White House Statement on Gaza

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I’m flying across country today, on my way to Reno, Nevada — where from a dingy hotel according to Jonathan Alter’s fascinating new book, The Promise: President Obama, Year One, then candidate Barack Obama triggered the start of a serious White House transition plan.
I just received this White House statement on Gaza which I will post in full in the few minutes I have in Denver:

Office of the Press Secretary
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
June 20, 2010
Statement by the Press Secretary on Israel’s announcement on Gaza
The President has described the situation in Gaza as unsustainable and has made clear that it demands fundamental change. On June 9, he announced that the United States was moving forward with $400 million in initiatives and commitments for the West Bank and Gaza. The President described these projects as a down payment on the U.S. commitment to the people of Gaza, who deserve a chance to take part in building a viable, independent state of Palestine, together with those who live in the West Bank. These announcements resulted from consultations with the Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.
Today, the United States welcomes the new policy towards Gaza announced by the Government of Israel, which responds to the calls of many in the international community. Once implemented, we believe these arrangements should significantly improve conditions for Palestinians in Gaza, while preventing the entry of weapons. We will work with Israel, the Palestinian Authority, the Quartet, and other international partners to ensure these arrangements are implemented as quickly and effectively as possible and to explore additional ways to improve the situation in Gaza, including greater freedom of movement and commerce between Gaza and the West Bank. There is more to be done, and the President looks forward to discussing this new policy, and additional steps, with Prime Minister Netanyahu during his visit to Washington on July 6.
We strongly re-affirm Israel’s right to self-defense, and our commitment to work with Israel and our international partners to prevent the illicit trafficking of arms and ammunition into Gaza. As we approach the fourth anniversary of the capture of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, we call again for his immediate release, and condemn the inhumane conditions of his detention.
We believe that the implementation of the policy announced by the Government of Israel today should improve life for the people of Gaza, and we will continue to support that effort going forward. We urge all those wishing to deliver goods to do so through established channels so that their cargo can be inspected and transferred via land crossings into Gaza. There is no need for unnecessary confrontations, and we call on all parties to act responsibly in meeting the needs of the people of Gaza.

— Steve Clemons

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67 comments on “White House Statement on Gaza

  1. Carroll says:

    Israel is a democracy? I am surprised sweetness doesn’t go live in Israel where she could enjoy discriminating against Arabs in revenge for the discrimination she thinks her father and other jews suffered. How about that sweetness? You could revel in mistreating the inferior Arabs and being superior just like you think the world enjoyed mistreating the inferior jews and being their superiors. Jews like you, nadine and wig are in a revenge grudge match against the world that you can never win because you can’t directly take on the gentiles, the Europeans, who are the ones you really hate and blame for all your troubles. Someday the Jews and Israelis won’t have the Palestines and Arabs as surrogate whipping boys for jewish victimhood…what will they do then? If they want the tribe to survive they will quit while they still have something to quit with.
    Yediot

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  2. Sweetness says:

    POA writes: “Thats a crock of shit. Islam has been demonized this last decade by an eager and inciteful global gang of Jews to a degree that FAR surpasses criticism of Israel. You must be living on a different planet than the rest of us.
    SN: Well, I agree that Islam has been demonized by many people, many of them Christian Americans (those would be folks you call “Americans” and Carroll calls “people” to distinguish them, I guess, from Jews) and indeed some Jewish Americans. But I like that “global gang of Jews” thing you’ve got going–nice touch, that.
    OTOH, as Carroll is quick to point out when it applies to Jews, Muslims have contributed to their own demonization with lots of violence. People read about this violence in their papers and see it on T.V. I know you like to portray this as all the result of AIPAC memos and skullduggery, but it simply is not the case. 9/11–which perhaps you blame on Israel, but most people do not–did more to demonize Islam than anything AIPAC could have engineered.
    POA writes: Maybe you oughta just have a cup of coffee with Marcus, and figure out what gross obscenity you two are gonna throw at Carroll next. You’ve already called her a c*nt, and Marcus has the accusation of sodomy with Arab men thing covered, but I’m sure the two of you can come up with something new if you put your two nasty little minds together.
    SN: Well, you certainly haven’t. It’s always the same ole with you.

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  3. Sweetness says:

    Posted by Carroll, Jun 22 2010, 11:42PM – Link
    Carroll, Israel is a democracy. It’s a widely accepted fact. But it’s also true that it’s an imperfect democracy. It is most certainly not a theocracy. If it were, the rabbis would be running the state, just like the ayatollahs run Iran.
    You can squirm and throw your little tantrums all you like and accuse folks of lying and hypocrisy– but what you’re saying simply isn’t true. Now, you can go off and find a Jew, or even five of them, who agrees with you, but it won’t change a thing.

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  4. Carroll says:

    Posted by Sweetness, Jun 22 2010, 9:04PM – Link
    In fact, since both these countries are self-proclaimed Islamic theocracies and Israel is not, the “argument” (bogus in either case) is much stronger in the case of Iran and Saudi Arabia. Okay, let’s thrown in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan'”
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    It’s exactly the hypocrisy of the jews and their “jewish state’ pretending to be a democracy while in reality Israel is a racist theocracy that makes people sick of their whole spiel.
    If you ever stopped to think about how people view the endless stream of lies and myth and ridiculous child like propaganda you would understand why we are all disgusted.
    You are like little wind up toy lie machines…clickey clack, clickly clack, fall on your face, get rewound and go clickely clack, clickely clack….same clickley clack over and over…eventually people just want to take a baseball bat to the mindless little clickley clack toy.

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  5. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Yet, despite the tremendous amount of domestic and exported violence for which these regimes are responsible, I’m never tempted to lay the blame at the feet of…Islam”
    Thats a crock of shit. Islam has been demonized this last decade by an eager and inciteful global gang of Jews to a degree that FAR surpasses criticism of Israel. You must be living on a different planet than the rest of us.
    Maybe you oughta just have a cup of coffee with Marcus, and figure out what gross obscenity you two are gonna throw at Carroll next. You’ve already called her a c*nt, and Marcus has the accusation of sodomy with Arab men thing covered, but I’m sure the two of you can come up with something new if you put your two nasty little minds together.

