The Importance of Channeling Roosevelt

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TR 01.jpgTheodore Roosevelt’s words on Presidents and the critical importance of avoiding ‘yes men’ and getting unvarnished counsel and critique:

The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants.
He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole.
Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile.
To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.
Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else.

As President Obama thinks through the many challenges charging him and the country, all seemingly at the same time — but with a particular focus on Afghanistan, it’s important for Obama and his team to keep as the foundation of discussion the honest dynamic Roosevelt frames.
I think about this quote from Teddy Roosevelt whenever I sit in the White House/Roosevelt Room discussing with various other policy intellectuals and Members of the President’s National Security Council team the fast currents of a shifting world and the power bets America needs to make.
— Steve Clemons

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47 comments on “The Importance of Channeling Roosevelt

  1. Kathleen Grasso Andersen says:

    Jonh Waring….Whewewww…the very ugly truth…time for all good progressives to flush the DNC and vote Green, en masse…it’s the only way to change the face of American politics.

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  2. John Waring says:

    Speaking of channeling Theodore Roosevelt, here is the brutally honest Robert Fisk.
    http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/fisk/who-cares-in-the-middle-east-what-obama-says-2290761.html

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  3. Kathleen Grasso Andersen says:

    POA…I’m with you…why I have to tune out for months at a time…why I’m voting Green for the foreseeable future.

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  4. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “As a person who is aligned with many of your views, I find it uncomfortable to read when you use the slang vernacular instead of the sophisticated vocabulary you obviously have”
    Doncha just love solutions???
    If so, I have a surefire solution for your discomfort;
    Don’t read my posts. Ta daaaaa!!!!!
    As to the topic at hand…..
    I heard snippits of Netanyahu’s oration before Congress, and I can just imagine how demoralizing it must be for the Palestinians to realize that the deck is so absolutely stacked against them. Were I Palestinian, in their shoes, I’m afraid I’d launch a rocket or two.
    There will be NO two state solution. When the leader of Israel can state unequivicably that “Jerusalem will NEVER be divided”, the handwriting is on the wall.
    So too, underscoring the futile nature of Palestinian hopes and aspirations for the future, is the groveling adoration this pathetic body of American politicians, (our “Congress”), lavishes on this racist and arrogant man.
    I’m ashamed, discouraged, and thoroughly disgusted. I find very little of what we have become to laud or feel proud of. Its a dark future for the Palestinian people, and my own government is complicit in this travesty.
    I’m disengaging from participation in this sham of a process that is masqueraded as representative government. These slick talking self-serving maggots in DC do not “represent” ANYTHING I believe in. Like Kervick, I can no longer participate in this political charade. These people are loathsome.
    I can do far more for my country by steering my fellows towards truths, than I can by casting a vote for one more mass marketed posturing fraud.

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  5. questions says:

    Well, this is interesting:
    “The White House is threatening to veto the annual must-pass House Defense Authorization bill over language dramatically expanding the president’s power to wage the war on terror indefinitely, among other provisions.
    In addition, the administration for the first time, is threatening to veto the bill over language limiting his ability to transfer detainees overseas or try them in civilian court.”
    http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/obama-would-veto-forever-war-language-in-defense-bill.php?ref=fpb
    If it means what I think it means, it’s a good sign that Obama doesn’t really want an imperial executive with unlimited power. And the Gitmo detainee issue seems to be coming out the right way, at least from the executive branch.
    Who knows what Congress will do, but it’s certainly good to see the admin going the right way on a host of issues lately.
    Now, if they could just get some kind of jobs program going, some kind of housing/mortgage fix, and maybe stop the tornadoes in the south from hitting every town and some cities too….. I wish well to all the people dealing with the weather.

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  6. Kathleen Grasso Andersen says:

    On second thought, Obama’s opposition to the proposed UN Resolution recognizing Palestine as a State, with the 1967 borders, means to me that his position on Palestine/Israel is schizophrenic, at best.

