Greetings from the Republican National Convention

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Steve Clemons Joe Biden Invescco TWN - small.jpg
(photo credit: James Dyett)
Actually, this picture is of me in a sky box at Invesco Stadium listening to Democratic Vice President candidate Joe Biden on August 28th in Denver.
But I’ve arrived in St. Paul and am on my way to see about my credentials now.
More soon.
— Steve Clemons

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160 comments on “Greetings from the Republican National Convention

  1. arthurdecco says:

    Tahoe Editor,
    you have become incomprehensible.
    Seek professional help.

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  2. Tahoe Editor says:

    Clearly you move among the circles who said in 2004, “How did George Bush win?! I don’t know anyone who voted for him!”
    Indeed, The Great Sort.
    Like the U.K. rags that asked, “How can X million Americans be so stupid?” the only thing you contribute is volume without understanding or substance.

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  3. arthurdecco says:

    Don Bacon said: “…Miriam…Do a hundred million Americans scare you? Half the adult US population believes the Bible is true, and a comparable number are pro-life and pro-gun.”
    There are 300,000,000 Americans, Don, so your math is off. But if, as you claim, even a hundred million Americans really believe the bible is true then what that suggests to me is that your American educational system is seriously defective AND that a large portion of your fellow citizens are either delusional or stupid as sticks or ALL of the above. And that scares the crap out of me, even if it doesn’t scare Miriam.
    Because it suggests to me that their ability to reason clearly, to choose the candidate and party best able to do some good for them and their country is threatened by their own proudly ignorant, hubristic delusions.
    And now, for our Comedy Moment:
    Tahoe Editor said: “WigWag you fvcking ROCK”
    Now there’s an endorsement you can be proud of, WigWag. Birds of a feather and all that. (wink)

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  4. PissedOffAmerican says:

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/
    Palin As Reformer? Not Quite…
    By Kate Klonick and Zachary Roth – September 3, 2008, 8:53PM
    As we get ready for the big Sarah Palin speech tonight, it’s worth taking a moment to step back from the charges of negligent vetting and media sexism, to focus on what really should be the heart of the issue.
    The McCain campaign has presented Palin as a squeaky-clean reformer, who took on corruption in Alaska, and will help to bring a new brand of politics to Washington. But a flurry of reports over the last few days significantly undercut that image.
    To be sure, Palin’s claims to be a reformer aren’t toally without merit. Before becoming governor, she went after the state GOP chair, Randy Ruedrich, for doing work for the party on public time and working closely with a company he was supposed to be regulating. She also filed a formal complaint against Attorney General Gregg Renkes for having investments in an energy company that stood to benefit from a state trade deal. Both Ruedrich and Renkes ultimately resigned their posts, and Ruedrich paid a $12,000 fine.
    But let’s look at the other side of the ledger. Both as mayor of Wasilla and as governor, Palin has aggressively sought federal earmarks, and has a friendlier relationship with indicted GOP senator Ted Stevens than one would expect for a good-government crusader. She has fired employees who she sees as disloyal. And, in a move reminiscent of the Bush-Cheney White House, she has stonewalled legitimate efforts by the legislature to uncover the truth in the Trooper-Gate affair.
    Here’s a sampling of reports that complicate Palin’s reformist credentials:
    Last year, Palin requested more earmarks per person than any other state — including some that were criticized by McCain himself.
    Even as mayor of Wasilla, Palin’s pursuit of earmarks was aggressive. She oversaw the hiring of a Washington lobbyist — who, as we reported yesterday, had ties to Jack Abramoff — to go after federal pork.
    And though Palin touted her opposition to the “Bridge to Nowhere” just last week in her debut speech, she initially supported the project during her run for governor. It was only after the bridge became notorious as an example of pork barrel spending that she changed her position.
    In her run for governor, Palin was endorsed by now-indicted Sen. Ted Stevens. Video of the endorsement has been removed from her government website, but the two appeared together just two months ago at a press conference on energy. The friendly relationship between the embattled senator, who is accused of lying about gifts he recieved from an oil contractor, and the supposedly maverick governor is at odds with Palin’s claim to dismantling the “old boys club” of Alaska government.
    As Wasilla mayor, Palin reportedly fired the police chief and attempted to fire the librarian, because she did not feel that she had their “full support in [her] efforts to govern the city of Wasilla.” Former city officials allege that the attempts to remove the librarian were a result of her her refusal to censor books at Palin’s request.
    Palin has been at the center of the Trooper-Gate scandal that alleges misuse of her gubernatorial power. The affair erupted in July when Palin fired the Public Safety Commissioner Walt Monegan. Monegan later claimed his firing was a result of his refusal to fire Palin’s former brother-in-law and trooper Mike Wooten. Palin denied that she, her husband or her staff ever pressured Monegan, a statement she later had to retract when recorded phone calls revealed one of her aides, Frank Bailey, had called a troopers office pushing for Wooten’s removal.
    Tonight, the Washington Post published emails from Palin to Monegan in which she appeared to complain that Wooten was still employed, apparently undercutting her claim that she discussed Wooten with Monegan only in the context of the security of her family.
    As a result of the Trooper-Gate allegations, an independent investigator has been appointed by the state legislature. In recent days, Palin has appeared to stonewall the probe. Her lawyer argued in a complaint filed last night that she wold not be made available for her deposition unless the probe were handed over to the state personnel board, whose members are appointed by the governor. Bailey, who had been suspended by Palin with pay for his actions, today backed out of his deposition.
    In a separate civil suit related to Wooten, Palin has claimed executive privilege on over a thousand emails between her and her staff, including Bailey.

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  5. Tahoe Editor says:

    TOM BROKAW: The “troopergate” business in Alaska really is at best a speed bump if it’s even that. It’s really a demonstration of people are going around and turning over every rock. But unless there’s a WHOLE LOT MORE, then I don’t think it’s gonna have much effect on Sarah Palin.
    CHUCK TODD: Think petty Little Rock politics. Remember all those little Little Rock politics that we thought would trip up Bill Clinton? That’s what this has a feel of.”
    TOM BROKAW: “It’s got to have a lot more to rise to the threshold of real importance. Keith, back to you.”

    Higher word count ain’t gonna do it — you need something NEW.

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  6. questions says:

    Check out WOW — from it’s over Grover on a more recent thread!! Now THAT’s a post!
    And thanks, as always, for the kind words!
    Someone somewhere noted how funny/sad it is to see relatively intelligent people struggling to defend Palin as EXPERIENCED and the BEST and so on when it’s painfully obvious that the limitations are real.

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  7. Sweetness says:

    Great posting, Questions.

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  8. questions says:

    From ABC via kos diary…..
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/3/145720/4870/950/584844
    If you’re like me, you’re getting tired of all Palin, all the time. But there’s more:
    Another Controversy for Sarah Palin, Former Police Chief Says He Was Fired for Challenging Palin’s Campaign Contributors
    When does it end? This has got to be the worst choice in modern American history. Worse than Dan Quayle. At what point does she just become so ridiculous that she is only fodder for late night TV, like Letterman or Leno?
    Details, if you can read yet more, after the fold.
    TomP’s diary :: ::
    After taking over as Mayor of the small town of Wasilla, Palin fired the longtime local police chief. The former police chief, Irl Stambaugh says he was fired because he stepped on the toes of Palin’s campaign contributors, including bar owners and the National Rifle Association.
    Stambaugh’s lawyer, William Jermain, says the chief tried to move up the closing hours of local bars from 5 a.m. to two a.m. after a spurt of drunk driving accidents and arrests.
    “His crackdown on that practice by the bars was not appreciated by her and that was one reason she terminated Irl,” said Jermain.
    In his 1997 lawsuit, Stambaugh also alleged that his stand on restricting concealed weapons upset the NRA
    questions writes:
    Now, of course the religious right will stand up and defend our RIGHTS — if we want to drink at 3 a.m, well, this is AMERICA (insert registered trademark)…..
    So we dems had better not criticize her majesty the goddess above and beyond all criticism, Sarah Palin.
    On the other hand, any members of MOTHERS Against Drunk Driving out there???????
    INTERRUPT THE MEME ’08

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  9. Paul Norheim says:

    IOKIYAR (questions)
    BLOKIYAA (but less ok if yo`re Achmedinejad)

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  10. questions says:

    Did ya know, did ya know, did ya know — ALASKA IS THE BIGGEST STATE IN THE UNION!!!!!!!!!
    And isn’t it beautiful how they recognized that amazing soldier who died a noble and brave death in a WAR OF CHOICE???
    The only choice the Republican ticket recognizes is a war of choice.
    INTERRUPT THE MEME ’08

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  11. pauline says:

    On President’s Big Convention Night, Mentions Of “Bush” Are Awfully Hard To Find
    By Greg Sargent – September 3, 2008, 10:52AM
    Yesterday was President Bush’s big night at the GOP convention, but you wouldn’t have known it if you were, you know, there.
    We just checked all the full texts of the speeches from last night’s festivities that are on the GOP convention’s official Web page. The word “Bush” appears exactly zero times. The word “president” doesn’t appear anywhere in connection with Bush.
    Oh, and one other funny thing: The GOP’s page of speeches, which included the orations of a bunch of unknowns, didn’t even bother including the speeches given by the president or Laura.
    see —
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/total_number_of_mentions_of_bu.php

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  12. Kathleen says:

    JohnH..Yesterday MSNBC reported that the NYT printed a correction… the chairmwoman of the Alaskan Independence Party was incorrect…Sarah Palin was never registered in their party… if Palin is married to an indigenous person, he may have registered…often tribes try to seceed…like the Hawaiians, and the Sioux…I don’t know in this case…it’s just a possible explaination…
    Driveby… that’s because of our troll… every thread degenerates into a verbal pingpong match..

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  13. Driveby says:

    There is absolutely no difference between this thread and anything you could read at Little Green Footballs. The total lack of critical thinking skills is the same.. although the posters here might be slightly dumber.
    This is really eye-opening.

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  14. PissedOffAmerican says:

    So, this vindictive and vicious shrew Palin rats the guy out for filling a game tag. Where’s the good ‘ol gal hunter image in that action? Tags are filled all the time by people the tags weren’t pulled by. Yes, its illegal, but its a common practice, and anyone that has hunted any amount of time has done it. If Palin says she or her hubby haven’t done it, they’re probably liars.
    Gee, where’d that jackass Tahoe go? Isn’t it time for his twelve hour shift to begin?

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  15. questions says:

    IOKIYAR

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  16. Paul Norheim says:

    In my opinion, the religious aspect of Sarah Palins background
    is the most interesting, and most disturbing. Is this the woman
    who may inherit the nuclear code?
    ———————————————–
    Palin’s Church May Have Shaped Controversial Worldview
    September 2, 2008 12:17 PM
    Three months before she was thrust into the national political
    spotlight, Gov. Sarah Palin was asked to handle a much smaller
    task: addressing the graduating class of commission students at
    her one-time church, Wasilla Assembly of God.
    Her speech in June provides as much insight into her policy
    leanings as anything uncovered since she was asked to be John
    McCain’s running mate.
    Speaking before the Pentecostal church, Palin painted the
    current war in Iraq as a messianic affair in which the United
    States could act out the will of the Lord.
    “Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do
    what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our
    national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is
    from God,” she exhorted the congregants. “That’s what we have
    to make sure that we’re praying for, that there is a plan and that
    that plan is God’s plan.”
    Religion, however, was not strictly a thread in Palin’s foreign
    policy. It was part of her energy proposals as well. Just prior to
    discussing Iraq, Alaska’s governor asked the audience to pray
    for another matter — a $30 billion national gas pipeline project
    that she wanted built in the state. “I think God’s will has to be
    done in unifying people and companies to get that gas line
    built, so pray for that,” she said.
    Video of Kalnins and Palin from June 8, 2008 (via wasillaag.net):
    Palin’s address, much of which was spent reflecting on the work
    of the church in which she grew up and was baptized,
    underscores the notion that her world view is deeply impacted
    by religion. In turn, her remarks raise important questions:
    mainly, what is Palin’s faith and how exactly has it influenced
    her policies?
    A review of recorded sermons by Ed Kalnins, the senior pastor
    of Wasilla Assembly of God since 1999, offers a provocative
    and, for some, eyebrow-raising sketch of Palin’s longtime
    spiritual home.
    The church runs a number of ministries providing help to poor
    neighborhoods, care for children in need, and general
    community services. But Pastor Kalnins has also preached that
    critics of President Bush will be banished to hell; questioned
    whether people who voted for Sen. John Kerry in 2004 would be
    accepted to heaven; charged that the 9/11 terrorist attacks and
    war in Iraq were part of a war “contending for your faith;” and
    said that Jesus “operated from that position of war mode.”
    It is impossible to determine how much Wasilla Assembly of
    God has shaped Palin’s thinking. She was baptized there at the
    age of 12 and attended the church for most of her adult life.
    When Palin was inaugurated as governor, the founding pastor of
    the church delivered the invocation. In 2002, Palin moved her
    family to a nondenominational church, but she continues to
    worship at a related Assembly of God church in Juneau.
    Moreover, she “has maintained a friendship with Wasilla
    Assembly of God and has attended various conferences and
    special meetings here,” Kalnins’ office said in a statement. “As
    for her personal beliefs,” the statement added, “Governor Palin
    is well able to speak for herself on those issues.”
    Clearly, however, Palin views the church as the source of an
    important, if sometimes politically explosive, message. “Having
    grown up here, and having little kids grow up here also, this is
    such a special, special place,” she told the congregation in June.
    “What comes from this church I think has great destiny.”
    And if the political storm over Barack Obama’s former pastor
    Jeremiah Wright is any indication, Palin may face some political
    fallout over the more controversial teachings of Wasilla
    Assembly of God.
    If the church had a political alignment, it would almost surely be
    conservative. In his sermons, Kalnins did not hide his affections
    for certain national politicians.
    During the 2004 election season, he praised President Bush’s
    performance during a debate with Sen. John Kerry, then offered
    a not-so-subtle message about his personal candidate
    preferences. “I’m not going tell you who to vote for, but if you
    vote for this particular person, I question your salvation. I’m
    sorry.” Kalnins added: “If every Christian will vote righteously, it
    would be a landslide every time.”
    Months after hinting at possible damnation for Kerry
    supporters, Kalnins bristled at the treatment President Bush was
    receiving over the federal government’s handling of Hurricane
    Katrina. “I hate criticisms towards the President,” he said,
    “because it’s like criticisms towards the pastor — it’s almost
    like, it’s not going to get you anywhere, you know, except for
    hell. That’s what it’ll get you.”
    Much of his support for the current administration has come in
    the realm of foreign affairs. Kalnins has preached that the 9/11
    attacks and the invasion of Iraq were part of a “world war” over
    the Christian faith, one in which Jesus Christ had called upon
    believers to be willing to sacrifice their lives.
    What you see in a terrorist — that’s called the invisible enemy.
    There has always been an invisible enemy. What you see in Iraq,
    basically, is a manifestation of what’s going on in this unseen
    world called the spirit world. … We need to think like Jesus
    thinks. We are in a time and a season of war, and we need to
    think like that. We need to develop that instinct. We need to
    develop as believers the instinct that we are at war, and that war
    is contending for your faith. … Jesus called us to die. You’re
    worried about getting hurt? He’s called us to die. Listen, you
    know we can’t even follow him unless you are willing to give up
    your life. … I believe that Jesus himself operated from that
    position of war mode. Everyone say “war mode.” Now you say,
    wait a minute Ed, he’s like the good shepherd, he’s loving all the
    time and he’s kind all the time. Oh yes he is — but I also
    believe that he had a part of his thoughts that knew that he was
    in a war.
    As for his former congregant and current vice presidential
    candidate, Kalnins has asserted that Palin’s election as governor
    was the result of a “prophetic call” by another pastor at the
    church who prayed for her victory. “[He made] a prophetic
    declaration and then unfolds the kingdom of God, you know.”
    Even Palin expressed surprise at that pastor’s advocacy for her
    candidacy. “He was praying over me,” she said in June. “He’s
    praying, ‘Lord make a way, Lord make a way…’ And I’m
    thinking, this guy’s really bold, he doesn’t even know what I’m
    gonna do, he doesn’t know what my plans are, and he’s praying
    not, ‘Oh Lord, if it be your will may she become governor,’ or
    whatever. No, he just prayed for it. He said, ‘Lord, make a way,
    and let her do this next step.’ And that’s exactly what happened.
    So, again, very very powerful coming from this church.”
    In his sermons, Pastor Kalnins has also expressed beliefs that,
    while not directly political, lie outside of mainstream Christian
    thought.
    He preaches repeatedly about the “end times” or “last days,” an
    apocalyptic prophesy held by a small but vocal group of
    Christian leaders. During his appearance with Palin in June, he
    declared, “I believe Alaska is one of the refuge states in the last
    days, and hundreds of thousands of people are going to come
    to the state to seek refuge and the church has to be ready to
    minister to them.”
    He also claims to have received direct “words of knowledge”
    from God, providing him information about past events in other
    people’s lives. During one sermon, he described being paired
    with a complete stranger during a golf outing. “I said, I’m a
    minister from Alaska and I want you to know that your wife left
    you — you know that your wife left you and that the Lord is
    gonna defend you in a very short time, and it wasn’t your fault.
    And the man drops his clubs, he literally was about to tee off
    and he dropped his clubs, and he says, ‘Who the blank are you?’
    And I says, ‘well, I’m a minister.’ He says, ‘how do you know
    about my life? What do you know?’ And I started giving him
    more of the word of knowledge to his life and he was freaked
    out.”
    Kalnins has, of course, preached on a bevy of topics ranging
    from humility to “overcoming bitterness.” But the more
    controversial remarks reported above were not out of the norm,
    appearing in numerous sermons spanning the four years of
    available recordings.
    As for Palin, her views on these topics is more opaque. In the
    wake of the controversy over Jeremiah Wright, a debate has
    raged about whether political figures should be held responsible
    for the comments of their religious guiders. Clearly, however,
    Kalnins, like many national conservative religious leaders, sees
    Alaska’s governor as one of his own. “Gov. Sarah Palin is the real
    deal,” he told his church this past summer. “You know, some
    people put on a show…but she’s the real deal.”
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/09/02/palins-church-
    may-have-sh_n_123205.html

