NOTE TO VP CHENEY on 9/11: What “Thinking the Unthinkable” Really Looks Like

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Vice President Cheney has come out of the shadows to defend his role as hardliner-in-chief in the so-called “war on terror.”
AP’s Tom Raum reports in his article:

“Part of my job is to think about the unthinkable, to focus upon what in fact the terrorists may have in store for us,” Cheney told NBC’s “Meet the Press” when asked about his “dark side.”

Cheney didn’t think the unthinkable — he did the predictable. He sorted out who he thought were the good guys and the bad guys — lumped the bad guys together in ways they should not have been — and focused American military power recklessly at the wrong targets connected to 9/11, thus puncturing America’s mystique in the world and exposing before our allies and our foes both our military and financial limits.
Sensing American weakness, our allies are counting on America less and our foes are advancing their agendas. That is what Cheney’s predictable behavior and lack of strategy has done to undermine American interests and our basic security.
The “Unthinkable” (and the smarter strategy) would have been Cheney crafting a grand bargain with Iran after the Iranians had helped the U.S. temporarily stabilize post-Taliban Afghanistan.
The “Unthinkable” would have been maintaining and exploiting America’s well-developed thug management system of influencing the behavior of the world’s thugs with both carrots and sticks. After release of the recent Senate report indicating no tangible connection between Saddam and al Qaeda — in fact finding that Saddam was concerned about and opposed al Qaeda — the “unthinkable” thing to do would have been to ally with Saddam (temporarily) in eliminating both the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.
While dictators are deplorable, America does not have the will or resources to topple all of them in one large effort — no matter the dreams of the Project for a New American Century — and must make hard choices. The fact that dictators are usually not bent on self-destruction but are rather shrewdly calculating self-dealers gives America an edge in manipulating them through their own rationality. To some degree, America’s invasion of Iraq has undermined this thug-oriented calculus and now made it harder for us to compellingly influence other global thugs.
Thinking the “Unthinkable” would have been sidelining Ahmed Chalabi when we learned what a conniving, duplicitous rip-off artist he was and instead considering alternatives for regime change in Iraq short of invasion and occupation. One of these plans was a British-hatched effort to support the former Baathist Iyad Allawi — himself someone who has played all sides off the other but still someone who could have secured the support of many leading generals in Iraq and potentially led a coup against Saddam — decapitating the leadership and then installing a brand of leadership that would have walked Iraq away from fascism while not disbanding the military and re-educating and re-branding as acceptable the least ideological and most competent people in Iraq’s national and regional bureaucracies.
This last option has clear problems — moral clarity being only one — but that kind of thinking is what Cheney should be told is “thinking the unthinkable.”
If only Cheney had spent more time on the “unthinkable” — and putting his zealotry behind thinking through every option, every possibility, every complex strategic cost and opportunity — America would not be on the brink of a fundamental loss in international stature and military capacity.
Someone please get Cheney on the line. The Vice President definitely needs to take some courses on “thinking the unthinkable.”

— Steve Clemons

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45 comments on “NOTE TO VP CHENEY on 9/11: What “Thinking the Unthinkable” Really Looks Like

  1. Barbara H. Vinson says:

    Eight years have passed, and Cheney and Bush still aren’t on death row? My oh my.
    Evil triumphs as usual.

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  2. enlightenment says:

    It is way past time that we all take a realistic look at the events of 9/11. This is precisely what its planners do NOT want us to do. They are best served by the masses accepting the “official” story at face value instead of being brave enough to look into the details. The reason is that if one looks into it the “official” story falls apart very VERY quickly. In fact it is downright impossible. From the Air Force doing nothing to prevent it, to the Pentagon not firing any SAMs in its own defense, to the impossibility of cell phone calls from cruising altitude, to the flight manifests not having Arabic names on them, to the freefall rate “collapses” of the Twin Towers and WTC # 7 building which defy physics UNLESS explosives were used, to the insider trading that shows foreknowledge, to Bush not being whisked away from that school by his Secret Service, to the forewarnings given to Willie Brown and other important people, to many, MANY more things that all point to the same conclusion: 9/11 had to have been an inside job, done by our own government. I know this is hard to accept, but the truth often is. Being uncomfortable does not make something untrue. Anyone who thinks i am incorrect, i hereby DARE you to look into it yourself; that is precisely what i want everyone to do, whether you disagree with me or not. Look into the details. Don’t just “believe” something because it is less painful and less scary, MAKE UP YOUR OWN MINDS. DO NOT LET THE “AUTHORITIES” TELL YOU WHAT TO THINK. THINK FOR YOURSELVES.