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  6. Sweetness says:

    POA writes: “What over-riding factor has made Nadine, and the ruling class of citizens in the “Jewish State” embrace and defend their own bigotry and callous disregard for the suffering of an entire people? By their own admission, it is Judaism.”
    Unfortunately, this is precisely the equivalent of saying that the overriding factor that causes the Islamic Republic of Iran and the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia to brutalize their people is…Islam.
    But I don’t believe that–do you?
    In fact, since both these countries are self-proclaimed Islamic theocracies and Israel is not, the “argument” (bogus in either case) is much stronger in the case of Iran and Saudi Arabia. Okay, let’s thrown in the Islamic Republic of Pakistan.
    Yet, despite the tremendous amount of domestic and exported violence for which these regimes are responsible, I’m never tempted to lay the blame at the feet of…Islam.
    Why are you?

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  7. Sweetness says:

    Carroll writes: “A small example of why people are sick of the jews and the holocaust.”
    Carroll, “people” were sick of the Jews before the Holocaust. That’s one reason it occurred.
    But no one’s more “sick” of the Holocaust than “the Jews.” We’re much more sick of it than “people.” In fact, if we had to do it over again, we wouldn’t.

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  8. Sweetness says:

    POA writes: “As I’ve said, many times here; if Nadine, or Marcus, or Wig-wag, speaks for the Jews, if Israel’s actions are the actions of “A Jewish State”, if AIPAC is indictative of what we can expect from the Jews, if Dershowitz speaks for the Jews, then YES, color me anti-semitic.”
    Here’s a reality check: No one speaks for the Jews and that includes the PM of Israel. That’s just a fact. There is no pope, or president, or PM of the Jews. Never has been.
    But that doesn’t mean you can’t still be anti-Semitic if you want to be.

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  9. Sweetness says:

    Posted by PissedOffAmerican, Jun 20 2010, 8:31PM – Link
    Somehow, you seem to think that you’re saying something extraordinary or edgy. All these years, when you uttered the word “Israel,” what did you think you were referring to?
    Israel has been “the Jewish state” since before it was created. So?
    In terms of the Jewish state doing bad things, what makes you think this is an extraordinary statement? Or a particularly damning one? ALL states do bad things. The American state does more than its share–so does the Islamic Republic of Iran. So, what’s the point?
    The only person who thinks Jews or Israelis always hold themselves blameless is Carroll. Its her straw hobby horse and she rides it for all its worth.

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  10. Carroll says:

    Heheheh…North Carolina self hating Jews to the rescue…and not a single christian zionist showed up to protest this demonstration.
    Jewish group protests

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  11. Carroll says:

    A small example of why people are sick of the jews and the holocaust.
    I guess the reason these companies are suppose ‘to provide evidence ‘ of their companies quilt in transporting jews to camps is so the Jews can sue them on the evidence they provide against themselves.
    Bill would expose high-speed train contractors with Holocaust ties
    By Mike Rosenberg
    San Mateo County Times
    Posted: 06/21/2010 08:34:58 PM PDT
    Updated: 06/22/2010 06:39:32 AM PDT
    Train companies and foreign governments that helped support the Holocaust could be barred from working on the California high-speed railroad under a new bill in the Legislature.
    The legislation would not exempt governments or companies such as France’s bullet-train operator, whose locomotives once transported prisoners to concentration camps, from bidding for a piece of the state’s $43 billion project starting next year.
    But it would allow the California High-Speed Rail Authority to disqualify any of those companies or governments based solely on their ties to World War II atrocities, specifically from 1942 to 1944.
    If contractors fail to provide evidence they played a role in the Holocaust

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  12. lnl says:

    Into the mix…
    Israel and Apartheid South Africa
    In his new book, Sasha Polakow-Suransky, reveals the secret relationship between Israel and apartheid South Africa, involving the selling and development of weapons of mass destruction.
    Sasha Polakow-Suransky
    Senior Editor at Foreign Affairs; writer for The American Prospect, the International Herald Tribune, the New Republic and Newsweek.
    Title: The Unspoken Alliance: Israel’s Secret Relationship with Apartheid South Africa
    Author: Sasha Polakow-Suransky
    Publisher: Random House
    http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/2010/2934072.htm

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  13. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Finkelstein asks why, given that the wars in Vietnam and Iraq contributed to anti-Americanism, and the aggression of Nazi Germany gave rise to anti-Teutonic sentiment, it surprises us that an occupation by a self-declared Jewish state should cause antipathy towards Jews. The only surprise, he argues, is that the antipathy does not run deeper, given that mainstream Jewish organizations offer uncritical support to Israel; that Israel defines itself juridically as the sovereign state of the Jewish people; and that Jews themselves sometimes argue that to distinguish between Israel and world Jewry is itself an example of antisemitism. He cites Phyllis Chesler who argues, on the one hand, that “anyone who does not distinguish between Jews and the Jewish state is an anti-Semite,” but on the other that “Israel is our heart and soul … we are family.” Gabriel Schoenfeld, the editor of Commentary magazine, writes that “Iranian anti-Semitic propagandists make a point of erasing all distinctions among Israel, Zionism and the Jews,” while Hillel Halkin argues that “Israel is the state of the Jews … To defame Israel is to defame the Jews.” It would seem to be antisemitic, Finkelstein concludes, “both to identify and not to identify Israel with Jews.”[35]
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_antisemitism
    Finkelstein pretty well sums it up, doesn’t he? No matter what you say, if you criticize Israel, you are branded anti-semitic. Paul cites a change in my tone, a “turning point” in my rhetoric that seeks to include the Jews in my criticism. But where is the “turning point” in the Jew Nadine’s accusations of antisemitism? Even when I was consciously working to protect the Jews from being demonized within the debate, and being collectively blamed for the atrocities committed by Israel, her and her ilk’s accusations of antisemitism were no less strident.
    Paul seems unwilling to recognize a forceful demonstration of how hypocritical, and self serving, the tool of accusation is when used by Jews such as Nadine.
    After literally years of seeing Israel’s critics, such as myself, branded as anti-semites, (even Jews who take exception to the atrocities committed by Israel while calling itself “A Jewish State”), its time to call a spade a spade. On one hand Israel and its defenders want to claim a “Jewish Identity”, while on the other hand denying its nation’s “Jewishness” when it is cooking little kids in white phosphorous, or shooting American citizens in the head, or treating an entire population of Palestinians in a manner that can ONLY be described as racist and oppressive. You can’t have it both ways. As more and more Jews seemingly sign onto such brutality, and define a nation by declaring it an exclusively “Jewish” state, it is inevitable, and just, that her critics begin to see the crimes of Israel as the crimes of the Jews.
    The Jews don’t have to condone and support racism, atrocities, war crimes, human rights abuses, assassinations, collective punishment, torture, child imprisonment. And in by not doing so, they certainly can remove themselves from inclusion in the inevitable global response to such blatantly inhumane and racist policies. Its a choice to be made. Nadine has obviously made her choice, and, unfortunately, so too apparently has the vast majority of the Jews in Israel. What over-riding factor has made Nadine, and the ruling class of citizens in the “Jewish State” embrace and defend their own bigotry and callous disregard for the suffering of an entire people? By their own admission, it is Judaism.

