White House Chuckles as It Stabs Dems in Back: More on the John Bolton Nomination Story

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Something strange is cooking on the John Bolton nomination. . .
First of all, John Bolton’s nomination was formally sent to the U.S. Senate yesterday, Thursday, between 10:00 a.m. and 10:30 a.m. when the Senate was called to order for a pro forma session designed just to exhange letters and paperwork between the various branches of government.
In other words, correspondence from the White House to the Senate was received during this time.
Remarkably, House Speaker-elect Nancy Pelosi was caught off guard by the Bolton nomination. The nomination is a Senate matter — but it is also a political matter — particularly when the theme of the President’s lunch yesterday with Pelosi was “trust-building behavior” and “bipartisanship.”


Nancy Pelosi’s office would not comment on the President’s failure to inform her of the White House’s new moves on the controversial US Ambassador to the United Nations.
However, Pelosi’s office did confirm that (a) the President mentioned nothing about re-starting the Bolton process again and (b) Speaker Pelosi opposes him firmly — arguing that his brand of diplomacy has seriously undermined America’s interests and our ability to achieve our national security and foreign policy objectives in the United Nations.
The President’s office released word of the Bolton nomination at 1:22 p.m. to the public — about 7 minutes after Nancy Pelosi actually left the Oval Office.
I also queried Senator Harry Reid’s office yesterday and asked if the Senator would add “John Bolton’s UN nomination” to the roster of topics he would discuss with the President today. Reid’s office informed me that they too would not comment on the record about this aggressive, provocative move by the White House — but that Senator Reid maintained strong objection to John Bolton’s confirmation by the U.S. Senate.
Now, many have queried on whether there is a chance that Bolton would get through the Senate — despite Senator Lincoln Chafee’s formal declaration of opposition to Bolton.
The answer is NO.
The reason that the Bolton nomination was sent BACK to the Senate yesterday in a formal exchange of letters between the legislative and executive branches is that the Senate Foreign Relations Committee returned the nomination back to the Executive branch when his nomination failed to pass in September.
To keep Bolton’s nomination alive in this Congressional session and potentially considered during next week’s lame duck session, Bolton’s nomination had to be sent back to the Senate.
There are only two ways in which the Bolton nomination can make its way from the Senate Foreign Relations Committee to the Senate floor:

1. The nomination can be voted out — and requires 10 votes.
2. The nomination can be “discharged” from the Committee to the Senate floor without bias by the unanimous consent of all members of the U.S. Senate.

Neither of these options will occur. Chafee has closed down option one — and many Senators will shut down option two.
Senior staff at the Department of State have told me that the juice behind Bolton’s nomination is “100% political and 0% from the State Department.”
The question people should ask is not whether this push on Bolton will get him confirmed by the Senate — it is why the White House continues to push this pugnacious Ambassador after the elections that took place and what they think they “gain” from losing this battle in the Senate.
Remember, it is not the Democrats who have sunk Bolton — it has always been Republicans who have provided the tipping point leverage in undermining his confirmation.
The White House can’t blame the Democratic-controlled Senate for failing to get Bolton in place.
It’s time to drop him — and to give up fantasies of appointing Bolton “Deputy Ambassador” in a recess appointment and then made “Acting Ambassador.”
It’s time to consider alternatives who can manage America’s interests well at the United Nations and continue to try to reform that institution and to organize global collective action against international security threats.
Lincoln Chafee should be on that list — he’d make an incredible Ambassador. But I also support outgoing Congressman Jim Leach, who has served for many years on the House International Relations Committee. I also think current Under Secretary of State for Global Affairs Paula Dobriansky would also do a very good job at the UN.
But Bolton? No.
— Steve Clemons

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51 comments on “White House Chuckles as It Stabs Dems in Back: More on the John Bolton Nomination Story

  1. MP says:

    “This is just a thought but you guys might be missing the point. With all the committee’s that the Democrats have supeona power for, the democratic Chair’s of these committee’s have said they will investigate numerous corrupt policies that the Bush Administration have perpetuated on this country. The Democrats don’t have to say they will impeach. They can take the high road. When they uncover all the corruption and all the rats come out from under the rocks, the American people, Republicans and Democrats will demand Bush and Cheney’s resignation or impeachment. Why not let this congress perform the function of the House which is oversite, (something the Republican Congress ran away from)and as in last Tuesday’s election the people will rise up. I remember it was the Republicans who went to the White House and told Nixon he had to resign or they would have to impeach him. So It’s only been 4 days. Cool your jets and sit back and watch what unfolds. The Democrats know what they have to do, don’t underestimate them. They don’t have to show their hand quite so early. It’s going to happen.”
    My thinking exactly, Faye. I hope we’re right.

