollywood producer and major AIPAC moneybags, as one of the supplicants. Pelosi didn’t fall for it, and Harman was rebuffed. Perhaps this was in the background when the speaker was booed as she addressed the subsequent AIPAC national conference, although
    Pelosi got back in the Israel lobby’s good graces
    after she stripped a provision from the military appropriations bill
    that would have required the president to go to Congress for
    permission to attack Iran.
    Posted by Sandy at May 22, 2007 04:14 PM
    But, then, who listens to ME?


  9. Sandy says:

    This is what I posted elsewhere here…..earlier. (in the Ron Paul item)
    ….While Fallon’s message may have affected the deployment of another Navy carrier, it didn’t stop Vice President Cheney from finding other ways to issue symbolic acts of provocation against Iran.
    Last week, Cheney stood aboard one of the two carriers currently in the Gulf and warned Iran that the U.S. was prepared to use its naval power to keep Tehran from disrupting off oil routes or “gaining nuclear weapons and dominating this region.”
    That was May 16.
    Today, May 23:
    DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — “The U.S. Navy staged its latest show of military force off the Iranian coastline on Wednesday, sending two aircraft carriers and landing ships packed with 17,000 U.S. Marines and sailors to carry out unannounced exercises in the Persian Gulf.
    The carrier strike groups led by the USS John C. Stennis and USS Nimitz were joined by the amphibious assault ship USS Bonhomme Richard and its own strike group, which includes landing ships carrying members of the 13th Marine Expeditionary Unit.”
    Remembering back to
    Aug. 4, 1964.
    ……the front page of the New York Times reported: “President Johnson has ordered retaliatory action against gunboats and ‘certain supporting facilities in North Vietnam’ after renewed attacks against American destroyers in the GULF OF TONKIN.”
    But there was no “second attack” by North Vietnam — no “renewed attacks against American destroyers.” By reporting official claims as absolute truths, American journalism opened the floodgates for the bloody Vietnam War.
    A pattern took hold: continuous government lies passed on by pliant mass media…leading to over 50,000 American deaths and millions of Vietnamese casualties.
    The official story was that North Vietnamese torpedo boats launched an “unprovoked attack” against a U.S. destroyer on “routine patrol” in the Tonkin Gulf on Aug. 2 — and that North Vietnamese PT boats followed up with a “deliberate attack” on a pair of U.S. ships two days later.
    The truth was very different.
    Rather than being on a routine patrol Aug. 2, the U.S. destroyer Maddox was actually engaged in aggressive intelligence-gathering maneuvers — in sync with coordinated attacks on North Vietnam by the South Vietnamese navy and the Laotian air force.
    “The day before, two attacks on North Vietnam…had taken place,” writes scholar Daniel C. Hallin. Those assaults were “part of a campaign of increasing military pressure on the North that the United States had been pursuing since early 1964.”
    On the night of Aug. 4, the Pentagon proclaimed that a second attack by North Vietnamese PT boats had occurred earlier that day in the Tonkin Gulf — a report cited by President Johnson as he went on national TV that evening to announce a momentous escalation in the war: air strikes against North Vietnam.
    But Johnson ordered U.S. bombers to “retaliate” for a North Vietnamese torpedo ATTACK THAT NEVER HAPPENED….”
    Do Bush or Cheney ever read history?
    Chimp was seen once carrying around a book, “The History of Salt”


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