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  14. nadine says:

    Apparently, the Left is appalled by political satire when applied to Erdogan, Assad and Ahmedinejad. They get the vapors and declare it “racist”. By what law are these men declared out-of-bounds? I was unaware that being lampooned as Pavarotti played into any racial stereotypes concerning either Turks, Arabs or Persians.

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  15. Carroll says:

    You really have to see this video to understand the sleezy mentality and culture behind it.
    And they are who congress looks to for the US ME policy?
    It gotten to the point where everything you hear and see from these people, their congressional minons and from Israel makes you want to go take a shower to wash off the filth.
    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/18/aipac_burns_bridges_–_sends_out_racist_anti-turk/.
    http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/06/18/aipac_burns_bridges_–_sends_out_racist_anti-turk/
    AIPAC Sends Out Racist Video ++AIPAC’s Private Email Praising It
    By M.J. Rosenberg – June 18, 2010, 1:00PM
    This video, second in a series of racist videos put out by Jerusalem Post writers, was today sent out to journalists by AIPAC, my favorite lobby. That’s it, folks. The lobby has written off Turkey which means Israel has, too.
    Andrew Sullivan posts the AIPAC email here.
    PERMALINK | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (32)
    84 Comments
    I am nearly speechless. Are the AIPAC and Israeli right wingers so filled with hate for everyone they are willing to risk having even their friends abandon them? This video is that offensive. This is sick and arrogant on a level you don’t see outside of the most radical right wing crap. What is wrong with these people?
    Posted by oleeb
    June 18, 2010 1:22 PM | Reply | Permalink
    These people have twisted themselves into such knots to avoid seeing what they and Israel have become that they are now talking out of the wrong orrifice and mistaking it for their mouths.
    Really, they are not only tone deaf, they are also blind. Too bad they aren’t dumb as well.
    Posted by Mimi katz in reply to a comment from oleeb
    June 18, 2010 6:35 PM | Reply | Permalink
    WOW!
    This is about as sick as it comes. We don’t need no stinkin’ bridges!
    Ironically this comes right after I learn that we actually have one. You mean that not all Muslims and Arabs are plotting jihad every waking moment? WHO KNEW?????
    Posted by sTiVo
    June 18, 2010 1:40 PM | Reply | Permalink
    Russia’s and China’s “Thank You” card to AIPAC is already in the mail!
    Posted by mythbuster
    June 18, 2010 2:59 PM | Reply | Permalink
    WOW was also my first reaction. It’s hard to believe that even AIPAC could associate themselves with this. What kind of cover did they send it out under?
    Posted by TonyG
    June 18, 2010 4:46 PM | Reply | Permalink

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  16. nadine says:

    JohnH, I think mosques should be able to put out their signs. I think synagogues should too. The synagogues in the Boston area now hire security guards on holidays, something they never used to do.
    Thank you btw for acknowledging Ahmedejad’s anti-Semitic statements, which are not his first and won’t be his last. He believes Jews are vermin and the Holocaust was a lie. He really believes the Mahdi is coming back Real Soon Now. These are the words and attitudes of a man who wants to finish what Hitler started. If he tries, the Jews will just have to manage without Paul’s accolades of “innocence” and defend themselves as best they can. The Israelis are not Jewish “supremacists” but Jewish “survivalists”. They’d like nothing better than an Iran which would leave them the fuck alone (the Persians say they have nothing much against the Jews; it’s the Arabs they can’t stand). Instead Ahmedinejad calls them insects, a cancer, subhuman. You think he gives a shit about the Palestinians? He’s doing it for his religion and Iran’s power in the Gulf.
    Paul, Netanyahu did not scream anti-Semitism, but hypocrisy. He said Israel is “guilty until proven guilty” in the eyes of the world. What do you expect him to say, when Israel puts out the video of commandos rappelling down to a ship to meet a mob just standing about, obviously not being fired upon, who then beat the commandos with iron bars and stab them and throw them off the deck? and when the commandos are forced to fire in self-defense, the world’s reaction (& this blog’s) is that Israel is murdering innocent peace activists? How many op-eds have I read calling the IHH agent provocateurs “basically peaceful”? The world is now issuing “try to kill as many Israelis as you like, just don’t succeed in high numbers, and it won’t count” cards.
    As for your being in bed with the Israel-haters, if you don’t understand your usefulness to them, then you lack self-awareness. Your ideology blinds you to Hamas’. You will believe anything of Hamas but that they say what they believe and believe what they say. You demand they be treated the same as if they were rational secular democrats. This helps them and hurts read moderates everywhere.

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  17. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “However, criticizing the Israeli government and its Jewish supremacist supporters is fair game, because they are a virulent faction, not representative of Judaism in general…..”
    Maybe that was true once. But it certainly doesn’t seem to be true today. It seems that the majority of Jews are content to lay back and let the Dershowitzes and the Nadines do their talking for them. And they also seem to be content with justifying, rationalizing, condoning, and bankrolling atrocities, crimes, racism, mass murder, collective punishment, torture, child imprisonment, and international assassinations. Have you ever seen this ghoul Nadine, or the pathetic bigot Dershowitz, admit to or apologize for any of this?

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  18. JohnH says:

    “I am surprised that commenters at TWN don’t feel alarmed confronted with the vocabulary of anti-Semitism”…or at the stereotypical denigration of Muslims in general and Palestinians in particular.
    Here in America people generally keep their antisemitism under wraps, though their are instances of bad behavior, which are usually publicized and generally condemned.
    But it’s pretty much open season on Muslims. In a big city near me, a large, nondescript mosque in a safe neighborhood is afraid to put out a sign identifying itself as a mosque. And it’s surrounded by fences topped with concertina wire for fear of vandalism.
    Nadine, what do think about that?

