STREAMING LIVE: John Kerry, Greg Craig, Joschka Fischer, Anne-Marie Slaughter, Mel Levine, Walter Isaacson, Steve Coll, Rob Malley, Daniel Levy, James Zogby, Janice O’Connell Headline Dem Convention Middle East Forum

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And I’m pleased to report that today is my 46th birthday.
— Steve Clemons

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34 comments on “STREAMING LIVE: John Kerry, Greg Craig, Joschka Fischer, Anne-Marie Slaughter, Mel Levine, Walter Isaacson, Steve Coll, Rob Malley, Daniel Levy, James Zogby, Janice O’Connell Headline Dem Convention Middle East Forum

  1. Paul Norheim says:

    Hey Tony,
    perhaps I was unclear in my post above, but I think you
    misunderstood my comment. I mentioned the comment ABOVE
    YOURS (the one from eNews Rference). That was spam.
    See what I mean?
    Your post contained judgement and opinion. I actually liked it
    very much (though I`m afraid you`re a bit too optimistic
    regarding Obama, but hey! We`ll see…).
    I also mentioned the anti-Obama spam from TahoeEditor.
    During the last months he`s been linking to propaganda about
    1000 times, usually not engaging in any discussion with fellow
    commentators or offering any reflections regarding politics, just
    plain spamming.
    I may disagree with you once in a while, TonyForesta, but I
    would never dream of asking Steve to delete your comments.
    I`m against spam, not against serious comments.

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  2. TonyForesta says:

    Feel free to delete my commentary if you deem it offensive Mr. Clemons. The grim reality for all Americans is that there are simply two choices left. As a commentarian an opinion was posted favoring one of those choices. If that is too difficult to hazard, or in anyway offends the protocols of your site, then I accept your decision to delete any post you wish with all due respect, and in good faith. That said, in my opinion, (and that’s all it is, though I relish the opportunity to defend any retort, or respond to any direct challenge on the merits or specifics, or any chosen word) – a vote for McCain is a vote for unabated perpetuation of the exact same policies of the fascists in the Bush government, and I don’t see any real choice left for America.

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  3. Paul Norheim says:

    Steve,
    you`ve said frequently that you don`t allow spam on your site. I
    would recommend you to delete the obvious pro-Obama spam
    above TonyForesta`s comment, from “eNews Reference”. (You
    may delete my comment as well at the same time).
    I wouldn`t mind if you deleted 90 % of the comments from
    TahoeEditor as well, since he is currently the biggest spammer
    here (much bigger than Ironbelle ever was, promoting PUMA).
    I would guess that you`re annoyed by how he is abusing your
    hospitality (as well as the fact that you seem to know each
    other), by deposing his spam month after month on your blog. I
    would also guess that Tahoe thinks that you`re a nice and
    diplomatic guy, and don`t want to embarrass him, and that
    you`re aware of the fact that he`s taking advantage of that.
    I appreciate your liberal position regarding opinions and
    freedom of speech at TWN. You`re a great and generous host!
    But I would suggest that you are consequent regarding spam,
    not allowing the frequent abuse of your rules from some
    acquaintance who takes advantage of your generous spirit.
    As I said: feel free to delete this comment if you want to – and
    I`ll not go on and on making my point against TahoeEditor in
    this manner, if you chose to delete this comment and allow
    Tahoe to continue in the same way. You have your reasons, and
    I`ll accept it.

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  4. TonyForesta says:

    A thousand thanks John B. and forgive me for being uncool, unbalanced, and notforward thinking. Obama’s speech was riveting. The emotion of the crowd and in my little circle is notable. The people are thirsting for an end to this horrorshow, and the nightmare that has defined the last eight years. There are doubts, there are questions, but underlying all the turmoil is a palpable collective desire to see the shaming and destruction of America end, and to look forward to some kind of hope, some kind of light at the end of this dismally dark tunnel created and perpetuated even now by the fascists in the Bush government. There is no other choice now but Obama, and this speech tonight, and Obama’s strenuous divisions with McCain provide this hope.
    The gop has nothing, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to run on. The people are aching to restore credibity and indeed sanity to America, and looking for a way to turn away from the beligerence and lawlessness of the fascists in the Bush government, (which McCain would certainly perpetuate). Obama is that hope now.
    Well done DNC. Bravo Obama. I for one, cannot wait for the debates, and the election, and America choosing through democratic process to end the terrible bloody, costly nightmare or the Bush government reign.

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  5. John B. says:

    I know it’s not cool, civil, balanced or forward thinking necessarily, but I for one agree completely with Mr. Foresta.

