Obama Should Publicly Endorse Fayyad’s Statehood Plan

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This is a guest note by Fadi Elsalameen, Executive Director of The Palestine Note, the website where this post originally appeared.
I have been in the West Bank for the past two weeks meeting with several members of the Palestinian leadership about the peace process, Palestinian state-building, and the role of the United States in moving both peace and independence forward. My conversations with Palestinian Authority (PA) President Mahmoud Abbas, PM Salam Fayyad, Ahmad Qurei, and Mohammad Dahlan were very illuminating.
President Abbas is taking negotiation setbacks in stride. Upon asking the president, “How are you?” he dryly replied: “Not very, very, very bad – just very bad.”
Abbas continues to wait for a response from US President Barack Obama. President Abbas says he wants to hear about “[Obama’s] vision for our talks with the Israelis. We would like to have more clarity from the Americans on what it is they will support [in our] negotiating with the Israelis. [PA Prime Minister Salam] Fayyad and I have been building Palestinian institutions; I have fulfilled all our obligations for the road map.” By the look on his face, it’s clear Abbas is disappointed by Washington’s inaction.
Hurtles to the peace process – settlement expansion, the Heritage Trail row – demonstrate a considerable challenge, but Abbas made it plain that with all the uncertainties about the future of Palestinian-Israeli peace, one thing is certain: “I will not allow violence, I am committed to peace with Israel.”
Ahmed Qurei (Abu Ala), former PA chief negotiator, is not as optimistic. Said Qurei: “I am for negotiations, but over what exactly? Over settlements?… Over Jerusalem? How can we [move forward] if the Israelis are building [settlements] as we negotiate? How can we [talk] if Israel is taking more land and building on what we would be negotiating over with them?”
Senior Fatah official Mohammad Dahlan reiterates the need for America to voice clear expectations and parameters for the peace process. “Americans have to give us a clear sense of what it is they can support in negotiations with Israel. We can’t just jump into negotiations without knowing what it is we are going to negotiate over. Obama should present something like the Clinton Parameters or the Road Map.”
Prime Minister Fayyad looks to the challenges beyond negotiations: “Even if we were to gain political independence, we need to be ready as a state. The political track is important, but it is not the only [avenue we need to focus on].” But the PA’s achievements have been many, and Fayyad does not forget to count them: “We completed 1,000 projects in the past year. By 2011, we will complete 2,000 more projects. We are building hospitals, roads, schools, juridical system, forcing rule of law, et cetera… In 2011, we will be ready for a Palestinian state, whether the political track is [set] or not.” Fayyad has been lauded as a “technocrat’s technocrat” for his focus on statecraft over rhetoric, getting even the Israelis behind him when he spoke at the Herzilya conference. Now all he needs is Obama.
It is crucial that the Obama administration propose its vision for a Palestinian state consistent with Fayyad’s game plan as soon as possible, and the US needs to articulate to Israelis and Palestinians the kind of state it will endorse. Obama’s public support of Fayyad’s road map to statehood will also likely further the peace process, giving both Abbas and Netanyahu a reason to come back to the negotiating table without getting mired in the settlement freeze row.
Obama’s endorsement could be the best solution to the deadlock.
— Fadi Elsalameen

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28 comments on “Obama Should Publicly Endorse Fayyad’s Statehood Plan

  1. nadine says:

    sc, You are correct, Ben Ami was FM. My mistake. And he did say that at Taba Israel had never been closer to a deal. But “never closer” does not mean close. As for the Israeli elections, if Arafat didn’t like Arik Sharon, then maybe he shouldn’t have elected him.
    You seem to have missed the interview that Ben Ami gave to Haaretz in September 2001, in which he described his dawning realization that the Palestinians weren’t just holding out for a better deal, they were fundamentally unable to compromise. Bear in mind that before this interview, Ben Ami was firmly positioned in Israeli politics as a man of the left, a dove:
    “Question: Shlomo Ben-Ami, what were the assumptions that guided you and theprime minister, Ehud Barak, when you set out, in the spring of 2000, toterminate the Israeli-Palestinian conflict?
    Answer: “We had a number of working assumptions, but I think the most important of them was the basic assumption that has been shared by the Americans, the Europeans and the Israeli center-left for years: that Oslo created a rational order in the Middle East based on give-and-take, which in the future would lead to an acceptable compromise; that in 1993 a quasi-state of the Palestinians was established, in terms of orderly international relations. In retrospect, this turned out to be a mistaken assumption, It turned out that for [Palestinian leader Yasser] Arafat it was a huge camouflage net behind which he fomented, and continues to foment, political pressure and terrorism in different dosages in order to underminethe very idea of two states for two nations.”

    Question: Didn’t the Palestinians make a counterproposal?
    Answer: “No. And that is the heart of the matter. Never, in the negotiations between us and the Palestinians, was there a Palestinian counterproposal. There never was and there never will be. So the Israeli negotiator always finds himself in a dilemma: Either I get up and walk out because these guys aren’t ready to put forward proposals of their own, or I make another concession. In the end, even the most moderate negotiator reaches a point where he understands that there is no end to it.”