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  17. PissedOffAmerican says:

    And heres the “old friend” of Palin’s that she replaced Monegan with. Incidently, Kopp was given a $10,000 severence “stipend” by Palin, despite his lies about his prior job discipline (below), and despite serving only two weeks in his new position. Nice, eh? He lies, resigns in disgrace, and thanks to Palin, scores a sweet ten grand. Who knew sexual harrassment and lying your ass off could be such an enriching experience?
    Note too, where I placed the asterix on Palin’s statement. Can this be called anything other than a lie? And directly below the asterix, we see that apparently Kopp was lying his ass off too.
    Just what we need, eh? Another lyin’ sack of shit politician that thinks cronyism is dandy, even if the crony don’t fit the bill, is corrupt, or likes to play touchy feely with his subordinates.
    Doesn’t this whole sordid mess kinda blow Popcahontas Palin, and this dissembling jackass Tahoe’s story out of the water?
    Do we really want this gal in the White House?
    http://www.ktuu.com/global/story.asp?s=8712164
    Complainant details Kopp’s harassing behavior
    Kopp’s accuser speaks to Channel 2 News
    At the time the complaint was filed Kopp served both as police chief and acting city manager in Kenai. (KTUU-TV)
    Gov. Sarah Palin says she was aware of the complaint against Kopp when she appointed him to his new position. (KTUU-TV)
    A letter from the Kenai city attorney says after an investigation Kopp was removed from his supervisory duties of the complainant. (KTUU-TV)
    by Jason Moore
    Monday, July 21, 2008
    ANCHORAGE, Alaska — New questions regarding Gov. Sarah Palin’s choice for public safety commissioner have surfaced.
    The allegations come as lawmakers consider appointing an independent investigator to look into the chain of events that led to former Commissioner Walt Monegan’s termination.
    More details have arisen from the sexual harassment claim made against Chuck Kopp in 2005 while he served as Kenai’s police chief.
    When Kopp appeared for the first time in his new role he was asked about the complaint.
    “There has never been a sexual harassment allegation that resulted in a lawsuit or a settlement by the city of Kenai and there’s nothing in my record that gives me a black eye,” he said last Tuesday.
    The allegations come from an employee of the Kenai Police Department. At the time the complaint was filed Kopp served both as police chief and acting city manager in Kenai.
    The woman who levied the complaint spoke with Channel 2 News Monday. Her identity is being withheld.
    “He started off just by asking for hugs from time to time, saying, ‘Do I get my hug today? Do I get my hug today?’ and it seemed odd but I complied,” she said.
    The woman claims after numerous hugs Kopp then kissed her. She says there was a witness to the incident.
    “We were in his office and he asked if he could get his hug and so I kind of — by this time I had grown very uncomfortable with the hugs,” she said. “I leaned in for a very light hug and pulled away — and he pulled me back to him and kissed me on the right cheek just as another officer was walking into the room bringing him a cup of coffee.”
    Before appointing him, Palin said she was aware of the prior complaint against Kopp.
    She spoke about it Friday.
    (**)”Looking at the investigation that was undertaken in dealing with that issue with Commissioner Kopp we have been shown that he was cleared of the allegations,” she said.
    Further, during his press conference, Kopp said no job action was taken against him.
    “I left in their good graces and there’s no job action ever taken against me,” he said. “If there was I would never be here today.”
    But a letter from the Kenai city attorney sent in October 2005 to the complainant reveals otherwise.
    The letter says, in part, “We immediately launched an investigation into the behavior and conduct in question … As a result of our investigation, Chuck Kopp was removed immediately from his supervisory role relating to your position.”
    Kopp kept his job in Kenai and has recently received the ultimate promotion despite the allegations. He now oversees law enforcement across the entire state.

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  18. PissedOffAmerican says:

    http://www.andrewhalcro.com/why_walt_monegan_got_fired
    Why Walt Monegan got fired: Palin’s abuse of power
    Last Friday, Commissioner of Public Safety Walt Monegan went into a meeting with Governor Sarah Palin’s acting chief of staff thinking he was going to be discussing security for the governor’s picnic. He left the meeting without a job.
    The abrupt firing of Walt Monegan was a shock not only to him but all of the men and women of the Department of Public Safety. The way Monegan was fired raises serious questions about the governor’s true motives.
    So why was Walt Monegan fired out of the blue? Why would Governor Palin send a surrogate to fire her Public Safety Commissioner and then not have a decent explanation for the public? And why would Monegan’s replacement be telling people three days before Monegan got fired, that he was going to become the new Commissioner of Public Safety?
    Walt Monegan got fired for all of the wrong reasons. Walt Monegan got fired because he had the audacity to tell Governor Palin no, when apparently nobody is allowed to say no to Governor Palin.
    Monegan said no, he couldn’t cut his budget because his State Troopers were already being stretched to the limit and public safety suffering. He said no, he couldn’t cut his budget because fuel costs for planes, boats and patrol vehicles soaring, while crime in rural Alaska was putting more demands on the Troopers transportation system.
    But more alarming than any budget battle, Monegan said no to firing a State Trooper who had divorced Governor Palin’s sister because the guy was being maliciously hounded by Palin’s family.
    And not just that; Monegan’s firing came after his Colonel had to reprimand the governor’s office for meddling in department personnel affairs.
    Monegan’s budget battles
    When Walt Monegan was appointed, he realized the deep problems at DPS including low morale, understaffed detachments and the lack of a funding commitment to a long term vision.
    He also recognized, that along with the strategic plan his department developed and introduced just months ago, there needed to be a commitment of resources to follow through on the public safety needs for Alaskans.
    “We want out employees to know that help is on the way; that we are planning to grow our staff to provide both the needed services for this vast state, and the appropriate training necessary to do it”, Monegan wrote in his 2008-17 Strategic Plan.
    But the Palin administration wanted Monegan to go in another direction. They wanted him to cut corners on a budget that had already fallen behind over the last decade. Under Former Governor Murkwoski there was significant investment made to try and catch up with growing costs but Palin’s budgets have again started to starve the agency.
    To make matters worse, the change to the state’s retirement benefit program adopted by the legislature in 2004 has had a negative effect on the departments ability to recruit new Troopers.
    Meanwhile, since Governor Palin appointed Walt Monegan in 2007, she has spent less than one hour in face to face discussions with him about the critical public safety issues in Alaska.
    And her fy09 budget for public safety clearly shows the results of her lack of understanding about the challenges that DPS faces.
    According to the Legislative Finance Agency, the public safety budget in fy09 was cut by .06% from what the governor originally proposed while the governor’s own budget increased 22.6% over what she originally proposed.
    The problem for Palin was that Monegan was vocal about his concerns about the growing problems in rural Alaska due to alcohol and drug abuse and recognized that the state needed to invest more in protecting the public.
    A few months ago, Monegan warned that Troopers were stretched so thin with no funding support coming from the administration that they might not be able to respond to all calls and even suggested the department prepare a statement for when those situations occurred
    Monegan and his department were getting too far out in front of Palin, acting in ways that were independent and contrary to the governor’s wishes. Palin needed to replace Monegan with someone who would be seen but not heard while doing the governor’s bidding.
    That’s why Palin replaced Monegan with Chuck Kopp from Kenai, an old Palin family acquaintance who is more likely to follow the governor’s line and never say no.
    Monegan, ever the good cop, even advocated for a safer Alaska after he was relieved of his duties. In an interview with KTUU on Sunday, two days after he was unceremoniously fired by one of Palin’s surrogates, he stated that he informed the administration of a few things that should not be ignored, including the current economic situation in Alaska’s rural communities, where he believes poor fishing returns could potentially cause social unrest.
    “Thefts increase. Domestic violence increases. When you apply a lot of stress on a situation, money and fuel oil are an absolute hope at some point. And unless we band together as a government to address it head on it could be very bad,” Monegan said.
    Walt Monegan was fired because he fought too hard. Governor Palin fired Monegan because she understood too little and wanted a puppet as commissioner.
    But there was another reason that contributed to Monegan’s ouster; a more alarming reason.
    Trooper Mike Wooten: Being hunted by the governor
    In the fall of 2004, Trooper Mike Wooten had decided the differences between he and his wife Molly of four years had grown to the point of being irreconcilable. His wife just happened to be the younger sister of Sarah Palin.
    The beginning of the divorce proceedings set off a chain of bizarre and chilling events that has continued through today. During that time it has resulted in the governor and her family trying to ruin the career of an eight year Alaska State Trooper that has served his state on the SERT Team, Motor Unit and DUI Team.
    Beginning in spring of 2005 and for the next ten months, over 25 formal complaints were filed by Palin and Heath family members against Trooper Mike Wooten. From drinking while driving his patrol car to making threats to shooting a moose without a permit.
    According to Trooper records, Sarah Palin said that in January and February of 2005, Wooten was drinking while driving. After investigating the complaint, the investigator found that Palin never actually saw what she reported.
    In another complaint, Sarah’s father said that Wooten made threatening remarks. Again, the investigator found there was no probable way that it could have happened.
    In all cases except one, the charges were ruled unfounded after an internal investigation. And the one charge that was valid, Wooten immediately admitted to.
    In 2003, Wooten, his wife and a friend were moose hunting. Upon spotting a moose, Wooten instructed his wife to shoot the moose since she had the permit, she refused so Wooten did.
    After carting the moose back to town, Sarah’s father actually butchered it in his garage, and Wooten shared the meat with both Sarah and Todd Palin as well as her parents. Two years later, during the divorce battle, the family filed a complaint alleging that Wooten had taken that moose illegally. At least they waited until they finished the meat to file the complaint against Wooten.
    But it didn’t stop there. Threatening phone calls, private detectives that were hired to follow Wooten, notes left on windshields, Todd Palin taking pictures then submitting them to Wooten’s supervisor, all designed to intimidate Wooten into backing off from demanding equal child custody rights.
    But every time they filed a spurious complaint, the Troopers would bring in an Administrative Investigator who after seeing more than two dozen of these ridiculous and time consuming complaints stated that in all his years he had never seen such a shotgun pattern against one officer.
    Meanwhile in court, Wooten prevailed at every turn as Judge Suddock quickly realized there was a concerted effort to damage Wooten. Finally the judge warned that if any of their actions caused Wooten to lose his job or pay in anyway, Molly and her family would be held liable.
    After the divorce was final in late 2005 things settled down, until last fall.
    At the request of the court, Wooten and his ex-wife were instructed to return to re-visit the custody schedule. Once the paper work started in April of 2008, the complaints and the intimidation started all over again.
    But now Wooten wasn’t dealing with just Sarah Palin, he was dealing with Governor Sarah Palin.
    On April 23, 2008 in written testimony to the court, Palin denied ever making claims against Wooten, when in fact she had emailed a State Trooper Colonel in April of 2005 accusing Wooten of driving drunk.
    Twice in the last few months complaints were filed by the governor’s office accusing Wooten of improperly using his patrol car. Both times he was visiting his kids at school and both times he had permission from his sargent. The last complaint came in May after Todd Palin saw Wooten pulling out of the school parking lot and six days later the complaint landed on Wooten’s supervisor’s desk.
    During the legislative session this past spring, Palin reportedly told Commissioner Monegan to fire Wooten because he was giving Troopers a bad name. However Monegan said he would do no such thing.
    A short time afterwards, it was discovered that confidential material in Wooten’s Administrative Investigation file had been released to his ex-wife and her attorney. This drew outrage from the Public Safety Union as well as the Commissioner. AI files are strictly confidential and can only be released with the written signature of the Trooper, but yet no one could explain how the detailed confidential information was released.
    Reportedly, both Commissioner Monegan and Colonel Audie Halloway warned that if they found out the file was leaked by the governor’s office, they would pursue charges.
    Unfortunately, Commissioner Walt Monegan has been fired and word on the street is Colonel Audie Halloway’s days are numbered as the new commissioner brings in those who won’t object when the governor uses the Troopers as her own private security force.
    The most tragic part of this whole story is Trooper Mike Wooten. For the last four years his children have endured inexcusable stress at the hands of the governor and her family. The same governor who has been on television telling Alaskans how important it is to love your kids and spend time with them. Truth be told, Governor Palin should watch her own television commercial.
    For eight years, Trooper Mike Wooten has served the people of the State of Alaska by putting his life on the line to protect them from harm. Today the question is; who will protect Wooten from the blatant abuse of power now that the governor has free hands.
    Commissioner Walt Monegan was fired because he fought for his employees, he fought for a safer Alaska and he didn’t care if he had to fight Governor Palin to do it.
    In the mean time, God help Trooper Mike Wooten.

