Zimbabwe on the Verge of Collapse

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This is what state failure looks like. Zimbabwe is in everyone’s backyard. In an increasingly interconnected world, cooperating to help Zimbabwe pull itself together is in everyone’s interest.
Everyone ought to read the International Crisis Group’s important report.
— Scott Paul

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12 comments on “Zimbabwe on the Verge of Collapse

  1. Willy says:

    From http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article18284.htm
    I quote:
    “”When Ronald Reagan was asked to justify his administration’s trade embargo against Nicaragua in 1985 he said, “the policies and actions of Nicaragua constitute an unusual and extraordinary threat to the national security and foreign policy of the United States.”
    Does this quotation ring a bell to Zimbabweans?
    It should, given that both Condoleeza Rice and George W. Bush have almost repeated it verbatim in their attempt to justify the so-called Zimbabwe Democracy and Economic Recovery Act (2001), a sanctions law that bars multilateral lending institutions, with dealings with the US, from extending lines of credit to Zimbabwe.
    It also bars American companies from trading with Zimbabwe.””
    This shows the US is NOT interested in a peaceful solution of the horrible situation in Zimbabwe. They DO want Zimbabwe to fail, to collapse.

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  2. Carroll says:

    Posted by JohnH at September 20, 2007 09:23 PM
    >>>>>>>>
    I agree and we are already knee deep in the begining of an economic meltdown. I noticed long ago that it takes the public six months to catch on to economic trends or events, whether good or bad, so we are always already into a down or up turn before the public reacts.
    I don’t know, I think an attack on Iran is still 50-50 and just waiting for that incident to set it off.
    It doesn’t take much to tilt Bush off his rocker. So despite what Steve relays about Bush’s current thinking, Bush is subject to change every day.

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  3. JohnH says:

    Carroll, I agree that Bush would dearly love to attack Iran. The real crux of the issue is the cost of the attack, which Steve refuses to elaborate on. And of course, the costs may well relate directly to oil dependency, which he steadfastly ignores as the issue driving the whole thing.
    In an interesting follow-up letter post at Salon, Bandar says: “By now, the Iranians have most likely told the Saudis that any attack on Iran will result in an attack on the Saudi oil infrastructure.
    This will result in a massive disruption of oil production and a spike in world oil prices. The U.S. and the world cannot afford such a scenario, especially as Iran will be one of the beneficiaries of a jump in oil prices.
    The Saudis know that Iran is fully capable of delivering on such a threat. With their close relationship to Bush, it’s likely that they have already told Bush not to attack Iran.”
    Could the Iranians deliver on such a threat? Can the Bushies be absolutely certain that they can’t?
    Any miscalculation here could be accompanied by an economic meltdown that would make Bush unambiguously the worst President ever, past and future, destroying any hopes he had for a positive legacy.
    A significant spike in oil prices at this juncture would be devastating. The world economy and financial system are much more fragile than generally acknowledged. Foreign central banks are the only thing that is keeping the dollar from a free fall. Now the foreign central banks have to contend with protecting the system from the sub-prime fall out as well. Last week there was a run by depositors on Britain’s Northern Rock Bank, reminiscent of the Great Depression.
    Extensive destruction of the Persian Gulf oil infrastructure would spell an end to US primacy and to Western prosperity.
    Would the Iranians act on mutually assured destruction? Well, they have seen what happened to Saddam and the Ba’athists, and they have to know that a US attack would be a prelude to their going to meet their maker. So what do they have to lose? (IMHO Bush made a critical mistake by not sending Saddam and the Ba’ath leadership to a cushy retirement somewhere.)
    Is Bandar’s line of thinking delusional? Is it the result of an over-active imagination? Can Bush be sure?

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  4. Carroll says:

    Posted by Sandy at September 20, 2007 02:26 PM
    Posted by JohnH at September 20, 2007 01:12 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I just went over and read it..puzzling.
    It won’t be Bush?…but would be Cheney or Ahmadinejad? ……
    “We should also worry about the kind of scenario David Wurmser floated, meaning an engineered provocation. An “accidental war” would escalate quickly and “end run,” as Wurmser put it, the president’s diplomatic, intelligence and military decision-making apparatus. It would most likely be triggered by one or both of the two people who would see their political fortunes rise through a new conflict — Cheney and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. ”
    I don’t see Ahmadinejad as being the one to create an incident. He is having to much fun frustrating the US to death. And Cheney’s “polital fortunes”? Cheney doesn’t have any political “fortunes” or future left. Cheney is more despised than Bush and what’s more Cheney doesn’t care. He is happy in his little pyscho world. So what the hell is that about?
    If a war is started Bush has to order it. If a war is started it will be started by one of Israel’s usual false flag ploys. If a war is started it will be because congress will jump to commit the US to defend Israel and they have assured Israel they will.
    Steve needs a long vacation away from DC. He should go to some quiet place away from the wonkers to clear his head and think through in outline form every single person involved in our march to Iraq and the ME, and every single event, and every single word and action by Israel and the US and evry single word and action by this congress and who has benefited from all of it and who has lost becuase of it if he wants to say what is likely to happen on Iran.
    Nothing we have seen indicates that those in the WH or Israel give a rats ass about the cost to the US in blood or money….Bush may have had his rosey picture of the US easily wiping out Iran rained on a bit but that doesn’t mean he gives a damn about the blowback to this country or who will suffer for it or that he can control his own ego well enough to forgo attacking another axis of evil as his curtin call.
    The rich have gotten richer, the US treasury has gotten poorer, Israel’s treasury has gotten richer, Iraqis and US troops and Palestines have gotten deader.
    I am afraid Steve may have to eat the title of his article. I think the only thing that will stop an attack on Iran is a refusal or revolt by the military commanders.

