LIVE STREAM at 12:15 pm: Beyond Arab Poll Results

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Dr. Shibley Telhami of the University of Maryland has conducted a really fascinating poll of Arab public opinion, showing persistent support for a two-state solution while at the same time rising acceptance of an Iranian nuclear weapon, among other things.
From 12:15 pm – 1:45 pm TODAY, the New America Foundation/Middle East Task Force will host Dr. Telhami along with Task Force co-directors Daniel Levy and Amjad Atallah for a discussion of the poll’s findings, as well as possible implications for the series of challenges facing the Obama administration in the Middle East and beyond. The event will livestream here at TWN, and those who wish to see the event in person can RSVP here.
— Andrew Lebovich

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9 comments on “LIVE STREAM at 12:15 pm: Beyond Arab Poll Results

  1. JohnH says:

    Oh, the self-righteous indignation of Zionist hypocrisy!! “No Israelis living on Palestinian soil, an outrage they whine. How anti-Semitic!!!”
    But in fact there are no Palestinians living on Israeli soil–they’re called “Israeli Arabs,” a relic of Zionist tradition, which asserted that there was no such thing as a Palestinian.
    Who knows what outrage Abbas will commit next? Maybe he’ll suggest a loyalty oath for Jews living on Palestinian soil, virtually identical to the one that Avigdor Lieberman has proposed for Palestinians living in Israel.
    The problem with Nadine and her ilk is that she wants Israel to be free to do whatever it wants. But when Palestinians imitate Israeli behavior, it’s a sure sign of their evil nature!

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  2. nadine says:

    You’d say it was “hasbara” if I said the Sun rose in the East. No Jews in Palestine has been the standard PA position all along. Your denying it makes as much sense as denying that the Sun rises in the East.
    The original quote was supplied by WAFA, the PA news agency. Why don’t you go find it? Better still, why don’t you find some quote from Abbas where he says Jews will be able to become citizens of Palestine, the same way Arabs are citizens of Israel?

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  3. JohnH says:

    Nadine cherry picks a single poll and then accuses me of cherry picking when I counter with one!
    Fact is, the poll does not say “no Jews in Palestine.” Nadine made that up. And “no Jews in historic Palestine” is not part of the Palestinian negotiating position. Nadine made that up, too. In fact, Abu Mazen’s Fatah has already recognized the State of Israel.
    As for Abu Mazen’s “quote,” I’d love to see it in the Arabic transcript, or at least from some credible source. Odds are pretty high that this “quote” is classic hasbara, particularly considering the sources trumpeting it.
    Clearly Abu Mazen does not want to participate in a shell game where IDF troops get deputized as “NATO,” so that they can carry on the occupation without meaningful change. The reasons are obvious.

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  4. nadine says:

    “The poll says nothing about “no Jews.” Nadine made that part up. (Imagine that!)”
    The hard thing to decide as usual, is whether you are speaking from ignorance, stupidity, or are just lying. Since the choices are not mutually exclusive, it’s hard to decide. Abu Mazen, speaking in Cairo last June 29, “I will never agree that there be Jewish soldiers in NATO, and I will never agree that there will be a single Israeli among us on Palestinian soil.”
    Every single I/P negotiation has as its absolute base assumption, which neither side argues, that Arabs can stay in Israel but NOT ONE JEW can live in Palestine. That was true with Arafat, and it’s true with Abu Mazen.
    Why can’t a Jew become a citizen of Palestine? Because everybody knows he wouldn’t last a week. Such lovely people, who have been carefully taught by the PA (and Hamas) that it is a virtue to kill Jews. This basic fact of life in the Mideast is suppressed and not reported in Western media. Nonetheless, it’s a fact.
    “In two other recent polls, 55 percent of Israeli Jews agreed that a two-state solution is “essential to Israel

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  5. JohnH says:

    As usual, Nadine willfully misrepresents the poll results. In fact, Palestinians want pretty much what Israeli Jews want.
    In the poll Nadine cites, 90% of Palestinians want “Historic Palestine

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  6. nadine says:

    “How exactly are these poll results different from what Israels would say?”
    Gee, JohnH, why don’t you go find some actual polls of actual Israelis and tell us what they actually said?
    But no, fact-finding is not your style. You think it’s clever to say “You’re another!” over and over and over. Neither clever nor persuasive.

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  7. JohnH says:

    How exactly are these poll results different from what Israels would say?
    As with so many things Nadine says, you can say the exact mirror image and substitute the word “Israeli” for “Palestinian”: Israelis are totally unprepared for a two state solution or any of the compromises that are necessary to make peace with Israel.
    Yet, according to Nadine, it’s always the Palestinians’ fault.
    But the difference is that the Israeli side has all the chips and therefore has room to maneuver. The only power Palestinians have is their inconvenient and growing presence, which somehow must be accommodated.

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  8. nadine says:

    Speaking of polls, here are some results from an
    Arab World for Research & Development poll of Palestinians, just released, which asked slightly more essential questions than “what’s your attitude towards the Obama administration?” For instance, they asked, is it essential in any peace settlement that Palestine be declared from the river to the sea? i.e. no Israel? 78% say YES. 38% say the two state solution is “unacceptable”. 37% say it’s “essential” to resist occupation with violence to achieve a state, rather than negotiate or use civil disobedience.
    The Palestinians are totally unprepared for a two state solution or any of the compromises that are necessary to make peace with Israel. That’s what this poll says.
    But Dan Kervick says everybody agrees that Israel has a right to exist, it’s mere Jewish paranoia and excuse-making to doubt it. So the ARWAD pollsters must be wrong. What do they know about Palestinian attitudes? They’re only pollsters. They only just interviewed 3,000 Palestinians.
    “Four: Final Status (The state)
    With regards to the final status of Palestine and Israel please indicate which of the following you consider to be Essential, Desirable, Acceptable, Tolerable or Unacceptable as part of a peace agreement.
    Historic Palestine

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  9. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Dr. Shibley Telhami of the University of Maryland has conducted a really fascinating poll of Arab public opinion, showing persistent support for a two-state solution while at the same time rising acceptance of an Iranian nuclear weapon, among other things”
    Pfffft. And another coupla of disingenuous scripted Nadine talking points get flushed down the crapper.

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