You Heard it Here

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Joe Biden is the Vice Presidential running mate of Barack Obama.
Huge congratulations Joe — this is one of the great moves of the Obama campaign, one that could have gone wrong — and they got it very right.
— Steve Clemons

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34 comments on “You Heard it Here

  1. Kathleen says:

    POA… a spouse in every house….Dan K….at best it’ll be a squeeeeeeker……

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  2. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “BTW, does anybody know how many houses Romney owns?”
    Well, I’m sure its less than the number of wives he’d have if we’d let ‘im.

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  3. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Somebody around here needs to get his facts straight — it was Georgia who moved into breakaway South Ossetia first and Russia responded.”
    Gosh, you mean the “liberal media” is lying to us??? Quick, someone tell Rush Limbaugh.

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  4. Linda says:

    Steve, congrats on what influence you had in stopping Bayh.
    There isn’t such a thing as a “perfect” ticket only the better one. And this one is better than Democrats had in 2004 or even 2000 since Lieberman has proved how being pro-Israel trumps everything else for him. But I also think it’s a ticket that will fight back hard against the dirtiest campaigning inclding this time going after Jerome Corsi and totally discrediting his books.
    Biden surely can help in PA and with Reagan Democrats and Catholic voters, and they outnumber evangelicals in the states needed to win. And he is pro-choice.
    I’m not thrilled about MNBA and credit card/financial services deregulation–lots of it done by Clinton–but as VP Biden won’t be representing DE but entire country. I wasn’t thrilled with how he handled the Clarence Thomas confirmation hearings, but we will have better Supreme Court nominations from Obama than from McCain. And that’s good enough for me.
    Also Michelle and Jill will be great on the campaign trail. And I’ve followed Linda Douglas’ career since she was a local TV reporter, and she’d be one of the most qualified and smartest press secretaries ever.
    BTW, does anybody know how many houses Romney owns?

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  5. Bill says:

    Dan, as I recall, George Bush only beat McCain because he and Rove were bold enough to bring up to S. Carolina voters that McCain had an unaccounted for Negro child in his family that Cindy likely conceived during one of her lost weekends.
    Well placed “Negro” ads placed by McCain/Rove in the final week of the campaign will be enough to swing key States into McCain’s camp for a narrow victory.
    Anything to win; anything for Bush/Rove to beat McCain; anything for McCain/Rove to beat Obama.
    This is Our Country.

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  6. Dan Kervick says:

    Well, I expect the Democrats to win, Kathleen. And in the end I suspect they will win handily. The campaign has not really begun to cook yet, and has been in the summer prep period. And John McCain has never really had to endure any kind of serious challenge in this race. As the talk gets more blunt, and as McCain is less able to hide behind the staff which insulates him from the many gaffes and senior moments that are testified to by the reporters who are on the campaign bus, it will emerge how utterly clueless, and emotionally and intellectually ill-equipped, John McCain is to be president. This “forgetting how many houses he has” business is just the beginning. Remember, even George Bush beat this guy, and that was when McCain was more at the top of his game.
    And by the way, though this is probably disappointing for Steve to contemplate, this race is going to be decided on the economy, not foreign policy. Foreclosures and collapsing real estate prices; bankruptcies; soaring food and fuel costs; a crushing debt burden – that’s what is happening in this country. John McCain is a superannuated, spaced-out, gigolo, pretty-boy fly-boy whose heiress wife keeps the checkbook and keeps him accessorized with multiple houses, closets full of fancy Italian shoes, slick cars he doesn’t even know the name of, drivers and maids. The only thing McCain knows about either personal or national finance, or real estate dealing, he probably learned from Charles Keating when he was taking his bribes. This is the guy American’s want managing the American household budget during tough times?

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  7. Henry says:

    We waited two months for this? JOE BIDEN is an insufferable blow hard (and didn’t he plagerize speeches a while back?). Joe Biden won’t help OBAMA carry a single state. This pick is a cipher. McCain has a real opportunity here: if he picks someone for his VP who is really good, likable, charismatic, it might change the dynamic of the race. Henry.

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  8. Spunkmeyer says:

    Good job Steve. Congratulations.