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  3. elementary teacher says:

    Chain Chain Chain:
    Bush sent Cheney and top aides to the Capitol Tuesday to break election-season deadlock with Republicans over surveillance and prosecution of terrorism suspects.
    But officials met stiff resistance from senators and House leaders who say they refuse to give the White House a blank check over the war on terror.
    http://tinyurl.com/k9tev

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  4. Stu says:

    Why is the VP is charge of, well, anything? His reponsibilities should be non-critical. If our safety has been handed over to the creativity of the #2, then is he really #2?

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  5. elementary teacher says:

    Looking hard at that picture — which frightens me and makes me not want to be alone — I ponder the question: Who on earth did his dental work? Attila the Hun?

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  6. sdemetri says:

    ecce homo, oh give me a break.
    I’m not a christian, but Christ was never reputed to be a lying, power-mongering scumbag, disconnected from the reality.
    Cheney, with a crown of thorns!? You’re a class act, Con George!

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  7. Con George-Kotzabasis says:

    Mr CLEMONS
    Only an intrepid, imaginative, and thoughtful man can think of the “unthinkable” that is concocted in the minds of the terrorist fanatics, and Cheney is that ECCE HOMO.
    The allies discounted America because of its strength, not because they sensed a future weakness that arose from the anti-war movement of your country. No one presaged the latter.
    Your “unthinkables” of “sticks and carrots”, belong to an old effete world that passed with the event of 9/11. In the brave world that we have been pushed into since 9/11, only the hard men/women can prevail. And diplomacy must now have the carapace of a porcupine, as the terrorists and their state sponsors are no rabbits that one could placate by feeding them carrots.
    I would suggest to you to enter the website NEMESIS if you wish to encounter some fearless thoughts. But with the CAVEAT that this website is PROHIBITED area to the FAINT-HEARTED.

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  8. liz says:

    I do think Cheney thinks the unthinkable. I am one who thinks he had alot to do with the non response on 9/11 . I think he thinks daily ways to harm his country. I know he thinks its ok to practice fascism. Bush always uses projection in his speeches and it you listen closely, you know what is next because he puts it all on “the enemy” which in many cases sounds like the American citizens. Cheney is a crazed evil dictator character that only breathes power. Please someone take it away from him. Pull back the curtain on the Great Wizard…. Cheney is no wizard he is a destructive force in America. Chained to corporations he has sold his soul to.

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  9. Carroll says:

    And let’s hope you can your brain around the fact that there was nothing inadvertent about Cheney’s plan to provoke enough chaos to justify carrying out his Hashemite Plan…the only *inadverdent* thing that has happened is the Shiites threw a wrench in his plans….but according to the real experts, the Kurdish “statelet” status agenda is still in the air and being pushed by the Kurds and the US and Israel….so I also suggest you stay tuned.

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  10. Carroll says:

    Posted by Johnny at September 11, 2006 09:49 PM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Here is your f****** source dumbass. Read it.
    And then tell me what the hell you call it. When the plan was to annex the Sunni part of Iraq to Jordon and let the Kurds form a “a widely autonomous Kurdish region” within the new ponyed up IraqJordon bastard state..if not “statelets”…since I am sure the Shiites can read I imagine they could infer exactly what would happen to them in this plan.
    BTW… you can goggle this under the “Hashemite Plan” and you could have read this any time during the past four years from about a dozen sources …so I suggest you do more reading and research and less mouthing off in ignorance.
    Stratfor , 26 September/ septembre 2002
    Centre for Research on Globalisation (CRG), Centre de recherche sur la mondialisation (CRM), globalresearch.ca , 29 September/ septembre 2002
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    The United States is working on a plan to merge Iraq and Jordan into a unitary kingdom to be ruled by the Hashemite dynasty headed by King Abdullah of Jordan with Amman as the capital of the proposed new country, reveals a startling report made available here on Friday.
    The idea to unite Jordan and Iraq in a pro-US Hashemite kingdom after an American war is aimed at “ensuring a stable post-war Iraq”, according to Stratfor, a strategic forecasting think tank based in the US.
    It says that as a US war against Iraq nears both Washington and Middle Eastern players are working to make sure the expected American victory will result in strategic long-term gains. “The idea of a central Iraq populated by Sunni Arabs joining with Jordan to form one Hashemite kingdom is being considered as one way to secure such gains,” Stratfor says.
    The plan, authored by US Vice President Dick Cheney, was first discussed at an unusual meeting between Crown Prince Hassan of Jordan and pro-US Iraqi Sunni opposition members in London in July.
    The plan’s goal in Iraq is to create a united Hashemite kingdom embracing Jordan and Iraq’s Sunni areas. In a nutshell, the plan involves uniting Jordan and Sunni-populated areas of Iraq under the rule of the current Jordanian regime.
    The report says this will be done if Iraqi Sunni leaders “appeal to King Abdullah with such a request, which has a weak but still legally valid justification, as Abdullah is the second cousin of the last Iraqi king, Faisal II, who was overthrown in 1958”. The report says the plan will bring strategic benefits to the US, Israel and Jordan.
    Benefits for US: The fact that the Western-based Iraqi opposition completely depends on Washington will help the “Hashemite Plan”. The US favours the plan because the current goal of replacing Saddam Hussein with a pro-US Iraqi government still would not guarantee long-term US control over the territory and its oil.
    “First, it may become too hard for a new government in Baghdad to effectively control the whole country, even with US troop support. An example is Afghanistan, in which the government of President Hamid Karzai still controls only the capital,” the report says.
    “Second, the new government’s attempts to establish control over all of Iraq may well lead to a civil war between Sunni, Shia and Kurdish ethnic groups, with US troops caught in the middle. The fiercest fighting could be expected for control over the oil facilities,” it adds. Uniting Jordan and Iraq under a Hashemite government will give US several strategic advantages.
    “First, the creation of a new pro-US kingdom under the half-American Abdullah will shift the balance of forces in the region heavily in the US favour,” the report says. After eliminating Iraq as a sovereign state, there would be no fear that one day an anti-American government would come to power in Baghdad, as the capital would be in Amman.
    “Current and potential US geopolitical foes Iran, Saudi Arabia and Syria would be left isolated from each other, with big chunks of land between them under control of the pro-US forces,” according to Stratfor.
    “Equally important, Washington would be able to justify its long-term and heavy military presence in the region as necessary for the defence of a young new state asking for US protection and to secure the stability of oil markets and supplies. That in turn would help the US gain direct control of Iraqi oil and replace Saudi oil in case of conflict with Riyadh,” it adds.
    The richest oil areas would not go to the Hashemite kingdom but to a widely autonomous Kurdish region that still will be formally a part of the Hashemite state. To make sure the Kurds don’t upset US ally Turkey by declaring an independent state, US will have the excuse of deploying its forces in the Kurdish region, with new bases located just next to oil fields in areas such as Kirkuk.
    “Washington then will be able to offer the new Hashemite kingdom as a model for other Arab states, combining what the Arab masses see as the advantages of a traditional monarchy with the benefits of a US alliance,” the report says.
    “The potential combination of educated Iraqis, US aid and military assistance, and oil revenues might help the new state become a beacon for the Arab world to follow,” it adds. Were more states to adopt this example, the geopolitical influence of both Saudi Arabia and Egypt would decline, making it easier for Washington to deal with them.
    “In case of a future conflict with Saudi Arabia or Iran, US forces would be in the ideal position to strike not only from sea but also from land by using new bases in the Hashemite kingdom and the Kurdish region,” the report reveals.
    Benefits for Israel: “Iraq, arguably Israel’s most determined foe, will be eliminated and Baghdad’s end will deprive the Palestinians of much financial and other assistance, which can reduce the effectiveness of attacks against the Jewish state.”
    Benefits for Jordan: “King Abdullah will vastly expand his role and prominence in the region with a joint Hashemite state, becoming the second-most important US ally after Israel. In addition to his huge territorial gains, he also will get a chunk of Iraqi oil.
    “And Palestinians, who currently make up half of Jordan’s population, will become a minority in the new state, with much less potential to stir up trouble,” the report adds.
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    Copyright STRATFOR 2002. For fair use only/ pour usage équitable seulement .
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    The URL of this article is:
    http://globalresearch.ca/articles/KHA209A.html
    [home]