    Question: Still, in the wake of this dynamic, the Camp David conference became the Jerusalem conference. Isn’t it the case that you didn’t reach a binding territorial agreement, you didn’t formulate a solution for the refugee question, all you did was divide Jerusalem?
    Answer: “That is not completely accurate. It’s true that there was a regression at Camp David on the question of the refugees, but the feeling was that there was flexibility on the territorial issue – that the peace would not stand or fall on this issue. And in the security group, there were very positive discussions that advanced the process. The concept of a multinational force was crystallized. I also do not accept the argument that we divided the city at Camp David. The decision on the division of Jerusalem came only with the acceptance of Clinton’s parameters five months later.
    “You have to understand one thing: we at Camp David were moving toward a division in practice but with the aspiration of reaching an agreement that didn’t look like a division. The big problem there was that the Palestinians weren’t willing to help us with that. They weren’t ready for any face-saving formulation for the Israelis. Not on the issue of the Temple Mount, not on sovereignty, not on anything. Arafat did not agree to anything that was not a complete division at Camp David. Therefore, even Bob Malley, whom everyone now likes to quote, told me at some stage that the Palestinians simply want to humiliate us. `They want to humiliate you’ were his words.” [The reference is to an article by Hussein Agha and Robert Malley – a member of the U.S. peace team and a special assistant to President Clinton – “Camp David: The Tragedy of Errors,” The New York Review of Books, August 9,2001.]

    Question: Shlomo Ben-Ami, you and Ehud Barak set out on a journey to the bowels of the earth, as it were, to the very heart of the conflict. What did you find?
    Answer: “I think that we found a few difficult things. First of all, regarding Arafat, we discovered that he does not have the ability to convey to his Israeli interlocutors that the process of making concessions has an end. His strategy is one of conflict.”
    Question: Are you saying that he is not a partner?
    Answer: “Arafat is the leader of the Palestinians. I cannot change this fact; it is their disaster. He is so loyal to his truth that he cannot compromise it. But his truth is the truth of the Islamic ethos, the ethos of refugees and victimization. This truth does not allow him to end his negotiations with Israel unless Israel breaks its neck. So in this particular aspect, Arafat is not a partner. Worse, Arafat is a strategic threat; he endangers peace in the Middle East and in the world.”
    Question: So he still does not recognize Israel’s right to exist?
    Answer: “Arafat’s concession vis-a-vis Israel at Oslo was a formal concession. Morally and conceptually, he didn’t recognize Israel’s right toexist. He doesn’t accept the idea of two states for two peoples. He may be able to make some sort of partial, temporary settlement with us – though I have doubts about that, too – but at the deep level, he doesn’t accept us. Neither he nor the Palestinian national movement accept us.”
    Question: Your criticism goes beyond Arafat personally to include also the Palestinian national movement as a whole?
    Answer: “Yes. Intellectually, I can understand their logic. I understand that from their point of view, they ceded 78 percent [of historic Palestine]at Oslo, so the rest is theirs. I understand that from their point of view,the process is one of decolonization, and therefore they are not going to make a compromise with us, just as the residents of Congo would not compromise with the Belgians.
    “But when all is said and done, after eight months of negotiations, I reach the conclusion that we are in a confrontation with a national movement in which there are serious pathological elements. It is a very sad movement, a very tragic movement, which at its core doesn’t have the ability to set itself positive goals.
    “At the end of the process, it is impossible not to form the impression that the Palestinians don’t want a solution as much as they want to place Israel in the dock of the accused. They want to denounce our state more than they want their own state. At the deepest level they have a negative ethos. This is why unlike Zionism, they are unable to compromise….”
    http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/benami2.html

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  2. sanitychecker says:

    Nadine: Please get your facts right. First, Ben-Ami was never DM. He was FM in 00-01. Second, he stated at Taba that Israel had never been closer to striking a deal. Third, oops, you forget about the Israeli elections that followed.
    This is weak stuff, Nadine. Please promise me to reread the Hasbara playbook before going to bed tonight. You’re slipping.

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  3. nadine says:

    The two-state solution has been dead since 2000, when Arafat made it clear that he didn’t want it on any terms that would leave Israel standing. This was the conclusion of the doves in Labor, Ehud Barak (then PM, now DM) and Shlomo ben Ami (then DM). The hawks in Likud said, “told you so”.
    Since then we have only seen a zombie peace process, propped up as club to hit Israel with. Since 2006, there isn’t even one Palestinian entity to negotiate with. But who cares, negotiation isn’t the point, only unilateral Israeli concessions. Israel is wise to the game now.

