Martinis, A Presidential Debate and More. . .

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I’ll be live-blogging the debate tonight — at home where I’ve been lounging a bit, still recovering from a night of too many pomegranate martinis with Israel/Palestine peace pusher Daniel Levy and a journalist I can’t mention.
I had hoped to watch the debates with students at Washington College out on the Eastern Shore of Maryland’s Chesapeake Bay — but I’ve decided to meet them tomorrow rather than today to give my system a chance to recover more fully from that pomegranate juice.
But on other fronts. . .

China stops all military contacts with the U.S. . . .clearly, temporarily — but we are seeing a real rollback of perceived American power. It’s like the Russians have broken one index finger, and China is going to break the other. Being the next President of the United States is going to be a miserable experience.
Lehman CEO Punched in the Face at Gym. Ouch!
Gallup says Obama leads McCain 51% to 42% going into tonight’s debate.
Today’s stock drop is the worst since 1937. We are at a major pivot point in history. Down with the incrementalists.
For those who want to feel the way I do now. . .here is the recipe for Oprah’s pomegranate martini.

More later.
— Steve Clemons

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15 comments on “Martinis, A Presidential Debate and More. . .

  1. movie fan says:

    McCain and Palin look, act and talk like amiable robots… both of them are the perfect combination to carry on the legacy of George W. Bush.
    the fact that anyone is praising McCain for his performance in the third debate proves that he and Palin have lowered people’s expectations down to nothing (don’t forget, the VP debates were a tie!)

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  2. Kathleen says:

    Cathexis…I feel the same way about the Bailout Bill and Lasagna. Just because you layer pasta and pour something red over it, doesn’t make it lasagna… that’s macaroni casserole, ala Heinz 57..
    Same deal with the Bailout Bill…when you’re cooking the books, it’s called the Big Boondoggle Bill, n’est pas?

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  3. Steve Clemons says:

    Cathexis – loved your comment. We have descended. It’s done. I
    called it a martini because Oprah did — and because that’s what
    Morton’s seemingly charged me for. . .several of them.

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  4. Cathexis says:

    Why, oh why do people call any drink served in that kind of glass a “martini?!?” Looks tasty, admittedly, but …
    Further proof of the continuing bastardization of language and our slow descent into barbarism. 🙁

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  5. Kathleen says:

    Oh, oh..pomegranate juice…now you’ll have to soend 6 months in Hades like Persephone….it could be worse..

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  6. Carroll says:

    I can’t stand listening to lying,evading McInsane any more, every time he says “my friends” I want to smash the TV screen.
    I was also disappointed that the questions from the group weren’t more specific. They were too generic and open ended.
    Here’s a question I want answered. Since the bailout was ‘evisioned’ by the two following Treasury children (below) under Paulson ….over a year ago,……. why was it sprung on congress as if the problem was just discovered and the world ending if Paulson wasn’t given sole authority and blank check within 24 hours? Hummm? And of course since congress is the stupidest of the stupids on the face of the earth they all rushed for the media spotlight to pretend to ‘study’ the bailout and try to play heros.
    One question I particulary want answered is if the little guru Swagel had gotten his way on private stock accounts for SS…would they also be bailing out SS or just WS?
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aQdenm7JAur8&refer=home
    Paulson to Name Kashkari to Oversee Bailout, WSJ Says (Update1)
    Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) — Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is expected to name Neel Kashkari to oversee the U.S. government’s $700 billion financial stabilization program, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
    Kashkari was one of the Treasury officials who negotiated the proposal to buy bad mortgage investments from financial companies with Congress “”after last year envisaging the possibility of such a plan with Phillip Swagel””, the assistant secretary for economic policy, the paper said.
    Meet the now 35 year old Kashkari, six years out of Wharton and who was a engineer before he went to work for Goldman Saks
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neel_Kashkari
    Now meet Phillip Swagel, the AEI fellow before Bush also appointed him to treasury,who also helping on the bailout plan…”over a year ago” according to the Bloomberg article.
    Here is a paper published in the WSJ Swagel wrote promoting personal WS accounts for Social Security. It was entitled Free Advice for Democrats
    http://tinyurl.com/4txept
    “Embrace personal accounts. by themselves voluntary personal accounts are neither a panacea nor a threat to the social safety net. The key is how the system works. So stop objecting to the concept personal accounts and focus on the details. Remember that most americans trust their 401k plan more than they trust congress.”
    Yea right, Americans really trust their WS 401k’s..about as much as they trust congress.
    This is the gang that is going to be spending your 700+ billion so where and to whom do you suppose your money is going to go?
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aQdenm7JAur8&refer=home
    Paulson to Name Kashkari to Oversee Bailout, WSJ Says (Update1)
    Oct. 6 (Bloomberg) — Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson is expected to name Neel Kashkari to oversee the U.S. government’s $700 billion financial stabilization program, the Wall Street Journal reported, citing people familiar with the matter.
    Kashkari was one of the Treasury officials who negotiated the proposal to buy bad mortgage investments from financial companies with Congress after last year envisaging the possibility of such a plan with Phillip Swagel, the assistant secretary for economic policy, the paper said.
    Meet the now 35 year old Kashkari, six years out of Wharton and who was a engineer before he went to work for Goldman Saks
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neel_Kashkari
    Nwo meet Phillip Swagel, the AEI fellow before Bush also appointed him to treasury,who also helping on the bailout plan…”over a year ago” according to the Bloomberg article.
    Here is a paper published in the WSJ Swagel wrote promoting personal WS accounts for Social Security. It was entitled Free Advice for Democrats
    http://tinyurl.com/4txept
    “Embrace personal accounts. by themselves voluntary personal accounts are neither a panacea nor a threat to the social safety net. The key is how the system works. So stop objecting to the concept personal accounts and focus on the details. Remember that most americans trust their 401k plan more than they trust congress.”
    This bailout plan and everything about ( and the guys behind it) absolutely reeks.
    “The last act of a corrupt regime is to loot the nation”

