No Obama Effect: Chicago Eliminated

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The International Olympic Committee has just voted that Chicago has been eliminated from consideration as the 2016 host for the Olympic Games.
An end to the Obama effect?
In about an hour you can watch the announcement live of the 2016 host here. I’m betting on Rio.
— Steve Clemons

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54 comments on “No Obama Effect: Chicago Eliminated

  1. questions says:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/01/AR2009100103891.html?hpid=opinionsbox1
    A final word on why Chicago is one lucky city and Obama has happily escaped from a curse.

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  2. Outraged American says:

    POA”Please, would someone in Australia look Kotz up and make
    him eat his dictionary?’ But then there’d be vomit all over the
    world.

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  3. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Please, would someone in Australia look Kotz up and make him eat his dictionary? It’d certainly be easier than attempting to shove it….
    Oh, never mind.

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  4. kotzabasis says:

    No one can be proud for pitching for a cause only to finish in a humiliating defeat, unless one is irretrievably naive and politically suicidal. And Obama’s obsequious, prostrating, and soliciting words and actions on the international domain, including this one, since he became president, presage his ignominious and dishonourable demise.
    Dan Kervick’s multiple defensive ripostes reveal that Tahoe’s and Nadine’s arrows have pierced his cerebral tremulous heart, leaving him intellectually on his last breath.

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  5. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Its comical watching the praise and condemnation for Obama spit out along partisan lines.
    Fairly amazing that otherwise intelligent folk can’t see we are getting fucked in a wholly bipartisan manner.
    Obama’s scumsucking cohorts in Chigago stood to make huge money on a Chigago Olympics.
    Frankly, I agree with the necks on this one. Obama shouldn’t be pullin’ shit like this, as our country has never been in greater need of careful management and leadership. The empty suit needs to at least APPEAR as if he knows what the hell he’s doing. Seems to me that a goodly portion of those he’s reached out to, so far, have told him to go fuck himself, even key members of his own party, much less those such as Putin, Netanyahu, the Olympics committee, etc..
    In truth, when he’s not making an ass of himself, theres plenty of Dems willing to do it for him.
    Hey Dan, how’d ya like being ignored by Hodes? Next time tell him to do something for Israel, and you’ll undoubtedly get a quick response.

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  6. nadine says:

    Dan, Dan. Have you never worked in business? In business the rule is, “You don’t bring the CEO in until the big deal is ready to be signed.”
    If Obama had flown into Europe for a meeting with NATO and made a low-key stop to informally talk to the IOC about a pitch that the US was going to win, that would have been okay. You didn’t see Bush make a big whoop about going to China just to sell some Boeing airplanes – and then lose! No, he kept everything low-key, and he got the deal.

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  7. Dan Kervick says:

    “No American President has ever lobbied the IOC in person before. The POTUS isn’t supposed to be just another leader of just another country. He is supposed to be the leader of the free world.”
    Well, get used to this kind of thing. Just as Bush sold Boeing jets to the Chinese during a trip to China in 2005, Obama went to Copenhagen to try to sell Chicago to the IOC. The US is increasingly just part of the global economic mix, and needs to fight harder than before for its economic interests. US presidents no longer have the luxury of looking down on the grubby fray from the Olympian heights, and expecting US economic influence to be spread among the quaking global masses by the distant echo of their fearsome roar.
    The rest of the world is going to get quite a laugh from any future US presidents who follow your recommendation and presume to think that they don’t need to conduct the same business the rest of the world conducts because they sit in some aristocratic “leader of the free world” skybox, and can’t afford to get their trains dirty. It’s a whole new global ballgame, and America Inc. needs to hustle and scramble just like everyone else, or we’ll continue to be left behind by rising, busy and less proud countries.