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  19. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Tahoe, its time you substantiated your your horseshit.
    Please show us your sources that show irrefutable proof that the state trooper was a “wife beater”, or that anything the trooper did warranted firing. Just because you, an internet troll and slimey lyin’ GOP mouthpiece say something is so, doesn’t mean theres any truth to it. In fact, if it rolls off your keyboard, its probably horseshit.
    So go ahead, Tahoe, put your money where your oily dissembling mouth is. Show us credible information that the safety conmmissioner that Palin fired had credible and legal cause to fire the state trooper, or that the state trooper has in fact been proven to be a “wife beater”.
    Truth is, you are nothing more than a mouth, drooling out Hannity crap and Limbaughism’s 12 to 15 hours a day.
    Even the judge that presided over the divorce proceedings was flabbergasted at the vindictiveness of the attack on the trooper. Now would this judge have been swo sympathetic to a “wife beater”? Doubtful.
    http://jonathan–singer.mydd.com/story/2008/9/2/02019/17796
    But hey, Tahoe, prove me wrong. Lets see whatcha got, jackass.

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  20. PissedOffAmerican says:

    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/
    Palin Dragging Feet on Probe
    By Zachary Roth – September 2, 2008, 3:57PM
    Since the announcement in late July that a bipartisan committee of the Alaska Legislature has hired an independent investigator to look into Trooper-Gate, Sarah Palin’s office has consistently pledged to cooperate fully with the probe.
    At first, that cooperation appeared to be forthcoming. Legislators announced in mid-August that they didn’t expect to have to issue subpoenas, because the governor’s office was being so amenable.
    But it looks like all the happy talk is no longer operative. Judging from a report in The Anchorage Daily News today, Palin now appears to be pursuing a strategy of slow-rolling the probe.
    Her lawyer, Thomas Van Flein, argued in a letter to the independent investigator Steve Branchflower that the case should not be even be handled by the legislature, but rather by the state personnel board — whose members are appointed by the governor — since it is “statutorily mandated” to handle ethics complaints. He also asked for all witness statements, documents and other materials collected in the course of the investigation. Perhaps most ominously, Van Flein wrote that the investigation is “bad timing”, thanks to Palin’s selection as John McCain’s running mate, and that he couldn’t guarantee that she’d be free to sit down for her deposition this month.
    In a written response to Van Flein, Sen. Hollis French, the Democrat who heads the committee overseeing the probe, asserted that the legislature has its own power of investigation, and said that he has instructed Branchflower not to provide the requested documents. And French warned that if witnesses were not made available, he would issue subpoenas.
    Van Flein and French escalated their war of words in the ADN.
    “Our concern is that Hollis French turns into Ken Starr and uses public money to pursue a political vendetta rather than truly pursue an honest inquiry into an alleged ethics issue,” Van Flein told the paper.
    In response, French asked: “How does he explain the unanimous vote (to pursue the investigation) by the Republican-dominated Legislative Council?”
    Later, French added, “It’s too bad the governor has stooped to hiring a name-calling lawyer. That doesn’t seem very open and transparent does it?”
    The investigation is focused on Palin’s alleged involvement in an effort to fire a state trooper who had had been embroiled in a bitter dispute with Palin’s family. The state’s former public safety commissioner has asserted that he was fired for failing to fire the trooper.

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  21. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Amazing. This asshole Tahoe has the guts to actually fabricate a statement from me, then act as if he’s got some sort of high moral ground.
    Its like….
    “Yeah, I’m a liar. So what?”
    Smooth, Tahoe. We should consider you credible, why?

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  22. Tahoe Editor says:

    Thanks for the civility, Sweet.
    As rich pointed out, Sarah Palin isn’t the first Christian conservative woman to work outside the home, so “questions” isn’t exactly “always right as rain” with the stereotypes.
    My main purpose is to handicap the race as I prepare my final November “I Told You So” post.
    I’m not pushing my own view about Palin’s qualifications and appropriateness for the office PER SE; my assertion is that if Barack Obama is qualified and appropriate, then my high school AP European History teacher is qualified and appropriate, because no one has ever inspiredâ„¢ me more in my life.
    Oratory isn’t enough — it’s nowhere near enough.
    And peddling your campaign as experience? Really? I’m not of the mindset that you can furiously pad the resume AFTER you’ve announced your candidacy.
    Many moons ago my college roommate/Obama fan who lives in Chicago sent me an internal memo noting that Obama placed a phone call to Kenya during some political dust-up. There was a sincere feeling in the inner circle that this phone call was something worth touting as new foreign policy experience. Needless to say, it wasn’t a sell with me.

    Piss, on his knees before he goes to bed, praying for Bristol’s miscarriage. Disgusting.

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  23. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Note that this liar and troll Tahoe has been posting non-stop now for almost twelve hours.
    Think the blathering jackass has a life?
    Also, note that Wigwag posts during work hours, takes weekends off, and reappears in the same time periods as Sweetness does.
    Its all a coincidence.
    Uh huh.

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  24. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Tahoe is a liar.
    He quotes me….
    “Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy and is a horrible mother for getting on a plane while 36 months pregnant!” — these are not only lies, but absurdities being spewed from Piss’s bacteria-filled mouth.”
    Trouble is, I never said that. Never wrote it. Never posted it here.
    Hey Tahoe, explain to this forum why you think you can lie like this, and be considered credible.
    Tahoe, you’re a lyin’ sack of shit.

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  25. Sweetness says:

    Wig: I think it’s pretty clear that the press did go into those
    gates, but didn’t find much to sink their teeth into. In fact, many
    of them seemed manufactured to me. For example, the claim
    that he’s a crypto Muslim. I mean, that thing won’t die. Nor did
    the press ever take on the real question about that gate: What’s
    wrong with being a Muslim? THAT never got an airing.
    Tahoe: What I can’t figure out quite from your comments is
    whether your point has to do with the political ramifications of
    various actions, e.g., blowback from piling on Palin for her
    daughter’s pregnancy…or you are stating your OWN view about,
    say, Palin’s qualifications and appropriateness for the office.
    IOW, are you just handicapping the politics…or are you stating
    your own preference, say, for the McCain-Palin ticket over the
    Obama-Biden ticket. (I’m sorry I haven’t read all your
    comments, but I will say that you and Mr. Murder have much
    more time than I do, much more patience, or much better luck
    with the captcha.)
    Questions: Right as rain as always. I remember way back when
    Nancy Reagan said something that was objectionable to the
    Dems and some smirking surrogate (female) told the interview:
    They (the Dems) just can’t deal with a woman of substance. It’s
    good political judo, but it’s meaningless to anyone who cares
    about the underlying issues and isn’t out just to score points.
    OF COURSE, it’s a losing proposition to pile on Palin and her
    daughter. Plus it’s bad behavior. And Obama isn’t doing it.
    That, in itself, shows his seriousness about what he’s doing and
    his character.

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  26. Tahoe Editor says:

    Thanks for the reality dose, rich.
    Sadly, you do have to say it, as lefty sexism is on the loose in a big way right now.
    MSNDC is STILL pushing the idiocy that Palin is an offense pick targeted at Hillary’s voters. If a Hillary supporter finds something s/he likes in Palin, the GOP will take it, but they’re going after all the women who HATE Hillary and would do anything to stop her. They are legion.

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  27. rich says:

    questions,
    Gwen Ifill didn’t need to cope with anything. It’s standard Repub practice to switch gears and argue the exact opposte in no time flat. Impeachment is Exhibit A. Feeding them, though, is the mistake.
    You’re buying the propoganda, a bit. Conservative women have always worked, and many have “run things” at a family business and the like. They don’t want to give up those traditional, socially affirmed sources of power just to run off with radical feminists whose politics feels alien to their values and culture appears to rejecte everything they hold dear. Why would they?
    What you seem to forget is that conservative women have always worked outside the home too—regardless of their beliefs. Any feminist should recognize, instantly, that there’s no reason any conservative woman should have to give up what she loves or what she believes just to enter the workforce.
    Or to stay home. ‘Liberals’/ ‘feminists’ can’t make the mistake of attacking Sarah Palin for who she is. Disagree with her politics all you want. But my Mom came home in ’70 all outraged after one consciousness raising session, saying “What do they mean ‘just housework’! That’s valid work too!” Housewives can be liberals; and feminists should be able to recognize Sarah Palin’s accomplishments whether they like her or agree with her or not.
    Do I really have to say this?
    btw, wigwag claiming Sen. Obama hasn’t received any scrutiny is just such a hoot. aaa, good times.

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  28. Tahoe Editor says:

    “Iran is tiny. It doesn’t pose a serious threat.”
    “Iran is a grave threat.”
    [Crap, who is my audience now? And what am I supposed to be saying? Get Susan Rice on the phone pronto!]

    “Trade is ruining America.”
    “Psst Canada: NAFTA is the real deal, I’m just playin’ with the Ohioans who cling to their antipathy to people who aren’t like them.”
    [Crap, who is my audience now? And what am I supposed to be saying? Get Austan Goolsbee on the phone, on the double! I need answers!]
    “AND IF JOHN MCCAIN WANTS TO HAVE A DEBATE, I’M READY ANYWHERE, ANYTIME!!!”
    [subjecttopriorapproval/anytimemeansonlyJuly4orafterLaborday/additionalrestrictionsapply]

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  29. Paul Norheim says:

    “My critique of Obama has been vigorous and sustained but it has
    always been substantive.”
    Wrong, WigWag. Instead of attacking your real political opponent,
    you were occupied with vigorous and sustained ad hominem
    attacks on Obama, along with GOP PR machine and Rove-clone
    Tahoe. That was your mistake.
    And instead of attacking their real political opponent, a lot of
    democrats in the blogosphere have been busy attacking Palin ad
    hominem. That`s their mistake.
    Everybody seem to forget McCain, the semi senile gambler; his
    dangerously aggressive foreign policy views; his ignorance
    regarding the economy.

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  30. Tahoe Editor says:

    Why “distract” us by taking the focus off the candidates? What are you afraid of?

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  31. Paul Norheim says:

    “Obama has been public, alright! His PR machine is at the core of
    his values!”
    Hm… may I ask what`s at the core of your values, Tahoe Editor?

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  32. WigWag says:

    “Wait a moment, WigWag: you and Tahoe were bashing Obama FOR SIX MONTHS with the same intensity as you`ve seen against Palin during the last 4 days, remember?”
    I don’t think you’re right, Paul. I can only speak for myself. My critique of Obama has been vigorous and sustained but it has always been substantive. You, and many others at the Washington Note, have disagreed vigorously with the points that I made and that Tahoe Editor made, but that doesn’t mean that our critique lacked substance, it just meant that we disagreed.
    Posts and comments alluding to Sarah Palin’s pregnancy, when her water broke, her daughter’s sexual habits, etc. are not substantive, they are venal and they have been ubiquitous these last few days on this and other fauxgressive blogs.
    Whatever happens in this election, this is nothing to celebrate. And we should all be disturbed that the sexism of the left is as bad or worse than the sexism of the right.

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  33. Tahoe Editor says:

    Obama has been public, alright! His PR machine is at the core of his values! He’s been Ready To Sell Himself From Day 1! (Nevermind being a public servant and MAKING Changeâ„¢ — that comes when he fulfills his destiny as president.)
    Has Sarah Palin been hiding in the Alaska Statehouse, hoping the “Meet The Press” crowd won’t find out she’s governor? No. She’s been too busy governing and making Changeâ„¢.
    Here’s Clive Cook:
    Let me mention in passing the bid that Campbell Brown is making to supplant Lou Dobbs as the most objectionable broadcast bloviator, thereby securing the top two slots for CNN’s “best political team on television”. On Sunday I watched amazed as her supposed interview of a McCain spokesman on the Palin pick degenerated into a laughing, contemptuous harangue. Her evident disgust at the choice was not to be appeased. Then on Monday she demanded of another McCain surrogate to know whether Palin could be a good mother since she had knowingly thrust her daughter into the spotlight. But who, for heaven’s sake, is directing that spotlight? This is like the mugger who tells his victim he regrets what’s happening, “but why were you so stupid as to walk up this dark alley?” Others might be entitled to make that point, but it is nauseating to hear it from the regretful self-righteous mugger herself.

    rich is right. Thank Jonathan Alter for opening the door for Wilson & Fallon:
    “Many voters will wonder whether Palin should undertake the rigors of the vice presidency (and perhaps the presidency) while caring for a disabled infant.”
    He’s not spouting off on his own personal blog — this is NEWSWEEK! How many editors read that and said, “Yeah, that’s cool. You can get her there”?
    And now this crap will be sitting on coffee tables and in doctors’ offices until the election.
    If you don’t see sexism, you either don’t know what sexism is or you think it’s a good thing to use when it suits your purposes.

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  34. questions says:

    Rich, here’s the problem that Ifill couldn’t cope with. The Christian right is long associated with the whole ideology of “stay at home” momming. Anti-work for women, pro MAN IS HEAD OF HOUSE stuff. So there’s this conservative ideology lurking around in the background. When women are successful outside the home, there is a Christian noise machine that bashes it. Barefoot and pregnant, opposed to all or most forms of birth control, opposed to abortion, opposed to teen sex, opposed to decent scientific education and evidence based public policy (read: pro abstinence only).
    THEN, a woman comes along, conservative, Christian, 5 kids, professionally successful, vp nominee….
    How does she do it? By not at all sticking to what are put out as conservative Christian principles. She works outside the home, has dad, nannies, grandparents, neighbors…all for 5 kids, including one who will have serious developmental issues.
    So the dems say, hey, if she’s so very conservative, how come she’s not staying home? I’m not conservative, and I worked part time to avoid the guilt, how come Sarah Palin gets a pass — the dems are asking. And she doesn’t even feel guilty. And she’s the Christian.
    The repubs SCREAM SEXISM SEXISM SEXISM
    Now let’s reverse. Obama picks Palin’s dem clone. The repubs pick a WHITE GUY. What do the Repubs SCREAM??? WHY ISN’T SHE HOME WITH THE BABIES?????? We’re conservative Christians and we believe a mom should be home with her babies.
    So this is the problem with what we could call the ELASTICITY of conservative Christian belief in the political realm. It will ALWAYS forgive Republicans. It will NEVER forgive dems.
    I think it’s the dictionary definition of hypocrisy.
    INTERRUPT THE MEME ’08

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  35. Paul Norheim says:

    “The fact that new media sources like the Washington Note appear
    to be as bad as old media sources like the New York Times or
    Cable News is not something that any of us should be
    celebrating.”
    Wait a moment, WigWag: you and Tahoe were bashing Obama
    FOR SIX MONTHS with the same intensity as you`ve seen against
    Palin during the last 4 days, remember?
    No, you were not sexists, or racists, but except for that, you used
    every trick in the book, and then some more. For six bloody
    months, day out, day in!

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  36. WigWag says:

    “Preacher gate, Eurogate, Rezkogate, public fundinggate, Michellegate, Michelle’s thesisgate, Muslimgate, madrassagate, Senate hearingsgate, title at UChicagogate, Hawaii vacationgate, shoulda picked Hillarygate, too liberalgate, Ayersgate, flag pingate, druggate, patriotismgate, foreignergate, voting presentgate in Illinoisgate, Chicago rough and tumblegate, HarvardLawReviewgate, AfricanAmericans voting for himgate, did he use the race cardgate, is he black or whitegate, Euro tripgate, columnsgate, too oratoricalgate…..”
    Actually questions, you mentioned over 25 specific issues pertaining to Senator Obama in your comment. None of them was covered with vigor by the mainstream media with one exception, “Preachergate.”
    Had the other items that you mentioned received any attention of significance, Obama would not be the nominee today.
    Obama was and is the media’s candidate, just like Bush was four and eight years ago. That’s why Bush beat Gore. That’s why Bush beat Kerry. And that’s why I’m betting Obama will beat McCain.
    You hated the fact that the media insured Bush’s election the two times he ran. This time you like the fact that it’s your candidate who is being treated with kid gloves by the media. Four years from now you might be unhappy with the results again.
    The fact that new media sources like the Washington Note appear to be as bad as old media sources like the New York Times or Cable News is not something that any of us should be celebrating.