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  19. Paul Norheim says:

    “Such vile statements should not be made here or by
    Ahmadinejad.”
    Thanks, JohnH, for saying that.

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  20. ... says:

    paul, thanks for these follow up posts and your comments in general.. i agree with you for the most part… sorry for the confusion over my remark “even if many will continue to hide behind the coattails of whatever it is they hide behind to make or score a point”.. that was not in reference to poa, but to those who use the anti-semite label so regularly.. however, i think you are right to point out where comment’s here cross the line into an anti-semite area, or an anti-muslim area for that matter.. this stuff happens here .. we need clarity to reach beyond the polarized area that so much of the i/p issue has entered into..
    i also enjoy the balanced perspective of johnh here and in his 934pm post.. of course he is attacked in the same way you are ‘just out of nowhere’ for the most part.. one must move beyond the personal attacks…

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  21. Paul Norheim says:

    Nadine,
    For a very long time, but especially now, with Netanyahu
    and Lieberman in charge, Israeli governments, and US
    supporters of those governments, have screamed ANTI-
    SEMITISM! every time anyone has criticized Israel – i.e.
    treated the Israeli government like a normal state – like
    any other government in the world – open for criticism.
    This is of course understandable from the Israeli
    governments’ point of view: Using the anti-Semitism card
    and the Holocaust card to defend their actions and choices
    is a temptation hard to resist. But the bill for using this
    stuff to defend every controversial action is that everybody
    sees it for what it is: a card convenient to misuse for
    political purposes on any occasion when you’re attacked.
    This makes ignorant people with a lack of historical
    knowledge doubt the reality behind words like “anti-
    Semitism” and “Holocaust”. Aha – just propaganda!
    Personally, I regard a Holocaust II as a completely
    unrealistic scenario in the current historical context. In any
    possible war scenario in the Middle East today, Israel
    would not be involved as an *innocent* actor, and the
    outcome would not have any relation to Holocaust, but to
    the interaction of Israel with other actors in the region.
    And Israel has often been nasty in those interactions in the
    past – and up till now – so the “innocence” card is simply
    not credible.
    But anti-Semitism is very old, and still with us. And all of
    that can not be blamed on Israelis and Jews, as Carroll and
    POA seem to think. To be “a Jew” has always meant a lot of
    often contradictory things – especially after the birth of
    Zionism – and to imply “the Jews” on a general level in
    America or elsewhere to the decisions made in Israel just
    makes no sense.
    But to get to your point: Yes, to me it seems like many
    commenters at TWN just ignore the real anti-Semitism due
    to the misuse from several Israeli governments, but
    especially their American supporters in US congress and
    the lobbies and among the pundits in the media. And
    people like you on web sites, Nadine.
    I am surprised that commenters at TWN don’t feel alarmed
    confronted with the vocabulary of anti-Semitism. No one
    seem to react when Carroll raises the question of what to
    do with “them”, as he did in a resent comment.
    But I also have to say that the Israeli governments that you
    support 100 % are much to blame for making them so
    cynical and foolish.
    And you Nadine, have begged for this polarization with
    your language and your arguments. For example, and on a
    personal level, you’ve frequently accused me of being in
    bed with the Jew-haters. Just out of nowhere.

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  22. JohnH says:

    I agree with Paul Norheim’s point. I’ll even concede Nadine’s earlier point, which caught Ahmadinejad stereotyping all Jewish immigrants to Israel in particularly despicable ways (I actually went back to the fars/english website to check the veracity.) Such attitudes have no place in modern society. Such vile statements should not be made here or by Ahmadinejad.
    However, criticizing the Israeli government and its Jewish supremacist supporters is fair game, because they are a virulent faction, not representative of Judaism in general, like White supremacists do not represent Americans, or even Southerners, in general. Characterizing such criticism as “antisemitic” is an abuse of the term, usually intended to stifle criticism.

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  23. PissedOffAmerican says:

    As I’ve said, many times here; if Nadine, or Marcus, or Wig-wag, speaks for the Jews, if Israel’s actions are the actions of “A Jewish State”, if AIPAC is indictative of what we can expect from the Jews, if Dershowitz speaks for the Jews, then YES, color me anti-semitic.
    And Paul, once again, you have managed to help these propaganda slinging Firsters shift the focus AWAY from the despicable actions of The Jewish State, and turn the debate into one that paints US as the villains. I’m not shootin’ Jews in the head, but these “Israelis”, under the mantle of “A Jewish State”, are shooting Americans in the head. I’m not dumpin’ phosphorous on kids, THEY ARE. I’m not treating an entire population like dog shit, THEY ARE. I’m not making excuses or fabricating justifications for the atrocities our “leaders” commit in the name of the United States, but they certainly have a full script of excuses for the atrocities committed by “The Jewish State”, don’t they??
    And I’m the villain????
    Fuck ’em.

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  24. nadine says:

    “The point, however, if you haven’t noticed, is that some
    posters here are starting to insist on addressing “the Jews”
    in ways that are alarming”
    JohnH says that calling anything “anti-Semitism” is not legitimate, (he cites the usual leftist Israelis quite out of context) and you say you agree with him. Yet you say you are alarmed by the way people are addressing “the Jews”.
    You contradict yourself. JohnH is alarmed by nothing said against the Jews, on the contrary, he leads the pack baying against the Jews. If you are alarmed, you cannot agree with him.

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  25. Paul Norheim says:

    “even if many will continue to hide behind the coattails of
    whatever it is they hide behind to make or score a point”
    …, I disagree completely with that, if you refer to someone
    like POA.
    I like and respect POA, and he is certainly not the type to
    “hide behind the coattails of whatever”… My discussion with
    POA was, as usual, frank and civilized, and I do not question
    his general motives. I think I can also see how he is thinking
    on this issue – but I happen to think that his conclusions are
    wrong. Fundamentally wrong.
    As for commenters hiding behind the coattails,…, I can
    think of several posters here, but definitely not POA.

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  26. ... says:

    paul, thanks for taking the time to elaborate on this.. you make a very good point, even if many will continue to hide behind the coattails of whatever it is they hide behind to make or score a point… unfortunately this has become a regular phenomena as johnh points out with the anti-semite label.. thanks for responding to that one too!

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  27. Paul Norheim says:

    JohnH,
    I agree with everything you said in your last post (Jun 21
    2010, 7:26PM).
    The point, however, if you haven’t noticed, is that some
    posters here are starting to insist on addressing “the Jews”
    in ways that are alarming. (see the link in my comment
    above this one if you want to see what this is about).