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  2. Jacob Matthan says:

    It seems almost as if Steve is having a “love affair” with Lincoln Chaffee.
    Chaffee only voted against the Republican Whip when he saw that his vote would make no difference to the outcome. He has been part of destroying the US Constitution!
    And his stance on John Bolton shows that he has NO backbone – shifting sands.
    What was that adjective about John Kerry? 🙂

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  3. EasyRider says:

    It has been floated that John Bolton may be appoint to some lower level position to bypass the Senate.
    This would be a clear violation of Article 2, Section 2 of the US Constitution:
    He shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme Court, and all other Officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by Law: but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.
    Thus a clear and blatant violation of the President’s Oath of Office; Article 2, Section 1 of the US Constitution:
    Before he enter on the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:–“I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States.”
    That too is an Impeachable Offense.

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  4. Robert Morrow says:

    “Robert Morrow, what the hell is your problem with the UN? Can’t stand peace? Can’t stand caring about disadvantaged coutries? Can’t stand cooperating with others? Just want to be a big bully with no holds barred?”
    The UN is completely irrelevant to peace and probably inhibits it. UN members regular oppress the billions of disadvantaged in their countries. I do not believe in global governance by crooks. I am a pro-American nationalist. We are the best, despite our flaws. The 1/2 of Americans that love our country are the foundation of freedom and democracy in the world. And most of those people are conservative Republicans.

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  5. steambomb says:

    This could well be an example of exactly the kind of lack of coordination that this White House has properly become infamous for.
    Posted by Rick B at November 12, 2006 10:01 AM
    Or the fact that Cheney is still calling all the shots and Bush is still just a front man and a mouthpiece for an administration that has never been accountable to the people of the United States. The more things change the more the stay the same.

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  6. Rick B says:

    Considering the fact that Bolton is a Cheney protoge and that the letter was released within minutes of Pelosi leaving her meeting with Bush, is it reasonable to suspect that Cheney never even bothered to ask Bush before resubmitting Bolton’s nomination?
    This could well be an example of exactly the kind of lack of coordination that this White House has properly become infamous for.

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  7. Steve O says:

    1. I agree that Bush loses nothing by throwing Bolton back into the fray and he is the key to Bush’s designs on sanctions against Iran. There was no more runway room to try anything else.
    2. The idea of saying impeachment is off the table doesn’t cost the Democrats one bit in the short term. Impeachment as a consequence of vigorous investigation and oversight will expose the giant sick pink elephant in the room anyway. Saying impeachment is off the table is different from saying it is not an option. The American people did not return the Democrats to power to impeach Bush, they returned them to power to restore a semblance of checks and balances to our political process and policy decisions.

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  8. Jim Ramsey says:

    How about Bush does another recess appointment of Bolton. True, Bolton would recieve no pay from the Federal government, but AIPAC and Halliburt129616on (on behalf of Cheney) could go halfsies and easily replace the lost income.
    Think of it as repsonsive politics, or privatizing the U.N. ambassadorship. Halliburton could expense their share as part of the marketting budget on one of their cost-plus Iraq contracts.

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  9. Pissed Off American says:

    I could almost buy Faye’s optimism if Reid and Pelosi’s benefactors were any other than the AIPAC “type” lobbys. Fact is, both sides are beholding to the same deep-pocket special interests. And, when it comes to the Middle East, “special interests” is spelled A-I-P-A-C.
    Reid and Pelosi may use a different stated rationale for our foreign policies as they pertain to the middle east, compared to the neo-con’s stated rationales, but in the end there will be little difference in actual policy.
    And there is NO WAY there will be honest investigations into the lies leading up to this nation’s invasion of Iraq. There are too many Democrats that were complicit, and Israel’s involvement could not help but be exposed if the digging went too deep. Anyone that looks logically at the cast of neo-con players cannot deny the strong alliances to Israel that the majority of them held.
    Besides, the next logical action of this Administration is to react strongly to another horrendous terrorist attack on American soil. It is the one event that can totally erase the effect of the recent pseudo electoral “defeat” in the “hearts and minds” of the citizenry. They simply MUST herd us all back onto the Fear Train.
    Another 9/11 style event will quench, totally, any hew and cry for investigations, and will once again cast these criminals in Washington as saviours and protectors.
    Mark my words, if these bastards need yet another “Trifecta”, than by God they will give themselves one.