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  7. Mr.Murder says:

    McCain did not care to debate, the fix is in.
    Obama opened a window by bringing up McCain statements and campaign staffers, etc.
    McCain could have countered because much of each staff is riddled with bailout profiteers.
    Point of interest, i could have sworn he called Lebanon Libya during the debate when talking about the Marine crisis before correcting himself. It was not a major item, just one that many would do went trying to cover a lot of ground quickly.
    He’s got nerve to mention his stand against some of the Reagan invasions when he supports Iraq’s occupation. How dare he try to moralize Russia over Georgia when we are in two sovereign lands?
    We couldn’t challenge that if we wanted, our own presence in South Korea is what the Russian presence matches in the breakaway province.
    “Bomb, bomb Iran” does not rise to the level of Presidential merit either. Good of Obama to bring that fact up. It was extremely Reaganesque of McCain to have said that as well.
    This debate didn’t move much, most supporters are already set, and undecideds tend to vote their wallets. McCain lost those long ago with what he was saying.
    Neither has a health care plan worth a damn. the best you can hope is to get stuck with 50% of the bill, and medical billing is the same house of cards that the foreclosure scandal is propped up with. Unpaid debits justifying artificial price spikes.

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  8. WigWag says:

    Obama is getting better and better. I’ve been a huge critic of his; but he is sober, intelligent and correct about most things. I am increasingly impressed. On the other hand, McCain sounds more pathetic with each passing day. McCain is losing this debate and he knows it.

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  9. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Ten minutes into the debate its already obvious that Obama is kickin’ ass.
    Obama is coming across as more convicted, more specific, and more informed.
    McCain sounds like a rewrite of every bullshit talking point the criminal GOP has fed us now for eight years.
    I’m not crazy about Obama, but he is far and above the more convincing of the two. And after watching the vindictive winking wacko Palin crapping in our faces, a person would have to be a blathering idiot to vote for Palin/McCain.
    And BTW, Obama started this gig by advocating holding the AIG thieves accountable for partyin’ on their bail-out funds. Thats a HUGE plus, because you can rest assured this criminal lying GOP looter McCain ain’t into accountability, when you examine his operative’s actions in regards to Troopergate.

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  10. erix says:

    Mmm… Pomegranate martinis! Just more confirmation that you’re my kind of guy, Steve!
    Cheers!

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  11. Don Bacon says:

    So China objects to the USA selling arms to its breakaway province Taiwan? How narrow-minded they are. How Serbian and Georgian. Ooops.

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  12. Mr.Murder says:

    The main coincern was that the IC pushed back re:Iran.
    The NIE dispelled the Cheney lies and McCain/Palin were still parroting them. Major alarm concern there, and the world community knows people within our power structure are pushing back.
    Then they still had the nerve to talk about the economy having good fundamentals?
    Joe Biden ran laps around Palin and displayed an amazing grasp of policy. He reinforces Obama on practically every major issue. That has secured my vote unless some kind of October surprise emanates from these coming debates.
    Biden is a return to normalcy. Love him, like him, hate him, you have to respect his experience. Unless a friend who is now a major McCain supporter and was initially a Biden backer brings me any new items. He actually helped push back vs. the rogue White House, though he’s no Obama fan. That could still persuade me to some degree.

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  13. Paul Norheim says:

    Not tempted, Steve. I guess I`ll stay in Joe sic pack mode tonight,
    watching the debate and your comments…
    Dan, I`m in Europe, and we`re watching this. However, most of
    us lost our illusions during Reagan, the actor, and some of our
    leaders are stupid or horrible as well (remember Berlusconi? The
    Polish brothers?), so please don`t feel embarrassed.

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  14. Dan Kervick says:

    I’m not looking forward to the debate tonight. I have a feeling that McCain is going to turn it into a real low point for American politics, and I already feel nauseous. I hope not many people in other countries tune in. Fortunately, most people in Europe will be asleep and most people in East Asia will be at work. But if they get a gander at broken system of the world’s chief economic power in full, ugly, political-cultural meltdown, the markets will be rocked globally tomorrow.
    I hope Obama finds some way of elevating the tone and mounting the presidential platform, while dispatching McCain and ignorant tribe of selfish goons once and for all.

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  15. Mr.Murder says:

    George Herbert Hoove Walker Bush.
    A friend reitred and moved to Canada. He travels and chats online a lot. He called Bush that name. How prescient of him.
    Back before Yahoo ended their public rooms the people used to host a lot of room with unflattering names for the Shrub. “George Herbert Hoover Bush” room was always near capacity.

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