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  6. TonyForesta says:

    “I think one of the biggest questions for voters considering the O team is will congress fully investigate and prosecute the bush neo-cons for war crimes and treason if the facts justify it?”
    True that pauline. Allowing the traitors, criminals, and profiteers in the Bush to slink away unpunished would severly undermine America’s commitment to the rule of law. Worse, these same hobgobblins would reanimate in another few years and resume thier evil designs and machinations bent on the nazification of America, and erecting a fascist totalitarian dictatorship, (which they almost succeeded in doing already). I hold concerns that these traitors and criminals will declare marshall law, suspend the elections, and close the coffin on what little remains of the Constitution and the America we were born into.
    There are many people calling for a real investigation into the horrors of 9/11. The previous whitewash is full of holes, and the Bush government parables and narrative on 9/11 is patently false. America must muster the courage to truly investigate what really happened on that dark day. A real investigation into 9/11 would damn the fascists in the Bush government for all time. Then there should be a real investigation into the act treason and revenge outing of Valerie Plame and Brewster Jennings & Associates. Then there should be a real investigation into the deceptions, and propaganda, (information domination, perception management, and disinformation operations) the Bush government conducted on the America people to justify the bloody, costly, horrorshow in Iraq. Then Gitmo and the perverted torture practices the Bush government so relished. Then the wanton profiteeriing and the privatization of America’s military and intelligence apparatus. These investigations should all work in concert and in the immediate days of the new administration, sending a message to the fascists and the rest of the world, that America once again abides by the rule of law, and our own Constitution, and the no one (NO ONE) including imagined kings, despots, dictators, or tyrants are above or beyond the law.

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  7. pauline says:

    Tony wrote:
    “If you deem commentary uncivil, – what terms do you apply to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> systemic wanton profiteering?”
    I think one of the biggest questions for voters considering the O team is will congress fully investigate and prosecute the bush neo-cons for war crimes and treason if the facts justify it?
    Or will we just get a dem congressional panel that slaps a few neo-con wrists and forgets the actual war crimes? That’s my biggest fear.
    Kucinich said it so succinctly.
    “Wake up America,” Kucinich declared from the podium of the Democratic National Convention. “In 2001 the oil companies, the war contractors and the neocon-artists seized the economy and added $4 trillion of unproductive spending to the national debt. … Trillions of dollars for an unnecessary war paid for with borrowed money.”
    “We cannot afford another Republican administration,” Kucinich said. “Wake up, America; the insurance companies took over health care. Wake up, America; the pharmaceutical companies took over drug pricing. Wake up, America; the speculators took over Wall Street. … Wake up, America; we went into Iraq for oil.”
    Kucinich, a favorite of the party’s liberal base who has led a push to impeach President Bush, enumerated some of the administration’s most egregious abuses but said they would not dampen Democrats’ spirits. As his speech crescendoed to its peak, the audience rose in boisterous applause.
    “This administration can tap our phones — but they can’ t tamper our creative spirit,” he said. “They can open our mail, but the can’ t open economic opportunities. They can track our every move, but they lost track of the economy while the cost of food, gasoline, and electricity skyrockets. Now, they have skillfully played our post 9/11 fears, and they’ve allowed the few to profit at the expense of the many.”
    see —
    http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Kucinich_tells_DNC_Wake_up_America_0826.html

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  8. Thomas says:

    Happy Birthday, Steve.

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  9. bert says:

    steve could you post the video of this, either here or at newamerica.net.
    Presumably since you streamed it there’s no problem with having it on the record.
    It got great reviews, as you doubtless know.

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  10. evap says:

    Happy birthday, Steve. You don’t look a day over 45. *grin*

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  11. Beth in VA says:

    Happy Birthday Steve! Hope it was a great ride around the sun, and that this next one will be filled with prosperity and good will for you and yours at TWN. Thanks for your great work — your ideals, values, brains, and heart are a wonderful gift to us all.

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  12. EA says:

    Happy birthday!
    Bil, is your character holding a caking or giving Steve the finger?!

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  13. liz says:

    HB Steve. I bet Annie, Oakley and isn’t your newest Buddy???, wish you’d come home for your birthday licking and loving. New pics soon??????

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  14. Alex says:

    Happy Birthday to you.
    Happy Birthday to you.
    Happy Birthday dear Ste-eve.
    Happy Birthday to you!
    🙂 🙂 🙂
    And congrats on the book salon over at FDL. You and Jane Mayer rock. I have the book–still working up the nerve to read it. I don’t especially like puking.