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  10. William Jensen says:

    Chaffee as Ambassador to the United Nations sounds like a good idea. It won’t happen – our President doesn’t make many good decision – but it would be nice to know someone responsible, honest, reasonable and likeable would be in a position to represent America to the rest of the world. We really need the help.

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  11. Jim Ramsey says:

    Could the idea be to end up with no U.N. ambassador?
    Bush could say he proposed the best man for the job and the Senate turned it down.

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  12. Marky says:

    Bush is making a terrible mistake here.
    The voters made a very clear statement that they want change. Bush has been playing the phony
    bipartisanship game for 6 years—no one is going to be fooled by more of the same.
    If he goes on camera, smirking, and says he’s so sorry the Dems can’t be bipartisan, he’ll get whacked in the polls—bet on it.

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  13. Kathleen says:

    The more they hump away with Bolton, the more I think he actually wrote the yellowcake forgeries. He’s got something over these little tyrants that they don’t want him to spill.
    Earth to Dems. Subpoena power, use it or lose it.
    Robert Morrow, what the hell is your problem with the UN? Can’t stand peace? Can’t stand caring about disadvantaged coutries? Can’t stand cooperating with others? Just want to be a big bully with no holds barred?

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  14. FAYE MARSH says:

    This is a master chess game. Bush thinks he trumps the Democrats with announcing Barron Von Rumsfield’s resignation. He throws Bolton’s name in the ring again for UN Ambassador and kicks in the NSA spying legislation. He does this to rile the Democrates on to vocal opposition so he can say the’re reneging on compromise already. Bush doesn’t want them to have a grace period. He’s trying to stir up the opposition to fire up his base again. We can’t fall into that trap. We have the most potent weapon of all, SUPEONA POWER. Bush can run but he can’t hide. He can only try to muddy the waters and that’s what he’s doing. So we bide our time and INVESTIGATE.
    We investigate Halliburton and Kelloge Brown & Root’s profiteering. We investigate how lies got us into this misbegotten war. We investigate the real truth behind Katrina. We investigate Cheney and the so called secret meeting with all the oil companies to form U.S. energy policy. We investigate the 9 BILLION MISSING DOLLARS????(I don’t know about you guys but I can’t afford for my tax dollars to be poured down an Alice and Wonderland hole never to be found again.)
    We investigate the paper no trail left behind E voting machines. This is not a sprint guys. I don’t expect Nancy Pelosi to ram stuff down their throat. We need to keep the people that voted with us and add more besides for 08. Let’s be smart. Shift down into 2nd gear and be cool. We’ve got the power now but we must use it wisely. Let’s enjoy what just happened.
    I love your passion. You guys are the greatest!

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  15. sdemetri says:

    Faye, I hope you speak from a well informed position. That is exactly what has to happen. Some well conducted investigations, indictments where appropriate, and god knows there ought to be some very appropriate indictments, publicity and shame… the public might get behind a fair and even handed post-mortem of the past six-years.
    William Greider in The Nation intimated Pelosi becoming president through impeachment won’t happen and would look too much like a constitutional coup d’tat. With public support after thorough investigation and exposition of what’s been going on, Pelosi’s advancement could look more like a constitutional intervention. At any rate I don’t expect that to happen, though if Faye is correct, and we should push to help make this happen, the committees have to hold hearings, the rats flushed out of their holes, the tarring, feathering, and rails made ready.

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  16. FAYE MARSH says:

    This is just a thought but you guys might be missing the point. With all the committee’s that the Democrats have supeona power for, the democratic Chair’s of these committee’s have said they will investigate numerous corrupt policies that the Bush Administration have perpetuated on this country. The Democrats don’t have to say they will impeach. They can take the high road. When they uncover all the corruption and all the rats come out from under the rocks, the American people, Republicans and Democrats will demand Bush and Cheney’s resignation or impeachment. Why not let this congress perform the function of the House which is oversite, (something the Republican Congress ran away from)and as in last Tuesday’s election the people will rise up. I remember it was the Republicans who went to the White House and told Nixon he had to resign or they would have to impeach him. So It’s only been 4 days. Cool your jets and sit back and watch what unfolds. The Democrats know what they have to do, don’t underestimate them. They don’t have to show their hand quite so early. It’s going to happen.

