Senator Reid’s Move Ups His Stock Value

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Senator Reid’s clever theatrics of keeping the Senate open all night to do battle with Republicans over Iraq policy is another winner in my book. It was nearly as good a legislative tactic as his Frist-frazzling Rule 21 move.
Many argue that this was a stunt. It wasn’t. It’s hard core politics — the kind Gingrich and Lott and Boehner would frequently deploy on gay rights issues or abortion politics to drag Dems into “symbolic votes” that they hoped would boost Republican fortunes at the polls.
Reid is orchestrating the same — and making it increasingly tough for Republicans who are doggedly committed to leaving American women and women on the front lines of a civil war in Iraq.
As I have written before, many of the tactics deployed by Democratic leadership are designed to embarrass the White House and Republican leadership for their support of a tragically failed Iraq policy but not fashioned to win. In my view, despite the importance of ending this war and bringing people home — for the Dems to win in 2008 and to win big — they need the President and the Republican Party to continue to have this war pinned on them.
If Dems succeeded in getting agreement to bring the troops home in some way — any way — that allows the President to continue to have some leverage in that decision, then the Dems lose political capital in the next race.
This kind of calculation of winners and losers when it comes to people in harm’s way in Iraq is not something anyone wants to admit — but it is happening, and it’s important that people realize that Dems want to be about a better path, better policy in Iraq, but don’t want to win. . .yet.
And the Republicans running in 2008 feel Reid squeezing them. If they revolt against Bush, Reid wins. If they don’t revolt and stay with the President’s course, Reid and the Dems win.
— Steve Clemons

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31 comments on “Senator Reid’s Move Ups His Stock Value

  1. Sandy says:

    Hey, Keith….
    Thank you, POA.

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  2. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Hey Keith. I have a novel suggestion for you;
    Only read the posts you want to read.
    I know, it sounds confusing, but I got faith in ya, I know you can do it. Chin up, fella. Try it, it will open up a whole new world for ya!

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  3. Keith M Ellis says:

    Would people please stop posting excerpts or entire articles from elsewhere in comments? The comments section of a blog is not your own opportunity to blog. It’s to discuss specifically the blog entry. If you have such a burning need to lecture and comment on news items and other blogs, then get your own damn blog. It’s not hard—you can get one for free.

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  4. Sandy says:

    Old-line Republican warns ‘something’s in the works’ to trigger a police state
    Muriel Kane
    Thursday July 19, 2007
    “Thom Hartmann began his program on Thursday by reading from a new Executive Order which allows the government to seize the assets of anyone who interferes with its Iraq policies.
    He then introduced old-line conservative Paul Craig Roberts — a former Assistant Secretary of the Treasury under Reagan who has recently become known for his strong opposition to the Bush administration and the Iraq War — by quoting the “strong words” which open Roberts’ latest column: “Unless Congress immediately impeaches Bush and Cheney,
    a year from now the US could be a dictatorial police state at war with Iran.”
    “I don’t actually think they’re very strong,” said Roberts of his words. “I get a lot of flak that they’re understated and the situation is worse than I say. … When Bush exercises this authority [under the new Executive Order] … there’s no check to it. It doesn’t have to be ratified by Congress. The people who bear the brunt of these dictatorial police state actions have no recourse to the judiciary. So it really is a form of total, absolute, one-man rule. … The American people don’t really understand the danger that they face.”
    Roberts said that because of Bush’s unpopularity, the Republicans face a total wipeout in 2008, and this may be why “the Democrats have not brought a halt to Bush’s follies or the war, because they expect his unpopular policies to provide them with a landslide victory in next year’s election.”
    However, Roberts emphasized, “the problem with this reasoning is that it assumes that Cheney and Rove and the Republicans are ignorant of these facts, or it assumes that they are content for the Republican Party to be destroyed after Bush has his fling.” Roberts believes instead that Cheney and Rove intend to use a renewal of the War on Terror to rally the American people around the Republican Party.
    “Something’s in the works,” he said, adding that the Executive Orders need to create a police state are already in place.
    “The administration figures themselves and prominent Republican propagandists … are preparing us for another 9/11 event or series of events,” Roberts continued.
    “Chertoff has predicted them. … The National Intelligence Estimate is saying that al Qaeda has regrouped. … You have to count on the fact that if al Qaeda’s not going to do it, it’s going to be orchestrated. … The Republicans are praying for another 9/11.”
    Hartmann asked what we as the people can do if impeachment isn’t about to happen.
    “If enough people were suspicious and alert, it would be harder for the administration to get away with it,” Roberts replied.
    However, he added, “I don’t think these wake-up calls are likely to be effective,” pointing out the dominance of the mainstream media.
    “Americans think their danger is terrorists,” said Roberts. “They don’t understand the terrorists cannot take away habeas corpus, the Bill of Rights, the Constitution. … The terrorists are not anything like the threat that we face to the Bill of Rights and the Constitution from our own government in the name of fighting terrorism. Americans just aren’t able to perceive that.”
    Roberts pointed out that it’s old-line Republicans like himself, former Reagan associate deputy attorney general Bruce Fein, and Pat Buchanan who are the diehards in warning of the danger.
    “It’s so obvious to people like us who have long been associated in the corridors of power,” he said. “There’s no belief in the people or anything like that.
    They have agendas. The people are in the way. The Constitution is in the way. … Americans need to comprehend and look at how ruthless Cheney is. … A person like that would do anything.”
    Roberts final suggestion was that, in the absence of a massive popular outcry, “the only constraints on what’s going to happen will come from the federal bureaucracy and perhaps the military. They may have had enough. They may not go along with it.”
    http://tinyurl.com/3x9ztv