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  37. questions says:

    “Now questions, that just isn’t fair. We all know who the deity is in this election, and it’s not Sarah Palin. I don’t think she was a good choice, but Tahoe Editor never claimed she was a deity. Neither did McCain and neither did Governor Palin herself”
    It’s not the claim per se, it’s the treatment. She’s heavenly. She’s an earth mother. She’s a mother and worker who does it all with (I guess) a stay at home dad or some heavy duty nannying. She’s regular like all of us, but so regular that she’s really a goddess at regularity. She’s brave with a gun, a veto, a wolf or bear, she can walk on water — oops, I mean snow — she bravely momly drove some kids to afterschool lessons, she is a masculine woman, a feminine man, she is all things to all people….
    OOPS — except for, so far at least, all of the women who are INSULTED at McC’s choosing someone of such little accomplishment instead of a woman with a record, except for all the women (and men) who have issues with the purity of her pro-life position, except for IR people who are horrified that a 3 day (was it??) trip to Kuwait and a refueling stop in Ireland and a few trips to Canada is ALL the international stuff she’s done. Cindy McCain could only say, “Alaska is near Russia.”
    Not everyone is in as much love with Palin as Tahoe would have.
    I personally don’t know if exciting the base is enough anymore for the Reps. She does excite the base –the prolife, proflag, pro-creationism (in school that is), progun, proChristian people among us. Not sure that’ll work given Iraq, economy, bank and credit failures….
    But for Tahoe, he’s in love or paid to seem so.

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  38. rich says:

    Hilarious Lehrer Report tonight.
    Gwen Ifill is interviewing Heather Wilson (R-NM) and Mary Fallon (R-OK), both of whom are busily spouting feminist talking points.
    “No one ever asked John Kennedy if he could be a father and be President. No one ever asked Barack Obama if he could be a father and run for President at the same time. Just because Gov. Palin is a woman, everybody’s questioning whether she can do both. She’s run her family’s fishing business, been a mayor, etc., etc.”
    You get the picture. Hillary lays the groundwork, Sarah blasts through the glass ceiling. That, at least, is a strong possibilty as long as ‘progressives’ / ‘liberals’ think they won’t damage the Obama/Biden ticket by attacking Sarah Palin because of who she is.

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  39. WigWag says:

    “But there are also legitimate reasons to look into the background of a “known unknown” picked as a VP candidate.”
    Right! But one would also hope that there are legitimate reasons to look into the background of Presidential candidates too.
    In the case of Barack Obama, the media didn’t seem to think that was necessary.
    They vetted his candidacy with the same vigor that they displayed in reporting the run-up to the Iraq War.

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  40. questions says:

    WigWag, and by extension, Tahoe,
    Preacher gate, Eurogate, Rezkogate, public fundinggate, Michellegate, Michelle’s thesisgate, Muslimgate, madrassagate, Senate hearingsgate, title at UChicagogate, Hawaii vacationgate, shoulda picked Hillarygate, too liberalgate, Ayersgate, flag pingate, druggate, patriotismgate, foreignergate, voting presentgate in Illinoisgate, Chicago rough and tumblegate, HarvardLawReviewgate, AfricanAmericans voting for himgate, did he use the race cardgate, is he black or whitegate, Euro tripgate, columnsgate, too oratoricalgate…..
    What wasn’t vetted? He released finances, medical stuff, they talked to neighbors, he’s been PUBLIC in the lower 48 for quite some time. Newspaper articles are on line and easy to find. Chicago is on the map. He’s been in the US Senate and has a voting record, in the IL General Assembly and there’s a voting record. He’s given interviews, campaign speeches. He didn’t come out of nowhere. Lots of people know him. He has had an ENTIRE BROADCAST/CABLE NETWORK (Fox) DEVOTED to outing EVERYthing about him.
    Chill on the vetting process.
    Palin is out of nowhere, little press coverage, little fame, little of anything. Not a lot of voting — not much legislative EXPERIENCE (insert…) so not much of a record…..
    So, yes, the media are going to vet. Expecially since the Repubs seem to have failed at some level.
    Had a sitting senator or congresswoman or long-serving governor in the lower 48 been selected, there would be less media freak out. They would have had articles ready, clippings ready, video ready…..
    INTERRUPT THE MEME ’08

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  41. WigWag says:

    “Sarah Palin is a goddess of all virtue.”
    Now questions, that just isn’t fair. We all know who the deity is in this election, and it’s not Sarah Palin. I don’t think she was a good choice, but Tahoe Editor never claimed she was a deity. Neither did McCain and neither did Governor Palin herself.
    Remember, only one candidate in this election has said this:
    “You will see a light shine down from above and you will know you have to vote for Barack.”
    There’s only room for one demigod in this election and everyone knows who that is!

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  42. Tahoe Editor says:

    correction: “anti-GOP people on blogs” and nearly every TV station and newspaper you can find.
    Chris Matthews (leg tingling): “IF YOU DON’T CRY WHEN OBAMA SPEAKS, YOU’RE NOT AN AMERICAN.”
    Come to think of it Paul & JohnH, that’s your perfect example. You have about as good a shot as convincing the electorate that Palin is anti-American as Chris Matthews’ attempt to convince the voter that if s/he isn’t moved to tears by BO’s rhetoric, s/he is anti-American.
    It’s truly cuckoo for cocoa puffs.

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  43. Paul Norheim says:

    “Why has the media put more energy into looking into Sarah
    Palin’s background in the past 4 days than they have into looking
    into Barack Obama’s background in the past 2 years?
    I hope it’s not indelicate to ask.”
    WigWag, you know the sad answers to your question: Potential
    scandals and personal stuff sells. Anti GOP people on blogs
    wanted to kill her politically. And then there is plenty of sexism.
    But there are also legitimate reasons to look into the background
    of a “known unknown” picked as a VP candidate.

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  44. Tahoe Editor says:

    The “truth” y’all are trying (and failing) to push is that Sarah Palin is a dangerous extremist of questionable patriotism because of her associations with the AIP.
    The average American can understand a little pandering to the AIP. The Weather Underground, not so much.
    Understandably, you’re frustrated.

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  45. markusbondi says:

    The AGE/HEALTH ISSUE OF POTUS CANDIDATES:
    MCCain is 72 but seems strong and surly – many over 80s live full feisty physical lives.
    Nelson MAndela was elected at 70 & did most of his big work at 80+
    Obama has been a heavy smoker for life and his father died at 46 and mother at 52. I pray he & MCCAin live long happy lives, but as far as mortality stats go, they are both pretty close to expire at the same time…

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  46. questions says:

    Sarah Palin is a goddess of all virtue. She cannot be criticized. All Republicans are geniuses. They cannot be criticized. No Republican has ever made a mistake. John McCain has never made a mistake. Sarah Palin is a goddess of all virtue.
    Obama, surrender now. It’s over before it started. You cannot beat a goddess of all virtue. Especially since all you are is a mistake.
    The preceding message was brought to you by Tahoe’s official translator.
    I’m Tahoe and I approve this message.

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  47. Paul Norheim says:

    “TRUE: “Being a gun-toting Christian mother of five with a son
    deploying to Iraq doesn’t make Palin a patriotic American.”
    ALSO TRUE: “Being a gun-toting Christian mother of five with a
    son deploying to Iraq is more than enough to convince the
    general electorate that Palin is a patriotic American.”
    This isn’t philosophy class, it’s U.S. politics.” (Tahoe)
    —————————–
    Tahoe rarely sees the point to distinguish between truth and lies;
    it`s all about the political effect: “philosophy class” versus
    “politics”. This is the propagandist`s credo in a nutshell, and what
    provokes anyone possessing an inch of intellectual honesty.
    Tahoe is a true disciple of Karl Rove.

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  48. Tahoe Editor says:

    WigWag you fvcking ROCK

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  49. WigWag says:

    I’m glad the main stream media is looking into Sarah Palin. All candidates should be vetted by the media.
    I have just one question. Why has the media put more energy into looking into Sarah Palin’s background in the past 4 days than they have into looking into Barack Obama’s background in the past 2 years?
    I hope it’s not indelicate to ask.

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  50. Tahoe Editor says:

    See above.
    I’ll put all my chips on the Democrats not being able to paint Palin as a dangerous extremist of questionable patriotism.
    And it’s not because they don’t want to.

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  51. JohnH says:

    Tahoe, if I were you, I would go to my boss and say “Houston (odds are he’s a rich Texan), we have a problem.”
    If the Democrats can’t paint Palin as a dangerous extremist of questionable patriotism, it’s only because they don’t want to win.

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  52. Tahoe Editor says:

    JohnH,
    You remind me of Katrina vanden Heuvel yammering with the MSNDC crowd a couple months ago. You could actually see her trying to contain her Byzantine thought process — she was really, really workin’ it — and then she finally concluded with, “John McCain doesn’t care about the veterans. If you really care about our men and women in the military, you know John McCain does not have their interests at heart.” The whole panel gave each other glances like they were about to burst into laughter.
    You can get lots of support in Berlin and Ward Churchill’s classroom with that, but not in the voting booth.

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  53. WigWag says:

    Summary of Election Coverage By Old Media
    1)Why has Hillary Clinton decided to show cleavage? (Chris Matthews)
    2)Every time I see Hillary Clinton I have to cross my legs. (Tucker Carlson)
    3)Hillary Clinton is pimping out her daughter. (David Shuster)
    Summary of Election Coverage By New Media
    1)Was Sarah Palin’s last child (the one with Down Syndrome) really her’s or was it her daughter’s? We need an investigation. (Daily Kos)
    2)Where was Sarah Palin when her water broke? Somebody call Seymour Hersh!(The Washington Note)
    3)Sarah Palin’s 17 year old unmarried daughter is pregnant. Will she withdraw? (Huffington Post)
    Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
    It looks like we will be fooled again!

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  54. Tahoe Editor says:

    TRUE: “Being a gun-toting Christian mother of five with a son deploying to Iraq doesn’t make Palin a patriotic American.”
    ALSO TRUE: “Being a gun-toting Christian mother of five with a son deploying to Iraq is more than enough to convince the general electorate that Palin is a patriotic American.”
    This isn’t philosophy class, it’s U.S. politics.
    Really? “McCain/Palin (POW Navy veteran Alaska National Guard NRA solider son): Which Country Would They Really Put First?” — That’s your pitch?
    Print up the signs for the protesters — it’s cuckoo for cocoa puffs time in St. Paul.

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  55. JohnH says:

    More guilt by association crap that hasn’t stuck on Obama.
    Being a gun-toting Christian mother of five with a son deploying to Iraq doesn’t make Palin a patriotic American. There are lots of Polish or Georgian mothers who can make the same claims.
    I can just see it now:
    “Six years ago Sarah Palin wanted to secede from the United States and start a new country.”
    “McCain/Palin: Country First.”
    “Which country?”

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  56. Tahoe Editor says:

    I’ve heard it all already. She wants to know exactly how she can make the most of the position, and she wants to know what the president would expect from her. The position is different with every administration, as you probably know. She doesn’t have to recite the Funk & Wagnall’s definition of a vice president’s duties — she wants to know how she would fit in and serve her country. Again, 1,000 times, putting her experience up against Obama’s is a GOP winner. Thank you.
    Keep trying, you’ll get something to stick eventually. Or keep praying for new revelations.

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  57. WigWag says:

    An Interview with your average fauxgressive:
    Question: Did you know that teen pregnancy in the African American community is three times more prevalent than in the population as a whole?
    Answer: So what? It’s a cultural choice. It’s of no consequence whatsoever. If you think it is, you’re a racist!
    Question: Did you know that teen pregnancy in the Latino community is increasing while it has actually been decreasing in the African American and white communities?
    Answer: No, I didn’t know that. But what difference does it make. Why are you even bothering to tell me that?
    Question: Did you hear that Sarah Palin’s 17 year old unmarried daughter is pregnant?
    Answer: I just knew it. What can you expect from these hicks! This just proves that Governor Palin should never have been nominated! She has five kids, she likes to hunt, she likes to fish and her teenage daughter is pregnant. It’s par for the course for white tr**h like Palin.
    An Interview with your average “values voter.”
    Question: What do you think of Paris Hilton?
    Answer: Paris Hilton’s obsession with sex and sexuality is destroying American society. Paris Hilton must be stopped! Conrad Hilton must be turning over in his grave!
    Question: Did you hear that Jamie Lynn Spears, Britney’s 16 year old sister, is pregnant?
    Answer: And they call her a role model? She should be banned from television. Her parents need to exercise some discipline. What kind of parents can she have to allow this to happen?
    Question: Did you hear that Sarah Palin’s 17 year old unmarried daughter is pregnant?
    Answer: Her family has handled this so magnificently. They are a role model for all of us. She’s keeping the baby. She has her mother’s support. Her father is in this with her all the way. The Palin family is the paradigm for the great American family. She’s not getting an abortion. Her parents should really be proud!
    I’m sick of politics and I need a break. I think I’ll turn off the conventions and watch a movie. I heard Juno was good. Can anyone tell me what it was about?

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  58. Paul Norheim says:

    “When asked earlier this year on CNBC about whether she’d be
    picked for McCain’s VP, Palin said, “We wanna make sure that that
    VP slot would be a fruitful type of position, especially for
    Alaskans, and for the things we’re trying to accomplish up here
    for the rest of the US, before I can even start addressing that
    question.” ”
    But this is only the beginning. Want more?

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  59. Tahoe Editor says:

    Americans are already debating whether she has more experience than Obama, and they have serious questions about his patriotism (Ayers/flag desecration, “God Damn America”, bringing the “Present” Vote to the United Nations, “I’ll stand with the Muslims”). What’s more, this door is open thanks in part to the poor judgment Obama displayed by labeling the Americans Viewed As Most Patriotic as FALSE PATRIOTS because they wear flag pins in their lapels. I’ll admit, that was ballsy. But who’s a false patriot now?
    Palin is a lifelong member of the NRA, a Christian mother of five who son is deploying to Iraq on Sept. 11. You think you’re going to turn these tables with the AIP?
    You have a lot of organizing to do.

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  60. JohnH says:

    I love it. Tahoe Troll has no answer to questions about Palin’s patriotism.
    Yes, I think that American voters are intelligent enough to see that joining a secessionist movement is unpatriotic. Republicans, who put ‘Country First,’ should be particularly outraged.
    How can someone who wanted to secede from the country ever become a trustworthy Commander in Chief?
    Republicans have spent months trying to impugn Obama’s patriotism, using the best guilt by association crap they could find. It’s been largely unsuccessful, mostly because there is no ‘there’ there.
    With Palin, the ‘there’ is in the public record.

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  61. Tahoe Editor says:

    She’s 1 of 50 governors. She’s less obscure and certainly much more accomplished than many senators. This meme that’s she’s just walked out of the wilderness is a loser, just like crying that she’s never been on “Meet The Press.”
    The MSM & liberal elites get nervous when someone hasn’t been on “Meet The Press.”
    The rest of America says, “Thank G-d.”

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  62. Paul Norheim says:

    If you regard high risk gambling (by picking a “known unknown”
    as VP) a patriotic act, then at least McCain is a good and brave
    American, and nobody should have any reason to worry.