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  7. Warren Metzler says:

    POA, I appeal to you. It is possible to use words that don’t have a sharp edge themselves, to effective skewer a person’s view, if that view is unreasonable, or illogical, or both making it irrational. As a person who is aligned with many of your views, I find it uncomfortable to read when you use the slang vernacular instead of the sophisticated vocabulary you obviously have.
    To all I suggest that the world has an organizer, and eventually truth wins out; regardless of how powerful the status quo forces appear.
    I recognize that Zionism is based on achieving all the land on which the 12 Hebraic tribes lived. And that the wealth of the Jews throughout the world provides Israel with effective tools to win the support of most of the powerful countries of the world.
    But as soon as the Palestinians get their act together; have free elections, and elect leadership that never was part of the PLO; they will begin an effective non-violent campaign which will gradually win over the world, isolate the Zionists making them weak. And justice will prevail.
    It is not possible for any foreign country to force any region of the world into any position. So the idea that the US has the capacity to do this was always a flawed view. So do whatever you can to facilitate the Palestinians to develop autonomy and rational approaches, and in time the Zionists will be defected.

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  8. Warren Metzler says:

    POA, I appeal to you. It is possible to use words that don’t have a sharp edge themselves, to effective skewer a person’s view, if that view is unreasonable, or illogical, or both making it irrational. As a person who is aligned with many of your views, I find it uncomfortable to read when you use the slang vernacular instead of the sophisticated vocabulary you obviously have.
    To all I suggest that the world has an organizer, and eventually truth wins out; regardless of how powerful the status quo forces appear.
    I recognize that Zionism is based on achieving all the land on which the 12 Hebraic tribes lived. And that the wealth of the Jews throughout the world provides Israel with effective tools to win the support of most of the powerful countries of the world.
    But as soon as the Palestinians get their act together; have free elections, and elect leadership that never was part of the PLO; they will begin an effective non-violent campaign which will gradually win over the world, isolate the Zionists making them weak. And justice will prevail.
    It is not possible for any foreign country to force any region of the world into any position. So the idea that the US has the capacity to do this was always a flawed view. So do whatever you can to facilitate the Palestinians to develop autonomy and rational approaches, and in time the Zionists will be defected.

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  9. Cee says:

    Netanyahu and the one-state solution
    By Neve Gordon
    24 May 2011
    Neve Gordon argues that Israel’s unwillingness to compromise with the Palestinians on key issues might annul a two-state solution, making only power-sharing

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  10. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Hmmmmm. Seems my observations and opinions about Obama’s asinine bullshit are shared by a number of essayists over at The Palestine Note.
    Pretty intriquing seeing the aftermath of Obama’s disjointed and nonsensical mutterings of this past week. Attacked on the right, pretty much unsupported on the left, and to boot, the Palestinians feeling betrayed and sold out. (As they should).
    Seems Obama has pretty much stepped in it, doesn’t it? His blather was simply too vague and bland, giving EVERYONE ample room to criticize, distort, and lament.
    Note how the Israeli announcement of further expansion is not being used as the wedge in the narrative that could help underscore Israeli intransigence, and destroy the myth of “Israeli concessions”??? In actuality, there are MANY such points of leverage that Obama could use to pushback against Netanyahu’s arrogance. There is plenty of evidence, and footage, of Israeli atrocities committed damned near DAILY against Palestinian protesters. And the invaluable hay that could be made of publicizing Israel’s targeting of American citizens cannot be overstated.
    But gutless, and undermined by his own party’s fealty to the Israeli lobby machine, Obama simply caves, on a par with what we have come to expect of the man. Sadly, he is a weakling, and a posturer of low character.
    Spanked, and in retreat, he flees to Europe, family in tow, taking from us, instead of giving. If he can’t improve the world, he might as well use his station to explore it.
    Maybe he’ll find some time to shoot some hoops. On our dime, of course.