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  15. eberit says:

    Happy B’Day Steve,
    But…..where are you? I value your comments more then most of the other commentators online….finish your cake and give us your perspective PLEASE!
    You are a handsome dveil for 46!!!

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  16. kotzabasis says:

    My best wishes for your birthday Steve.
    Kotzabasis

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  17. Bil says:

    Biden ROCKED!
    Happy Birthday again Steve, light this…(my attempt at a candle)
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  18. Mr.Murder says:

    Very good speech by Bill. He established some talking points and connected them to some Obama phrases.
    He had a Kennedy-esque moment when he referred to the might of our example(or power) instead of the example of our might. That was phrase crystallized the approach to policy that defines each party.
    John Kerry is taking the air out of the sails. Why doesn’t Mr. ‘fight for every vote’ just exit stage, left?
    The person best able to uphold the banner of eloquence has already spoken, in President Bill Clinton. He was and remains on the right side of history with his speech tonight.

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  19. Kelly Yip says:

    Happy Birthday, Steve! You are STILL as handsome as ever…and brilliant, too. 🙂
    In all seriousness, I wish you great happiness and may your 46th year on earth be one of your most productive.
    Regards,
    Kelly

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  20. Spunkmeyer says:

    yes, yes it was. But I’m sure the intent was perceived.

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  21. questions and the failure of the cake says:

    ascii art failure! :'(

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  23. questions says:

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY STEVE!!!
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    The above should look like a candle, but it doesn’t quite work!

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  24. jon says:

    Happy birthday!
    I’d say I was sorry you have to work on your birthday, but I have the
    feeling you’re in your element today.

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  25. TonyForesta says:

    The fascists in the Bush government do not deserve and will not receive one nano-particle of respect, goodwill, good faith, or trust from me.
    If you deem commentary uncivil, – what terms do you apply to intentionally deceiving the American people on the justifications for the ongoing crime scene in Iraq, hurling our daughters and sons to an UNNECESSARY, illegal, costly, bloody war of choice in Iraq, the slaughter of hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi’s, spying on Americans without due process or just cause, erasing a thousand years of habeaus corpus precedents, shredding the priniciples of international law, the ruthless betrayal dismemberment and reengineering of the constitution, the treasonous act of revenge outing our own agency assets and operationssanctioning torture and perverted interrogation techniques as government policy, the ghoulish exploitation of the dead and horrors of 9/11, and systemic wanton profiteering?
    No trust, no good will, no good faith, and certainly no respect for the Bush government cabals, criminals, and pathological liars. Damn them all!

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  26. Linda says:

    Happy Birthday!
    I’m glad I was able to catch the last half of this excellent program and be able to hear Mel Levine’s wisdom again and Fischer and Levy.
    Forty-six is young or old depending merely on how old one is. As Bernard Baruch said, “I never will be an old man. To me old age is always fifteen years older than I am.”
    And 47 isn’t too young with be “44” with the breadth and depth of foreign policy advisors Obama already has engaged.
    Respect for and civility toward those with whom one disagrees is good in foreign and domestic policy–and also on blogs.
    So I have come back to ask all who comment on TWN to give Steve a birthday present of more civility and respect toward each other, commenting only on the topic of a thread, and posting only a few lines of a quote and then linking to an article whenever possible rather than posting an entire article.
    Steve gives freely of his time and thoughts to TWN. We can honor that and him by providing the lively and civil debate he welcomes. But then he said it best today that he isn’t advocating peace—just equilibrium.

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  27. TonyForesta says:

    Outstanding forum Mr. Clemons. What struck me most was the almost unanimous concensus of the greivous damage the predatory policies of the fascists in the Bush government have caused to America, the ME, and the world. The concept of international law (which the Bush government trashed) will have to be “revisited” and restored by the next administration, for there to be any meaningful cooperation amongst the world nations in dealing with the many varied crisis facing all countries on earth. Also, America’s credibility is at such nadir, that reanimating confidence in America’s commitment to the rule of law, and our own constitution will be an Herculean effort for the Obama. McCain would only further erode America’s already tarnished and tattered standing. A thousand thanks for a highly informative, and I dare say hopeful discussion of idea’s for possible solutions to the myriad crisis and conflicts we all must hazard, endure, and work to resolve.

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  28. Bil says:

    Happy Birthday Steve.
    You honored Clark and were right on Biden.
    Wishing you ANOTHER great year.

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  29. Paul Norheim says:

    Steve,
    I`ve been there since January, and I recommend it: 46 is a nice
    place to walk around for a while. Happy birthday!
    But if you really want to enjoy life in the decades to come, I have
    one simple advice: Festina Lente!
    (Yeah, I know: you`ll do the opposite!)

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