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  28. Paul Norheim says:

    … said to me:
    “there was no ”’direct”’ comment from you… your post can
    be interpreted a number of ways, but i’m curious if you
    answered poa in the june 16th question he put to you?”
    …, I thought the quotes spoke for themselves, and that
    you and many others here were familiar with my position
    on this issue. But yes, I responded at least twice to POA’s
    question (“When does disgust with the Jews cease being
    “anti-semitism”, and become the truly moral position to
    assume?”):
    Response number 1: “Disgust with the Jews? True moral
    position? Come on, POA! That’s the point where legitimate
    moral outrage turns into something sinister, into
    blindness, and forgets the original moral impulse.”
    Response number 2: “Hey Carroll and POA, I don’t mind
    you two calling Schumer a JEW with capital letters. If you
    have fun doing so, go for it! The problem lies elsewhere,
    like for instance when POA starts asking questions like:
    “When does disgust with the Jews cease being “anti-
    semitism” […]”
    This is ABC, folks. “Disgust with the Jews” happens to be
    the proper definition of anti-Semitism, and this doesn’t
    change even if you two commenters managed to save the
    planet from World War 3 by screaming JEWS, JEWS, JEWS
    five times a day.
    […]
    Correction, due to possible connotations: four times a day
    (or eight).”
    —————————————
    That was at least a part of my response, in a long
    discussion about this issue on a thread below. In that
    discussion, POA and Carroll openly signaled that they
    intended to blame the Jews instead of the Israelis or the
    Israeli government. This is a significant change in rhetorics
    that I for both moral, intellectual, and tactical reasons
    strongly oppose, and you can read the discussion and
    parts of the context on that thread:
    http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2010/06/en
    d_the_siege_o/#comments
    or click on the comments for the “End of the Siege of
    Israel” post below – before it ends up in the archives. What
    happened there represented a turning point in the
    rhetorics of a particular group at TWN: openly admitted
    anti-Semitism somehow becoming acceptable, because it
    is “true” or whatever.
    Just to clarify: my comment above was not related to what
    Nadine said in her comment above mine, but should rather
    be read in the context of the discussion I linked to.
    ———————————
    … said: “the i/p issue is a very polarizing issue (…)
    however the way it has been painted to western audiences
    isn’t in line with what we are finding out thru less
    mainstream channels..”
    I agree if you talk about American audiences; the situation
    is very different in parts of Europe – like Scandinavia.
    But I see no point in screaming/blaming JEWS, JEWS, JEWS
    in an effort to create more balance in the context of US
    media – as POA and others here seem to think.

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  29. JohnH says:

    Ah yes, the well worn “antisemitism” argument. These kinds of smear tactics have become all too familiar. The charges would be a lot more credible if they weren’t coming from the Jewish supremacist camp.
    Most of us realize that the behavior of the Israeli government does not speak for Jews in general, only for a virulent faction. In fact, Peter Beinhart has pointed out that most young American Jews are alienated from Israel, again because of the behavior of the virulent faction.
    Uri Avnery pointed out that the Holocaust has been overused to the point that it has now lost its potency in arousing sympathy for Israel. Antisemitism is on the verge of losing its potency as well, debased by years of misuse by avid defenders of Israeli atrocities.
    It’s a shame, because real instances of antisemitism do occur and will occur in America. But people are more and more likely to disregard them, because Israel and its lobby have cried “Wolf” far too often.

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  30. ... says:

    paul – also this : dredging posts from the past can be informative, but also leave out much that would be gotten in the context they were made.. is this going to be a semi regular approach for you now? i really enjoy it when you communicate directly your thoughts on all these topics before us..

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  31. ... says:

    paul 6:26pm quote
    “I have no further comment.”
    there was no ”’direct”’ comment from you… your post can be interpreted a number of ways, but i’m curious if you answered poa in the june 16th question he put to you?
    alan k might like to share his thoughts here and he would be welcome.. rarely steve will respond to a question put to him, but i don’t think that is the general mandate he has set in motion with this blog.. we can all learn from others if we’re open to it..
    the i/p issue is a very polarizing issue.. i think there is a reason for that – it involves fanatics on both sides.. however the way it has been painted to western audiences isn’t in line with what we are finding out thru less mainstream channels.. people are getting fed up with the superficial portrayal of these events, as we witnessed in the flotilla event just past… people are actually starting to see a view that has been largely withheld from view via the mainstream media…
    it is difficult to know about new posters on this site just where they are in the learning curve of all of this, especially if they don’t volunteer any thoughts or position on any of this, but only choose to ask questions to the comment sections host..
    what are your thoughts, or is it possible for you to be a bit less opaque on this?

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  32. Paul Norheim says:

    Alan K said on this thread (Jun 21 2010, 3:50PM):
    This is a question for Steve:
    Why is your blog comment section dominated by people
    who are so virulently anti Israel and side with those who
    hate Jews? (…)
    ———————————————–
    JohnH said on this thread (Jun 21 2010, 4:22PM):
    Alan K: you might as well get used to it. (…)
    ————————————————
    Carroll said on another thread (Jun 19 2010, 2:11PM):
    (…) Interesting article but the thing is we already know
    what is wrong [with] Israel and the Jews. We are at the
    point now where the discussion should be about what to
    do about them. (…)
    ————————————————-
    POA said on another thread (Jun 21 2010, 4:36PM):
    (…) And, Steve, how do you feel about a commenter
    claiming that 80% of your commenters “hate Jews”. Is that
    your conclusion as well? (…)
    ————————————————-
    POA said on another thread (Jun 16 2010, 9:47PM)
    (…) Paul, when does disgust with the Jews cease being
    “anti-semitism”, and become the truly moral position to
    assume? Its a terrifying question, bound to be widely and
    loudly opposed. But it needs to be asked (…).
    ———————————————–
    I have no further comment.

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  33. nadine says:

    Alan K, one can only presume that Steve Clemons doesn’t really mind the Israel-bashing and Jew-hatred that dominates his blog.
    Which to my way of thinking, casts doubt on the veracity of his seeming even-handedness. If you add up the large numbers of anti-Israel, pro-Erdogan and pro-Iran posts on this blog, it seems reasonable to conclude that he sides with Flynt Leverett in hoping to jettison former American allies like Saudi Arabia and Israel in favor of a new ‘grand alliance’ with Iran. As insane as that seems, that seems to be where he is heading. Of course, it only makes sense if you totally exclude ideology from the picture, which the Far Left habitually does these days.