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  63. Tahoe Editor says:

    Pure desperation. Does anyone out there really think the general electorate will buy Palin as an anti-American figure? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? (anyone other than those still clinging to Palin’s fake pregnancy, that is.)

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  64. Paul Norheim says:

    JohnH,
    you should know that Tahoe couldn`t care less whether Palin is
    pro secession or not; whether she is able to deal with the
    responsibilities of being VP of the USA, etc…
    Tahoe cares about one thing: GOP winning the election. And in
    that context, a poster photo of Palin in bikini carrying a weapon
    tells more then thousand words.

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  65. Tahoe Editor says:

    If you want to compare Barack Obama’s patriotism to Sarah Palin’s, you must want McCain to win.
    The VP debate Oct. 2 will be all about Changeâ„¢ vs. the same tired old blowhard Washington politics. Should be exciting.

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  66. JohnH says:

    Sure, sure, Tahoe Troll. Ed Kilgore’s point is to not “deride Palin as a lightweight or someone obviously unqualifed to be commander-in-chief–another Dan Quayle.”
    Kilgore may be right. But what about her PATRIOTISM? Joining a secessionist movement is serious stuff. And you can’t dismiss it simply by cutting up Old Glory to cover up your crotch and breasts, which any red blooded American should consider to be highly offensive, considering all the different body fluids she could get on the flag.

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  67. Tahoe Editor says:

    Yes, let’s keep comparing this kind of patriotism:
    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/05/trampling_the_f/
    to this kind of patriotism:
    http://current.com/items/89260083_sarah_palin_bikini_wearing_gun_toting_veep
    Sarah Palin is anti-American? That might fly for about 24-48 hours with The Atlantic and DailyGross. I think y’all are starting to get the picture.
    Ed Kilgore/The Democratic Strategist: Avoiding the McCain-Palin Trap:
    http://www.thedemocraticstrategist.org/strategist/2008/08/avoiding_the_mccainpalin_trap.php

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  68. JohnH says:

    Come on, Tahoe–America, love it or leave it. That’s the conservatives mantra. Fixing America is not an option. It’s pretty clear Palin was hoping to leave America and take Alaska with her.
    If impugning Democrats’ patriotism is fair game, impugning Republican, Alaska secessionists is fair game as well, irrespective of gender, family values, religion, etc. Palin’s lack of patriotism should be warm, red meat for the hyper-patriotic Republican base. It should represent the one absolutely unforgivable sin, or are they hypocritical, moral relativists on this issue as well?

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  69. Tahoe Editor says:

    Sweetness: nail, head
    TEAM MCCAIN HITS BACK ON PALIN, VETTING
    “Todd’s DUI — we judged that to be immaterial to the selection process. The ticket for fishing without a license — we judged that to be immaterial to the selection process.” On the charge that Palin was a member of the Alaska Independence Party, the strategist said, flatly, “She was never a member of the independence party, because she has been a registered Republican.” (Later, the McCain camp put out a statement saying it had provided reporters with “ALL voter registration documentation” showing that Palin has been a registered Republican since 1982 and “has never been a member of the AIP.”) And on the issue of Palin’s daughter Bristol being pregnant: “John McCain made a decision that did not affect his decision-making in terms of her qualifications.” (As far as the allegation that Gov. Palin faked a pregnancy to cover up for her daughter is concerned, it appears the McCain campaign knew about it and looked into it, but never very deeply because it had been proven false to the satisfaction of pretty much anyone outside The Atlantic or the DailyKos.)
    From our conversation, it was clear that the McCain campaign paid a lot of attention to the so-called “Troopergate” issue. After all, unlike the “fake baby” story that has preoccupied the press, it is a real issue involving allegations that Palin abused her power. Last night, the McCain campaign distributed a “background guidance” memo to reporters on the issue. In our conversation, the strategist recounted much of the substance of that memo.
    “Of course this issue came up in the vetting, and this is what we discovered,” the source said. “The man who was fired has said on the record that he was never pressured by the governor or the governor’s husband on the issue of firing Trooper Wooten. The governor had a vision for how she wanted that department to be run. The commissioner had a different vision.”
    “The reason that members of the Palin family were having discussions with the head of the state police about this state trooper, who was her ex-brother-in-law, was because he had made threats against the family. He threatened to kill the governor’s daughter, her father, and her sister. He tasered her 11-year-old stepson. And that is why the Palin family was concerned about this trooper.”
    http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=N2EyM2Q2NjYxZmUxMzgxNTYwMjAwZDk3MmE2NGNmNjY=

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  70. Sweetness says:

    “Sarah Palin is a living reminder that the ultimate source of political
    power in this country is not the Kennedy School or the Davos
    Summit or an Ariana Huffington salon; even now, power emanates
    from the electorate itself.”
    No need for a reminder there. All one need do is look at Bush,
    elected twice, to realize that the American electorate is in charge.

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  71. Tahoe Editor says:

    The Alaska Independence Party looks to me like a quaint relic that Alaskan politicians of all stripes tolerate and even mingle with as part of the landscape. It’s hardly the Weather Underground.

    Sarah Palin is a living reminder that the ultimate source of political power in this country is not the Kennedy School or the Davos Summit or an Ariana Huffington salon; even now, power emanates from the electorate itself. —Christopher Orr

    Disparaging Sarah Palin’s family rallies America to John McCain.

    Palin is Deeply Threatening to the Left (Andrea Tantaros)
    There must be something about Sarah Palin that is deeply threatening to the left, a constituency that has long believed they have cornered the working mother market. Five kids? She should be at home begging Democrats for a handout. A husband in a union? He should be on the picket lines.
    Liberals like to pretend they are tolerant and accepting of those who are different but when it comes to anyone not ensconced in their progressive, elitist dogma they mock and attack their lifestyle to inspire hate. But because governor Palin is endearing, authentic — and with this latest revelation — easy to identify with, she invokes panic in the left. Why else would they assail a very popular, promising lady and her children?
    The key question here is: What is the extreme left trying to prove? How does this make Sarah Palin unfit to serve? And how exactly will this story look bad to voters? A mother stands behind her child. I can think of worse stories than “Palins Come Together to Support Teen Daughter.” This is America. This is life.
    Ridiculing McCain’s VP pick for her commitment to family, poking fun at her hobbies and pushing smear about her kids will only bite back. Remember there’s a reason the naked protesters who ran up and down Eighth Avenue in New York City during the 2004 convention helped Republicans: they made liberals look cuckoo for cocoa puffs.
    Perpetuating laughable legend and assailing the American family is akin to the in the buff boycotting. It makes the lefties look desperate, unstable, paranoid and downright mean. And it will hurt the Democratic brand if it continues.
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/sarah_palin_deeply_threatening.html

    GOP Rallies as Media Piles on Palin (Clive Crook)
    The good news for the McCain campaign is that many Democrats are mishandling Palin’s family as badly as they mishandled the nomination in the first place. There is a tone of exultation over the Palin family’s difficulties that will strike many centrists, and decent people regardless of ideology, as repellent.
    While I am complaining about the odious instincts of my profession, let me mention in passing the bid that Campbell Brown is making to supplant Lou Dobbs as the most objectionable broadcast bloviator, thereby securing the top two slots for CNN’s “best political team on television”. On Sunday I watched amazed as her supposed interview of a McCain spokesman on the Palin pick degenerated into a laughing, contemptuous harangue. Her evident disgust at the choice was not to be appeased. Then on Monday she demanded of another McCain surrogate to know whether Palin could be a good mother since she had knowingly thrust her daughter into the spotlight. But who, for heaven’s sake, is directing that spotlight? This is like the mugger who tells his victim he regrets what’s happening, “but why were you so stupid as to walk up this dark alley?” Others might be entitled to make that point, but it is nauseating to hear it from the regretful self-righteous mugger herself.
    If the Democrats had any sense, they would follow their leader’s dignified and expedient example, shut up, and wait and see. Luckily for the Republicans, they apparently don’t.
    http://clivecrook.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_palin_nomination.php

    The Case Against the Case Against Palin (Christopher Orr)
    Listening to the Democratic leadership respond to John McCain’s selection of Sarah Palin as his vice presidential running mate, one hears echoes of the Alaska Republican leadership from just a few years ago. Barack Obama’s spokesman, Bill Burton, put it this way: “Today, John McCain put the former mayor of a town of 9,000 with zero foreign policy experience a heartbeat away from the presidency.” Former mayor? If you’re going to skip over her job as governor and, before that, her job heading the commission that oversees production of the largest petroleum reserves in America, why not “former high school student”? Bah, what does it matter: She’s just a small town mayor, just a hockey mom, just a beauty pageant queen. Palin has never shunned these belittling monikers, in part, I imagine, because the camouflage has served her so well. Soothed by the litany, her opponents tend to sleep too late, sneer too much, and forget who it is that hires them.
    Watching Palin operate over the past few years has been like witnessing a dramatic reading of All the King’s Men. In 2002, Murkowski had interviewed but passed over Palin in selecting a replacement for the senate seat he vacated to become governor. In a grand act of nepotism, he chose his own daughter instead. Palin was tossed a bone: She chaired the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation Commission, which oversees the production of petroleum in Alaska. When she reported conflicts of interest and other ethical violations by another commissioner, she was ignored by Murkowski’s chief of staff and ultimately resigned in frustration. One can imagine how the quick double dose of corruption — insiders having their way with the polity and its resources — sickened the young Palin. It also fired a savage competitiveness that is not, perhaps, apparent at first glance.
    What the Republicans missed about Sarah Palin then — and what the Democrats seem poised to miss now — is that she is a true political savant; a candidate with a knack for identifying the key gripes of the populace and packaging herself as the solution. That keen political nose has enabled her to routinely outperform her resume. Nearly two years into her administration, she still racks up approval ratings of 80 per cent or better.
    In probing this candidate, it would behoove the Democrats and the pundits to shed the notion that they are dealing with some dimwitted bumpkin (Dan Quayle seems to come up a lot lately) who’s going to start crying when they ask her to name the president of Azerbaijan; or that Palin is the townie who was brought into the Skull & Bones initiation night for the amusement of all; or that somehow the prom queen ballots got mixed up with the Alaska gubernatorial poll. Trivialize her at your own peril.
    Sarah Palin is a living reminder that the ultimate source of political power in this country is not the Kennedy School or the Davos Summit or an Ariana Huffington salon; even now, power emanates from the electorate itself.
    Sooner or later, the Obama camp will realize that the beauty pageant queen is an enormously talented populist in a year that is ripe for populism. For their own sake, it had better be sooner.
    http://blogs.tnr.com/tnr/blogs/the_plank/archive/2008/09/02/the-case-against-the-case-against-palin.aspx

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  72. Kathleen says:

    My apologies, guys. I had deleted all that extraneous stuff before captcha spit it out a kajillion times…naturally it swalloweed it the one time I forgot to delete…

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  73. Kathleen says:

    Do you think Dopey and darth will unveil the new US-iraqw Agreement for the Repugnathon?
    US-Iraqi Agreement
    Raed Jarrar’s Blog
    I read about a leaked copy of the US-Iraqi agreement a few days ago when a radio station in Iraq mentioned some of its details, then it was mentioned in some Arab newspapers like Al-Qabas and Al-Sharq Al-Awsat. A couple of days ago, one Iraqi website (linked to an Iraqi armed resistance group) published the leaked draft on their web page for less than a couple of days before their website went offline. (Thankfully, I downloaded the 21 pages agreement and saved them before their server went down)
    I spent this weekend translating it, and just finished now. you can read the 27 articles August 6th draft by clicking here or here or here. The title of this draft is “Agreement regarding the activities and presence of U.S. forces, and its withdrawal from Iraq”, but this is the same agreement that is referred to as a “status of forces agreement” or “SOFA” or framework or whatever. It’s the result of months of negotiations after Bush and Al-Maliki signed the “Declaration of Principles for a Long-Term Relationship of Cooperation and Friendship Between the Republic of Iraq and the United States of America” by the end of last year.
    This leaked draft is a treasure of information. It’s the first time any document related to this topic is made public. It shows how weak the Iraqi negotiations team is (it is really pathetic to read their “suggestions” on how to fix the disaster of an agreement).
    There are many outrageous articles in the agreement that violates Iraq’s sovereignty and independence, and gives the U.S. occupation authorities unprecedented rights and privileges, but what has draw my attention the most (so far) are three major points:
    1- the agreement does not discuss anything about a complete US withdrawal from Iraq. Instead, it talks about withdrawing “combat troops” without defining what is the difference between combat troops and other troops. It is very clear that the US is planning to stay indefinitely in permanent bases in Iraq (or as the agreement calls them: “installations and areas agreed upon”) where the U.S. will continue training and supporting Iraqis armed forces for the foreseeable future.
    2- the agreement goes into effect when the two executive branches exchange “memos”, instead of waiting for Iraqi parliament’s ratification. This is really dangerous, and it is shocking because both the Iraqi and U.S. executive branches have been assuring the Iraqi parliament that no agreement will go into effect without being ratified by Iraq’s MPs.
    3- this agreement is the blueprint for keeping other occupation armies (aka Multi-national forces) in Iraq on the long run. This explains the silence regarding what will happed to other occupiers (like the U.K. forces) after the expiration of the UN mandate at the end of this year.
    It is really disturbing to read how the U.S. government is still going down the same path of intervention and domination in Iraq.
    This agreement will not be accepted by the Iraqi people and their elected representatives in the Iraqi parliament, and if the U.S. and Iraqi executive branches try to consider it valid anyway it will lead to more violence in Iraq.

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  74. DonS says:

    A couple of random quotes from above:
    “ . . .You are now trying to have the argument both ways. Is this your rhetorical strategy until November?’
    “Whether she knows it or not, she is a stalking horse.”
    The selection of Palin, a play to right of course, was also pretty desperate. But moreso, she creates,has created, a real stir. This brings out emotions. This foments an “Us/Them” scenario. That is a Rove specialty. And the trick is to keep throwing mud; see what new controversy can be used as a further wedge and to create further polarization; multiple polarizations; polarizations on top of polarizations. In the end Rove is betting that the Repubs can benefit more from biased
    emotional reaction from whatever quarter and in whatever amount. Doesn’t have a damn thing
    to do with reason, although it will be dressed up as such, as needed. Getting the opposition
    engaged in a heated emotional battle plays right into Rove’s scenario. Bring it all on! The
    more disorienting and irrational the more fodder for the emotional grinder.
    We see some on this board playing that game to the hilt. Only this isn’t a typical cross section
    of voters, so its transparency is obvious. Powerful, but obvious.

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  75. JohnH says:

    Tahoe–you ignored thetruth’s comment and link about Palin joining a secessionist party?
    Do real American patriots join secessionist movements? Or is it only a problem when Democrats do it? Or does John McCain’s enormous store of patriotism compensate for Palin’s lack of it?
    Can’t wait for your response…

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  76. Memekiller says:

    Oh… okay. I was wondering how that could be the Republican Convention with all those seats filled.

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  77. Paul Norheim says:

    Note to POA, Carroll, questions, JohnH and other regular
    commentators: Why don`t we move up to Lebowich`s Afghanistan
    post, and leave the Alaskan posts to Tahoe and those who “should
    be voting with crayons”?