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  4. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Netanyahu does it: kills two-state solution dead
    MJ Rosenberg
    This is from Ha’aretz today: “Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said Tuesday that Israel would never agree to withdraw from the Jordan Valley under any peace agreement signed with the Palestinians.”
    The Jordan Valley is the area on the far east side of the West Bank, adjacent to Jordan.
    So here is what Netanyahu says Israel will never give up for a Palestinian state: (1) the entire area of East Jerusalem, massively expanded by Israel to include hundreds of thousands of Palestinians — along with the holy sites of the Old City (2) all West Bank cities and settlements near Israel which will be incorporated into Israel itself (3) the huge city of Ariel smack dab in the middle of the West Bank.
    Now, remember, Israel, without any of the occupied areas or East Jerusalem constitutes 78% of historic Palestine. The Palestinians want the other 22% to be their state, no more but no less.
    Netanyahu is now ruling out a sizable chunk of that 22%, making any kind of Palestinian state impossible.
    The silence from Washington should be deafening.
    http://palestinenote.com/cs/blogs/blogs/archive/2010/03/03/netanyahu-does-it-kills-two-state-solution-dead.aspx
    It should be obvious to even the most casual observer that Netanyahu is actively ruling out any chance at peace, or a two state solution. His actions these last few months are so inflamatory, so blatantly designed to derail the process, thatr it impossible to imagine that he will negotiate in good faith. And why should he? Despite Obama’s tepid attempt at even handedness, the main body politik in the United States, through its recent actioons, demonstrated fully that the cards are stacked in Israel’s favor, and we will tolerate and even condone Netanyahu’s crimes, abuses, intransigence, and arrogance. Certainly, this pathetic and embarrassing AIPAC queen Hillary Clinton has demonstrated the the State Department is willing to openly ignore Obama’s policy advocations both in regards to Isr/Pal and Syria.
    In truth, the whole idea of United States’ participation in any so-called “talks” is laughable at best. When have we ever shown a willingness to mediate in an unbiased manner? And with Hillary at State, the prospects for unbiased mediation are non-existent.

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  5. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Interesting how Birnbaum skirted responding to my request that he supply a logical reason that Hamas would kill those people. Also, of note, is his lack of comment about Corrie, Anderson, or the Liberty.

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  6. PissedOffAmerican says:

    And another one of Nadine’s compatriots proudly flies his colors. Why is it that the slimiest and most detestable posters that drop in to this site are always staunchly pro-Israel????

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  7. marcus says:

    POA as for you I would like nothing better than if you F…ED off. preferably over in Iran, you would make a great human sheild (if nothing much else)

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  8. marcus says:

    POA I never said carroll LIKED taking it up the ass by arabs, what I said was that she did the dirty deed because, like most anti-semites she gravitates to the dark side,relishes death and death-cults,murder (she advocates murder often)and cruelty. She loves the base and violent nature of that particular sex-act. Its what and who she/he is

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  9. Carroll says:

    Speaking of Peliso, who I absolutely abhor, I would like to remind readers that she was the sponsor of resolution recognizing Israel’s right to “defend itself against attacks from Gaza”…and she did it on the 14th day of Israel’s 2008 bombing and slaughtering of Gaza.
    By the 14th day pictures had already been front paged in my local newspaper of the dead children in Gaza.
    If any people on the face of the earth have a right to hate America it is the Palestines.
    In October of 2008, two months before Israel attacked Gaza we sent Israel an additional $280 million in fuel (at U.S. taxpayers’ expense)
    We even paid the cost of shipping the fuel from U.S. refineries in Texas to ports in Israel.
    They used that fuel we gave them to fly the planes we gave them to bomb Gaza.
    Karma is going to be pure hell for some people.(s).

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  10. Carroll says:

    Posted by larry birnbaum, Mar 05 2010, 11:17AM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    This was the only mention of Rachel Corrie’s killing by Israel in the US Congress. No investigation was called for.
    Tell me what you don’t see.
    What you don’t see is any sponsors names on there that are the same names as those on all the resolutions for Israel.
    Not even the head of the house Peliso.
    There is no secret conspiracy, it’s quite open.
    We have politicans in our government who place a higher value on Israel’s desires than American lives or justice. They won’t even so much as acknowledge or pay their respects because she was murdered by Israel and not Hamas.
    H.CON.RES.111
    Title: Expressing sympathy for the loss of Rachel Corrie in the Palestinian village of Rafah in the Gaza Strip on March 16, 2003.
    Sponsor: Rep Baird, Brian [WA-3] (introduced 3/25/2003) Cosponsors (77)
    Latest Major Action: 3/25/2003 Referred to House committee. Status: Referred to the House Committee on International Relations.
    ——————————————————————————–
    COSPONSORS(77), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
    Rep Abercrombie, Neil [HI-1] – 3/31/2003 Rep Baldwin, Tammy [WI-2] – 5/15/2003
    Rep Bell, Chris [TX-25] – 11/20/2003 Rep Blumenauer, Earl [OR-3] – 4/3/2003
    Rep Camp, Dave [MI-4] – 4/29/2003 Rep Capps, Lois [CA-23] – 3/25/2003
    Rep Carson, Julia [IN-7] – 9/14/2004 Rep Clay, Wm. Lacy [MO-1] – 9/23/2004
    Rep Conyers, John, Jr. [MI-14] – 9/3/2003
    Rep Cummings, Elijah E. [MD-7] – 7/22/2004
    Rep Davis, Danny K. [IL-7] – 5/20/2003
    Rep DeFazio, Peter A. [OR-4] – 4/29/2003
    Rep Dicks, Norman D. [WA-6] – 3/25/2003 Rep Dingell, John D. [MI-15] – 4/3/2003
    Rep Doggett, Lloyd [TX-10] – 5/21/2003
    Rep Dunn, Jennifer [WA-8] – 4/3/2003
    Rep Eshoo, Anna G. [CA-14] – 3/25/2003
    Rep Etheridge, Bob [NC-2] – 7/23/
    Rep Farr, Sam [CA-17] – 10/28/2003
    Rep Grijalva, Raul M. [AZ-7] – 6/2/2003
    Rep Hinchey, Maurice D. [NY-22] – 9/22/2004
    Rep Holt, Rush D. [NJ-12] – 9/3/2003
    Rep Honda, Michael M. [CA-15] – 3/25/2003
    Rep Hooley, Darlene [OR-5] – 3/29/2004 Rep Inslee, Jay [WA-1] – 3/25/2003
    Rep Issa, Darrell E. [CA-49] – 6/26/2003
    Rep Jackson, Jesse L., Jr. [IL-2] – 5/5/2003
    Rep Jackson-Lee, Sheila [TX-18] – 9/24/2003
    Rep Johnson, Eddie Bernice [TX-30] – 6/26/2003
    Rep Kennedy, Patrick J. [RI-1] – 4/8/2003
    Rep Kilpatrick, Carolyn C. [MI-13] – 6/2/2003
    Rep Kind, Ron [WI-3] – 5/13/2003 Rep Kleczka, Gerald D. [WI-4] – 9/22/2004
    Rep Kucinich, Dennis J. [OH-10] – 5/1/2003
    Rep LaHood, Ray [IL-18] – 7/8/2003
    Rep Larsen, Rick [WA-2] – 3/25/2003
    Rep Leach, James A. [IA-2] – 3/16/2004
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    Rep Miller, George [CA-7] – 4/29/2003
    Rep Moran, James P. [VA-8] – 5/13/2003
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    Rep Neal, Richard E. [MA-2] – 3/16/2004
    Rep Norton, Eleanor Holmes [DC] – 6/10/2003
    Rep Oberstar, James L. [MN-8] – 6/10/2003
    Rep Olver, John W. [MA-1] – 4/29/2003
    Rep Osborne, Tom [NE-3] – 5/5/2004
    Rep Pascrell, Bill, Jr. [NJ-8] – 7/20/2004
    Rep Pastor, Ed [AZ-4] – 6/25/2004
    Rep Payne, Donald M. [NJ-10] – 2/3/2004
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    Rep Rahall, Nick J., II [WV-3] – 3/31/2003
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  11. PissedOffAmerican says:

    marcus…
    You don’t get it, do you? You blew your wad here when you said Carroll was having anal sex with Arabs.
    Do you REALLY think anyone gives a flyin’ fig what you have to say? (Except maybe Nadine and Wig-wag, who seem to attract maggots like you.)

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  12. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Sure, Carroll, nobody could possibly call POS paranoid for thinking that the pure souls of Hamas had to be innocent of murdering the three Americans in Gaza (who were there to give scholarships if I recall) — no, it had to be an Israeli false flag op!”
    Like I said, you ignorant hasbarist bozo, lets have a REASON that Hamas would kill these people. It makes no sense.
    But Israel??? Its not hard to figure out why they would do it.

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  13. Dirk says:

    The cherry picking of the very valid list of impediments to peace for one likely case of mistaken identity is kind of ridiculous. The convoy was probably attacked because militants thought they were Israelis.
    Even more ridiculous is that the Israelis have prevented recipients of scholarships to even leave the Gaza strip thereby rendering the honor meaningless.

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  14. marcus says:

    Talk about conspiracies: How come nobody ever mentions that yasser arafat died of AIDS ( talk about a media cover-up !)

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  15. nadine says:

    Sure, Carroll, nobody could possibly call POS paranoid for thinking that the pure souls of Hamas had to be innocent of murdering the three Americans in Gaza (who were there to give scholarships if I recall) — no, it had to be an Israeli false flag op! Mossad, presumably.
    You guys parody yourselves.
    How are the waters out there in the fever swamps?