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  34. nadine says:

    JohnH, Memri is posting translations.
    “Translations” in case you are unfamiliar with the word, means they render in English articles that are available to the public in other languages. So if they make stuff up, it should be child’s play to look up the original article and point it out what it really said, or if it wasn’t there — and yet nobody has ever done that, beyond nitpicking the translation of a certain word here or there.
    That’s because they can’t.
    And your ‘credible source’ is the propagandist Finkelstein. Figures.

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  35. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “….the numbers of lies you post are numberless”
    For example, Nadine? Point out one of my “lies”, and I will make my best effort to collaborate whatever premise or assertion you take exception to.
    The truth is, Nadine, that almost this entire blog community knows you as a liar and a bigot, and have taken you to task for it on numerous, almost daily, occassions.
    As to the despicable disingenuous Nadine, who has taken it upon herself to aid in dragging The Jewish State into disfavor with the world community; MEMRI is hardly a credible source for translations, as is well known. Newsmax, DEBKA, MEMRI, these are the common “sources” cited by Nadine. Its interesting that no reputable or even mainstream news source has been heralding such a statement from Ahmadinejad, as they would be sure to do if such a statement could be proven to have been made.
    And, Steve, how do you feel about a commenter claiming that 80% of your commenters “hate Jews”. Is that your conclusion as well?
    Alan K, who seemingly has NOTHING to add to the debate, is content to ignore the multitude of SOURCED assertions that have been made here in regards to The Jewish State’s policies, crimes, abuses and atrocities, in order to launch the timeworn accusation of “anti-semitism” at 80% of Steve’s commenting readers. No doubt he will be another shoot-and-run commenter, that dare not face the prospect of actual debate about The Jewish State’s policies, lest he be exposed as just another empty headed victim of a carefully managed false narrative.
    Interesting that Alan doesn’t show up with his indignation when Wig-wag is advocating carpet bombing Gaza, Nadine is busy telling us how fortunate the well fed and unmolested Palestinians are to be given the opportunity to live under The Jewish State’s heavy hand, and Marcus is accusing posters of sodomy with Arab men and “sucking Arafat’s dick”.

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  36. JohnH says:

    Alan K: you might as well get used to it. There’s lots more to come. Netanyahu will soon need to defend the IDF’s “freedom to act” and kill a lot of unarmed civilians. Likud behavior is Israel’s own worst enemy.

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  37. Alan K says:

    This is a question for Steve:
    Why is your blog comment section dominated by people who are so virulently anti Israel and side with those who hate Jews? The ratio is at least 5 to 1. I can’t figure it out since you are generally even handed in your analysis and opinions.

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  38. JohnH says:

    Nadine’s citation would be credible if MEMRI wasn’t an arm of Israeli propaganda. Norman Finkelstein notes that “Although widely used in the mainstream media as a source of information on the Arab world, it is as trustworthy as Julius Streicher

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  39. nadine says:

    I owe you nothing, you POS. the numbers of lies you post are numberless. But here is the statement. I don’t know why you object, since you agree with Ahmadinejad. BTW Ahmadinejad still hates America, so you have two points of agreement:
    In a June 16, 2010 speech in the city of Shahre-Kord, in central Iran near Isfahan, Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad reiterated his anti-Semitic world view, calling the Jews the worst of criminals and claiming that they only appear to be human. Ahmadinejad also hinted at his apocalyptic outlook, saying that whoever relies on God’s might need fear no one. He added that his regime is consistently and successfully acting to change the world order and spelled out his government’s new mission

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  40. PissedOffAmerican says:

    But fortunately for the truth, we no longer need these cowards wearing false ID’s labeled “Press Corps”.
    The days of relying on Fox News, MSNBC, CNN, The Los Angeles Times, The New York Times, etc. are over. We now can choose from a full global range of sources, eventually weeding out those that prove themselves to be decieving us.
    Who dares trust these lying bastards in the American media complex that were so unquestioning as Bush, Cheney, and their satanic band of right wing neo-conmen and Zio-fascists marched this nation into ruin, perpetual war, and what may well be a march to world war and nuclear holocaust??
    One can only imagine what incentive The Jewish State was given to launch this media marketing camnpaign known as “The Easing Of The Gaza Blockade”. Did we agree to nix an international investigation of the flottilla massacre, in exchange for Israel pretending to make another “concession” that is designed to paint the unrealistic picture of testicles hanging from Obama’s lanky frame?
    Watch closely, through the eyes of the foreign media, as The Jewish State’s latest “concession” is exposed as just another lie marketed by an organized Hasbara blitz, disingenuous and mewling “White House Statements” such as is exhibited above, and a total dearth of responsible and honest investigative reporting by the cowed, bribed, and blackmailed members of the “Fourth Estate”.

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  41. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Rabbi who went after Helen Thomas has supported ethnic cleansing”
    Its obvious to anyone with two brain cells to rub together that Thomas was set up by this racist rabbi and whoever his handlers are.
    The timing for Thomas’s execution is interesting, coming right on the heels of her questioning Obama about The Jewish State’s not so clandestine nuclear weapons arsenal.
    Considering The Jewish State’s act of agression in executing Americans on the high seas, and their attempted executions of Americans in the West Bank, coupled with their lies about ceasing settlement expansion, and this sham of an “investigation” about the commission of international crimes on the high seas, (and now this bullshit about “easing” the blockade, which will be one more fuckin’ scam foisted upon us by The Jewish State and its subservient factotums in the White House, State Department, and Congress), when has it been more important to have a TRUE Fourth Estate questioning the motives and aims of these pieces of shit supposedly “representing” the American people???
    Thomas was held up as a “See what can happen to you if you challenge The Jewish State” just as surely as Rather was gelded for daring to tell the truth about this cowardly AWOL coke sniffing little jerk-off monkey known as “George Bush”.
    Truth is, our so called “journalists” in the pathetic machine masquerading as a “Fourth Estate” are so fuckin’ cowed by Washington that they have little choice but to stick to the script, lest they be ostracized, shut out, and humiliated by the bacteria that has infected Washington DC. Or worse, if attempting to cover events abroad, such as in Palestine, they might just find themselves on the wrong end of a sniper’s scope, or used as target practice by some racist little IDF punk wielding a tear gas rifle.