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  8. nadine says:

    It is not fanatical hatred of Obama, Dan. It is amazement and scorn. No American President has ever lobbied the IOC in person before, precisely to avoid this result. The POTUS isn’t supposed to be just another leader of just another country. He is supposed to be the leader of the free world.
    Between his apologize-for-the-US-before-I-arrived speeches, passing up the chance to confront Iran with their hidden nuke facility, and now this needless and self-imposed humiliation, Obama is advertising in every way, shape and form that the he is an overconfident neophyte on the world stage with a big “KICK ME” sign attached to his backside. And now this man is going into face-to-face negotiations with the Iranians, so they can buy even more time to enrich uranium? You think the mullahs didn’t watch this sorry performance with glee? Think again.
    Or, as Drudge put it: “The Ego Has Landed” We are in deep doo-doo.

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  9. Dan Kervick says:

    That was at a meeting of the big teabagging outfit, Americans For Prosperity

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  10. Dan Kervick says:

    Well, the conservatives have once again, predictably, put their foot in in, allowing their fanatical hatred of all things Obama drive them into outright public displays of anti-Americanism
    http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1460906593?bctid=43158474001

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  11. Tahoe Editor says:

    Of course not. I don’t subscribe to the “shut up, go away” school of thought. I want to know what others have to say. But I’m willing to bet that Steve has little to no tolerance for baseless accusations of “racial resentment” or any other permutation of “racism” you can devise. Commenting here is a privilege.

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  12. Dan Kervick says:

    Enough? Are you now the thread length czar, Tahoe?

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  13. Tahoe Editor says:

    Dan, Steve did not appoint you TWN Racism Czar. Enough.

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  14. Dan Kervick says:

    I’m not surprised that you don’t know the definition of “racism”, TE, and so cannot tell the difference between racism and racial resentment. Maybe Matt Drudge or one of your other gurus has a dictionary you can use.
    Uh, yeah, I’ve already read the latest Milbank piece. But thanks for the link.

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  15. questions says:

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/sns-ap-oly-say-no-to-chicago,0,7282835.story
    From the Chicago Tribune. Maybe there’s something in this story that makes it not an Obama story after all??

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  16. Dan Kervick says:

    TEST

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  17. Jack B. Nimble says:

    AAaargh! Another link! That hurts. God you are so smart and powerful and persuasive. Damn you, you conservatives always win! I hate that so much!
    You must be really good looking, too. I already know you’re super smart. Gosh. So jealous.

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  18. Jack B. Nimble says:

    Tahoe, PLEASE send me what you’re smoking. I mean it. The links you send, those dastardly powerfully persuasive links, convince me that youv’e got the good stuff.
    You’re tough, too. What kind of spinach do you eat? Me and all my liberal friends are cowering. Stop it with the linking already.

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  19. hgovernick says:

    I fell asleep with the television on last night, and woke up just as MSNBC interrupted the Ed Show to broadcast the Chicago delegation’s bid for hosting the 2016 Olympics.
    I regret to say that Chicago’s bid made my stomach turn. Even before the presentation ended, I had the feeling that Chicago would not win the bid.
    I love Chicago. I’ve visited many times over the course of the years. It’s a great city. But the presentation at the IOC seemed to me to be an infomercial representing more the ideals of Capitalism and less the ideals of the spirit of the Olympics.

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  20. Tahoe Editor says:

    If I mention Oprah I’m full of “racial resentment”. But I’m not a racist. Is your head exploding yet? I don’t envy your schizophrenia.

    Dana Milbank:
    Helen Thomas is 89 years old and requires some assistance to get to and from the daily White House briefing. Yet her backbone has proved stronger than that of the president she covers.
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/01/AR2009100104303_pf.html

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  21. Dan Kervick says:

    “Mentioning Oprah without mentioning … Arne Duncan? Really? That makes me a racist?”
    No, just loaded up with the usual wingnut mountains of racial resentment. But what is your position exactly? Do you think Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey should have stayed home, and not gone to Copenhagen to support Chicago’s bid? And since the previous discussion of “taking this on” was all about the president and his political decisions, why did you suddenly shift to Michelle and Oprah?
    “Refresher: Think, THEN write.”
    I’ll try. Do you have a link to I site where I can find some thought? Preferably in cartoon form?