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  17. Robert Morrow says:

    Bill Gates … Robert Gates. Ha! I’m getting my UN lovers mixed up.
    Robert Gates is going to have a lot of troubled getting confirmed. From all sides.

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  18. Marcia says:

    I think Bolton = smoke screen.

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  19. 1st 100 Days says:

    VETERANS DAY, SATURDAY NOVEMBER 11th, 2006 RECLAIMING OUR AMERICAN DEMOCRACY: A DAILY AGENDA TO RESTORE OUR AMERICAN NATION. THE 1st 100 DAYS – DAY 1: FIXING GOVERNMENT SERVICES.
    CITIZENS NEEDING OR REQUESTING ASSISTANCE FROM THEIR GOVERNMENT FOR ANY PROGRAM WHATSOEVER MUST NOT BE REQUIRED AS THEY ARE NOW AND HAVE BEEN FOR DECADES TO GO THROUGH AN ENDLESS MAZE OF BEUROCRATIC HURDLES IN ORDER TO ACCESS WHAT THEY ALREADY ARE ENTITLED TO, HAVE EARNED, AND HAVE PAID FOR THROUGH THEIR TAX MONIES BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE. THE 17 ENTIRELY UNECCESSARY AND WASTEFUL LAYERS OF GOVERNMENT WORKERS WHO RECEIVE FULL BENEFITS WHILE DENYING THOSE VERY SAME BENEFITS TO THEIR FELLOW CITIZENS MUST BE FIRED, NOW. A STRONG NATION DEMANDS A MODERN, EFFECTIVE, EQUITABLE, DIGNIFIED AND NONINTRUSIVE SYSTEM WHICH DELIVERS ACTUAL BENEFITS AND SERVICES OF ALL KINDS TO ALL OF ITS CITIZENS, WHOM THE GOVERNMENT ITSELF EXISTS TO SERVE. ALL GOVERNMENT WORKERS, OFFICIALS, ELECTED, APPOINTED, OR HIRED MUST ACCORD THE SAME DEGREE OF RESPECT AND DEFERENCE TO THE CITIZENS THEY SERVE THAT THEY WOULD IF THE GOVERNMENT REPRESENTATIVE WERE WORKING IN A RESTAURANT AS A WAITER, OR THEY VERY SHORTLY WILL BE DOING JUST THAT OR DISHES.

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  20. daCascadian says:

    Next U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. ?
    Joe Wilson
    Of course I know that won`t happen but then so what, I`m rooting for sane people to be in positions that matter.
    And Cheney would have a heart attack which would be a bonus
    “Patriotism is not a short and frenzied outburst of emotion but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime.” – Adlai E. Stevenson, Jr.

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  21. Carroll says:

    Posted by Pissed Off American at November 11, 2006 12:35 AM
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
    I know. They aren’t going to be any different. They will throw a few bones to the masses like minimun wage and maybe some lower drug prices…but nothing else will change, least of all the corruption that is at the root of 99% of our ills.
    They might holds hearings and s-t-r-e-t-c-h them out all the way to 2008, but they will never recoup a taxpayer cent or punish anyone. They will just talk and talk and talk and the game will go on and on because they are all part of it.
    Has anyone seen a single house investigation that wasn’t a redacted whitewash in the end? I haven’t.
    I hate to be a constant cynic but like I said we the people need a “catalizing event”. I am afriad the serta perfect followers of both parties will be content with their cake crumbs right up their last supper. I am keeping my Burn Washington to the Ground and Start over bumper sticker.

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  22. Checkingin says:

    Is it a FULL MOON tonight? Wow! a cacophony of thoughts I can’t keep up – Focus People! As Randi Rhodes says this is all a game A sick one, but nonetheless a game. A brand new day starts tomorrow… oh yeah, and watch for the neocon luv-fest on MTP on Sunday. No peace for the wicked!

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  23. Pissed Off American says:

    Well, Carroll, its a damned shame that this country has sunken so far that “change” just means a new batch of lying scum get to take the reins for awhile. I am truly ashamed that it takes a foreign country to recognize the need to hold OUR politicians accountable for grave human rights abuses. Obviously these assholes that are preparing to squat in both houses have no more to offer us in the way of moral leadership than this idiot Bush does.
    Maybe Steve has the right idea about kibitzing from the relative comfort of a Starbucks stool. What the hell, if you gotta wallow with scum, you might as well enjoy a nice Latte between fits of nausea.