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  5. Sandy says:

    Possibly because it has received so much negative reaction. I thought it was quite odd myself. Especially since — in another item he posted here about a week ago — he SAID he was writing an article on Iran….and we’d see it soon. He meant on Salon.com and not HERE? Why not post it in both places?
    What’s this blog for then?
    Never mind. After reading that article, I know now, sadly. (And to think I sent him 100 bucks!) Live and learn!

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  6. JohnH says:

    Why hasn’t Steve informed his blog about his piece about Iran over at Salon.com?

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  7. Wily says:

    And, mr. Clemons, guess who was, among others, responsible for pushing Zimbabwe towards the verge of collapse ? It was not only mr. Mugabe who is resposible. Another party who bears resposibility for the dismal situation in Zimbabwe is the current neocon Bush & Co. administration. Do these republican guys really want to destabilize the entire world ? Can you start to comprehend, mr Clemons, that the current administration is, to put it mildly, not too popular in the rest of the world ?

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  8. Carroll says:

    Here is something you can do something about.
    Defend Cong. Moran from AIPAC Media Attacks
    by Rabbi Michael Lerner
    Wed Sep 19, 2007 at 11:51:55 AM PDT
    We ask you to contact Congressman Hoyer and Congressman Cantor to let them know your feelings about the issues below (call (202) 224-3121 and ask for their offices, and then call Congressman Jim Moran at (202) 225-4376) to indicate your support for his stance in Tikkun). Your call to these people will actually make an impact!
    Update: We have just learned that Congressman Waxman is circulating a petition demanding Congressman Moran apologize for his comments in Tikkun. Please call Waxman at (202) 225-3976 voicing your support for Moran!
    It took tremendous courage for Congressman Jim Moran to tell Tikkun magazine of the power and influence of AIPAC and other sections of the Israel Lobby. AIPAC is often described in the media as the most powerful lobby in Washington, D.C., so it is no surprise that its friends and supporters are now mobilizing to vilify Congressman Moran’s comments in the Sept/Oct issue of Tikkun.
    Rabbi Michael Lerner’s diary :: ::
    http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/9/19/14364/2409
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    HELP CLEAN OUT OUR GOVERNMENT AND SAVE AMERICA.
    DO IT.

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  9. Carroll says:

    So Zimbabwe is collapsing. Terrible, but what do you think the US can do about it after ignoring it for so long in favor of Isr’merica empire wur’s in the ME?
    I got news for you, the US isn’t going to be able to do much of anything for much longer.
    “Fears of dollar collapse as Saudis take fright”
    By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor
    Last Updated: 8:39am BST 20/09/2007
    Saudi Arabia has refused to cut interest rates in lockstep with the US Federal Reserve for the first time, signalling that the oil-rich Gulf kingdom is preparing to break the dollar currency peg in a move that risks setting off a stampede out of the dollar across the Middle East.
    China threatens ‘nuclear option’ of dollar sales
    continued at..
    http://tinyurl.com/2nprvz
    >>>>>>>>>>
    Just consider this another f****** I told you so.
    And Washington continues right on as if our financial condition has no effect on their grand wur plans as masters of the universe and all the delicious campaign promises of tax cuts and health care. Still spending, still posturing still spinning, still pandering, still oblivious to reality.
    I would say……..BURN THEM TO THE GROUND.
    But too late now.
    Beats the hell out of me how they thought the rest of the world would go along with our insanity forever.
    Happy landings.

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  10. kyle says:

    we should focus on that instead of iraq
    Hypocrite Hillary(DC Experience Matters?JFK & Bill HAD LIL
    This Video Is Showing That Hillary is a hypocrite for saying obama has no experience
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBy3AKn_2Fk

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  11. rapier says:

    This is the wrong place I know but in regard to Iran……….. I think in the end the reason why we won’t is the price of oil, and the economy.
    Inflation is on the verge of raging. The price of oil is inflated on, among other things, speculation of an Iranian attack by us. The markets could well crack under the strain if oil even temporarily shot over 100, which is entirely possible in such a scenario.
    The move by the Fed today insures more inflation. Think about it, there was not one mention of inflation even as oil set a new all time record high. Ag commodities are on fire upward, Gold is now over $720. The dollar is at a new all time low. Amid all this not one word about inflation.
    Why, because keeping financial asset prices up is more important to the system, by far. It’s a dangerous game that has to be played to keep the staus quo. . In order to play it well a drop in oil would be a great weapon. If Bush screws this up there will be hell to pay economically. The move today by the Fed should be interpreted as a message that things are far worse than all the soothing talk is letting on.

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