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  22. Tahoe Editor says:

    Those are NEWS items from NEWS sites. Refresher: Think, THEN write.
    Meanwhile, here’s Jay Cost’s take. (But of course he is just biased so he can be disregarded.)
    http://www.realclearpolitics.com/horseraceblog/2009/10/the_olympics_obama_and_the_per.html

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  23. Tahoe Editor says:

    Mentioning Oprah without mentioning … Arne Duncan? Really? That makes me a racist?
    The short-term sugar high you get from this playbook can only be followed by a long-term crash in integrity. I recommend further thought.

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  24. Dan Kervick says:

    You would think somebody who is supposedly an editor would have the ability to pen a few paragraphs of his own words, and wouldn’t need to rely so much on the usual wingnut toady technique of pasting links from the echo chamber.

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  25. Dan Kervick says:

    “So the IOC is racist too?”
    Nope, they just went with the stronger bid. But I don’t recall reading any resentful IOC cracks about trips to Copenhagen by Michelle Obama and Oprah Winfrey. My understanding is that the IOC delegates received the two graciously and appreciatively.
    I’m just wondering why Tahoe Ed finds something so sneerworthy about two of Chicago’s most prominent citizens making a trip to the IOC meeting to make a pitch for their home city. I also think it’s interesting that his attention fell on the two famous African-American women in the delegation, and not, say, Ricard Daley, Ray LaHood or Arne Duncan.
    In case people aren’t paying attention, Chicago’s unemployment rate is well up over 10%, and the city could sure have used the kind of shot in the arm that a surge of Olympics-related construction spending and civic engagement would have provided. I’m glad conservatives are so pumped-up to exploit this opportunity to mock Obama and his friends from the Windy City for daring to try to bring home the gold for their town.

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  26. Jack B. Nimble says:

    Tahoe and Nadine – what’s pathetic is that this is the absolute best your side has on Obama. Invented, small bore, imaginary, totally unquantifiable “wounds to America.”
    Do you have any idea how petty you sound? How uninformed? You’ve just got nothing. Can’t wait to watch you try to spin healthcare after it passes. Just watch.

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  27. Tahoe Editor says:

    Brainless brandishing of the race card is as paint-by-numbers as u can get, Danny. You’re a pro.
    This one’s for you:
    http://www.politicalcartoons.com/cartoon/d00b5a76-dcfa-4b14-a859-1ad9cbaf6fbf.html
    Nadine is right. Even John Harwood is calling it a major “embarassment” for the president, especially when his original take was “I’m too busy to go over there.”

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  28. nadine says:

    “Damn parvenue negresses. Next thing they’ll want is a house in Tahoe.”
    So the IOC is racist too?

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  29. nadine says:

    First paragraph of the Chicago Tribune’s coverage:
    “Chicago’s first-round knockout in the voting for the 2016 Olympic Games presents a serious loss of face to President Barack Obama and Mayor Richard Daley, who each staked personal as well as political capital on the city’s bid.”
    It’s not just my opinion. I can claim no particular credit, in fact. It’s the obvious opinion.

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  30. Dan Kervick says:

    Tahoe Editor:
    “Yes, “taking this on”, as it was such a “sacrifice” for Michelle to fly to Denmark with Oprah to lobby for Chicago.”
    Damn parvenue negresses. Next thing they’ll want is a house in Tahoe.
    Anyway, I’m delighted to see conservatives gloating over the failed effort of yet another American city. Detroit, Chicago … who’s left to dump on? Are there any Americans left outside the narrow Beck-o-sphere that they *don’t* hate?

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  31. David Mercanus says:

    Nadine, whatever you are smoking, can I have some? Because I’m afraid you’re gonna start winning elections big time, just like you did in 2008!
    So I now declare: You are Weak. Your party is Weak. Your disproven ideology is Weak.
    There. See? By your rules, I just won. Just make assertions. It’s fun! Hey everyone, try this! You too can be a wingnut.