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  11. Johnny says:

    David G. Stahl: I am not sure it was *inadvertent”. Iraq is getting closer to being broken up into statelets, that was Cheney’s plan.
    Really?
    Source please?
    Setting that odd digression aside, please note you have completely mis-read my statement which is emphasizing the point that Cheney *inadvertently* caused the fathering of a fundamentalist Islamic republic in Iraq which has close and long standing ties to Iran and is pro-Hezbollah, anti-US, and anti-Israel .
    Cheney planned for the exact opposite of what we see today in Iraq.
    Why would Cheney want to empower extremist Shiite mullahs?
    Cheney planned for a pro-US, pro-Western style democracy in Iraq.
    That is NOT what has happened.
    “Hezbollah has killed more Americans than any other terrorist organization than al-Qaeda. The largest demonstration in favor of Hezbollah was in Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of Iraqis on the street supporting Hezbollah. [Russert] asked the foreign minister of Iraq, “Is Hezbollah a terrorist organization?” He said, “I can’t make that judgment.” (MTP Transcript for Sept. 10)
    VICE PRES. CHENEY: It is a Shia government, no question about it. They’ve got close ties. Iran was the place where most of the leadership took refuge during the period of time when Saddam Hussein was in power, because it was the only place they could go. (MTP Transcript for Sept. 10)
    Only place they could go?
    ROTFLMAOL!
    Never mind the time–honored bonds of religion, language, culture etc!!

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  12. Matthew Treder says:

    “…puncturing America’s mystique in the world and exposing before our allies and our foes both our military and financial limits.”
    Well put. Counting up the hundreds of billions we’ll spend on this war may prove easy compared to cataloging the damage to our credibility, respect, and moral authority in the world.

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  13. Carroll says:

    Winning hearts and minds.
    US Rep Lantos prevents 230 million in US aid to Lebanon, saying instead we should give more aid to Israel…while Russia sends on the ground help to disarm cluster bombs and rebuild roads and bridges in Lebanon…….like I said, OBL and Putin laughing themselves silly at Isrmerica.
    Putin to send Russian engineering-sapper battalion to Lebanon
    Front page / Russia
    09/11/2006 16:11 Source:
    Vladimir Putin on Monday announced his final decision to send a battalion of Russian engineers and explosives experts to Lebanon. Their main aim is to help repair the damage caused by Israel’s campaign to uproot Hezbollah guerrillas.
    In comments shown on state-run television, Putin instructed aides to prepare the necessary paperwork for Russia’s upper house of parliament to authorize the deployment, which will be separate from the U.N. peacekeeping mission.
    Defense Minister Sergei Lavrov said an advance team would travel to Lebanon this week and the full group could be in place by month’s end.
    It was unclear how many members the team would contain but Ivanov said they would include experts at disarming unexploded ordnance, as well as engineers to evaluate the damage inflicted on Lebanese roads and bridges.
    He said the team will work outside of the area where United Nations-authorized peacekeepers are operating, the AP reports.
    “We will not be involved in peacekeeping operations, but will reconstruct the infrastructure in areas outside the United Nations peacekeeping operation zone,” Ivanov was quoted as saying by Interfax.
    Israel’s 34-day war in Lebanon caused wide damage to Lebanon’s infrastructure and left unexploded bombs and other weaponry scattered throughout the country.