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  5. pauline says:

    Reid asleep-at-the-wheel here,too?
    from Paul Craig Roberts —
    In recent weeks Americans have been fed a series of reports from official sources that Iran is arming both Iraqi insurgents and the Taliban in Afghanistan. Experts, both within the government and without, who have been made more attentive by the Bush Regime’s false charges of Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, have disputed the news reports.
    But the reports keep on coming. As I write, the latest story is that the U.S. military “discovered a field of rocket launchers near a U.S. Army base south of Baghdad armed with 34 Iranian-made missiles.” Can you imagine? The insurgents went to the trouble of lugging powerful missiles within striking distance of a U.S. base and just left them there unfired to be discovered by the Americans. To further serve Cheney’s plan to attack Iran, the media report states: “Earlier this month, U.S. commanders stepped up the charges [against Iran], claiming that senior leaders of Iran’s special forces and of the Lebanese Shi’ite Hezbollah militia have trained Iraqi fighters and provided other support.”
    Notice that none of the explanations fed to Americans over the years have ever mentioned, even as a faint possibility, that the U.S. invasion and occupation of Iraq might be the cause of the violence in Iraq.
    Allegedly, the U.S. is a free and open country with a free press and a government accountable to the people. Yet the information fed to the American people is as thoroughly false as that fed to the citizens of Oceania by Big Brother through the Ministry of Truth in Orwell’s famous novel.
    http://antiwar.com/roberts/

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  6. Kathleen says:

    Democratz have the fatal flaw of not being able to use the English language to their own advantage.
    If they trully wanted to end the war, they should not have used words which could easilly be construed to mean, turning tail, cutting and running, defeat, etc.
    There was and is a perfectly good way to end this. Iraqis voted, elected a gov’t, and they in turn proposed a peace plan which included an agreement with the Sunnis to lay down their arms.
    WHY, WHY. WHY, did we not accept this plan? Where the hell are the Dems on supporting this “democratically” elected gov’t?
    Instead of calling for withdrawal, timetables, redeploying troops etc. Dems should be coming out in support of the Iraqis’ peace plan. Then we could withdraw by peace accord. Duh-uh.
    But then of course, if Dems want that Iraqi Oil Law passed, they are going to foot drag on getting out until after it is passed. Well, you can’t have it both ways, Demz. We can see through this ruse.
    In any case, UN Security Council authorization for Coalition Forces to remain in Iraq is about to expire in December. They can only extend this authorization by invitation of the Iraqi gov’t. In other words, the decision is not Busholini’s or Congress’ to make. It is for Iraq and the UNSC to make that call.
    Of course we have the might to do whatever, regardless, but that would be a damned hard sell.