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  32. nadine says:

    “The IOC is a thoroughly corrupt organization. Obama and Chicago probably didn’t play ball with them. Remember Salt Lake City? ”
    Quite true, but if anybody on earth should know how to play that game, it is Mayor Daley of Chicago. Obama is no slouch either.

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  33. Tahoe Editor says:

    TIMES ONLINE:
    There has been a growing narrative taking hold about Barack Obama’s presidency in recent weeks: that he is loved by many, but feared by none; that he is full of lofty vision, but is actually achieving nothing with his grandiloquence.
    Chicago’s dismal showing today, after Mr Obama’s personal, impassioned last-minute pitch, is a stunning humiliation for this President. It cannot be emphasised enough how this will feed the perception that on the world stage he looks good — but carries no heft.
    Mr Obama was greeted — as usual — like a rock star by the IOC delegates in Copenhagen — then humiliated by them. Perception is reality. A narrow defeat for Chicago would have been acceptable — but the sheer scale of the defeat was a bombshell, and is a major blow for Mr Obama at a time when questions are being asked about his style of governance.
    Mr Obama’s soaring rhetoric — which captured the imagination during last year’s election — is simply not enough when it comes to confronting the myriad challenges of the presidency. His spectacular Olympic failure will only add to that.
    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6859031.ece

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  34. nadine says:

    Ben,
    It’s not harmless, for a President to be this clueless or to look this weak. Yesterday’s reaction on conservative chat rooms that I frequent was that Obama must have this thing sewn up, so he could get a cheap media victory and be a hero for a week. It didn’t occur to conservatives that Obama would make this big show then lose, humiliatingly. They were still giving him credit for some level of political competence.
    Earth to Obama: the European elites still don’t like America. It wasn’t just Bush.
    Are you old enough to remember Jimmy Carter and the killer rabbit? Perceptions of weakness can be devastating if they take hold.

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  35. Dan Kervick says:

    Margaret Carlson,
    “But some of his critics do have a point when they wonder why he’s flying off to the land of Hamlet, Tivoli Gardens and Tuborg beer to make a final plea for the 2016 games the week his military and foreign policy teams are meeting in a marathon session on Afghanistan and Congress is voting on health care.”
    Of course, Obama also used the trip to Copenhagen to have a face-to-face on board Air Force One with General McChrystal, who was in London at the time.

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  36. nadine says:

    Dan, Did Jimmy Carter lobby for the Los Angeles Games? Did Bush 41 lobby for the Atlanta games? I do not think it would have occurred to conservatives that Obama should have had anything to do with lobbying the IOC.

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  37. Tahoe Editor says:

    Margaret Carlson: Obama Chases Olympic Bauble While U.S. Burns
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aLJasWRDK.9Y

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  38. The Bobs says:

    The IOC is a thoroughly corrupt organization. Obama and Chicago probably didn’t play ball with them. Remember Salt Lake City?

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  39. The Bobs says:

    The IOC is a thoroughly corrupt organization. Obama and Chicago probably didn’t play ball with them. Remember Salt Lake City?

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  40. Ben Rosengart says:

    By the way, I never liked Bush, but I could never understand why
    some people would condemn him for the most innocuous stuff. It
    seemed petty to me, and I saved my condemnation for the serious
    stuff, like lying us into war, and failing to help the people of the
    Gulf Coast.
    Those of you who don’t like Obama might consider taking a
    similar approach. When you attack him for something as
    harmless as lobbying the IOC on behalf of Chicago, you make
    yourselves look petty and foolish.

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  41. Ben Rosengart says:

    Congratulations to the good people of Chicago for not having to
    deal with horrible traffic jams and useless development projects.