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  11. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Heres another ad, found on Steve’s Clemons’ homepage. This one from the David Horowitz “Freedom Center…..
    http://www.frontpagemag.net/?cdtrack_creative=58e87ae0-634d-4a8e-a103-ba519540edc2&cdtrack_source=6766ecf9-5d7e-4988-ba24-e120e6fe0873
    Heres an excerpt….
    “Despite the usual flowery rhetoric about two peoples living in peace, yesterday morning’s presidential address may well go down as the beginning of the end of the State of Israel. Never before has an American President so brazenly embraced the “Palestinian” cause; never before has an American President so contemptuously pushed Israel into a corner. To proclaim that the borders of a Palestinian state must be drawn according to the 1967 lines, ignoring all the issues that should be negotiated on the way to two secure states and ignoring too that Israel will someday have to defend these borders from Palestinian hatred, tells two lies at once: that the Palestinians have been sincerely searching peace, and that Israel is the problem”
    “The Freedom Center, headed by David Horowitz, has defended Israel and its right to exist with passion and have called out the advocates of a new genocide for who and what they are. If you would like to learn more and receive a free copy of our groundbreaking pamphlet, “Obama and the War Against Israel”, please complete the form to the right. Thank you for your interest in saving Israel. She is the canary in the mine, and as she goes, so goes America and the West”
    End excerpt.
    Amazing, isn’t it? This type of slimey disingenuous SHIT is flowing forth from virtually ALL the RW media and think tank sources.
    I don’t know about you, but were I a blogger with a popular political blog, I’d move heaven and earth to avoid giving these kind of wackjob fanatical liars a forum from which to spread their message. But I guess blogging is no different than all the pursuits of the Washington elite….
    MONEY. Thats it in a nutshell, isn’t it? Any message, as long as it brings in a dime?
    The really disheartening thing is that this crap is undoubtedly being swallowed whole by a large segment of our population.
    The message? That “the left” does not support Israel. Someone wanna tell Reid, Hoyer, Pelosi, Clinton, Biden, Wasserman-Shultz, and the rest of these bought and paid for “left wing” firsters in DC that “they don’t support Israel”???
    It’s rather telling seeing this RW feeding frenzy, while noting the tepid response waged by Obama’s own party. The Democrats are mum, or whispering, while the Republicans are screaming from the rooftops. Have you ever seen such a bunch of cowardly subservient wusses?

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  12. Kathkeen Grasso Andersen says:

    Don Bacon….thanks for the Abbas piece in the NYT…hurrah indeed….now let’s see some of that much promised “audacity” from Obama and demand that he put his shoulder behind his words that a Palestinian State be recognized on the 1967 borders….withold aid, if need be….nothing less will do.
    Obama and Nutanyahooooo think Israel should not have to negotiate with a party which does not recognize Israel’s right to exist, Hamas. Yet Palestinians are expected to negotiate with a party that actually ended the Palestinian State. Could a double standard be more blatant? It’s like Israel inviting Jews from all over the world to live in Israel yet denies indigenous Palestinians their right to return.
    In any case Hamas is who the Palestinians elected, so they are the rightful represetatives of the Palestinian people….get over it and get on with it.
    I can’t wait for September…and hope the UN General Assembly, in addition to recognizing Palestine, commits UN Peacekeepers to partol it’s borders….until Israel gets the hell out of Palestine.
    Now will someone please channel FDR on taxes and public works?

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  13. Don Bacon says:

    The WPA is unconstitutional and it didn’t apply to Libya.
    According to the act the president’s powers as Commander in Chief can only be exercised pursuant to a declaration of war, specific statutory authorization from Congress, or a national emergency created by an attack upon the United States (50 USC Sec. 1541).
    The purpose of a declaration of war, which has now been obsoleted, is to declare that a state of war exists, due to foreign attack as at Pearl Harbor. It was never the intention that the U.S. should initiate wars, nor should it be.

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  14. DakotabornKansan says:

    Not Channeling the Founding Fathers
    Scott Horton marks May 19, 2011, the date Congress abdicated its constitutional responsibility by allowing the 60-day period under the War Powers Act to expire without taking any action, either affirmative or negative, with respect to U.S. military operations in Libya. By failing to assert its war-making prerogatives, Congress effectively solidified the unilateral war-making power of the Executive.
    http://www.harpers.org/archive/2011/05/hbc-90008099

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  15. Where's the beef says:

    Looks like Netanyahoo has got Barry tapdancing again.