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  7. Don says:

    Reid’s approach is sound except that the media didn’t report it correctly, carefully avoiding the term filibuster. When the Republican majority used it, the media trashed Democrats for even considering filibuster. So while I support its continuued use as a strategy to expose Republican recalcitrance, its effectiveness in convincing the public depends on more accurate media coverage.

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  8. Carroll says:

    Posted by Sandy at July 19, 2007 04:32 PM
    >>>>>>>>
    I have noticed that the KIll Iran and ALL Muslims campaign has really ratched up this month.
    I wish I had kept a diary of daily events of propganda for the past 6 years… I could polish it up a bit and publish it as the Rise and Fall of the Fourth Reich.

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  9. Carroll says:

    Let’ get to the important stuff, like how both the dems and repubs lie about why we should not leave Iraq too soon and are drawing this thing out.
    Now read this and ask yourself several things..
    1) are the Sunni being honest about their intentions?
    2) if we do get out will they eventually take in the Shia and come to some agreement with the insurgents when they are not longer seen as tools of the US occupation?
    And then ask ..”SO WHAT”.. if they are lying or not?
    “SO WHAT”… if they continue the same bloodbaths?
    Do we have a better plan?
    Will staying change anything in the event they are lying about their intentions? Or just postpone it for another year?
    So who you want to put your money on for a stragety?……the insurgents or the Bush-Lieberman gang who are back to using AQ in Iraq and laying the ground for attacking Iran.
    “Insurgents form political front to plan for US pullout”
    Leaders of Iraqi groups say attacks will go on until Americans leave
    Seumas Milne in Damascus
    Thursday July 19, 2007
    The Guardian
    Seven of the most important Sunni-led insurgent organisations fighting the US occupation in Iraq have agreed to form a public political alliance with the aim of preparing for negotiations in advance of an American withdrawal, their leaders have told the Guardian.
    In their first interview with the western media since the US-British invasion of 2003, leaders of three of the insurgent groups – responsible for thousands of attacks against US and Iraqi armed forces and police – said they would continue their armed resistance until all foreign troops were withdrawn from Iraq, and denounced al-Qaida for sectarian killings and suicide bombings against civilians.
    Speaking in Damascus, the spokesmen for the three groups – the 1920 Revolution Brigades, Ansar al-Sunna and Iraqi Hamas – said they planned to hold a congress to launch a united front and appealed to Arab governments, other governments and the UN to help them establish a permanent political presence outside Iraq.
    Abu Ahmad, spokesman for Iraqi Hamas said: “Peaceful resistance will not end the occupation. The US made clear it intended to stay for many decades. Now it is a common view in the resistance that they will start to withdraw within a year. ”
    The move represents a dramatic change of strategy for the mainstream Iraqi insurgency, whose leadership has remained shadowy and has largely restricted communication with the world to brief statements on the internet and Arabic media.
    The last three months have been the bloodiest for US forces, with 331 deaths and 2,029 wounded, as the 28,000-strong “surge” in troop numbers exposes them to more attacks.
    Leaders of the three groups, who did not use their real names in the interview, said the new front, which brings together the main Sunni-based armed organisations except al-Qaida and the Ba’athists, had agreed the main planks of a joint political programme, including a commitment to free Iraq from foreign troops, rejection of cooperation with parties involved in political institutions set up under the occupation and a declaration that decisions and agreements made by the US occupation and Iraqi government are null and void.
    The aim of the alliance – which includes a range of Islamist and nationalist-leaning groups and is planned to be called the Political Office for the Iraqi Resistance – is to link up with other anti-occupation groups in Iraq to negotiate with the Americans in anticipation of an early US withdrawal. The programme envisages a temporary technocratic government to run the country during a transition period until free elections can be held.
    The insurgent groups deny support from any foreign government, including Syria, but claim they have been offered and rejected funding and arms from Iran. They say they have been under pressure from Saudi Arabia and Turkey to unite. “We are the only resistance movement in modern history which has received no help or support from any other country,” Abdallah Suleiman Omary, head of the political department of the 1920 Revolution Brigades, told the Guardian. “The reason is we are fighting America.”
    All three Sunni-based resistance leaders say they are acutely aware of the threat posed by sectarian division to the future of Iraq and emphasised the importance of working with Shia groups – but rejected any link with the Shia militia and parties because of their participation in the political institutions set up by the Americans and their role in sectarian killings.
    Abd al-Rahman al-Zubeidy, political spokesman of Ansar al-Sunna, a salafist (purist Islamic) group with a particularly violent reputation in Iraq, said his organisation had split over relations with al-Qaida, whose members were mostly Iraqi, but its leaders largely foreigners.
    “Resistance isn’t just about killing Americans without aims or goals. Our people have come to hate al-Qaida, which gives the impression to the outside world that the resistance in Iraq are terrorists. We are against indiscriminate killing, fighting should be concentrated only on the enemy,” he said. He added: “A great gap has opened up between Sunni and Shia under the occupation and al-Qaida has contributed to that.”
    Wayne White, of Washington’s Middle East Institute and a former expert adviser to the Iraq Study Group, said it was unclear, given the diversity within the Sunni Arab insurgency, what influence the new grouping would have on the ground.
    He added: “This does reveal that despite the widening cooperation on the part of some Sunni Arab insurgent groups with US forces against al-Qaida in recent months, such cooperation could prove very shortlived if the US does not make clear that it has a credible exit strategy.
    “With the very real potential for a more full-blown civil war breaking out in the wake of a substantial reduction of the US military presence in Iraq, Shia and Kurds appreciate that the increased ability of Sunni Arabs to organise politically and assemble in larger armed formations as a result of such cooperation could confront them with a considerably more formidable challenge as time goes on.”