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  78. Tahoe Editor says:

    rich & Kathleen have figured it out. Blowhard Ed Sullivan just got fire-bombed by the three other women on the panel — 1 Democrat & 2 Republicans — for suggesting Bristol’s pregnancy can be blamed on bad mothering. If you don’t understand why this is not a smooth move, ask a woman.
    Air America is screaming that Palin is Pure Evil because she recklessly endangered her family by flying while faking a pregnancy and that her own daughter’s pregnancy means her entire family is a failure.
    Rush Limbaugh is saying liberals are now claiming “a woman can’t do it all” and that 17-year-old Bristol shouldn’t consider raising her child in a loving, supportive family and instead exercise her right to make sure the baby doesn’t survive — even after it is born.
    I think Rush might sell more with America right about now.
    Liberals, you are so stepping in it big time.
    What’s interesting is that apparently her social views haven’t obstructed her ability to work across the aisle. She has accomplished a lot and made lots of Changeâ„¢ by working with Democrats. Maybe Alaskan Democrats aren’t the same as Washington Democrats, but still, it looks like she’s done more than nuclear security & ethics reform, nuclear security & ethics reform, nuclear security & ethics reform, nuclear security & ethics reform.

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  79. Kathleen says:

    JohnH and bks… you guys are on a roll today…the only way I’m going to be able to handle the Repugnathon is on the Comedy Channel…Jon Stewart really nails the best bloopers….POA…love your splashes of hot sauce….does anyone remember the Firesign Theater? In 1976 they ran George Papoon for President… he wore a paper bag over his head..his slogan was Not Insane!.. they were going for the plant and animal vote….sounds really sensible today…
    Trooper-Gate isn’t gonna fly… every woman who has been in an abusive relationship will consider her a champion…all McPain has to do is get Palin’s nephew to do a spot saying “Don’t tase me, Dad, don’t tase me!”….checkmate.

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  80. We're Screwed says:

    Palin has an Israeli flag in her office. The only other flag evident
    besides the U.S. and AK state. Now we know why she’s the VP
    choice.
    http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/palinflagofisrael.jpg

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  81. questions says:

    Hey, Tahoe, what I remember from Biden in the hearings was the phrase “kabuki dance” — as in we’re going to do this elaborate, staged dance in which I’m supposed to ask questions designed to elicit actual policy answers from you and then use those answers to determine, with an open mind, whether or not you have a judicial temper. But you won’t answer any questions in a meaningful way lest business come before the court, or lest you give away the fact that you’re not very judicious in your judging. So I can talk for forever and you can talk not at all, or the reverse and it just won’t matter.
    It was actually pretty clever on his part, though he got bashed for the performance. I was kind of impressed with his calling attention to the pathetic show SCOTUS hearings have become.

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  82. questions says:

    During her mayoral administration most of the actual work of running
    this small city was turned over to an administrator. She had been
    pushed to hire this administrator by party power-brokers after she had
    gotten herself into some trouble over precipitous firings which had
    given rise to a recall campaign.
    Sarah campaigned in Wasilla as a “fiscal conservative”. During her 6
    years as Mayor, she increased general government expenditures by over
    33%. During those same 6 years the amount of taxes collected by the
    City increased by 38%. This was during a period of low inflation
    (1996-2002). She reduced progressive property taxes and increased a
    regressive sales tax which taxed even food. The tax cuts that she
    promoted benefited large corporate property owners way more than they
    benefited residents.
    …….
    She’s not very tolerant of divergent opinions or open to outside ideas
    or compromise. As Mayor, she fought ideas that weren’t generated by
    her or her staff. Ideas weren’t evaluated on their merits, but on the
    basis of who proposed them.
    While Sarah was Mayor of Wasilla she tried to fire our highly respected
    City Librarian because the Librarian refused to consider removing from
    the library some books that Sarah wanted removed. City residents
    rallied to the defense of the City Librarian and against Palin’s
    attempt at out-and-out censorship, so Palin backed down and withdrew
    her termination letter. People who fought her attempt to oust the
    Librarian are on her enemies list to this day.
    ………
    WHY AM I WRITING THIS?
    First, I have long believed in the importance of being an informed
    voter. I am a voter registrar. For 10 years I put on student voting
    programs in the schools. If you google my name (Anne Kilkenny +
    Alaska), you will find references to my participation in local
    government, education, and PTA/parent organizations.
    Secondly, I’ve always operated in the belief that “Bad things happen
    when good people stay silent”. Few people know as much as I do because
    few have gone to as many City Council meetings.
    Third, I am just a housewife. I don’t have a job she can bump me out
    of. I don’t belong to any organization that she can hurt. But, I am no
    fool; she is immensely popular here, and it is likely that this will
    cost me somehow in the future: that’s life.
    Fourth, she has hated me since back in 1996, when I was one of the 100
    or so people who rallied to support the City Librarian against Sarah’s
    attempt at censorship.
    Fifth, I looked around and realized that everybody else was afraid to
    say anything because they were somehow vulnerable.
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/9/2/12360/51031/527/573079
    From an open letter to the world by someone who has known Palin for a very long time. It’s worth a read, really.
    INTERRUPT THE MEME ’08

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  83. Mr.Murder says:

    Yes, I was wrong, read what someone else said at another blog, Obama voted agains the nomination of Roberts, as did Clinton, in the Judiciary Committee.
    I’m returning there to correct their statement to me and another person.
    As for the relative item, it seems to have been stated during confirmation chatter, never confirmed. Others assert they had relatives who were fundraisers, but that’s pretty common in the political sector.

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  84. Carroll says:

    Has anyone asked Palin how she feels about the use of cluster bombs?
    We know already that McCain and Biden approve the use of cluster bombs, at least they did when Israel used them in Lebanon.
    Group: Georgia admits to dropping cluster bombs
    Human Rights Watch says Georgia admits to dropping cluster bombs in S. Ossetia
    Staff
    AP News
    A prominent human rights group says Georgia has admitted dropping cluster bombs in its military offensive to assert control over the restive province of South Ossetia.
    Human Rights Watch says it has received an official letter from Georgia’s Defense Ministry that acknowledges use of the M85 cluster munition near the Roki tunnel that connects South Ossetia with Russia.
    The M85 is the same weapon that was used extensively by Israel in its 2006 war with Hezbollah in Lebanon.

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  85. questions says:

    When I was just starting out as a reporter, a wise old newspaper man told me his rule: Don’t ever write about their kids. Leave the kids alone, unless the child runs for office, or pulls down some fat government contract, or if the parent hauls them out as a shield before an indictment
    That is from the Trib piece cited above.
    How many kids do the Palin’s have? What’s the deal with the youngest, Trig? The oldest, Track? WHY DO WE KNOW THESE FACTOIDS ABOUT THESE POOR DEFENSELESS CHILDREN WHO MUST BE SHELTERED AT ALL COSTS??? Hmmm. (I’m not referring to the rumor mill, I’m referring to the campaign biography stuff — the official Republican-sanctioned STORY (insert registered trademark symbol)).
    5 kids — none running for office. Baby Trig isn’t pulling down some fat government contract. But are they being hauled out as a shield — and there is a possible real indictment. And there’s a metaphorical indictment.
    INTERRUPT THE MEME ’08
    (And yes, Tahoe, Obama and Biden and McCain all have photo ops w/their kids/grandkids and everyone else’s children. The kids are part of the story, so lay off the Trib — it’s a Republican newspaper anyway, so they’re just meme-ing for you.)

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  86. rich says:

    This is the age of stonewalling, and Sarah Palin only needs to turn out the base in large numbers, not win over gun-control, pro-choice liberals.
    None of the ‘contradictions’ matter, as long as Sarah Palin’s messaging is effective, she can transition into the national debate credibly, and she comes off as an appealing, fresh, no-nonsense reformer. All she has to do is ignore the ‘scandals’ the same way McCain has ignored his illegal financing, Biden ignores MBNA bankruptcy & lobbying ties, and Obama ignores various (unsubstantiated) smears.
    I have no doubt Sarah Palin could go down or implode spectacularly for all the conventional reasons. But the squawking gotchas that have everybody up in arms aren’t gonna cut it. So far all anyone can accuse her of is having courage and being human.
    Besides, who wouldn’t want to vote for THIS:
    http://www.secretsofsarahpalin.com/2008/09/01/sarah-palin-in-a-bikini-with-assault-rifle-2/
    I’d suggest a Reaganesque approach, complete with fresh voice and pretty face, has a very strong chance of of winning over oodles of voters as long as she a) runs against Washington, b) runs against Bush, and c) does not associate herself with current Republican malfeasance. If people find her reassuring and see her as one of their own, John McCain could be the ticket’s only liability.

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  87. eberit says:

    I might suggest you stop feeding the trolls and wait for Steve to post his next entry….in my view this thread is going very downhill fast and not up to TWN standard.

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  88. pauline says:

    Sarah Palin as Stalking Horse
    by Stephen W. Carson
    September 1, 2008
    With the selection of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin as his running mate, John McCain has impressed many as making a savvy political maneuver. McCain has not had much appeal to pro-lifers, gun rights advocates or fiscal conservatives. Sarah Palin looks to be much more appealing to those voters. So this VP pick may serve McCain’s campaign for the presidency well.
    Bully for him, as my Grandma would say.
    For the rest of us, the Herb Tarlek question remains, “What does this mean… to me?” I believe what the selection of Sarah Palin is supposed to convey is that a McCain administration would save babies’ lives, protect gun rights and shrink the size of government.
    This is, of course, utter nonsense.
    So what is Sarah Palin’s true purpose? Whether she knows it or not, she is a stalking horse.
    I learned about a “stalking horse” reading a seemingly unrelated book years ago. It is a little treasure called Education’s Smoking Gun: How Teacher Colleges Have Destroyed Education in America by Reginald G. Damerell. The book is a fascinating account of a well-meaning retired advertising man who decided he would use his knowledge of effective communication to help people to teach. So he taught as a professor of Education at Amherst from 1970–1982. What he found appalled him.
    Education fads came and went with little or even negative benefit for the students. He eventually decided that the emperor had no clothes, that the “Educationists” had other goals besides the ones they publicly proclaimed. He came very near to the libertarian analysis of government schools, that they are a glorified jobs program with little real ability to effectively teach beyond, perhaps, filling children with the latest government propaganda.
    Where the notion of a “stalking horse” comes in is in his perceptive analysis of the use of minorities by the Education establishment. He argues that they responded to criticism in the 1950s by use of the “Big E – Education,” essentially responding to any critics by saying they were criticizing education itself. He writes:
    But handling criticism by name-calling this way was not adequate to ward off mounting criticisms in the 1960s, including numerous accusations of bigotry. Unable to reform themselves, educationists needed something to add to their Big E – education on a pedestal – behind which to hide. They found it in blacks and other minorities. They could fend off criticisms by accusing critics of being guilty of racism.
    …Educationists made blacks and other minorities their stalking horses, hiding behind them, using them as camouflage for self-protection.
    “Stalking horse” comes from hunting. To avoid scaring the prey, say a group of wild ducks, the hunter lets his horse wander towards the ducks since the ducks are not startled by seeing a horse. The hunter stays carefully behind the horse until he is close enough to shoot the ducks.
    McCain and his coterie of neocon, war-mongering imperialists are the hunters. Sarah Palin is the stalking horse. And you and me, we’re the ducks.
    There is nothing new here. In 1969, Murray Rothbard pleaded with libertarians to stop being stalking horses for the Right wing:
    I got out of the Right-wing not because I ceased believing in liberty, but because being a libertarian above all, I came to see that the Right-wing specialized in cloaking its authoritarian and neo-fascist policies in the honeyed words of libertarian rhetoric. They need you for their libertarian cover; stop providing it for them!
    As someone who is squarely in the demographic that they are trying to target with Sarah Palin, I can feel what they are trying to do. A friend of mine who is also a Christian and a libertarian hilariously wrote that he “is disappointed in himself because the Palin pick has softened his dislike for McCain.”
    Many people who were not finding much to like in John McCain will be won over simply because they find what Sarah Palin stands for much more compelling. But I’m not buying, and you shouldn’t either.
    Sarah Palin may be as sincere as can be, but if after a combined Reagan/Bush I/Bush II run of 20 years you still think the Republicans are going to shrink government, stop babies from being killed or reverse the slow erosion of 2nd amendment rights then you haven’t been paying attention.
    It’s a trick! Don’t be fooled. Once again, those devilishly clever statists are figuring out how to quiet unrest among the natives and co-opt the growing opposition movements (as seen, for example, in the Ron Paul Revolution).
    I wish Sarah Palin the best. But if she really stands for life then she’ll oppose McCain’s plan to kill more Iraqis and possibly Iranians. If she really stands for shrinking the leviathan US government, then she should know that it has grown, not shrunk, under Republican administrations. If she really understands the 2nd Amendment then she should know that it is the state that wants to register and eventually confiscate our guns so that we are helpless before it. If she really stands for the things she claims to then she should walk out of the Republican National Convention and head over to be with the true friends of liberty at the Rally for the Republic.

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  89. Tahoe Editor says:

    Sorry, Matt, I couldn’t make sense of your complaint. If you’re looking for an echo chamber, hit kos.
    Apparently the “lies” I’m spreading about “TrooperGate” are my opinion that America won’t come down on a woman who doesn’t want wife-beaters carrying badges. This is a “lie”? — no, I’m offering my political instinct.
    “Sarah Palin faked her pregnancy and is a horrible mother for getting on a plane while 36 months pregnant!” — these are not only lies, but absurdities being spewed from Piss’s bacteria-filled mouth.

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  90. Matt says:

    Tahoe Editor, you are really hitting new lows here. The reflections you produce are patronizing, insensitive and disrespectful, and are no longer grounded in anything resembling facts or reality. You are now trying to have the argument both ways. Is this your rhetorical strategy until November?

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  91. Tahoe Editor says:

    But Joe Biden offered 4,000 words of praise for Alito to upstage Alito’s 1,000 words of testimony at his confirmation hearing.
    Is this the kind of post-partisan move we want to see from the No. 1 & No. 3 Most Liberal Senators? Seems like they don’t know which battles to pick.
    The McCain campaign takes this image
    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2008/05/trampling_the_f/
    and counters with this image
    http://current.com/items/89260083_sarah_palin_bikini_wearing_gun_toting_veep
    absolutely brilliant

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  92. Matt says:

    “Didn’t Obama vote for Roberts and Alito?
    That’s right, he put an in law of GWB on the SCOTUS.”
    Actually, no, Obama didn’t vote for either of them, and I don’t think either one is a GWB in-law. Where are you coming up with this crap?

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  93. Tahoe Editor says:

    Suck on a bar of soap — your mouth is full of bacteria.

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  94. PissedOffAmerican says:

    You hypocritical internet pimp. There is nothing more despicable than a Rovian GOP slime machine in high gear. Its about time someone fed you people a dose of your own excrement.

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  95. Tahoe Editor says:

    CHICAGO TRIBUNE: Politics don’t get dirtier than smearing pregnant girl
    John Kass pegs the Pisses of the world:
    “I don’t know if Komodo dragons can type, but their mouths are so full of bacteria that if they bite your leg you’ll likely die.
    “This anonymous Komodo was probably in mommy’s basement, perhaps with a bowl of Chex Mix and a Diet Coke nearby.
    “Unfortunately for big lizard and the other haters, it wasn’t true.
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-kass-rnc-0902sep02,0,246215.column

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  96. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Thou dost protest too much, you jackass. The list of “coincidences” involving these “two” pregnancies telegraph a story that is highly unlikely to survive the test of time.
    But I’m glad you have decided to stop commenting on Troopergate, rather than simply posting lies about it.