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  24. Carroll says:

    You know I can see the German public loving this…although Merkle will try to squash it I am sure.

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  25. Pissed Off American says:

    SCREW ‘EM ALL.
    We need to fumigate Washington.
    http://www.infowars.net/articles/november2006/101106Rotten.htm
    Conyers Toes Party Line: No Impeachment
    Something Is Extremely ‘Rotten In The State Of Denmark’
    Steve Watson
    Infowars.net
    Friday, November 10, 2006
    The latest Democrat “saviour” to flip flop 180 degrees in light of their victory is Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich. Presumed to become chairman of the House Judiciary Committee in January, Conyers today said that impeachment of President Bush “is off the table.”
    “In this campaign, there was an orchestrated right-wing effort to distort my position on impeachment,” Conyers said in a statement released by his Judiciary Committee spokesman. “The incoming speaker (Rep. Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.) has said that impeachment is off the table. I am in total agreement with her on this issue: Impeachment is off the table.”
    Conyers seems to have forgotten that last December he laid out the grounds for impeachment in a 350 page long report called “The Constitution in Crisis: The Downing Street Minutes and Deception, Manipulation, Torture, Retribution and Cover-ups in the Iraq War” and later updated to add “illegal domestic surveillance.”
    For a while Conyers was the darling of left leaning bloggers and readers everywhere:
    At this site, we are especially proud of the new Conyers Report, “The Constitution in Crisis.” By purchasing this book, you have the opportunity to own a part of history and help the Congressman hold the Bush Administration accountable. Your assistance in helping Congressman Conyers become the next Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee will bring us one step closer to getting the American people the answers from this Administration that they deserve.
    http://www.afterdowningstreet.org
    Conyers is so admirable. One of the very few in Congress who still has integrity and principles. It is too bad that he does not get more MSM coverage but why would they do that? He might upset the Republican and Corporate plans for total control and could expose their nefarious doings.
    He is risking much by not following the official DNC program too, in addition to challenging the Bushies.
    – Huffington Post
    In december 2005, upon release of the report, Conyers stated:
    The Report concludes that a number of these actions amount to prima facie evidence (evidence sufficiently strong to presume the allegations are true) that federal criminal laws have been violated. Legal violations span from false statements to Congress to whistleblower laws… The Report also concludes that these charges clearly rise to the level of impeachable conduct… In response to the Report, I have already taken a number of actions. First, I have introduced a resolution (H. Res. 635) creating a Select Committee with subpoena authority to investigate the misconduct of the Bush Administration with regard to the Iraq war and report on possible impeachable offenses.
    So Conyers was already underway with setting up investigations into impeachable offences, but now he says that impeachment is off the table? Clearly he has been given orders to toe the party line or face the consequences.
    Despite the fact that 86% want to see the President impeached, leading Democrats have already ruled this out. The same leading Democrats that voted for the war in Afghanistan, for the Patriot Act, for Homeland Security and against a bill that simply condemned torture of prisoners in Iraq.
    After Nancy Pelosi and Howard Dean, Conyers is the latest Democrat to show us their true colours once in power.
    Conyers and the other Democrats highlight precisely why we need to regroup, consolidate and redouble our efforts in light of the theatrical shift of power in Washington to the left. Because as soon as this happened, overnight, the truth movement lost a great deal of support from those that believe the job is now done.
    Taking note of many reader comments over the past few days I have noticed a startling uprise in the amount of negative and dismissive feedback from some readers. Evidently those who expected us to be out dancing in the streets at the news of a Democrat landslide in Washington have been bitterly disappointed.
    We have never once suggested that the solution to a corrupt and fascist Neocon leadership is a passive and capitulating Democrat sideshow leadership, so why is it any surprise that we are continuing on the same course as before?
    Comments such as the following emphasize my point:
    “You can only have it one way. What the hell is up with you people. The whole time the Bush regime was in power you begged for change. Now you have it, but your still complaining.”
    Yes we are seeking change, but not a simple change of personnel as we have witnessed this week. As we reported yesterday “There’s no doubt about it, to see frothing Neo-Cons who have been strutting around like John Wayne for the past five years finally eat humble pie is a breath of fresh air, but let’s not be so deluded as to think that the Neo-Con agenda, which took decades to craft, was simply brushed aside by the victory of a party that has supported Bush every step of the way on major issues.”
    Seeing Bush on TV admitting he’d took a hell of a beating was great, for about five minutes, then he started laughing and joking about it and talking about pushing forward to work closely with a new crowd.
    Is rolling over and going back to sleep going to get Bush impeached? Should we shut down the websites now and go save the whales or something else we’d all love to be doing if we didn’t have to relentlessly keep fighting to stop our leaders killing our freedoms?
    Within hours the Democratic elite have shown us that they don’t give a damn about holding the Bush administration up to scrutiny. With no effective opposition in the form of a political party it is up to the people to continue to demand justice and to continue to attempt to reign in those who have heinously abused their power.
    Thomas Jefferson described Congress as “a body to which the people send one hundred and fifty lawyers, whose trade it is to question everything and yield nothing.”
    In light of this how can any representative say something like impeachment is ‘off the table?’