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  16. rc says:

    “”….to maintain Israel as both a Jewish state and a democratic state”
    As if such a entity can be both at the same time, eh?” (POA,2:29PM)
    Well, in fact it does set the meta-parameters for the borders of a viable democratic jewish state — i.e. where the appropriate borders are those combinations of lines that fence in a population where 51% are Jewish.
    How close would this be to the 1967 UN agreed borders I wonder?

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  17. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Don’t mention it”
    I just did.
    On another note, but along similiar lines…
    I have been unable to force myself to watch Huckabee on Fox. Once or twice, I paused there while channel surfing and a few brief seconds was all I could take. But tonight, channel surfing, I cruised by and heard the word “Israel” come out of his oh-so-folksie pudgy little swinelike face, and forced myself to listen to his “message”.
    He did not disappoint. He stated that Obama had “demanded that Israel return to the 1967 borders”.
    Gotta love it, doncha? This dude, who pontificates nightly from the self-proffessed pedestal of deep religious conviction, is just another Washington DC low-life liar, who will say ANYTHING to advance a religious, political, or ideological agenda. But who can deny that a man who claims for himself the mantle of Christian ethics and morality, and looks us straight in the eyes and lies so unabashedly, is actually more despicable than those in DC, the majority, who lie out of simple greed and the hunger for power.
    One watches such a man with amazement. How does such a man find an audience so uninformed, and so blinded by religious fervor, that his presence on Fox survives a single season, much less a parade of them? And what kind of corporate executives are so despicably partisan that they would offer such programming??? Are we to believe they are so disengaged that they don’t actually know when one of their mouthpieces is feeding his audience a line of horseshit? Its painfully obvious that these shows such as Huckabee’s, are DESIGNED to nurture ignorance.
    He has decided not to run for Pres. Oh darn.
    One would like to believe he chose not to run because of a bit of introspection that made him realize his opponent would almost certainly expose him as just another bible thumping fraud like Jones, Baker, or the ultimate religipathic wacko, Hagee. But considering the pathetic character of the average DC megolamaniac, Huckabee undoubtedly believes he can do more “good” filling his audience’s minds with nonsense, propaganda, and unbearably bad music, rather than sitting in the Oval Office seeing what he can do to speed up the apocalypse.
    Frankly, aren’t you all just a bit, (maybe more than a little), embarrassed by the picture we are painting of ourselves, and exhibiting to the rest of the world???
    Huckabee??? Trump??? Palin???
    Egads.

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  18. Bill Pearlman says:

    Don’t mention it.

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  19. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Actually in a weird sort of way I kind of like reading your stuff. I know where your coming from, you don’t mince words. And your in favor of free speech”
    Pearlman, thats “you’re”, not “your”.
    And your not so veiled insinuation
    that I advocate for what Hitler did to the Jews does not go un-noted. Interesting that you do not challenge my assertion that far more Palestinians have died than Israeli jews. Instead, you somehow convolute the meaning of my words, implying that I possess a virulent antisemitism equaling that of the nazis.
    I’m more than a little curious. Do you actually entertain the impression that such insinuations are taken seriously by me, or the others that bother to read your comments? Such an insinuation can only be offered with inciteful intent, and judging by past comments about you and your comment style, few here are hoodwinked in regards to your motives.
    My last comment lodged SPECIFIC accusations about the policies and actions of the Israelis. As a diversion from your usual commenting style, how about suprising me with a point by point rebuttal to those specific accusations?
    And yes, I do respect and advocate for free speech. Unfortunately for your comment about my wishing to “relive those golden years”, there are undoubtedly those that will shoot emails off to Steve, complaining about the obvious baiting that such a post intends. I assure you, that email will not be sent by me, because I happen to believe that you actually favor us with your presence, serving to underscore and buttress the opinion many of us have of you, and in addition, you justify that opinion to those that may not have been subjected to your posting “style” in the past.
    I don’t mind your presence at all, and if responding to you civilly, as I have attempted to do in this post, serves to extend your presence, and help underscore the usefulness of allowing your contributions to remain uncensored, then that would satisfy me greatly. I hope Steve, and the others here, can see the wisdom behind allowing you to comment as you see fit. In your own way, you send the same message about you, (and those like you), that I do.
    A thank you is surely in order, so let me take this opportunity to express my gratitude to you for so openly buttressing my arguments and opinions about the “character” of the zionist movement.