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  10. Sandy says:

    Christopher Hitchens would be smiling reading that. “You can’t say I didn’t tell you so…” he would say.

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  11. Sandy says:

    And, here is a big part of it — the groups everyone’s afraid of come(re)-election time:
    http://www2.boomantribune.com/story/2007/7/19/121910/569
    Kill Iran! Kill! Kill! Kill!
    by Steven D
    Thu Jul 19th, 2007 at 03:24:43 PM EST
    Iran is at war with the free world.
    It is the the Devil’s human face on earth, the axle rod of evil, the “country which must be named” as the Nemesis of all that is right and holy in the world. Iran is Germany under Hitler, and it’s preparing to carry out another Holocaust of the Jews. And it must die! Die Iran! Die!
    The following is my paraphrase of the message delivered by Israel’s envoy to the United States, Ambassador Sallai Meridor, to a gathering of American fundamentalist rapture enthusiasts yesterday. I confess, I ratcheted up the Honorable Ambassador’s rhetoric to make a point. But not by much:
    Israel’s ambassador to the United States, Sallai Meridor, said Wednesday that Israel and the free world are under attack by Iran, with a combination of fanaticism, terrorism and nuclear capability posing the most serious threat since the 1930s.
    “We must prevent this nightmare,” Meridor said at the “Night to Honor Israel” event, part of the second annual Christians United for Israel summit in Washington, D.C. “The world must act and act now.”
    Meridor said Israel would take any steps necessary to ensure that Iran does not develop a nuclear bomb. “All options are on the table, and no matter what, they will not be able to get a nuclear weapon,” he said.
    And to whom was he delivering his message of gloom and doom? “Christians United for Israel” (CUFI) is described in the Haaretz article as an “umbrella” organization “for all pro-Israel Christian groups” in America….” excerpt

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  12. Sandy says:

    Lying…boldfacedly. Tony Snow as Baghdad Bob. “There are no soldiers at the airport…”
    David N. you stated it exactly for me. Exactly.
    In reading posts like this one, I think it’s important to stand back and look at what is happening….in context. The context of the erosion of the rule of law in this country….along with a lot of other things we have always valued….like the Constitution, etc.
    These small events don’t mean much when one takes the long view of the destruction THAT HAS BEEN ALLOWED TO HAPPEN.
    I just shake my head when reading anything about Bush thinking about his “legacy”. Thinking about it in grandiose terms. Some fantasy he has.
    Meanwhile, for those of you who live in California and/or are interested in some of the CRIMES and COVER-UP that began back at the beginning of this administration — allowing the big energy companies to write our national energy policy (so-called)….you may want to read this:
    http://tinyurl.com/2y2asf
    Cheney Suppressed Evidence in California Energy Crisis
    Thu, 2007-07-19 Evidence
    “In-depth investigation shows how Vice President Dick Cheney pressured federal energy regulators to conceal evidence of widespread market manipulation by energy companies during the California electricity crisis in 2001…..” excerpt
    In the big picture….later on….looking back….we won’t be much interested in Harry Reid’s all-nighter.
    We will wonder how in HELL it was that no one impeached these bastards.

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  13. daCascadian says:

    David N >”…both parties are starting to look like criminal enterprises…”
    They have ALWAYS been such, it is just getting harder & harder to hide the fact from the uninformed & uncurious
    Never mind the man behind those curtains over there we call the media & ignore the strings coming from those puppets on that stage we label our government
    “Everyday reality now is a complete fiction, manufactured by the media landscape and we operate inside it.” – JG Ballard

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  14. ExBrit says:

    “this is not a time for letting the “calculations of winners and losers” override doing what’s right for the country.”
    It’s too bad you’re mad at the Dems because they aren’t pure enough for you. Fact is: the only solutions left in Iraq are bad ones. The best and quickest way out of Iraq is to hang it around the Republicans’ necks. That IS the right thing to do. If you want to see better foreign policy – think strategically.

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  15. Carroll says:

    Yea, we’ve noticed the dems don’t want to win ..yet.
    We also noticed how they aren’t fighting the move to eventually attack Iran.

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  16. Carroll says:

    Funny thing..
    This morning I was talking to a grandmother who is not a net person. Her 12 year old grandson whose father is military came over to her house the other day and ask her if she believed what she saw on the TV news channels. He told her to come to his house where his computer is because he wanted to show her how the government and news was lying to everyone.

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  17. selise says:

    “…it’s important that people realize that Dems want to be about a better path, better policy in Iraq, but don’t want to win. . .yet.”
    i do realize this. and that’s why i (a democrat) am so very pissed off at the Dems. this is not a time for letting the “calculations of winners and losers” override doing what’s right for the country.
    where-oh-where can we find some statesmen and stateswomen (of any party) who will step up and put country before party and self?

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  18. Erica says:

    According to the Borgen Project,over 50% of the U.S’s budget is spent on National Defense, which is going to the effort in Iraq. So instead of trying to place the blame via Senate floor, they should be solving the problem and ending the huge loss of money on this war, which has clearly not ended.

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  19. pauline says:

    Reid and Hillary may not have bunked down together on the Senate cots, but if they make any surprise visits to Iraq’s Green Zone, they’ll now be wearing vests and helmets! (except, of course, for photo ops)
    “State orders flak jackets in Baghdad’s Green Zone”
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/iraq/story/17960.html

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  20. weldon berger says:

    It’s a neat trick that Reid gets to score points off Republicans for filibustering an amendment that wouldn’t have any real impact on our involvement in Iraq even if it passed, but why, exactly, did Democrats vote nearly unanimously for the Cornyn amendment, which is a “sense of the Senate” resolution that really bad things will happen if we withdraw?
    Most Democrats are still not in the least bit serious about getting out, and nothing the leadership is doing, including, emphatically, measures like Levin’s, advances that goal.