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  9. Kathleen says:

    Dan Kervick… what we can expect is to lose… elections with razor thin margins are so much easier to steal or rig….that’s if we have another election, instead of another 9/11…..
    If there is any change coming out of Denver, it will be from the Rules Committee, just as it did in 1968…I’ve said before that some accomplish more in defeat than others do in victory….in 1968, it was the McCarthy supporters who got the nominating process changed from mostly conventions to mostly primaries, with caucuses being a half way between the two processes.
    In those states which nominated by convention, the delegates to the State conventions were chosen by election by the Town Committees, attended mostly by only the party machinery. and an unobtusive legal notice in the paper of when it would occur.
    I learned this in CT. where we had a State convention, chaired by John Bailey, who was also the National Chairman of the party. McCarthy supporters had to force primaries/caucuses town by town. There was no set date for when the 169 Town Committee’s should do this, so there was no way to launch a statewide campaign for this..it was too late in most of the towns by the time we figured out the nominating process, but still we won 25% of the delegates. not enough to elect the slate of delegates to Chiciago, but enough to force Bailey into giving us proportional representation on the slate to Chicago.. 9 seats. . we got relegated to the Rules Committee and changed the election laws.
    This time “caucuses” will be a thing of the past…. because they do not afford equal opportunity to participate to every voter and they provide a loophole for party bosses, like Teddy to call the shots. If there was a primary in Iowa in 2004, Howard Dean would have been the nomineee, not who Teddy wanted..who packed the caucuses..
    Hillary may not be on the ticket, but her supporters will end caucuses….so everyone can participate in the nominating process…..
    I bet my friend Anne Wexler that Obama would be smart enough to nominate Hillary…she’s a close friend of Hillary’s and Steve, tooo….she voted against me.. if I had won the bet, she agreed to write something/comment for Steve’s site. I think Steve should ask Anne to write something anyway. on party rules and election laws.
    Article about Anne Wexler
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0307/3247.html

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  10. barnstormer says:

    Yeah, but none of you above who don’t like Biden are Real Americans who vote for the ticket who are most like their professional wrestling heroes.
    Biden is going to put on a good show for these folks with his mouth. He’ll be ripping into McCain daily, dominating the airwaves and forcing McCain into perpetual response mode. Biden’s a star political trash talker.
    Rove & Co. will have to throw everything and the kitchen sink at Obama in the ugliest Death Match ever!
    Then the folk who in reality have the final say in electing the President, Appalachia and their kinfolk spread across the country, will go to them thar polls in November after one helluva rip roarin’ campaign that got their blood up sumphin awful, and vote their skin color as the Rove campaign play book will dictate.
    It’ll all be great outrageous fun, with y’all threatening to move to France in the process …… again.
    God bless’em, Americans git what they deserve; amusing self destruction.

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  11. Mr.Murder says:

    The second time in a rfow that fourth place from Iowa gets on the ticket.
    Someone whose support registered just past ‘undecided’ is on the ticket. The apparatachiks twice(in a row) now have foisted some fourth place backroom deal type of shenanigans on the electorate.
    Joe Biden is the one(percent) you’ve been waiting for.

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  12. Kathleen says:

    Well, you were right, guys, and I was wrong… if I wore a hat, I’d eat it. … it still is a good old boys’ club….this makes it easier for me to stick to my vow to only support canidates who support impeachment…..if I were a Dem woman operative, I’d let the boys do all the heavy lifting….once again Teddy rules the roost….and lays an egg…

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  13. Chris Brown says:

    “You Heard it Here”
    We did indeed. Nice job.

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  14. Johnny says:

    Carroll, take your defeatist attitude and go back to freerepublic

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  15. easy e says:

    Didn’t Biden support ’03 Iraq invasion along with Hillary and Lieberman? Where’s the “change” Obama has professed for so long? The string-pullers will succeed in keeping their puppets in power. Expect another Republican neocon-driven administration.

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  16. Marc Berthold says:

    What a great choice! I knew we could trust you, Steve!

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  17. Carroll says:

    All the news channels are announcing Biden.
    I am lowering my expections for dems winning this election and of Obama should he win.
    I would have chosen Clark with his military/foreign expertise and MBA in economics. Picking Clark would have satisfied doubts about foreign experience in the ‘scary’ parts of the world and the military component would look like a natural choice for these times, not like Obama needed someone to show him around and introduce him to other world officials.
    But maybe Obama was all speeches and no hat. Maybe he picked a theme that was just a theme. And maybe he’s afraid he can’t really walk the walk. If he is elected I can imagine a adm that is alternately eratic and stalled if Biden has significant import. Does not inspire my confidence. And this what I get for listening to everyone who told me not to be such a cynic about the hope change deal?
    Biden might satisfy the DC crowd and the dem party “advisors” who lost the last two presidential elections. But I don’t think it is going to satisfy a lot of the country who is being asked to crawl from the ditch on the right to the ditch on the left. It portends Washington as usual, not the change the majority of the country was pumped for.
    For the first time I can see the dems losing this once again.

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  18. Alex says:

    Somebody around here needs to get his facts straight — it was Georgia who moved into breakaway South Ossetia first and Russia responded. What would one expect Russia to do when faced with Georgian military hardware and personnel? The interesting backstory is what possessed Georgia’s president to make that move.