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  42. JohnH says:

    It looks like constant evocation of the Holocaust has lost it effectiveness and no longer serve Israeli purposes of masking and justifying their own atrocities: “For two generations, our foreign policy used the Holocaust as its main instrument. The bad conscience of the world determined its attitude towards Israel. The (justified) guilty feelings

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  43. ... says:

    Rabbi who went after Helen Thomas has supported ethnic cleansing
    http://mondoweiss.net/2010/06/rabbi-who-went-after-helen-thomas-has-supported-ethnic-cleansing.html
    Helen Thomas has been rightfully criticized for her comments to you. Yet you are on record at your website supporting the ethnic cleansing of Palestinians without a word of criticism from any journalist I’ve read. You wrote:
    “So after the Holocaust in the late 1940s it was a (sic) natural for the Jews to go back there– to their land and reclaim it again. And with the world feeling really guilty right after the Holocaust it made it that much easier to get the land back and kick out hundreds of thousands of Arabs who were living there and dwelling peacefully with their families and loved ones. But it was ours first as it was promised to us by G-d in the Torah so we have a claim to it. And that

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  44. PissedOffAmerican says:
  45. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “when he says the Jews “only look like humans”, as he did the other day”
    Please give us the source for this quote. As usual, I think you are lying, or giving us a mistranslation fed to you by these lying sacks of shit framing the narrative for The Jewish State.
    Or you simply made it up, which is certainly part of your standard schpiel.

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  46. Tony C. says:

    “Plus Gaza still gets its water and electricity partly from Israel. ”
    Right. Israel sharing its own abundant water resources with the
    palestinians. That’s rich.
    Nadine at her best.

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  47. JohnH says:

    It must be frustrating for Jewish supremacists to encounter a space where their views are not automatically swallowed hook, line and sinker. Comment sections like this are very different from “reporting” in the mainstream media.
    The more people speak out in the face of charges of antisemitism and the more they list specific examples of Israeli brutality, the more likely the sway of the supremacists will lose its grip. Others will begin to speak out, too.
    Of course, the Israeli government helps make the case against itself every time it commits a sensational act of senseless brutality, like the Mavi Marmara executions or Operation Cast Lead in Gaza.
    For some reason, the American people need constant repetition of a narrative for it to take hold. The Israeli victimization narrative predominated for years. Now the din of constant, senseless Israeli brutality is starting to pierce the American consciousness, making people realize that the supremacists are not the victims but the victimizers.
    It may take a while yet, but Jewish supremacy is on course to suffer the same fate as American White supremacy and Afrikaner supremacy.

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  48. Cee says:

    I was just reading that some US naval ships are in the area. I hope Israel doesn’t attack them and blame on on Hamas or their other enemies of choice.

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  49. rc says:

    “Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas and Prime Minister Salam Fayyad.” (Office of the Press Secretary) — so they have had elections there recently have they?
    I thought Abbas’ term ended some time ago?
    and let’s face it, that’s probably a $350m gift to his cronies and $50m to Israel to pay for Gaza’s power and water bill!
    “As we approach the fourth anniversary of the capture of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, we call again for his immediate release, and condemn the inhumane conditions of his detention.” — as above, what about the thousands of Palestinians locked up including democratically elected government officials. Just another Gitmo Bay scenario it seems.
    Then we get nadine’s little quip: “… a unique historical situation: supplying so much food and supplies to an enemy statelet that intends to …” — no nardine, Gaza is a prison camp, little different except in scale to the British atrocities in the Boer War. As such, Israel is responsible for the care and maintenance of their prisoners of war. Who’s paying the bill? Uncle Sam no doubt.

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  50. nadine says:

    “”We urge all those wishing to deliver goods to do so through established channels … ”
    Established by whom?” (Dan Kervick)
    Israel and Egypt, of course. You’d never know it by the caterwauling, but 10,000 tons a week of aid is trucked in from Israel to Gaza. Plus Gaza still gets its water and electricity partly from Israel. When you think about it, it’s a unique historical situation: supplying so much food and supplies to an enemy statelet that intends to kill you and keeps shooting at you. But that is the conundrum the “international community” has forced Israel into (some, like your fellow lefties, unwittingly, others purposefully). Hamas’ motivation is religious and nothing will make them stand down save for an almighty drubbing, which they devote themselves to preventing, the better to have more generations raised in Hamas schools, taught to become suicide bombers and kill Jews for Allah. Thus do the peaceniks work diligently for the terrorists.
    “Its reached the point where they are reluctant to incite debate” (POA)
    We’re not pulling our punches, you P.O.S., we just are waiting to see if there is somebody who is leftist but still rational to talk to, which lets you out, and Carroll, and the other avowed Israel-bashers, anti-Semites and Hamas-supporters who now dominate this blog’s comments section. I can sometimes talk to Dan Kervick. You seem to have run off questions and Sweetness.
    You really should go join the thugs of the Basij and cheer Ahmedinejad when he says the Jews “only look like humans”, as he did the other day. That’s your speed; you buy into all the conspiracy nonsense Ahmedinejad spouts.

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  51. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Netanyahu Vows to

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  52. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “What’s that all about?”
    Its reached the point where they are reluctant to incite debate, because all debate does is expose further lies, atrocities, abuses, and crimes committed by The Jewish State. Further,the corrosive and previously unchallenged influence of the various Pro-Jewish State lobby organizations and groups is now being shown the light of day, and the efforts of these bigots like Marcus or Nadine are actually AIDING in this process by encouraging debate.
    In short, they’re screwed. The Jewish State’s actions and policies can no longer hide behind a complicit and compliant media machine. The internet has changed all that. They stand exposed before the global community, as do our cowardly bought-and-paid-for “representatives” that have become little more than factotums to The Jewish State.

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  53. JohnH says:

    Looks like all the Jewish supremacists at this site (Nadine, Wig, marcus) decided to pull their punches this weekend. What’s that all about?