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  97. Tahoe Editor says:

    MILLIONS OF MOTHERS CAN RELATE TO PALIN
    For normal people who don’t surf the fever swamps of the DailyKos and other liberal Web sites, the reference to faking a pregnancy has to do with a story invented by some lefty blogger that Trig Palin — Sarah’s newborn son who has Down syndrome — is actually the illegitimate son of the governor’s oldest daughter.
    This idiotically offensive slur was demonstrably false — it took me less than 60 seconds to find a photo of a painfully pregnant Gov. Palin from earlier this year — but pro-Obama activists like Andrew Sullivan and even some mainstream media outlets jumped on it.
    The 2008 presidential campaign officially has more plot twists than an episode of “Lost.” It also has two legitimate stars: Barack Obama, descended from the heavens to heal our souls and deliver our nation; and Sarah Palin, who wandered in from the Alaska wilderness with a rifle under one arm and a baby in the other.
    The Republicans figured out a strategy to deal with Oba-Messiah: the power of positive mockery. It worked so well that, not only did Obama enter the Democratic National Convention tied with McCain but, astonishingly, he ended the week the same way. The only bump this convention season is the “baby bump.”
    Does her daughter’s pregnancy provide the opening Democrats need? It’s too early to say, but my guess is no. In fact, if anything, this storyline is likely to help the McCain/Palin ticket.
    First, it will DRIVE THE RATINGS FOR PALIN’S SPEECH TOMORROW NIGHT THROUGH THE ROOF. I’ve been predicting that the tune-in for her speech would be second only to Obama’s “Night at the Parthenon” show. If the McCain campaign leaks word that Palin’s going to address her daughter’s pregnancy, she may surpass him.
    Second, this story will appeal to the women voters Palin was always put on the ticket to target — not the hard-core Hillary Lefties, but the swing, suburban moms. Palin is never going to be popular with New York Times feminists. Palin’s appeal is with working women who’ve had encounters with low-level sexism but, instead of whining about it, got back to work making happy, successful lives.
    Her daughter’s pregnancy highlights another part of Palin’s appeal. Her normalcy. Here’s a woman who has run a business, raised a family, who is sending a son off to Iraq, who has another son with a disability, and now has to help her teenage daughter face motherhood. These are experiences that millions of American moms have shared, can relate to and understand.
    Sarah Palin is as accessible as Obama is exotic. Her life story is simultaneously exciting and mundane. All the way from Alaska, she comes to America as The Girl Next Door.
    http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view.bg?articleid=1116377

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  98. Mr.Murder says:

    Posted by Matt Sep 02, 10:59AM – Link
    “I wonder how long it will be until Palin resigns from the ticket…Remember Harriet Miers?”
    Didn’t Obama vote for Roberts and Alito?
    That’s right, he put an in law of GWB on the SCOTUS.

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  99. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Well, with Lieberman on the ticket, the amount of future dead Muslims will undoubtedly grow exponentially, as will the amount of Israeli money pouring into McCain’s campaign coffers.
    Giving the nuclear trigger to this zionist bigot Lieberman is as insane as giving it to some dominionist wacko PTA mom. Maybe even more so.
    But at least with Lieberman on the ticket, McCain’s eyes might not keep straying to his VP’s ass, like they did during Palin’s introductory photo-op. Anyway, one would hope not.

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  100. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Ties to AIP and also dominionist fundamentalist wackos. Dino Flinstone being taken out on a leash by Adam and Eve.
    Pocahontas Palin, right on the heels of Torture ‘Em Cheney. It doesan’t get any more bizzarre than this shit.

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  101. MBA says:

    Prediction.
    McCain/Lieberman ticket before 2pm tomorrow.
    Palin will drop out for family reasons. Pawlenty and Romney will politely say no when McCain calls – and Lieberman will be chosen. Lieberman puts Florida and Nevada back in play.
    MBA

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  102. Matt says:

    I wonder how long it will be until Palin resigns from the ticket…Remember Harriet Miers?

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  103. PeterG says:

    NEWS RELEASE: McCain visits New Orleans during hurricane Gustav as a concerned worker…er, for a photo-op. What a change from Katrina in 2005 when (see photo) “President George W. Bush joins Arizona Senator John McCain in a small celebration of McCain’s 69th birthday Monday, Aug. 29, 2005, after the President’s arrival at Luke Air Force Base near Phoenix.” http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2005/08/images/20050829-5_p082905pm-0125-515h.html …and hurricane Katrina was completely ignored. Funny how, once you are running for public office, your handlers put you in situations where the cameras will be rolling…can you say “Mission Accomplished”?

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  104. nanook says:

    That’s right Tahoe, imagine if he was a gnarly Eskimo dude it would be another Palin VP disaster.

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  105. Tahoe Editor says:

    … securing their all-American cred.

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  106. Dan Kervick says:

    Levi and Bristol will have their own reality show before the month is out.

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  107. crimpsy says:

    Typo Tahoe – “ball” not “bowl”

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  108. Ellie says:

    I can now see why Bristol could not say No. I sympathize with her even more now. How could she have risked losing him, and now she has got him forever.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4832LQ0_T8g

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  109. Tahoe Editor says:

    Hot. I bet he can bowl better than a 31.

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  110. Tahoe Editor says:

    *yawn*
    “You know what, America, what matters is not how many times you get knocked down, but how fast you get up. We’re gonna keep getting back up, America. Ladies & gentlemen, thankuverymuch. Luvya.” — Joe Biden

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  111. varanassi says:

    good morning, tahoe!
    guess what?
    YOUR CANDIDATE IS NOW ON LIFE SUPPORT.
    you must be getting busier and busier by the hour. there’s a a heck of a lot of refuting and obfuscating to do.
    enjoy!

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  112. Tahoe Editor says:

    Pat got caught up in praising the $6 million speech because he didn’t realize soon enough that it was the 2004 keynote recycled with a military bent. He certainly did not and will not endorse Obama.

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  113. Mr.Murder says:

    …and yet Pat Buchanan endorsed Obama? Didn’t Clemons note that?
    Whoever throws the nazi word and Hitler comparisons around loses the argument.

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  114. Tahoe Editor says:

    Dems & lefties stepping in a lot these days. Another big mistake is the “does John McCain expect Hillary supporters to flock to him because they have two X chromosomes? How insulting!” meme that Eugene Robinson is pushing today. Some Clinton supporters will be moved — but he’s also going after all the women Hillary-haters out there — and there are hordes.

    POLITICO: NEW PALIN DETAILS MAY HELP, NOT HURT
    Fishing permit violations. A blue-collar husband who racked up a DUI citation as a 22-year-old. An unmarried teenage daughter who is pregnant and a nasty child custody battle involving a family member.
    All of this, to one degree or another, has surfaced in recent days as a result of efforts to discredit or undermine Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin. But these revelations may have the opposite effect: In one sense, they could reinforce how remarkably unremarkable she is.
    So far the travails of the Palin family probably seem awfully familiar to many average Americans. It is this averageness that makes her such a politically promising running mate for John McCain — and such a dangerous opponent for Democrats. Many voters will find it easy to identify with her family’s struggles — a significant advantage in an election where the voting calculus is so unusually and intensely personal.
    The fact that Palin, even as a governor, remains grounded in a recognizable American lifestyle — warts and all — has not gone unnoticed among Republicans, as the first wave of opposition research has been unloaded on her.
    Unlike running mates from both parties, dating back decades, the Palin family isn’t part of the moneyed elite or the governing class. Neither wife nor husband is the scion of a well-connected family. Sarah Palin attended a state school, and her brushes with the law are of the same nettlesome kind that drive recreational fishermen crazy in all 50 states.
    EVEN THE GOVERNOR’S OWN TROOPER-GATE SCANDAL, IN WHICH PALIN IS ALLEGED TO HAVE EXERTED UNDUE PRESSURE TO FIRE A STATE TROOPER, IS SUFFUSED WITH AN ELEMENT THAT MANY FAMILIES CAN IDENTIFY WITH: ONE SISTER STEPPING IN ON BEHALF OF ANOTHER IN AN ACRIMONIOUS DISPUTE WITH A BROTHER-IN-LAW.
    With a pregnant teenage daughter and an infant with Down syndrome, the Palins, it seems, have been caught up in the same struggles of everyday life that confront many American families. And it poses a difficult challenge for Democrats because she will be juxtaposed against Biden, a United States senator with 35 years of experience.
    It is revealing that the first round of tough stories after his nomination explored conflicts of interest between Biden family members and one of the nation’s biggest asbestos litigation law firms. That’s a long way from fishing license violations.
    There is no playbook for how to contend with a national politician who hasn’t been in the public arena long enough to accumulate the kind of personal and ethical baggage that almost invariably accompanies the ascent to power.
    The recently dialed-down Democratic response to Palin’s nomination is an indicator that the Obama campaign is beginning to understand what it’s up against.
    Barack Obama: “People’s children are especially off-limits. This shouldn’t be part of our politics. It has no relevance to Gov. Palin’s performance as a governor or her potential performance as a vice president. So I would strongly urge people to back off these kinds of stories. You know, my mother had me when she was 18, and how a family deals with issues and teenage children, that shouldn’t be a topic of our politics.”
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0908/13062_Page2.html

    THE LIBERTARIAN CASE FOR PALIN
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2008/09/the_libertarian_case_for_palin.html

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  115. Carroll says:

    As much as this election disgust me, in some ways I find hope in it believe it or not.
    It appears that ‘politics of pandering’ is in meltdown and exploding itself. It’s a regular food fight of ‘this is my crowd!, no it’s our crowd!..we luved them first!…no! we luv them better!…we are the luv the sinner party!…well, (huff) we are the everyone is a sinner party!..we will bomb the world to save you!….yea? well so will we!
    It’s downright hysterical how both parties are caught in their own webs. Can spiders spit? If so then I picture the parties as spiders all tangled up in their webs spitting at each other becuase their webs got intertwined with the other spiders web.
    Some people think this will move the public to the center. Other people think the public will soon not give a damn about either ‘party and look for something different.

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  116. Carroll says:

    Glen Greenwald has some more on the military troops and arrest at the convention site.
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
    And another Demzio adds to the fray on Palin:
    http://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic_semper_tyrannis/2008/09/palin-buchanan.html
    Palin, Buchanan and Israel?
    “Rep. Bob Wexler, D-Florida, took the AP report, and said “John McCain’s decision to select a vice presidential running mate that endorsed Pat Buchanan for president in 2000 is a direct affront to all Jewish Americans. Pat Buchanan is a Nazi sympathizer with a uniquely atrocious record on Israel, even going as far as to denounce bringing former Nazi soldiers to justice and praising Adolf Hitler for his ‘great courage.’ At a time when standing up for Israel’s right to self-defense has never been more critical, John McCain has failed his first test of leadership and judgment by selecting a running mate who has aligned herself with a leading anti-Israel voice in American politics. It is frightening that John McCain would select someone one heartbeat away from the presidency who supported a man who embodies vitriolic anti-Israel sentiments.”” ABC News
    Well, I don’t think that Buchanan is a Nazi sympathizer, but it is clear that he thinks Israel has had too much influence on American foreign policy.
    The Palin/McCain campaign is now doing its best to minimize the degree of Sarah Palin’s past support for Pat Buchanan’s Quixotic attempts to run for president. They point to her later (?) support for Forbes as an antidote to the notion that she was a serious Buchanan supporter. A “pitchfork” mom?
    It will be hard to make that work for a lot of hard core Zionists. Palin’s support for Buchanan was more than casual. He is quoted in this piece in such a way that he appears to think she was a serious supporter. You may not like Buchanan but he is not delusional. In fact, his lack of delusion on many subjects has caused him a lot of trouble.
    The big question about Palin and “foreign” policy ought to be how she can have supported Buchanan’s view that Israel is a small, foreign place, far away that costs the US more than it is worth. Now that she is the running mate (“soul mate” as well?) of John (Ich bin ein Tel Aviver) McCain.
    The cynicism of the people running the McCain campaign will allow for an easy amnesia of her earlier position if the Democrats allow that. The possibility of relentless questioning on this point beckons.
    McCain does not deal well with frustration. He does not deal well with opposition to his judgment calls. There is a real possibility that he can be provoked into a moment… “You want the truth, you can’t handle the truth. They stole my strawberries. They stole my strawberries….” That would be “The End.”
    And then, there is Joe (sledgehammer) Biden on the other side… pl
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Two thoughts. Protest are useless. Targeted assassinations are the way to go if you are really serious about ‘change’. I am sure someone is going to take this seriously.
    And calling Buchanan, who turns me off personally, but who I agree with on a lot of foreign policy, an antisemite is not the way to get my vote, neither was calling Jimmy Carter a antisemite a vote getter for a lot of people.
    The dems are showing they can be just like the repubs? Well, we knew that already. But they aren’t as good at it. They don’t know where the juglar vein is located for the people they want to turn away from the repubs. The Palin (and the Buchanan) bashing is the wrong tact and the dems stepped right into it.

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  117. Don Bacon says:

    Miriam: “Palin is simply SCARY!!!”
    Calm down, Miriam. Do a hundred million Americans scare you? Half the adult US population believes the Bible is true, and a comparable number are pro-life and pro-gun.

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  118. Miriam says:

    Palin is simply SCARY!!!
    Besides believing in CREATIONISM, being pro-LIFE and pro-GUN. How could she be a VP, never mind be President, while being a “mom” for 5 children, including a baby with Down’s syndrome? Who is taking care of these children?
    What kind of mother would force her 17 year old daughter ( a minor) to get married and have the baby? Is this proof of her deep faith? or of ruthless ambition?
    Did McCain’s people knew this in advance?! Let’s see how long she lasts before she resigns.

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  119. bks says:

    Tomorrow’s Headlines Today:
    Family Values Floodwall Bursts
    Gustav Waterboards McCain
    Time names Gustav Man of the Year
    Gustav Dumps 18 inches of Amniotic Fluid in St. Paul
    –bks

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  120. SAS says:

    Happy Labor Day, WigWag.
    Thank you for the lyrics to Solidarity Forever. My grandfather used to sing that song to me. He was a member of the ILGWU. Every time I hear it, I cry.

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  121. Mr.Murder says:

    Freepers actually hated John McCain a year ago, loathed him. Did not consider him conservative enough. Pass the kool aid.
    They were assembling behind the Fred Thompson juggernaut. Maybe it was the trophy wife.
    Perhaps this explain’s McCain’s decision….

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  122. susan says:

    You have probably seen this one, but if not:
    USAToday/Gallup: Obama 50%, McCain 43%.

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  123. WigWag says:

    Happy Labor Day, everyone!
    When the Union’s inspiration through the workers’ blood shall run,
    There can be no power greater anywhere beneath the sun.
    Yet what force on earth is weaker than the feeble strength of one?
    But the Union makes us strong.
    Solidarity forever!
    Solidarity forever!
    Solidarity forever!
    For the Union makes us strong.
    Is there aught we hold in common with the greedy parasite
    Who would lash us into serfdom and would crush us with his might?
    Is there anything left to us but to organize and fight?
    For the Union makes us strong.
    It is we who plowed the prairies; built the cities where they trade;
    Dug the mines and built the workshops; endless miles of railroad laid.
    Now we stand outcast and starving, ‘midst the wonders we have made;
    But the Union makes us strong.
    All the world that’s owned by idle drones is ours and ours alone.
    We have laid the wide foundations; built it skyward stone by stone.
    It is ours, not to slave in, but to master and to own,
    While the Union makes us strong.
    They have taken untold millions that they never toiled to earn,
    But without our brain and muscle not a single wheel can turn.
    We can break their haughty power; gain our freedom when we learn
    That the Union makes us strong.
    In our hands is placed a power greater than their hoarded gold;
    Greater than the might of armies, magnified a thousand-fold.
    We can bring to birth a new world from the ashes of the old.
    For the Union makes us strong.
    Solidarity forever!
    Solidarity forever!
    Solidarity forever!
    For the Union makes us strong.