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  21. Kathleen says:

    Better late than never, I guess, but I wish Democratz had shown more guts from the git go. We’d be so much further along towards withdrawing our troops if they hadn’t been so delusional about bipartisan horsecrap.
    Instead, they launched their schmoozathon, taking impeachment off the table For starters, this adminstration only understands one thing: Self interest. Therefore they need a very real and serious threat over their sorry heads.
    Cheaper by the dozen as the saying goes, so when it comes to transgressions by Dopey and Darth, I say let’s bundle our grievances and impeach them… solve all the issues at once.
    Just get it the fuck over with, already.
    Wake me when Reid says the I word.

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  22. WhatBillOfRights says:

    Unless one of us is auto-typing in a trance state, I don’t think that Pissed Off American is me or that I am him. But you flatter me to conflate us.
    Since I have personal responsibility to castigate *my* Senator McCain, as well as people who refer to themselves as *Christians*, over legislative issues, here’s a couple articles for all the anti-Zionists and/or patriotic Americans out there (most courtesy of the excellent antiwar.com):
    Entire articles at links:
    * Senate Roll Call on Iraq Vote
    http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2007/07/18/national/w100357D94.DTL
    * Israel’s envoy to U.S.: Free world is under attack by Iran (Ha’aretz 7/19/07)
    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/883947.html
    * Democrats Won’t Force New War Vote (WaPo 7/19/07)
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/18/AR2007071800482_pf.html
    * Al-Qaida’s man in Iraq unveiled as fictional character
    U.S. military says an Iraqi actor had portrayed the nonexistent leader (Houston Chronicle 7/19/07)
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/headline/world/4980195.html
    * Sen. McCain tells Israel supporters U.S. withdrawal from Iraq would be disaster
    (AP 7/17/07)
    WASHINGTON: Republican presidential hopeful John McCain on Tuesday told Christian evangelical supporters of Israel that withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq now would be “one of the most catastrophic and consequential disasters for this nation.”
    The Arizona senator addressed Christians United for Israel as the Senate began what is expected to be an all-night debate on a measure that would require the U.S. to bring troops home later this year.
    http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/07/17/america/NA-POL-US-McCain-Iraq.php
    * Christian Zionists: Ahmadinejad is new Hitler
    Christians United for Israel call on US to attack Iran immediately, move US Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem as sign of support
    (Ynet news,Yitzhak Benhorin and AP 7/18/07)
    WASHINGTON – Thousands of members of Christians United for Israel headed to Capitol Hill on Wednesday to lobby Congress on behalf of the Jewish state.
    http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3427247,00.html
    But here’s the scariest one of all:
    U.S. threatens action in Pakistan
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/world/story/18140.html

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  23. pauline says:

    How will Reid protect us from a made-up Iraqi bogeyman?
    from Emptywheel —
    “But I gotta say, as someone whose credentials for analyzing all things postmodern are impeccable, this makes me dizzy.”
    “In March, he was declared captured. In May, he was declared killed, and his purported corpse was displayed on state-run TV. But on Wednesday, Abu Omar Baghdadi, the supposed leader of an Al Qaeda-affiliated group in Iraq, was declared nonexistent by U.S. military officials, who said he was a fictional character created to give an Iraqi face to a foreign-run terrorist organization.
    An Iraqi actor has been used to read statements attributed to Baghdadi, who since October has been identified as the leader of the Islamic State of Iraq group, said U.S. Army Brig. Gen. Kevin Bergner.
    Bergner said the new information came from a man captured July 4, described as the highest-ranking Iraqi within the Islamic State of Iraq.
    He said the detainee, identified as Khalid Abdul Fatah Daud Mahmoud Mashadani, has served as a propaganda chief in the organization, a Sunni Muslim insurgent group that swears allegiance to Osama bin Laden’s Al Qaeda.”
    “Here’s our shameless propaganda chief, claiming that their shameless propaganda chief invented a bogeyman that we could then say we had captured. Because it’s not like we’ve invented such bogeymans for our own use, nuh uh, not us. And conveniently, this little hall of mirrors ends up right back where BushCo would like to have us, with the claim that Al Qaeda in Iraq is Al Qaeda is the War on Terror is the never-ending war is the big bogeyman no one seems to care about anymore.”
    http://thenexthurrah.typepad.com/the_next_hurrah/contributoremptywheel/index.html