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  20. Bill Pearlman says:

    Actually in a weird sort of way I kind of like reading your stuff. I know where your coming from, you don’t mince words. And your in favor of free speech.

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  21. Bill Pearlman says:

    Don’t you ever go to a movie or a ball game?
    BTW I know the Jewish body count isn’t up to a level that makes you happy but you never know. Maybe you’ll someday be able to relive those golden years 1939-45

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  22. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “And finally, when the US Jewish political community is polled to see if they support Obama being able to use the withdrawal of aid, and sanctions to bring ISRAEL to the negotiating table, and to stop the ethnic cleansing by Israel

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  23. Don Bacon says:

    The USA finally — hurrah! — has made itself irrelevant to the Arab world. First Tunisia, then Egypt, and in September:
    The Long Overdue Palestinian State
    By MAHMOUD ABBAS
    Published: May 16, 2011, NYTimes
    This month, however, as we commemorate another year of our expulsion

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  24. DonS says:

    Helene Cooper, NYT, makes a case that Obama is pushing back against the ‘Likudniks” in Israel:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/23/world/middleeast/23aipac.html?hp
    It could be equally argued he needs to push back against the Likudniks in the US government, especially Congress. Now that would be interesting:
    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/162507-house-lawmakers-push-back-against-obamas-stand-on-1967-borders

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  25. Sand says:

    Palestinian “State”.

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  26. Sand says:

    “…Glenn Greenwald writes about Obama and the Israel Lobby

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  27. DonS says:

    It is very much like we are living in a video game, where reality, and the fight to control the narrative — whatever the subject — is more significant than any semblance of attempting to find, encourage, and implement even a relative ‘truth’. Whether it’s the Af/Pak docudrama, or the parameters and constraints of the RW Zionist frame on I/P, the battles for control of the message and policy are being waged in some third or fourth removed information dimension.
    Meanwhile, as regards actual impacts on the American polity, people die, wars are waged, millions remain unemployed, the fundamental economy crumbles, infrastructure and education take a beating, the national security state proliferates, and multi-millionaire/billionaires flourish.
    So what makes anyone think this battleship can be turned in any meaningful direction or timeframe. We cling to little shred of hope, but can anyone name any significant evidence that we are not equally delusional?

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  28. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “In the wake of the Goldstone Report, we stood up strongly for Israel

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  29. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Wasserman Schultz is of the same ilk as Cantor. These people are actually agents for Israel, masquerading as “representatives” of the constituency that put them in office. We see them defending the zionist agenda with far more zeal than they apply to domestic issues. Whats more, we are PAYING them, a remarkable stipend, with lifelong benefits, to act as agents for a foriegn government, often against our own best interests.
    This whole “delegitimize Israel” rhetoric is a strawman, equating criticism as delegitimization. “Delegitimize” is the new buzzword, now that “anti-semite” has lost its power due to mis-application, deceptive-application, and over-application.

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  30. Don Bacon says:

    You mean the NYTimes is kissing up to Obama? Again?
    Jennifer Rubin in WaPo:
    “The president just finished speaking to a packed convention room at the AIPAC policy conference. He was not booed when he entered; most stood and offered brief applause. Still, the crowd during the speech had long periods of stony silence, and audible boos were heard when he brought up his plan to base an Israeli-Palestinian peace deal on the 1967 border lines.”
    Audible boos, but just not loud enough to be heard in New Yawk.