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  54. hasbarassassin says:

    The Red Cross and Israeli MPs prevented from knowing location of secret prison
    Friday, 18 June 2010 17:34
    It now seems clear that the Red Cross and, indeed, members of Israel’s parliament, are being stopped by Israeli intelligence services from finding out the location of what has been called a “secret prison”. The MP for the Democratic Front for Peace and Equality, Dr. Dov Hanin, has filed an enquiry to the Israeli Internal Security Minister, Yitzhak Aheronovic, regarding an unidentified prisoner at Ayalon Prison, Department 15. The prisoner, whose details were referred to on the Ynet website, and then quickly removed, has been held in total isolation and prevented from having visits or giving any information about himself to the officers who guard him. Nobody claims any knowledge of the reasons for the said prisoner to be in this situation.
    Dr. Hanin wondered, in his enquiry to the minister, about the identity of the prisoner and the reason for the total information blackout and his complete isolation from the outside world. He also asked about the lack of access to rights which are guaranteed for any prisoner under Israeli law, including whether this prisoner’s family has been informed of his whereabouts. The MP refused to accept the concept of the state holding a prisoner of unknown identity.
    The enquiries being made about this particular prisoner are reminiscent of recent calls in the media for a disclosure of information about “secret” prisons in Israel the existence of which has long been denied by the government, which has also sought to hide them from international observers such as the Red Cross. The calls for more transparency were made following the publication of a report by the UN Committee against Torture.
    Yediot Aharonot newspaper published what looked like a prisoner identification card for “1391 secret prison”, which was a base used as an investigation office at military unit 504 associated with the Intelligence Department of the Israeli army. The task of the unit is to recruit and investigate terrorists and soldiers of hostile armies captured by the Israel Defence Forces. According to Yediot Aharonot, the secret prison was set up in an investigation section in Unit 504 in Gdera city in the south of the country. For many years, the department was a centre for investigating the perpetrators of the famous coast operation and the Palestinians who tried to blow up an El Al aircraft at Nairobi airport. In the 1980s, the secret prison was transferred to a building built for this purpose near another base for high-security intelligence operations. The newspaper said that the prison has rooms deep underground and soldiers from the military police provide all the logistics services at this facility, such as the transfer of detainees to and from the prison and from their cells to the interrogation rooms.
    The most prominent case linked to this secret prison, according to the report, was the interrogation of the Lebanese former prisoner, Mustafa Dirani. Mr. Dirani was tortured severely during the interrogation, when he was beaten, forced to walk wearing an adult “nappy” and forced to swallow triangular objects; he was also anally raped. The army was forced to investigate this case as a result of which the chief investigator, a man known as George, was dismissed.
    continues……

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  55. PissedOffAmerican says:

    http://www.ifamericansonlyknew.org/stats/prisoners.html
    1 Israeli is being held prisoner by Palestinians, while 7,383 Palestinians are currently imprisoned by Israel.

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  56. Jackie says:

    “As we approach the fourth anniversary of the capture of Israeli soldier Gilad Shalit, we call again for his immediate release, and condemn the inhumane conditions of his detention.”
    Does this mean the “inhumane conditions” because he is being held by Palestinians? What about the inhumane conditions the Palestinians are being held in by the government of Israel.

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  57. ... says:

    Protesters at Port of Oakland picket Israeli ship..
    this story is from this morning, but apparently they were going to do the same around 530pm pdt as well..

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  58. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Established by whom?”
    Good point.
    Besides, I thought the “established channels” were the problem, not the solution.
    I think its time to stop refering to “Israel” when describing crimes, human rights abuses, and the egregious atrocities, committed daily, against the Palestinian people. From here on out, I intend to extend Israel a great courtesy, and call their country exactly what they want their country to be called; A Jewish State.
    It is a “Jewish State” that dumps white phosphorous on women and children.
    It is a “Jewish State” that rains millions of cluster bomblets on urban centers and farmlands, targeting women and especially children in an act of horrible collective punishment.
    It is a “Jewish State” that executes people on the high seas, in foreign lands, and while people are engaged in peaceful protest.
    It is a “Jewish State” that targets American warships and murders American sailors.
    It is a “Jewish State” that commits regular acts of espionage against the United States, steals our weapons and industrial technology, and sells it to the highest bidder.
    It is a “Jewish State” that maintains a clandestine and unmonitored nuclear weapons arsenal that has fueled proliferation and provided the incentive for nations like Iran to possibly develop weapons technology.
    It is a “Jewish State” that maims and murders American citizens in the West Bank and on the high seas.
    But lets not get anti-semitic.

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  59. ... says:

    go thru the established channels or get labeled a terrorist.. it is pretty cut and dry isn’t it? interesting how the usa seems quite happy with this approach that israel is taking, including the format for defining the rules of the game…fortunately the world is waking up to the con job and are pushing back…
    http://transportworkers.org/

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  60. Dan Kervick says:

    “We urge all those wishing to deliver goods to do so through established channels … ”
    Established by whom?

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  61. JohnH says:

    Ho hum…sweet words (Obama’s signature capability.) But will there be any action?
    Or will the aid consist of another $400 million aid package to Israel, to be delivered to Gaza according to the whims of the Jewish supremacists?

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  62. ... says:

    we find out much more from the israel press then we could ever from this slavish american political and media mentality that always bows to israel.. when will the slavishness end?????

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  63. ... says:

    just a bunch of smoke and mirrors bullshit steve… and for further acts of misconduct and worse check this out.. what is it with this country israel that is so hostile towards others????? what is it with the usa that it always goes to bat for them regardless of the constant inhumanity of their actions?
    Palestinian Jerusalemites go work abroad and get residency revoked upon return
    http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/features/palestinian-jerusalemites-go-work-abroad-and-get-residency-revoked-upon-return-1.297136

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  64. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Israel announces let-up to Gaza siege – but only in English
    Prime Minister’s office issues two statements, one in English announcing plan to ease blockade, one in Hebrew omitting to mention the decision.
    By Barak Ravid
    The Prime Minister’s Office announced on Thursday that the security cabinet had agreed to relax Israel’s blockade on the Gaza Strip, but as it turns out, no binding decision was ever made during the cabinet meeting.
    The Prime Minister’s Office issued a press release in English following the meeting, which was also sent to foreign diplomats, was substantially different than the Hebrew announcement

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  65. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Israel Closes Gaza Trade Crossings
    Saturday June 19, 2010 01:06 by Saed Bannoura –
    IMEMC & Agencies
    Despite Israel

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  66. PissedOffAmerican says:

    I see. So these pieces of shit in the White House and State Department are going to aid Israel in lying to the American people. Never mind that the Hebrew language offical “announcement” is completely different thanm the one in English, composed for consumption by these fuckin’ ignorant rubes in the United States, eh? Never mind that just Yesterdasy Israel closed many of the crossings into Gaza.
    How fuckin’ stupid do Clinton and Obama think we are?

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