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  26. Carroll says:

    How utterly ironic.
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html
    Exclusive: Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse
    A lawsuit in Germany will seek a criminal prosecution of the outgoing Defense Secretary and other U.S. officials for their alleged role in abuses at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo
    By ADAM ZAGORIN
    “snip>
    Germany was chosen for the court filing because German law provides “universal jurisdiction” allowing for the prosecution of war crimes and related offenses that take place anywhere in the world. Indeed, a similar, but narrower, legal action was brought in Germany in 2004, which also sought the prosecution of Rumsfeld. The case provoked an angry response from Pentagon, and Rumsfeld himself was reportedly upset. Rumsfeld’s spokesman at the time, Lawrence DiRita, called the case a “a big, big problem.” U.S. officials made clear the case could adversely impact U.S.-Germany relations, and Rumsfeld indicated he would not attend a major security conference in Munich, where he was scheduled to be the keynote speaker, unless Germany disposed of the case. The day before the conference, a German prosecutor announced he would not pursue the matter, saying there was no indication that U.S. authorities and courts would not deal with allegations in the complaint.”

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  27. Pissed Off American says:

    Hey, check it out. While Reid and Pelosi try to figure out what to stuff in AIPAC’s Christmas stocking, Germany is figuring out what to stuff up Rummie’s….
    Uhhm, well, you get the picture.
    Amazing. These slimey bastards in this Administration have caused us to be LOATHED by the rest of the world community, yet impeachment is “off the table”.
    Exclusive: Charges Sought Against Rumsfeld Over Prison Abuse
    A lawsuit in Germany will seek a criminal prosecution of the outgoing Defense Secretary and other U.S. officials for their alleged role in abuses at Abu Ghraib and Gitmo
    http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1557842,00.html

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  28. Pissed Off American says:

    “You belong in an institution for the mentally unbalanced and confirm that everytime you post some of your delusional drivel.”
    Hey!!! Thats good, by golly. Its about time someone else showed up here that knows how to speak english.

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  29. Carroll says:

    We need to get rid of Schumer..what a scumbucket.
    Final four paragraphs –Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record) on Sunday said he doubts Democrats this time would be able to muster the 41 votes in the 100-member Senate needed to block the nomination.
    The New York Democrat also said he was reviewing his own position, after voting last year to block him, because Bolton has been a “staunch and very good defender of Israel” at the United Nations.
    “I think that if you count the votes, a filibuster is unlikely, but a lot of Democrats are deciding,” Schumer said on CNN’s Late Edition.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>
    But never fear children, we too can play the neocon game of international intrigue, defining events and realigning powers. I don’t expect a definite or immediate reply from France this soon considering the recent election. But I am going to follow up with an offer to give them back New Orleans and sweeten the deal with a few other things in consideration for their help.
    http://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/courrier/default.asp?lang=gb
    The Honorable Philippe Douste-Blazy
    Minister of Foreign Affairs
    UN Mission
    Dear Minister Douste-Blazy:
    As an American I urge Franch to shoot down the next Israeli plane that overflies Lebanon.
    We in America are in desperate need of a “catalizing event” in order to begin our second American Revolution and clean out our government before it does any more harm to us or to the world.
    I think France can provide this “second rescue” of America and bring the ME Israeli and US problem to a head sooner rather than later by such an action.
    The US congressional response to a shoot down of one of the illegal Israeli flights over Lebanon will expose our congress’s total servitude to Israel by both political parties to the American public in a dramatic way. Congress will no doubt call for attacking France or imposing sanctions on you..in short their complete insanity will be fully exposed to the American public. I can assure you however we will not let them attack France. But during congress’s ensuing hysterica in trying to declare war on Europe for Israel, we citizens would be able to depose our congress, form a third party and restore American goverment and policy.
    I implore you to do this at the first next opportunity. As you know America no longer has any friends because of our corrupt foreign policy so the timing would be perfect. France would have the support of most of the world.
    Free us from the Israelmerica insanity before it takes America down with it. Don’t let Lafayette’s cause and Lady Liberty go down in ruins.
    With respect,