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  14. Linda says:

    Easy E,
    Thanks for the Northwoods link. Of course, JFK did decide wrongly to do the Bay of Pigs Fiasco.
    There is another parallel of interest between those times and today. Eisenhower created the Gaither Commission that found there was a missile gap with Soviets. The report caused JFK to greatly increase military spending on missiles. History later proved there was no missile gap.
    The parallel in more recent years is the The Commission to Assess the Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States, better known as the Rumsfeld Commission, established by Congress during Clinton Administration that issued its report on 7/15/98. It reported that both Iran and North Korea would have capability of deploying missiles that could hit the U.S. within five years, i.e., 2003. This report still is used to justify our “Star Wars” missile defense system that is wasting billions of dollars and most experts believe will not work.
    The members of the Rumsfeld Commission in addition to Chairman Donald Rumsfeld were Barry M. Blechman, General Lee Butler USAF (Ret.), Richard L. garwin, William R. Graham, William Schneider, Jr., General Larry D. Walsh, USAF (Ret.), Paul D. Wolfowitz, and R. James Woolsey.
    It’s very sad to see this country make the same mistakes over and over again and to have leaders that don’t learn from very recent history.

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  15. Jerome Gaskins says:

    Cheney thinks the unthinkable is nixon not in office

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  16. sdemetri says:

    Website where Bowman’s group has compiled their evidence:

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  17. ken melvin says:

    Raum is such a hack.

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  18. Anwar al-Insurgent says:

    Deadeye Dick Cheney, the poster boy for all those that hold America in utter contempt. After all, America is that ripe oyster plump and ready for the corrupt harvest. What better way to savage a naive and believing people than by scaring the bejesus out of them and staying aloof and beyond accountability. What a class act that Deadeye Dick is. Or possibly, just acts like an ass.

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  19. sdemetri says:

    Thanks, EasyE for that Operations Northwoods link.
    From an embedded link in the article, consider this:
    Dr. Robert M. Bowman, Lt. Col., USAF, ret. flew 101 combat missions in Vietnam. He is the recipient of the Eisenhower Medal, the George F. Kennan Peace Prize, the President’s Medal of Veterans for Peace, the Society of Military Engineers Gold Medal (twice), six Air Medals, and dozens of other awards and honors. His Ph.D. is in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering from Caltech. He chaired 8 major international conferences, and is one of the country’s foremost experts on National Security.
    Bowman worked secretly for the US government on the Star Wars project and was the first to coin the very term in a 1977 secret memo. After Bowman realized that the program was only ever intended to be used as an aggressive and not defensive tool, as part of a plan to initiate a nuclear war with the Soviets, he left the program and campaigned against it.
    In an interview with The Alex Jones Show aired nationally on the GCN Radio Network, Bowman stated that at the bare minimum if Osama bin Laden and Al-Qaeda were involved in 9/11 then the government stood down and allowed the attacks to happen. He said it is plausible that the entire chain of military command were unaware of what was taking place and were used as tools by the people pulling the strings behind the attack.
    Bowman outlined how the drills on the morning of 9/11 that simulated planes crashing into buildings on the east coast were used as a cover to dupe unwitting air defense personnel into not responding quickly enough to stop the attack.
    “The exercises that went on that morning simulating the exact kind of thing that was happening so confused the people in the FAA and NORAD….that they didn’t know what was real and what was part of the exercise,” said Bowman
    “I think the people who planned and carried out those exercises, they’re the ones that should be the object of investigation.”
    Asked if he could name a prime suspect who was the likely architect behind the attacks, Bowman stated, “If I had to narrow it down to one person….I think my prime suspect would be Dick Cheney.”

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  20. john o. says:

    Here is what cheney really thinks: The public and W are stupid and won’t stop me, so I’ll do/say what I want, and the devil take the hindmost.

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  21. Pissed Off American says:

    I agree Carroll. And to credit Cheney as just being a garden variety criminal far underestimates the sheer evil he represents. Garden variety criminals DO NOT tally death tolls in the hundreds of thousands. This guy is every bit as sick as Charlie Manson, is twice as fanatical, and he has his finger on the nuclear trigger.
    BTW, is it unbelievable or not seeing a President of the United States walking on our flag? What a fuckin’ buffoon. Can’t we just throw his arrogant ass in prison where it belongs?? What the hell is a matter with these assholes in Congress, are they ALL sumbags? Why the hell are these people still in power??