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  16. Carroll says:

    Posted by larry birnbaum, Mar 05 2010, 11:17AM – Link >>>>>>>>>>>>
    Nothing at all paranoid in POA’s remarks.
    We are being factual, with evidence, about the US congress’s abdication to US zionist and Israelis in ME and I/P policy.
    It’s no secret.
    It manifest itself all the time in one political arena or another.
    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/03/04/89851/california-gop-us-senate-race.html
    California’s sinking, but GOP Senate race is about Israel
    By Rob Hotakainen | McClatchy Newspapers
    WASHINGTON — California is broke, its 12.1 percent unemployment rate is among the highest in the nation, housing prices have plunged, home foreclosures have skyrocketed and a drought is threatening the state’s dwindling water supply. There also are plenty of other issues for would-be U.S. senators to debate, including the battered economy and a massive effort to overhaul the nation’s health care system.
    Instead, the state’s Republican Senate primary has been heating up over Israel…
    Best remark in the comment section to the article:
    “In what inverted universe is it more important for a representative of the American people to boast of their fealty to another, foreign state, and opposed to the economic interests of the American people?

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  17. larry birnbaum says:

    The main observation I have about the stunning level of conspiracy-theoretic paranoia involved in the last post is that it shows how that style of thinking (if you can call it that) clouds reason.
    The issue isn’t the death of any of these people per se, tragic as those deaths are. The issue is criticizing a Member of Congress for requesting an investigation into their deaths and positing such requests as an impediment to peace.

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  18. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Branchizio, Parson, and Linde were American security guards killed in Gaza while protecting US diplomats travelling there to interview Palestinian students for Fulbright scholarships”
    And the Liberty, Rachel Corrie, and Tristan Anderson??? What are they, chopped liver?
    You think Israel is “beyond” a false flag attack on americans seeking to befriend the nasty Palestinian heathens? Why would Hamas kill these people? Give a logical reason. Certainly, its not hard to surmise why the Israelis would do it.

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  19. PissedOffAmerican says:

    The ultimate “precondition” is Israel’s demand that any Palestinian state MUST remain defenseless, unarmed, and without a military. If you had these blodsucking monsters, the Israeli leadership, next door to you, would you want to be defenseless??? Its time the nazis in Israel recognized Palestine’s right to exist, and its right to defend itself.
    And this idea of “talks” at separate tables, with Mitchell mediating, is ludicrous. The AIPAC queen, Hillary Clinton, has already clearly underscored her bias, and that of the State Department. Mitchell has been neutered by Hillary’s actions and rhetoric, to say nothing of the pro-Israel bias that has been blatantly and publically telegraphed by the United States Congress, with both parties groveling at Netanyahu’s feet, hoping to continue to recieve some of AIPAC’s bribery money and support.
    Any “peace talks”, with the United States as mediator are political grandstanding, with a predetermined end result in Israel’s favor. The fact that most of these pieces of shit in DC had undoubtedly never even read the Goldstone report before voting to trash it clearly underscores the lack of objectivity with which DC approaches this “conflict” in the ME. For us to be mediating “peace talks” is a bad joke.

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  20. larry birnbaum says:

    By the way there were many interesting “hurdles to peace” attributed to the US Congress above, but this one really summed up for me the worldview the exercise expresses:
    “To require the Secretary of State to submit to Congress a report on efforts to bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who killed John Branchizio, Mark Parson, and John Marin Linde
    GARY L. ACKERMAN ( 2007 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 2293]”
    Branchizio, Parson, and Linde were American security guards killed in Gaza while protecting US diplomats travelling there to interview Palestinian students for Fulbright scholarships.

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  21. nadine says:

    “Here’s an excerise. Who besides the US would vote against Palestine statehood? ” (Carroll)
    Fatah would. It has done so already, several times. Statehood that comes with any conditions requiring them to recognize or accept Israel is unacceptable. Hamas would. Nothing less than the destruction of Israel will do for them.
    Fayyad does seem to be one Palestinian with a genuine interest in building a Palestine that would live next to Israel. But he is a front man with little power. He is left in place to collect the aid money. The Fatah Central Committee calls the shots, and they don’t recognize Israel.

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  22. larry birnbaum says:

    I hope Fayyad continued success in building the institutional infrastructure for Palestinian statehood. I do wonder though whether Mr. Elsalameen thinks there are any hurdles to peace other than those that can be attributed to Israel. I mean this genuinely. I’d be very interested in hearing from a Palestinian perspective concrete thoughts about how to deal with Hamas in the context of both negotiations and an ultimate agreement, if one is reached, given its political and military control of Gaza.

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  23. Carroll says:

    God forbid this should be taken as an assassination list..but these are the obstacles to peace for Palestine.
    Condemning Palestinian efforts to revive the original Palestine partition plan of November 29, 1947, and condemning the United Nations Commission on Human Rights for its April 27, 1999, resolution endorsing Palestinian self-determination on the basis of the original Palestine partition plan
    JERROLD NADLER ( 1999 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 131]
    A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate that the Secretary of State should redesignate the Palestine Liberation Organization as a terrorist organization, and for other purposes
    ROBERT C. SMITH ( 2001 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 157]
    A concurrent resolution condemning Palestinian efforts to revive the original Palestine partition plan of November 29, 1947, and condemning the United Nations Commission on Human Rights for its April 27, 1999, resolution endorsing Palestinian self-determination on the basis of the original Palestine partition plan
    CHARLES E. SCHUMER ( 1999 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 36]
    106th CONGRESS
    A bill to prohibit assistance to the Palestinian Authority unless and until certain conditions are met
    ARLEN SPECTER ( 2000 ) ( Bill originating in the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 3280]
    To promote transparency, accountability, and reform within the United Nations system, and for other purposes
    ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN ( 2007 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 2712]
    Honoring the international corps of volunteers, known as Machal, who served Israel in its War of Independence
    JANE HARMAN ( 1998 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [105th Congress, Bill 268]
    A bill to withhold United States assistance from the Palestinian Authority until certain conditions have been satisfied
    RICK SANTORUM ( 2006 ) ( Bill originating in the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 2237]
    To amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to assist Palestinian refugees in the West Bank and Gaza to move to post-refugee status, and for other purposes
    MARK STEVEN KIRK ( 2006 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 5278]
    Condemning the glorification of terrorism and the continuing anti-Israel and anti-Semitic rhetoric at the United Nations
    ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN ( 2008 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 939]
    Urging the European Union to add Hezbollah to the European Union’s wide-ranging list of terrorist organizations
    H. JAMES SAXTON ( 2005 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 101]
    To provide for a United States response in the event of a unilateral declaration of a Palestinian state
    BENJAMIN A. GILMAN ( 2000 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 5272]
    To require the Secretary of State to report on United States citizens injured or killed by certain terrorist groups
    MATT SALMON ( 1999 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 2172]
    To require the imposition of sanctions with respect to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) or the Palestinian Authority if the President determines that these entities have not complied with certain commitments made by the entities, and for other purposes
    GARY L. ACKERMAN ( 2001 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 1795]
    Calling upon Yasser Arafat and the leaders of other countries in the Middle East to accept the existence of Israel
    H. JAMES SAXTON ( 2002 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 369]
    A resolution urging the European Union to add Hezbollah to the European Union’s wide-ranging list of terrorist organizations
    GEORGE F. ALLEN ( 2005 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 82]
    Expressing the sense of Congress that the international community should recognize the plight of Jewish refugees from Arab countries and that the United Nations Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees in the Near East should establish a program for resettling Palestinian refugees
    ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN ( 2003 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [108th Congress, Bill 311]
    Expressing the sense of the Congress that United States foreign policy with respect to the Middle East peace process should not include an attempt to require Israel to make concessions which Israel does not believe to be in its self-interest, including concessions which would jeopardize the security of Israel
    H. JAMES SAXTON ( 1998 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [105th Congress, Bill 276]
    A resolution recognizing the right of Israel to defend itself against attacks from Gaza and reaffirming the United States’ strong support for Israel in its battle with Hamas, and supporting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process
    HARRY M. REID ( 2009 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [111th Congress, Bill 10]
    Condemning the refusal of the Indonesian officials organizing the World Archery Championships in Jakarta, Indonesia, in August 1995 to permit a team from Israel to participate in the competition under the name of Israel and under the flag of Israel, and urging the government of Indonesia to join in condemning this manifestation of racism and anti-Semitism
    TOM LANTOS ( 1995 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 87]
    To prohibit arms transfers to certain countries unless the President certifies that a state of war does not exist between such country and Israel and that such country has accorded formal recognition to the sovereignty of Israel
    CHARLES E. SCHUMER ( 1993 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [103th Congress, Bill 343]
    Honoring the international corps of volunteers, known as Machal, who served Israel in its War of Independence
    JANE HARMAN ( 1998 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [105th Congress, Bill 268]
    A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate in support of extending some of the benefits of enhanced economic relations enjoyed by the United States and Israel to those countries that sustain a “warm”peace with Israel
    GEORGE HANKS BROWN (HANK ) ( 1995 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 101]
    Congratulating the State of Israel on chairing a United Nations committee for the first time in history
    ALCEE L. HASTINGS ( 2007 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 624]
    Expressing support for the accession of Israel to the Organization for Economic Co-operation and Development (OECD)
    ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN ( 2004 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [108th Congress, Bill 617]
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 38
    Expressing the sense of Congress with respect to relocating the United States Embassy in Israel to Jerusalem
    THOMAS G. TANCREDO ( 2001 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 30]
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 171]
    To take certain steps toward recognition by the United States of Jerusalem as the capital of Israel
    THOMAS M. REYNOLDS ( 2001 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 598]
    A joint resolution expressing the sense of the Congress on the occasion of the 50th anniversary of the founding of the modern State of Israel and reaffirming the bonds of friendship and cooperation between the United States and Israel
    CHESTER TRENT LOTT ( 1998 ) ( Joint Resolution originating in the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [105th Congress, Bill 46]
    Supporting an upgrade in Israel’s relationship with NATO to that of a leading member of NATO’s Individual Cooperation Program, as a first step toward Israel’s inclusion in NATO as a full member with all corresponding rights, privileges, and responsibilities
    ILEANA ROS-LEHTINEN ( 2006 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 700]
    To prohibit arms transfers and other military assistance to certain countries unless the President certifies that a state of war does not exist between the country concerned and Israel and that such country has accorded formal recognition to the sovereignty of Israel
    CHARLES E. SCHUMER ( 1995 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 1189]
    A bill to extend the United States-Israel free trade agreement to the West Bank and Gaza Strip
    GEORGE HANKS BROWN (HANK ) ( 1995 ) ( Bill originating in the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 1469]
    A resolution calling for the immediate and unconditional release of soldiers of Israel held captive by Hamas and Hezbollah
    HILLARY R CLINTON ( 2007 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 92]
    Calling upon Yasser Arafat and the leaders of other countries in the Middle East to accept the existence of Israel
    H. JAMES SAXTON ( 2002 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 369]
    Expressing the sense of the Congress that the Vatican should recognize the State of Israel and should establish diplomatic relations with that country
    ELIOT L. ENGEL ( 1993 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [103th Congress, Bill 32]