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  42. Tahoe Editor says:

    Warning: My patience with you is “not unlimited”! NOW what are you gonna do?
    I understand you perceive courage in every breath the president takes, but at some point, results will matter (for some).
    “We did the best we could. He made a great speech,” Axelrod said.

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  43. Dan Kervick says:

    Nadine, I don’t think the Iranians are paying much attention to such questions as whether Chicago hosts the Olympics or the Bears win the Super Bowl.
    If Chicago’s most famous son didn’t go to support his city’s pitch, then you, Drudge, and the other wingers would have been complaining about how he had thrown yet another group of supporters under the bus, how he was an apologetic anti-American supporter of South American leftists, etc. So give me a break. You’ll say anything, so as a result, nothing you say has meaning.
    Meanwhile, Tahoe Editor continues to paint by numbers.

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  44. Tahoe Editor says:

    Not enough votes to get out of the first round?
    Is it “No Obama Effect” or the “NObama Effect”?

    “The fate of comprehensive health care reform is hanging by a thread up on Capitol Hill and the Pentagon is awaiting the commander-in-chief’s word on the way forward in Afghanistan, and Obama’s going to take time out of his busy schedule to schmooze with the Princess of Liechtinstein and the 105 other worthies on the I.O.C.’s selection committee? It’s enough to make a guy agree with Kit Bond.”
    http://www.tnr.com/blog/the-plank/obama-setting-himself-the-agony-defeat

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  45. nadine says:

    Hey, be fair, Dan. I pre-pummeled Obama last night before the result was in, saying there was a good reason Presidents didn’t lay their prestige on the line before the IOC.
    What Obama doesn’t get is that the prestige of the President is not his personal property. It belongs to the country. This is why summits were always prepared beforehand, to save both world leaders from a display of weakness. Obama couldn’t even get this right.
    Do you think this visible loss of clout – US not only out of the running but first out – will strengthen the position of the US vis-a-vis Iran?

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  46. Dan Kervick says:

    The fact that the failure of the Chicago bid has brought out the predicable opportunistic pummeling from the Drudge Report, Nadine and Tahoe Editor is precisely why I am impressed with Obama’s willingness to take a risk and go to bat for his home town.

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  47. visafa says:

    Is a normal situation. American People don’t know about impressions of Americans out of EEUU. Is very bad. Think all EEUU are the best for all, the rest of the world doesn’t exit. The world can Live with no Americans over there. Cheers.

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  48. Tahoe Editor says:

    Yes, “taking this on”, as it was such a “sacrifice” for Michelle to fly to Denmark with Oprah to lobby for Chicago. The courage & determination is mind-blowing.
    Advantage: Reno
    http://www.kolotv.com/home/headlines/62501387.html
    Unemployment hits 9.8%.
    The Ego Has Landed
    http://www.drudgereport.com/

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  49. David Mercanus says:

    This is such an overrated story. Big surprise, he does this to help Illinois donors. What President wouldn’t? Yawn.

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  50. Dan Circelli says:

    Obama showed you something by “taking this on”? How about he takes on and actually accomplishes something with some important issues for America.
    Obama showed ME something as well. The rest of the world embraces Obama so much because he is a push over and they know it. They sent a message by giving Chicago the least number of votes and eliminating them first.

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  51. Dan Kervick says:

    I wonder of the recent beating death of 16 year old Derrion Albert had something to do with it. The last time we had an Olympics in the US, there was a bombing in the central Olympic square, which killed two people. Now just before this decision, Chicago saw one of its children brutally beaten to death on the way to school.
    Many people in other parts of the world consider American cities to be unsafe destinations. Chicago’s murder rate, at 18 per 100,000, is nine times that of Madrid and 18 times that of Tokyo.
    Rio’s is even worse than Chicago’s, at 33 per 100,000.
    Anyway, Obama showed me something by being willing to take this on. If you go to bat, sometimes you strike out. He could have played it safe by declining to get involved. But instead he stepped up, and took his cuts for the home team.

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