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  19. oilydal says:

    hear, hear dan kervick…this is exactly what i’ve been thinking…especially the part about him being swallowed up by the usual suspects.

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  20. Dan Kervick says:

    Eh. OK, it could have been worse. I don’t think this sends a very confident message from the Obama camp. Nor does it send a hopeful and inspiring message. But at least it’s not Bayh, Clinton, Lieberman or someone else really egregious.
    Biden just got back from insulting the residents of Tskhinvali by telling them that what they claim happened to them didn’t actually happen to them after all. That seems rather cold and cynical, but I guess South Ossetia isn’t a real place anymore, with people who count, but is just a US-Russian football.
    I don’t know anyone personally who wasn’t supporting Obama already who will now be pushed into Obama’s camp by the selection of Biden. But what do I know? I assume there are some such people out there.
    I suppose Biden is supposed to be Obama’s hatchet man now, and will be expected to get rough with McCain. I hope he can stay on the reservation. He tends to think out loud a bit too much for my taste.
    I liked Obama a lot better a year ago when he seemed to be his own man going on his own instincts and judgment. He now seems to be suffocating in a coccoon of unadventurous mainstream advisers committed to conventional Washington thinking, and in love with the usual old boys.
    This is a very blah selection. If Biden is so popular with Americans, why couldn’t he get any of them to vote for him in 2007? At least we can now focus on the convention, and the rest of the world, and put the overrated vice presidential selection behind us.

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  21. Wordie says:

    Excellent! Biden has great foreign policy knowledge/credibility and is a Constitutional scholar. This was a very wise choice.

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  22. susan pasek says:

    Chew on this John McCain:
    Joe Biden: The Surge Is A Failure
    Biden (D-DE) argued that the troop surge in Iraq has been a failure. “The purpose of the surge was to bring violence in Iraq down so that its leaders could come together politically. Violence has come down, but the Iraqis have not come together.”

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  23. Karl says:

    13 hours late.
    http://populistareport.blogspot.com/2008/08/final-vp-prediction-its-obamabiden.html
    But congrats on calling it before any other big blog or news organization did.
    I can’t wait to here more of your take on Jill Biden

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  24. Howie says:

    Well – CNN, AP and MSNBC has all confirmed this.

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  25. Ty Lookwell says:

    well, barf.

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  26. Beth in VA says:

    Is this really it? Steve, you’re actually happy with the Obama camp? lol!…You’ve always been a step or two ahead of them, wanting things, then they come around. I don’t know if they’re reading The Washington Note, or if they’re just on the same wavelength, just not in synch…

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  27. readerOfTeaLeaves says:

    Let Rove try — Rove of ScareForceOne doesn’t have as much
    influence as he did in previous elections.
    Who cares what Rove thinks? Newsweek can pay him, and Fox can
    pay him, but that’s not where the energy is these days. All those
    new voters in the primaries and caucuses this year clearly weren’t
    listening to Karl Rove.

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  28. TomG says:

    Once the VP choice is made and Secret Service protection arranged, would the Secret Service allow the text message announcement to be made before the VP candidate is under their protection? Just wondering if that may be part of the holdup with the text message announcement…and so when the Secret Service showed up, the reporters were able to get the “scoop” before the campaign could send any announcement. Not really important, but just wondering if this was something they’d considered…

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  29. Mr.Murder says:

    The not so secret service?
    Karl Rove will have Biden’s nic out in a week.
    His VP jet plane:
    Hair Force One

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  30. Jeff Carter says:

    Secret Service has just sent a protective detail to Biden’s house per ABC news.

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  31. ed says:

    Biden’s horrible. But if the Conventional Wisdom Beltway Types like him (and they obviously do, it’s hard to get more CW than this site–Larry King, maybe) then that could work.
    And by the way, I didn’t hear it here. I read other blogs too, you know.

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  32. Jason says:

    Hi Steve,
    Just curious, are you 100% sure (i.e. told by a high level source in the campaign) or just 95-99% sure like everyone else?
    Anyway, I’m very happy with his choice. While he’s almost guaranteed to stick his foot in his mouth sometime in the next few months, his pluses more than make up for it.
    Jason

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  33. readerOfTeaLeaves says:

    Whoa ;-))))
    I hope the entire McCain campaign, the GOP and its fundraisers,
    Karl Rove, and the BushCheney Mafia feel a cold sweat of fear at
    this news.
    Very heartening to see Obama make such a sensible, pragmatic,
    foreign-policy related decision. This bodes well.
    It’s hard to imagine that McCain could get any GOP running mate
    with Biden’s evident expertise and staff depth.
    Very cheering.

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