    To provide for the opposition of the United States to the provision of any resources or assistance by the International Monetary Fund to the Palestinian Authority until the Secretary of State certifies that Israel and the Palestinian Authority have signed an agreement on borders and security arrangements for Israel and a Palestinian state
    H. JAMES SAXTON ( 2000 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 5470]
    Commending the people of Israel for reaffirming, through their participation in the election of February 6, 2001, their dedication to democratic ideals, and for other purposes
    ERIC CANTOR ( 2001 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 31]
    To require that the United States Government hold certain discussions and report to the Congress with respect to the secondary boycott of Israel by Arab countries
    CHARLES E. SCHUMER ( 1993 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [103th Congress, Bill 346]
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 1193]
    A joint resolution providing for the recognition of Jerusalem as the undivided capital of Israel before the United States recognizes a Palestinian state, and for other purposes
    SAM BROWNBACK ( 2007 ) ( Joint Resolution originating in the Senate )
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 12]
    A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate in support of the accession of Israel to the Convention on the Organisation for Economic Co-operation and Development
    BENJAMIN L. CARDIN ( 2007 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 188]
    Supporting an upgrade in Israel’s relationship with NATO to that of a leading member of NATO’s Mediterranean dialogue and to that of a member of NATO’s Partnership for Peace
    ROBERT WEXLER ( 2007 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 235]
    Commending the member states of the United Nations Western European and Others Group for addressing over four decades of injustice and extending temporary membership in that regional bloc to the state of Israel
    JOSEPH CROWLEY ( 2000 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 349]
    A resolution expressing the sense of the Senate regarding the need for the United States and the international community to take certain actions with respect to the hostilities between Hezbollah and Israel
    CHRISTOPHER JOHN DODD ( 2006 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 548]
    Commending the Republic of Turkey and the State of Israel for the continued strengthening of their political, economic, cultural, and strategic partnership and for their actions in support of the war on terrorism
    ROBERT WEXLER ( 2002 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 327]
    Urging member states of the United Nations to stop supporting resolutions that unfairly castigate Israel and to promote within the United Nations General Assembly more balanced and constructive approaches to resolving conflict in the Middle East
    STEVEN R. ROTHMAN ( 2005 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 438]
    To amend the United States-Israel Free Trade Area Implementation Act of 1985 to provide the President with additional proclamation authority with respect to articles of the West Bank or Gaza Strip or a qualifying industrial zone
    PHILIP M. CRANE ( 1996 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 3074]
    Supporting the construction by Israel of a security fence to prevent Palestinian terrorist attacks and condemning the decision by the United Nations General Assembly to request the International Court of Justice to render an opinion on the legality of the security fence
    MIKE PENCE ( 2004 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [108th Congress, Bill 371]
    Calling on the United Nations Security Council to charge Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad with violating the 1948 Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide and the United Nations Charter because of his calls for the destruction of the State of Israel
    STEVEN R. ROTHMAN ( 2007 ) ( Concurrent Resolution originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 21]
    A resolution supporting the construction by Israel of a security fence to prevent Palestinian terrorist attacks, condemning the decision of the International Court of Justice on the legality of the security fence, and urging no further action by the United Nations to delay or prevent the construction of the security fence
    GORDON H. SMITH ( 2004 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [108th Congress, Bill 408]
    A resolution expressing solidarity with Israel in Israel’s defense against terrorism in the Gaza Strip
    Mr. David Vitter ( 2009 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [111th Congress, Bill 6]
    A bill to extend the United States-Israel free trade agreement to the West Bank and Gaza Strip
    GEORGE HANKS BROWN (HANK ) ( 1995 ) ( Bill originating in the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 1469]
    To prohibit United States assistance for the Palestinian Authority and for programs, projects, and activities in the West Bank and Gaza
    ANTHONY D. WEINER ( 2003 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [108th Congress, Bill 1823]
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 1087]
    To prohibit United States assistance for the Palestinain Authority and for programs, projects, and activities in the West Bank and Gaza
    ANTHONY D. WEINER ( 2000 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 5522]
    Recognizing Israel’s right to defend itself against attacks from Gaza, reaffirming the United States’ strong support for Israel, and supporting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process
    NANCY PELOSI ( 2009 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [111th Congress, Bill 34]
    To prohibit United States assistance for the Palestinian Authority and for programs, projects, and activities in the West Bank and Gaza, unless certain conditions are met
    ANTHONY D. WEINER ( 2007 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 2978]
    Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 1143]
    To amend the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961 to assist Palestinian refugees in the West Bank and Gaza to move to post-refugee status, and for other purposes
    MARK STEVEN KIRK ( 2006 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 5278]
    A resolution recognizing the right of Israel to defend itself against attacks from Gaza and reaffirming the United States’ strong support for Israel in its battle with Hamas, and supporting the Israeli-Palestinian peace process
    HARRY M. REID ( 2009 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [111th Congress, Bill 10]
    To amend the United States-Israel Free Trade Area Implementation Act of 1985 to provide the President with additional proclamation authority with respect to articles of the West Bank or Gaza Strip or a qualifying industrial zone
    PHILIP M. CRANE ( 1996 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [104th Congress, Bill 3074]
    To prohibit assistance to be provided to the Palestinian Authority and the Palestinian people until the perpetrators, or suspected perpetrators, of the killings of United States citizens in Gaza on October 15, 2003, are surrendered to the United States Government
    JEFF FLAKE ( 2003 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [108th Congress, Bill 3460]
    A resolution condemning Hezbollah and Hamas and their state sponsors and supporting Israel’s exercise of its right to self-defense
    WILLIAM H. FRIST (BILL ) ( 2006 ) ( Simple Resolution of the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [109th Congress, Bill 534]
    To require the Secretary of State to submit to Congress a report on efforts to bring to justice the Palestinian terrorists who killed John Branchizio, Mark Parson, and John Marin Linde
    GARY L. ACKERMAN ( 2007 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 2293]
    Expressing condolences to the families of the eight people killed and nine people wounded in the library of the Mercaz Harav Yeshiva in Jerusalem’s Kiryat Moshe quarter on March 6, 2008
    ANTHONY D. WEINER ( 2008 ) ( Simple Resolution of the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [110th Congress, Bill 1060]
    To require the imposition of sanctions with respect to the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) or the Palestinian Authority if the President determines that these entities have not complied with certain commitments made by the entities, and for other purposes
    GARY L. ACKERMAN ( 2001 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [107th Congress, Bill 1795]
    A bill to prohibit assistance to the Palestinian Authority unless and until certain conditions are met
    ARLEN SPECTER ( 2000 ) ( Bill originating in the Senate )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [106th Congress, Bill 3280]
    To waive the determination of the President that Lebanon and Syria are not major drug-transit or major illicit drug producing countries under the Foreign Assistance Act of 1961, and for other purposes
    CHARLES E. SCHUMER ( 1997 ) ( Bill originating in the House )
    Source: Legislation, Congressional Activity [105th Congress, Bill 3080]