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  22. Pissed Off American says:

    Want a good campaign ad for the Dems??? Look at this asshole Bush walking on the American flag. This guy is an emabarrassment.
    http://www.unknownnews.org/060911-photo-essay.html

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  23. Carroll says:

    Every day I tell myself I am not going to waste any more time watching this USA universal train wreck but I keep coming back to it like an addict.
    I doubt there is a *rational* informed person on earth who doesn’t know how we got to this point.
    We all know all the actors, who did what and why they did it. All I want to know now is who is going to win the battle here in the US, the realist or the fanatics.
    From one “criminal” attack on the US to democratizing the entire ME, invading two countries,possibily a third in Iran and supporting the civilian bombing of Lebanon, is so far beyond insane there isn’t even any point in discussing the “motives” of Cheney&Co. He/they crazy, period. Anyone who tries to “rationalize” any thing beyond Iraq now is crazy in the clinical sense of the term.

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  24. Peter says:

    Cheney incompetent? All this assumes that the man is a patriot making horrible decisions. How about a business man making a killing? Please check to see how many legislators have (or had) stock in Exxon, Haliburton, Lockeed, British Petroluem, etc in the last 4 years. They will leave the wreckage as multi-millionaires. Competence? How about criminal?

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  25. Carroll says:

    Someone please put Cheney on the pillory for *inadvertently* causing the fathering of a fundamentalist Islamic republic in Iraq.
    Posted by Johnny at September 11, 2006 09:18 AM
    >>>>>>>
    I am not sure it was *inadvertent”. Iraq is getting closer to being broken up into statelets, that was Cheney’s plan.
    “I imagine if GOP loses control of either the House or Senate that there will be a lot of inquiries into the Cheney methods.
    Posted by David G. Stahl at September 11, 2006
    09:39 AM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    Correct me if I am wrong but I thought I heard Rham Emanuel say to Tim Russert last week that there would “be no investigations” if the dems won control…that the dems would just “move on” with the business of the people. With leaders like Rham the dems might as well be the republicans.

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  26. pauline says:

    Even three years ago the liar was publicly “exposing himself” —
    “Cheney link of Iraq, 9/11 challenged”
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2003/09/16/cheney_link_of_iraq_911_challenged?mode=PF

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  27. EEarlK says:

    Thinking the unthinkable, and no one has mentioned the cell that await, if they are lucky? If the nation plunges into the hole of mob violence it deserves, perchance it could be time for a head on a pike, and I don’t mean John.

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  28. Kaatje says:

    Steve,
    A trenchant article, as always. But, Cheney thinking!?! Certainly not with anything north of his belly button.

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  29. Easy E says:

    Wonder if Cheney’s “unthinkable” learnings came from here?
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/prweb/20060907/bs_prweb/prweb434292_2
    Operations Northwoods clearly supports notion that evil lurks in the bowels of our own government.

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  30. Zathras says:

    David Stahl upthread makes an interesting point about Cheney’s reaction to Watergate. It should remind us as well that both he and Rumsfeld cut their foreign policy teeth in the Ford administration struggling to bring its foreign policy to a grinding halt, and eventually succeeding.
    Perhaps a politically crippled President could never have sustained a foreign policy that so consistently pursued American interests while keeping moral posturing to a minimum; a politically strong President lacking personal self-confidence and largely ignorant of foreign affairs might well have the same problem. At any rate it is possible to imagine the opportunities available to the United States after the rout of the Taliban, or even after the fall of Saddam Hussein, being used in very different ways by Henry Kissinger than by Cheney and Rumsfeld — and not hard at all to imagine that thought as motivating Cheney and Rumsfeld to act as they did.

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  31. Johnny says:

    What I fail to understand is why people are not completely outraged by the un-intended consequences of the deposing of Saddam Hussein, i.e. the vast empowering of the Shiite fundamentalists throughout the ME.
    Fundamentalist Sunnis attacked the USA in a horrifically successful manner five years ago today.
    And in direct response to this, Cheney, Rumsfeld, et al (by way of their useful idiot Bush) basically thrusted the reins of power into the hands of Al Dawa and the Supreme Council for the Islamic Revolution of Iraq who are not by any stretch of the imagnation a loyal friend to the USA.
    WTF?