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  30. daCascadian says:

    Robert Morrow >”…People like me…No way do we want some UN lover, squishy candy ass, James Baker tool…”
    Who, among the sane people on this planet, cares what people like you think ?
    You are a total nut case that thinks you know BETTER about everything than anyone else, a sure sign of pathology.
    You belong in an institution for the mentally unbalanced and confirm that everytime you post some of your delusional drivel. Go throw your psychotic nonsense around somewhere else.
    “There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things.” – Niccolo Machiavelli

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  31. Marky says:

    Looks like a miscalculation by the White House to me. Rove’s in your face tactics were repudiated by the voters on Tuesday. How can more of the same from Bush be mistaken for bipartisanship by anyone? It can’t.

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  32. Carroll says:

    The GOP stragety for 2008 is..
    The nasty Dems are being “partisan”..whaaaa…we can’t get anything done on important issues like Iraq because of them..whaaaaa..they just want to get the president..whaaaa”
    Well if the dems are as dumb as usual they will fall into this trap.They need to just get the hell on with it and ignore the talking heads and whinners or they will lose all the support they got from their base not to mention the moderates who voted for them this time around.
    The GOP wants to avoid going to jail, the dems want to prove they can lead the country in this here time of “wur”. 2 more years of policy and governing by the parties, for the parties.

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  33. DonS says:

    I take for granted that Schumer and Clinton would support Bolton. Political scumbucket expedience at its utmost. Schumer’s already tipped his hand. Hillary ain’t got nothing to lose by supporting Bolton — except among her peers, for whom she cares not, since her sights are set on ’08.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/10/washington/11boltoncnd.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
    And if he’s pulled back, Hillary can play to the gallery “I would have voted for him if ther’d been the chance”. 196360

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  34. Checkingin says:

    A) What happens if Chafee does leave the Party before the end of of this session? Could he be removed from the committee and a more republican/Bolton friendly member come in?
    Or B) If the nomination does go to the floor are you sure the votes haven’t changed? Is there ANY chance, now that the elections are over that maybe even some Democrats may have changed their minds? Maybe certain pressure re-applied? It does seem v. strange what’s going on?
    Schumer and Clinton Pressed To Reappoint Bolton
    By RUSSELL BERMAN, Staff Reporter of the Sun
    July 26, 2006
    “As the Senate prepares to consider anew the nomination of John Bolton as United Nations ambassador, Senators Schumer and Clinton are facing increasing pressure from pro-Israel groups to renounce another Democratic filibuster in light of the escalating war in the Middle East.
    The Foreign Relations Committee is set to hold a hearing on the nomination tomorrow, and several Democrats on the panel have voiced their unswerving opposition to Mr. Bolton’s nomination.
    From New York’s senators, however, there has been nothing but silence. Mr. Schumer and Mrs. Clinton voted to block Mr. Bolton’s confirmation a year ago, but they have not declared their positions this time around.
    Aides to both senators did not respond to repeated inquiries about the Bolton nomination over the last three days.
    One Jewish leader may have an idea why. The president of the Zionist Organization of America, Morton Klein, said yesterday that “important friends” of Mr. Schumer and Mrs. Clinton have confided to him that the senators are “seriously reconsidering” their position on Mr. Bolton. Mr. Klein, in a telephone interview, would not disclose the names of the friends, saying they had not given him permission to do so.”
    http://www.nysun.com/article/36756
    And, if I remember by July 31st it was in the news that Schumer said that a filibuster was unlikely?

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  35. KevinNYC says:

    Is the Bolton Nomination a sop to those conservatives pissed at Rumsfeld’s firing? The Cheney wing of the party?

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  36. Homer says:

    Stabbed Pelosi in the back?
    Depends on your perspective.
    Personally, I think it proves once again that President Bush is such a WIMP!!
    Why?
    Instead of directly telling Nancy Pelosi and the press that he had already formally sent Bolton’s nomination, President Bush posed for photos at peacemaking session at the White House.
    If Bush had one cajone he would have told like it was: Bush = WIMP

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  37. DonS says:

    “pre-arranged hit job”
    Seems like it. Hard to believe they’re that shallow. Sort of.