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  31. Sand says:

    Off the MSM radar — example of Obama being boo’ed: [6:11 mins].
    Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz speaking at a Greater Miami Jewish Federation Community Summit on Combating the Campaign to Delegitimize Israel [The “Jewish State”]
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd5Xbw-_N_g

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  32. Don Bacon says:

    Obama on Iran at AIPAC: “You also see our commitment to our shared security in our determination to prevent Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Here in the U.S., we

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  33. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Be interesting to read a transcript of this AIPAC oration of Obama’s, particularly of interest are his comments about Iran. It will also be interesting to see how the RW mouthpieces, and the politician trash like Cantor, spin his comments about 1967 and land swaps.
    Of more import than the AIPAC convention attendee’s reaction to Obama’s words will be the Congressional reaction to Netanyahu’s upcoming zionist ejaculation of racist and murderous sputum that he is sure to spew from the podium. Something tells me that Congress will greet Netanyahu with a fervor surpassing the polite recognition that Obama recieved from AIPAC. In fact, Netanyahu’s rude and disrespectful treatment of our President seems to be seen with far more favor from our politicians HERE than it recieved by the members of the Knesset.
    Also, its a crying shame that the settlement expansion, announced in the midst of this interaction, is not being pushed into the public eye, forcefully and loudly, within this ongoing debate. That announcement, and action, was far more insulting and challenging to our President than Netanyahu’s televised patronizing dressing down of Obama was.
    Who would have thought, a few years back, that the leader of a foreign nation could strive to so completely insult and humiliate our President, and be sided with by such a huge number of our body politik?

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  34. questions says:

    “It was a quietly delivered speech that lasted 20 minutes, and at the end, the packed hall of at the Washington Convention Center stood up for Mr. Obama and clapped

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  35. Don Bacon says:

    A big part of the problem with an imperial president derives from the mistaken idea that the president is responsible for foreign policy, with the support of Congress (the people) being a nicety but not a necessity. The country being in an endless war, with the president as commander-in-chief, is a big boost to this unconstitutional falsity.
    According to the Constitution the president has executive powers and the congress makes the laws. Recently the congress has wrongly become a mere appendage of the executive which has now affected domestic policy as well as foreign policy, and laws aren’t needed any longer.
    The concept of executive privilege, with signing statements etc., got going with Clinton, increased under gwBush and now under a characterless president has increased even more.
    The president wants a new war? No problem. Even Steve Clemons brushed aside the Constitution when asked about it by Rachel Maddow.
    RIP U.S. democracy and welcome to loserville..

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  36. DakotabornKansan says:

    Obama

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  37. Tank Man says:

    Obama Seeks Congressional “Support” for Libyan Mission
    http://edition.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/05/20/war.powers/
    Rep. Brad Sherman, D-California, told CNN before news of
    the letter broke that he believed Obama was trying to “bring
    democracy to Libya while shredding the Constitution of the
    United States.”
    More proof Obama and his enablers in the Legislative Branch
    are “domestic enemies” of the Constitution.

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  38. rc says:

    OT: How about that — the SA dictatorship might even be getting dragged into the real modern world at last!
    The USA’s big deal about democracy etc but not when it comes to oil wealth it seems.
    What a joke — good on her.
    “Saudi woman campaigns for right to drive
    Female activist detained after posting online video of herself driving through Saudi Arabia.”
    http://english.aljazeera.net/video/middleeast/2011/05/201152252517876892.html

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  39. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Heres the dirtbag Cantor, sputtering forth with his typical disingenuous spew. Yep, its all the Palestinian’s fault, Israel making every effort for peace, Thursday’s announcement of the expansion of two more settlements being an example of Israel’s “necessary sacrifices”.
    Gads, I loathe these people. Cantor is an example of the very WORST Washington DC has to offer. Too bad he is not an exception, rather than the rule. His constituency elects him, yet he has chosen to represent the Israelis, and support the racist murderous leader of Israel, while spitting in the face of his own President.
    “Today, the president outlined his hopes for Mideast peace

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  40. JohnH says:

    Obama seems to be channeling Warren Harding, not TR. Harding was a believer in laissez-faire economics, was noted for going along to get along, never had any ideas of his own, and presided over an era that was massively corrupt. Sound familiar?
    Channeling TR would be wonderful–bust a few trusts and begin to restore competitive markets and free market capitalism. Instead BO seems letting business and finance concentrate as much as possible, which will feather a few nests, but lead to further price gouging and lousy products and services for the rest of us.