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  24. Carroll says:

    Here’s an excerise. Who besides the US would vote against Palestine statehood? Naturally the US would try to intimidate some others so they woudn’t be the only no vote, so what’s your guess.
    The UN Security Council is composed of five permanent members — China, France, Russian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States
    Ten non-permament members (with year of term’s end):
    Austria (2010)
    Japan (2010)
    Turkey (2010)
    Bosnia and Herzegovina (2011)
    Lebanon (2011)
    Uganda (2010)
    Brazil (2011)
    Mexico (2010)
    Gabon (2011)
    Nigeria (2011)
    Decisions on substantive matters require nine votes, including the concurring votes of all five permanent members

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  25. samuelburke says:

    Good one Carroll.

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  26. Carroll says:

    Dear Fayyad,
    Move on, don’t wait for US Obama or you will be waiting forever and have nothing left to negotiate over.
    Go to the Europeans and get them to help champion declaring Statehood, they have already indicated they would consider doing so.
    Force it to a vote at the UN.
    Make Obama have to play catch up or be the spoiler for all the world to see.

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  27. nadine says:

    Sure, let Obama call Fayyad’s bluff. The Pals will have to gin up a new series of “rows” and “obstacles” to “prevent” negotiations.
    “Creat job zones along their border with Israel, use the capital to establish work zones where the best job and revenue incentives apply to establishing new manufacture sectors.” (Mr. Murder)
    Geez, as if this hasn’t been tried already. Do you have any idea how many times Hamas bombed the Erez crossing? The Erez factories are closed now.

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  28. Mr.Murder says:

    Enhanced vertical integration as a key factor. Instead of growing out, growing upward.
    As a new state emerges for Palestine, it can serve as a finance conduit for other OPEC members, think of it as “Dubai West” or “Bahamas East” and that capital can be used to enhance a vested interest in the region.
    Creat job zones along their border with Israel, use the capital to establish work zones where the best job and revenue incentives apply to establishing new manufacture sectors.
    Factories hiring from both countries and exporting in the region.

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