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  38. LJ says:

    On NPR, Norm Coleman was interviewed. One question was to the effect about the Bolton interview and and bipartisanship. Answer: her is a chance for the Democrats to prove they want to work with this President in a time of war. Second time I heard this same talking point.
    This was a pre-arranged hit job. Expect a whole lot more.

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  39. Eli Rabett says:

    I assume that if Bolton is appointed, the House can impeach him.

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  40. Robert Morrow says:

    Bolton still going to the UN madhouse? Hmmm.
    Who says Bill Gates is going to be confirmed at Pentagon? I’m not talking about the Democrats sinking him, I’m referring to the right wingers who are about to stick a fork in him.
    Bush is in a deep mess – not with the Democrats – but with the right wing of his party on so many fronts. People like me are not mad one whittle at the Democrats, like we usually are. We are furious with Bush, our first Mexican president.
    No way do we want some UN lover, squishy candy ass, James Baker tool, like Bill Gates at the Pentagon.
    The question you ought to be pondering is not is John Bolton going to the UN, but does Bill Gates have a snowball’s chance in his confirmation hearing. He could very well succumb to a pincher clamp of Democrats and right wingers.

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  41. cvcobb01 says:

    Good. I was worried there that Bush was going to continue to act like he wasn’t a scorpion until the Democratic frog was too far into the middle of the river. Now at least they have a good reminder of what they’re dealing with.

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  42. Cecelia Pena says:

    Might Bush do a recess appointment over the holidays?

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  43. Alex says:

    I think Bush 41 sees things like this and now has a jar of aspirins close by about the size of Reagan’s jelly beans.

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  44. Alex says:

    What’s surprising?
    Pelosi said Bush couldn’t be trusted.
    Bush still thinks now and the next two years that all he has to do is say it and that’s it.
    He’s in for a rude awakening finding out what checks and balances mean.
    He’s not going to make it to 2009 most likely. His signatures are all over the documents that incriminate him.
    He’ll be impeached or resign.
    He just hasn’t figured that out yet.

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  45. Eric says:

    This may be Bush’s way of trying to placate the neocons after replacing Rumsfeld with Gates. It shows the base that he is “staying the course” even as he begins to make some changes. It does not bode well for the next two years if everytime there is an olive branch the administration sends it back in flames.
    What’s sad is that the admin had a good opportunity to move forward with a new appointment, pointing to the changed political climate, without twisting the Bolton knife and decided against it.

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  46. Delia says:

    Just as long as we’re all completely clear on what Bush means by “bipartisan.” The ground rules are set. No one can have any illusions on how he intends to play the game or what he thinks he can get away with. I trust Nancy and Harry know the score.

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  47. bahzuzu says:

    “The White House can’t blame the Democratic-controlled Senate for failing to get Bolton in place.”
    But they will blame the Democrats, some how, some way. They are always in campaign mode, and somehow the White House is angling to use Bolton’s further rejection by the Senate as a strike against the “bi-partisanship” nonsense they are proclaiming which is just another lie in their unending campaign mode gamesmanship.
    You can’t ever trust them. Everything they do is for Power not the good of the country. This chastened nice-guy act is just another cover for their Satan within.

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  48. semper fubar says:

    First, I applaud Chafee for his stand on this. I’m glad he lost so the dems could take control — too bad he didn’t realize what a lost cause the republican party was, and switch sides some time ago. Maybe he would have held his seat. But I guess he had his reasons.
    Secondly – what is Bush hoping to achieve with this gambit? What’s the end game- just a big middle finger to Congress? Letting Poppy know he can’t push him around completely? Dick’s still in charge?
    Frightening, really.

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  49. marky says:

    This is nothing. Just wait until Bush makes his first signing statement, totally eviscerating the meaning of a bill that Pelosi’s Congress sends to the White House.
    If there’s any lesson to learn from yesterday’s Bolton nonsense, it is that Bush has not changed his ways at all, and expects to avoid deferring to Congress at his pleasure.
    Really, impeachment is inevitable.

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  50. M@ says:

    I guess ol’ Bush wants a dirty messkit. Should this surprise anyone, though, really? This confirms that the level of diplomacy shown by this administration is, on a scale of 1-10, about -4. Maturity level? -8. His infamous place in history will be well deserved.

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