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  124. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “You keep saying I haven’t addressed “TrooperGate” though I’ve said over & over that I really think America won’t come down on a woman who wants to take away a wife-beater’s badge”—–Tahoe
    Read Tahoe’s horseshit, then go get the REAL story….
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/
    (Yes, Tahoe, you aren’t the only one that can spam)

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  125. champion says:

    (by the way, if you missed it, the band in the above vid on the Republican Convention is named “Hookers and Blow”, apparantly to reinforce the family values on parade during the convention)
    McCain pushes his “mavericky” credentials:
    http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/mccain-hires-go.html
    Tucker Eskew, by the way, is the operative who slimed McCain for adopting a black child from Bangladesh, likely costing him the nomination in 2000. McCain has now hired the very same Eskew to “prepare” Governor Palin.
    Mavericky!

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  126. Tahoe Editor says:

    (acting) Senate Foreign Relations Subcommittee on Europe Chairman Barack Obama went to Europe for the first time this summer for a campaign rally sandwiched between two rock concerts — this is what John Kerry uses to support Obama’s foreign-policy cred — “He attracted more people than a sitting president!” John Kerry still has whatever he had in 2004.

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  127. JohnH says:

    Here’s a compendium of Palin’s wit and wisdom on international relations–everything she’s ever said. Turns out she’s pretty strong on relations with the Yukon!
    http://www.usglobalengagement.org/ForeignPolicySn%20apshotofMcCainsVP/tabid/3064/Default.aspx

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  128. JohnH says:

    Palin got her first passport a year ago. Wow! What an interest in foreign affairs. Rivals W’s total obliviousness to international relations. We all know how well that turned out!
    Neither one has a frame of reference to dispute neocon fantasies. Bush believed anything the neocons fed him, and we can expect Palin to do the same.

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  129. Matt says:

    Let it all hang out buddy…

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  130. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Dan, welcome to the America we get when the so called “opposition party” is comprised of a bunch of mewling complicit cowards.
    These pathetic cowards should have INSISTED on accountability alooooong time ago, and pursued impeachments and indictments. But instead they stood idly by as these fascist pieces of shit in this Administration created “free speech zones”, and wantonly ignored the law both domestically and internationally.
    What the hell did you expect after eight years of getting away with treason, fascism, and murder? What signal has been sent to these monsters that they are accountable to the people or to the law?

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  131. championi says:

    Republican Convention passes the bucket for hurricane victims:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rni6G7RRFkk&eurl=http://www.dailykos.com/
    Country First!

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  132. Tahoe Editor says:

    champion, you stink of ain’t-got-nuthin’-to-say.

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  133. Matt says:

    I for one would be interested in a top-to-bottom investigation of the Alaska State Police. I think it might uncover the fact that the ratio of snowmobiles to patrol cars is somewhere around three to one. That’s what we’re dealing with here people–a less-than-two-year governor in command of a small fleet of snowmobiles.

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  134. Dan Kervick says:

    Steve,
    Please use your blog to shed more light on what is happening with the police and FBI crackdowns in Minneapolis, and to press for answers. I simply cannot believe that Amy Goodman was involved in any “conspiracy to riot”. Goodman has done tremendous service to the United States by working very hard over the past seven years to expose the crimes and lies of the hideously repulsive and deeply un-American Bush administration. She deserves help from all of us if she has been unjustly targeted for harassment and reprisal by the most thuggish and authoritarian administration in US history.
    You are seen by many as a fair-minded person without a sharp partisan agenda, so your voice will carry extra weight in this case.

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  135. champion says:

    “No doubt Josh gets a singular pleasure out of posting photos of Sarah’s tongue.
    Oh lord! She has a LAWYER! What a story!”
    You stink of fear.

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  136. Tahoe Editor says:

    No doubt Josh gets a singular pleasure out of posting photos of Sarah’s tongue.
    Oh lord! She has a LAWYER! What a story!

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  137. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “You keep saying I haven’t addressed “TrooperGate” though I’ve said over & over that I really think America won’t come down on a woman who wants to take away a wife-beater’s badge”—–Tahoe
    Read Tahoe’s horseshit, then go get the REAL story….
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/

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  138. Tahoe Editor says:

    Palin visited the troops in Kuwait and met with international energy leaders as part of her duties as governor.
    Obama visited the troops in Iraq as part of a campaign trip.

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  139. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Ok, just so Tahoe’s lyin’ horseshit is countered, keep in mind the following facts about “Troopergate”…
    Palin leveled accusations against a police officer that was involved in a feud with Palin and her family. The accusations were investigated, and some were found to warrant disciplinary action, some were found to be unfounded, and NONE were found to be serious enough to warrant firing the police officer. Unsatisfied that the officer wasn’t fired, pressures were brought to bear on the officer’s superior by Palin and her husband Troy, as well as by Palin staff members. When those pressures did not result in the desired firing, the superior was fired by Palin. Subsequently, the supereior was replaced by a man that had been disciplined for sexual harrasment, who, dismissed two weeks later, was given a ten thousand dollar severence stipend by Palin.
    I invite anyone to read Tahoe’s comments on this matter, and draw their own conclusions as to the credibility of this dissembling jackasses’ rationales, explanations, and excuses for Troopergate.
    Here is where to read up on it, and get past Tahoe’s lyin’ horseshit….
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/
    We KNOW she’s a liar, because she has lied about this. We KNOW she has abused her powers, because why else would she lie? So wonderful, McCain expects us to smile, drop our drawers, and take it in the rear as we once again get a VP who is a liar and an abuser of their powers. And meanwile Tahoe stands at the door, doling out vaseline.

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  140. questions says:

    Tahoe,
    Whoa, you’ve turned to parody?! I think she’s sinking and taking your respectability with. Sometimes I also think we should give you a Turing test to see if you’re a human or a computer. (Isn’t that what Turing tests determine?) Such automatic and oftentimes skewed responses….
    sdemetri,
    The arrests in the Twin Cities are utterly insane. They are doing preventive detention of journalists, activists, students. Some guy was possibly arrested because of a bucket of urine – turned out he lived in a garage and had no toilet. (This from AirAmerica radio, so I don’t have a better citation, or totally correct narrative.)

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  141. Tahoe Editor says:

    She visited the Alaska National Guard in Kuwait, giving her both military & international energy cred.

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  142. sdemetri says:

    Amy Goodman of Democracy Now! was among those arrested in
    the St. Paul Police preemptive sweeps and charged with “conspiracy
    to riot.”
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/09/01/protests/i
    ndex.html
    Is this what a police state looks like? Probably not from inside the
    stadium.

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  143. questions says:

    Wow, the tides a’turnin’!!! Poor Tahoe. CNN is nailing Palin surrogate/defender tucker something or other on the Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces issue. Wow. CNN. Watch it and spin. And remember that a report by one who knows came out that she has NOTHING to do wih the National Guard. She makes NO decisions. She’s just not ready.
    Just makes those women who love her feel oh so safe.
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/212194.php

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  144. thetruth says:

    It’s become obvious Palin was a rash, last-minute decision. They didn’t vet her:
    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/212192.php
    She was a member of the Alaskan Independance Party, an Alaskan secessionist group, at one point. Country First?
    Palin has retained an attorney in the burgeoning TrooperGate scandal. Always a good sign. What is she trying to hide?
    Her 17 year old daughter is pregnant and facing a shotgun wedding. Kind of punctures the whole “abstinence-only” program conservatives always push.
    Polls are showing Obama/Biden at 48-50% (fabled 50% mark!) to McCain/Palin’s 40-43. And Biden stomps Palin in a head-to-head by over 10 points.
    I doubt all this is the kind of attention McCain was hoping for, with his attempt to squash the Obama/Biden gains from the Democratic Convention with his stunt-casting of the VP slot.
    Promises to be an interesting week.

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  145. questions says:

    Not necessarily hard to dispel. 50% Obama, good readings in the electoral college so far, and the media are showing signs of flipping on McC. A lot of women are not in love with Palin, even though some are. The evangelicals won’t defect from the abortion hard line no matter what, so they don’t really factor into the equation. And some poll somewhere shows more people leaning away from McC over this pick than leaning towards him. Fundy money is an issue, though. As is the 527 stuff (Mr. Campaign Finance Reform….) Can a clear issue-oriented ad campaign peel off some of those who see common cause —
    Did ya know — asks a folksy female voice — did ya know Sarah Palin headed up Ted Stevens’s PAC and Stevens is goin’ to court?
    Did ya know — did ya know that McCain and Palin together have 10 or 12 or 15 houses….
    Did ya know — did ya know that Palin thinks rape and incest aren’t reasons for allowing a woman to choose?
    And so on…. All low key, folksy, single issue, quick, informative. Show some women being convinced. A few, No, I didn’t know responses. I’m not sure I can support her anymore….. I’m going to have to think about this.
    Very soft, but issue-y nonetheless. Stay away from her family issues. Maybe ignore her possibly corrupt husband.
    And Tahoe, I don’t think that she’s unbeatable or uncriticizable or even ready for prime time….

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  146. Tahoe Editor says:

    I think you “dispel” fantasies. Palin & The First Dude will be a hard one to dispel.

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  147. Tahoe Editor says:

    The GOP convention will eschew lavish, frivolous spending ($6 million for INVESCO) and will be turned into a giant fundraiser.
    Time for MoveOn to hit the money panic button and ask you to up your monthly contribution.

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  148. Matt says:

    Palin turns the Republicans’ campaign into a referendum on McCain’s health! Woohoo!

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  149. bks says:

    Is McCain still a viable candidate? He messed up his VP selection and the convention is a total meltdown. His judgment is seriously in question. Even Wolf Blitzer couldn’t put a happy face on the McCain implosion.
    –bks

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  150. Tahoe editor says:

    Exactly. McCain separates himself more from Bush with a pick who generates intraparty concern because they don’t know her and don’t control her. But she’s a true conservative, so they have to promote her. If she shines, this is McCain’s ace.
    Palin says Biden was against the Alaska Pipeline 30 years ago when he was in the Senate being part of the same old politics for three decades.
    Palin says making Change starts from Day 1, not after years and years of grease-poling the Chicago system for any self-promoting opportunity.
    Palin says if your family has a mother and a father you can do anything.
    Lefties bashing her family will be seen as monsters.

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  151. DonS says:

    Questions, I am sorry, but these ideological/political fixations are
    too culturally encoded to be
    influenced. Caroll’s riff on “Southern
    women” not with standing.
    Obama will have to hone his majority
    outside of these clones.
    Not that Obama really deserves it, of
    course. But he is looking like the
    lesser of the evils by far.

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  152. questions says:

    Below is the pro-Palin universe speaking volumns — this from the Times blog. It speaks to the memes that Obama is going to have to deal with, the fantasies that must be burst (or whatever one does to fantasies….)
    I just love Sarah. She will be a slayer of wasteful government spending and corruption. She’s thrifty. Probably, because she, like me has had to live on a budget, and manage her household finances. Imagine, someone that won’t waste our taxpayer dollars! It’s a refreshing change to see someone that’s not part of the Washington club run for office. Plus she got personality! As a outdoorsperson, she will have learned great respect and love for our natural resources. I learned to love the outdoors from my dad, a hunter and outdoorsman, so I know Sarah is a conservationist and will protect our environment. GREAT CHOICE JOHN MCCAIN. I’m with you all of the way. She like a female Teddy Roosevelt! BULLY!
    http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/09/01/biographer-recounts-palins-private-side/
    It’s comment #17
    Note the very strong sense of identification — Palin is just like me! Same thing Bush had. Nevermind the excessive wealth of the McCains and Bushes. Sarah is like me.
    Why isn’t Obama like ME? That’s where we have to go, and that’s what Biden is trying for.

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  153. JohnH says:

    Gustav did us all a great favor. First, by not devastating New Orleans. Second, by disrupting the Republiscum convention. And third, by not giving the Republiscum a chance to redeem themselves by showing that they actually could make FEMA work.
    But what an irony it would have been–Republiscum showing that government can work…
    It’s too soon to tell what happened to the Gulf oil fields. But where are the evangelist preachers declaring that the damage was God’s revenge on Big Oil for its sins against the environment?

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  154. DonS says:

    OK, shall we continue to focus on the intimidating tactics in Minneapolis,
    originally highlighted by Steve and
    Lindsey Byerstein, and continued here
    via a Glenn Grenwald post with video.
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/08/31/raids/
    We really don’t have time to obsess
    over Gov. Palin, do we?

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  155. We're Screwed says:

    Steve – I was just reading the comments on the last thread about
    Palin- I think that your site is being spammed by the Free
    Republic.com types (who call themselves “Freepers”) — they are
    attempting to convince you and whoever reads your comment
    section that Americans support Palin and McCain.
    The Freepers do this all the time — they “freep” polls across the
    country and the world. They “freep” anti-war demonstrations.
    They “freep” the U.S. Congress, flooding it with calls.
    Steve – please go to FreeRepublic.com and please look into its
    history.
    It might not be Freepers who are spamming this site: it could be
    any number of far-right websites that are getting their
    members out to post crap on here.
    But they’re doing it because your site is influential and they feel
    that they can lie the D.C. crowd into believing that the far-right,
    neo-conservative wing of the GOP is in fact the voice of
    America, solely by overwhelming your site with their far right
    wing junk.
    Again, Steve, please look into the history of FreeRepublic.com.
    The sudden shift in the tone of the comments on your own site
    should make you suspicious, as they have made me. Free
    Republic does this kind of orchestrated spam attack, as do other
    sites on the far-right wing.
    Honestly Steve, before you accept that the comments on your
    own site reflect American thought you owe it to your cronies in
    Washington to see if you’re being spammed in your comment
    section by the neo-crazies.

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  156. questions says:

    http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-09-01-poll-monday_N.htm
    ST. PAUL — The Democratic National Convention significantly boosted Americans’ views of Barack Obama as a strong leader who “shares your values” and can manage the economy and Iraq, a USA TODAY/Gallup Poll taken Saturday and Sunday finds.
    Republican John McCain’s advantage in handling terrorism was dramatically reduced and his “unfavorable” rating ticked up to its highest level this year.
    “This is a convention bounce,” says Robert Eisinger, a political scientist at Lewis & Clark College and author of The Evolution of Presidential Polling. The results reflect the impact of themes the Democrats hammered at their convention in Denver last week.
    Eisinger cautions, “The Republicans haven’t yet had their convention and John McCain will be exposed to a large segment of the population as well” with their convention this week. The GOP has had to deal with competing news events, however, including Hurricane Gustav and the disclosure Monday that vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin’s teenage daughter is pregnant.
    In the head-to-head race between the candidates, Obama now leads 50%-43% among registered voters. In the USA TODAY poll taken Aug. 21-23, the Illinois senator held a four-point lead.
    questions notes:
    If that 50% holds up, this is very good indeed.

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  157. Jim says:

    Tahoe, did that make sense or am I seein’ things?

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  158. Tahoe Editor says:

    The St. Paul story will be all about a different kind of Changeâ„¢ and money — lots of money.
    Obama needs to make another appeal for voters to “declare their independence” from a “broken system” by contributing to his campaign in order to be considered part of “The People.”

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