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  32. Maude says:

    Cheney and Bush are misfits.
    Maude

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  33. Pissed Off American says:

    Gads, just look at the picture of the son of a bitch.
    THAT is one EVIL human being.
    You know, people keep harping on “your insane hatred of Bush and Cheney” when they counter the arguments of the progressives.
    To be honest, if you are a reasonably loyal and patriotic American, it seems insane NOT to hate these two monsters.

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  34. Sammy says:

    It’s all very well to refute Cheney’s excuses, trying to hold on to sanity in a very one-sidedly rational discussion. Somebody needs to do this, and you’re doing it well.
    Nevertheless, he continues to do what he wants: make money and kill people. The two are not unconnected. People who come between him and what he wants are dying (though some escape with a little facial disfigurement and a mild heart attack).
    He makes his money from a robust war machine. The math is not complicated when you make sure that someone else, foreign or domestic, absorbs the losses. Dick Cheney is making money for himself and his company and his friends.

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  35. Pissed Off American says:

    “…..after the Iranians had helped the U.S. temporarily stabilize post-Taliban Afghanistan.”
    Chuckle.
    Changed your wording a bit there, eh Steve? It’s a better choice, “successfully pacified” just wasn’t cutting it.
    But hey, I’m not sure “temporaily stabilzed” does either. Was there EVER a time when Karzai could safely leave his compound in Kabul?

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  36. stomp says:

    This is nothing new.
    Cheney has been an incompetent his entire career.

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  37. ciao!ciuck says:

    Very good, Steve, thanks. Also, thanks for pointing out last week that Cheney seems to be on the short end of a change of power within the Administration. Hmm. I wonder if he considered that when he was pondering the “unthinkable”.

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  38. David G. Stahl says:

    Dear Steve Clemmons:
    I also have the gift of thinking the very worst possibilities – but Cheney had an important implicit agenda that coloured his thinking: Watergate damaged the Executive branch of government.
    What is interesting is that Cheney’s response to correct the damage of Watergate will probably undermine the powers of the Executive branch worse than Nixon’s indiscretions. Spending billions of dollars to collect data that no one could possibly analyze – picking fights with congress on every little details which the next administration will have to either continue or more likely pacify – creating rifts in the intelligence communities that already didn’t trust each other – loss of good capable analysts and a weakened military because of the costs of unneeded war in Iraq.
    Cheney’s view of himself as the one minding the shop is a self-fulfilling role. Too bad, he didn’t realize that to mind the shop in a democracy requires fostering openness and transparency, losing battles to win wars, and using slow tools like diplomacy to build up your abilities to react to the world.
    I imagine if GOP loses control of either the House or Senate that there will be a lot of inquiries into the Cheney methods. It will not be a pretty sight – and it may paralyze the country for much longer than the Watergate scandal, and leave us with a periliously weak Executive branch.
    Guess it’s time for me to pursue a PhD in Economics, I already have the dismal view of the world.
    Yours,
    David G. Stahl

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  39. pauline says:

    watch the liar on “Meet the Press” yesterday —
    Cheney Ignores Senate Intel Report, Cites Zarqawi As Evidence of Iraq/Al Qaeda Connection
    http://thinkprogress.org/2006/09/10/cheney-cites-zarqawi

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  40. lina says:

    well said.

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  41. Linda says:

    I’d prefer that this administration just think realistically in both its strategics and tactics. One definition of “unthinkable” is “not to be considered; out of the question: Such a suggestion is unthinkable.” And by that definition, this administration is unthinkable.

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  42. Johnny says:

    Steve: Someone please get Cheney on the line.
    Someone please put Cheney on the pillory for *inadvertently* causing the fathering of a fundamentalist Islamic republic in Iraq.
    How many more oceans of blood and treasure need to be spilled in Iraq for the sake of a fundamentalist Islamic republic which has close and long standing ties to Iran and is pro-Hezbollah, anti-US, and anti-Israel ?
    9/11 + Iraq = Bush’s fundamentalist Islamic republic
    WTF?

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