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  24. David N says:

    The fact is, all the theatrics and posturing are beside the point.
    In a way, the Iraq occupation is beside the point.
    Bush and his accompanying planet, Cheney, have found the secret to governing the country without having to pay attention to pesky inconveniences like the law. Not only do Democrats want to “embarrass” them for their lawessness, the want to preserve the lawless structure so that they can use it themselves after they win the next election along with keeping or adding to their majority in Congress.
    They figure that, as the party in power, enough of the media will pander to them that they can overcome the corporate media control and get away with just as much shit as the Republican cabal now in the White House. The only question will come down to, will Democratic vote-stealing be enough to overcome Republican vote-stealing, because both parties are starting to look like criminal enterprises.
    The only — only — means of returning our government to the rule of law is impeachment. Not for the sake of the troops. For the sake of our country, our laws, our Constitution. Followed be criminal indictments, as if either one will happen.
    Otherwise, we are no longer a country that can be included in the Princeton Project standards of a country of “Liberty under Law.”
    Gödel was right.

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  25. Punchy says:

    “It is beyond me how anyone can respect or laud these kinds of empty theatrics while Bush and his cabinet thumb their nose at the law, Congressional oversight, and the American people. Are you daft?”
    POA, you’re being seriously ridiculous. You’re saying the DEMS were embarrassed by the all-nighter? What planet do you reside on? The Republicans came off looking like chumps. 28% Bush-lovin’ lacheys.
    And please quit acting as if the Dems hold Some Magical Mystical Power that they’re simply unwilling to utilize. They have a ONE SEAT majority, nullified by Joe Liebe(R)man. So quit with the hysterics and recognize there’s a very limited amount of things the Dems can actually try, and Ried is all over most of ’em.
    Golf clap for Harry.

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  26. salmo says:

    Well, he knocked Sue Collins off the fence. That is a good beginning.

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  27. bakho says:

    Bush is conducting a “body count” strategy in Iraq. Think “body counts” went out with Vietnam? All the Bush rhetoric indicates he believes that we win if we kill enough “Bad guys”. Iraq is the Bush “bad guy killing zone”.

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  28. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “It’s not that the Dems don’t want to win this fight, it’s that they know they CAN’T win this fight with Bush in office wielding the veto, so they’ve set out to make the best of it and embarrass the Republicans.”
    You must not of watched it either. Trust me, it wasn’t the Republicans that werre “embarrassed” by this charade.
    It is beyond me how anyone can respect or laud these kinds of empty theatrics while Bush and his cabinet thumb their nose at the law, Congressional oversight, and the American people. Are you daft?

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  29. Zach says:

    It’s not that the Dems don’t want to win this fight, it’s that they know they CAN’T win this fight with Bush in office wielding the veto, so they’ve set out to make the best of it and embarrass the Republicans. I think it’s a great tactic. They gain nothing by equivocating and neither do the troops, the Iraqis, or the American people.

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  30. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Meanwhile, Rice ignores a congressional subpoena. Gonzales does the same. Bush declares open season on the checks and balances. Cheney declares himself a sovereign nation.
    How’d Reid’s last theatrical charade work out? You know, the one where Roberts neutered Reid? When was the last time you saw Reid mention Phase Two?
    This so called “slumber party” was an embarrassment, and proved once again just how toothless and inadequate this so called “opposition party” is. I watched it, Steve. Did you? It was a sham. At times there were only two senators participating, while the others were off napping. If this kind of empty horseshit is what “raises the stock value” of these posturing frauds, then this country is in deeper shit than even I realize.

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  31. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “And the Republicans running in 2008 feel Reid squeezing them. If they revolt against Bush, Reid wins. If they don’t revolt and stay with the President’s course, Reid and the Dems win.”
    — Steve Clemons
    Yeah right, its all just a clever ruse. I mean, after all, look how clever they’ve been for seven years now.
    You need to get out of Washington, Steve. Either that, or consider therapy.

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