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  41. Mr.Murder says:

    “To announce that there must be no criticism of the president, or that we are to stand by the president, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
    Well spoken by veteran Rough Rider Teddy Roosevelt.
    No wonder he left the Republican to run against them.

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  42. PissedOffAmerican says:

    The whole charade, acted out by the DC criminals, is getting harder and harder to sell to the public, particulary those of us on the left. I can’t help but wonder if the increasing criticism of the “thoughts” of these so called “experts” in the think tanks such as the NAF, etc, is not the reason for the blog silence we are beginning to see when pivotal or important events, policies, or speeches occur.
    It was not so long ago that Steve Clemons would have been all over this latest flap between the bigot Netanyahu and the spineless posturer, Obama. But those timely “analyses” are becoming few and far between, particularly in regards to Isr/Pal. Perhaps the intellectual dissention, (from his outside the beltway readers), against these status quo accounts and opinions, (to say nothing about the huge gaps in the narrative created by the inexplicable ommission of comments about highly relevent events), explains his reluctance to opine substantively and in a timely manner on this issue. Like I say, the status quo BS is getting harder and harder to peddle.
    Its really a shame that this pure unadulterated CRAP is being disseminated to a huge portion of our population, by twisted and warped “interpretations” of Obama’s words, all designed along partisan lines, without opposition by those such as Clemons or Maddow.
    Watching Maddow’s show last night on MSNBC, not a word was uttered by her about Obama’s speech and Netanyahu’s response. Yet, in the RW media circus, Obama’s speech is being milked, perverted, misrepresented, “analyzed”, and demonized 24/7, with nary a single RW mouthpiece failing to add to the pile-on.
    Whats even more ridiculous, is MSNBC’s weekend diversion into a programming mode that ignores opposing the herculean efforts of the RW media, and instead launches into 48 hours of prison life, irrelevency, and idiotic tabloid horseshit.
    Meanwhile, the RW propaganda machine, with Fox leading the charge, is going full tilt along a partrisan agenda, reaching a weekend audience that is undoubtedly larger than the middle of the week audience.
    No wonder the drooling masses are clueless, PARTICULARY in regards to Isr/Pal.
    But hey, who can resist a foray into the trousers of Strauss or the Sperminator, when our media so sensationally packages such a tittilating excursion. Whats a few nuclear meltdowns, an undeclared and illegal war, or rapidly accelerating settlement expansion when, instead, we can track the scandalous escapades of a gold plated and power mad penis or two, or get a first hand look at what its like to be a felon, rotting away at Rikers?
    I know, thanks to the media, where Arnold put his dick, but I haven’t a clue who voted against this recent extension of the Patriot Act, or whether or not Berkeley rainfall is still radioactive.
    Somehow, I doubt Arnold’s dick is gonna threaten me or mine. I wish I could say the same about the latter two issues I mentioned.

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  43. ... says:

    i guess going after whistle blowers in the grand style of gwbush isn’t a part of this conversation, lol…. obama is doing gwbush one better.. so much for the idea of change… the leaders have become servants to something other then the people at this point… what part of this isn’t obvious?

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  44. Maw of America says:

    Steve, I’m assuming you’ve read the latest piece in the New Yorker by Jane Mayer. It is astonishing to me how totalitarian Obama has become with regard to whistleblowers and state security. At some point (I hope), there will be a groundswell of pushback and the boat will be rocked.

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  45. PissedOffAmerican says:

    So, uh? Do I detect a hint of “the President is getting bad advise” in this posting, Steve?
    Who was this veiled missive targeted towards in this Administration?
    Regardless, he sure stepped in it this time, eh? Too bad the American public is so brainwashed to believe this horseshit we are constantly fed in regardss to Isr/Pal. That such a unremarkable speech should get him in such hot water is a sad stement on the ignorance and prejudice this whole issue is built upon.
    If ya didn’t think the RW leadership and media was maggotlike, deceptive, and despicable before this, its hard to imagine continuing to harbor any doubts. Obama probably destroyed himself with this speech, when in fact it is jackasses like Romney, saying things like “Obama threw Israel under the Bus”, that should be ruined by such sensational exageration and rhetoric that is designed to bloom on the public’s ignorance.

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