I Can’t Wait til America Meets Joe McCain. . .Wait, I Take That Back

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It just gets more and more weird. I wonder if Senator McCain just threw his shoe at the window exclaiming “is there anything else that can go wrong?!”
— Steve Clemons

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38 comments on “I Can’t Wait til America Meets Joe McCain. . .Wait, I Take That Back

  1. steve says:

    Joe must be pretty stupid. If there’s an accident in the south-bound lanes of I-95, the north-bound lanes don’t get tied up.

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  2. kotzabsis says:

    If you are a writer two things follow. First, you should have been able to pick another’s position from his writings. I did not pick my position out of trivial boredom in Australia nor as an escape to “entertainment” but after thinking many hours about it. And if you think that my position is a “Manichaean struggle” or a Quixotean attack on windmills after the dire transformative events of 9/11, then all I can say to you is that you are trivially shallow and intellectually flippant in your considerations. Secondly, if you are merely a writer avoiding action like a plague, then you should not be so judgemental about issues of war and pontificating on the latter ex cathedra.
    Further, you would not pass a test in logic, and Plato would never allow you into his Academy. If you accept that 9/11 was an action of fanaticism in pursuit of the seventy-two virgins, how can you doubt that America’s and the West’s enemies are “irreconcilable, implacable, and malicious?”
    I did not mention Germany as it was a special case, since you yourself made only a passing comment on it and concentrated your argument on Cambodia and Rwanda. The First World War had put an arrow into the pride heart of Germans, and the Great Depression had emptied their pockets. Thus civilized Germans at the time were susceptible to the slogan of “stab-in-the-back”, and to the beer hall seductions of Hitler’s unsurpassable oratorical skills. Not that such a special case cannot happen again. If American populist stadium politics in the presence of a current ‘Depression’ have their say and vote for Obama and his ‘changing’ and ‘transformative’ policies diminished America’s global power and weakened its stand against its enemies, then Obama could unwittingly become during his administration the sire of a future American Bonaparte. And America will in turn have on its calendar the Eighteenth of Brumaire all by courtesy of Obama.
    Nicholas Kristof’s article in the New York Times is unworthy of a reply. It regurgitates and pays court to the politically and strategically bankrupt conventional wisdom of the chattering classes about the war on the extremists and continues, by implication, the mantra that the best strategy against militant fanatic Islam is to go to it with an olive branch in hand. As to the issue of jihadists recruits the answer is given by events in Iraq. Why al Qaeda and other jihadists groups are in dearth of recruits presently and use women and children as a substitute in their suicidal missions? The simple answer is that they have been defeated on the field of battle. This is the way to dry their well of recruits.

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  3. Mavis says:

    Listen carefully. You probably won’t hear me say this ever again. I’m on John McCain’s side on this one. What ones siblings do has nothing to do with the person.
    This comment is on the down low. Don’t tell any of my friends I felt bad for McCain about anything!
    Now, I must get back to campaigning for Obama.

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  4. Old Philosopher says:

    Those two McCain acorns did not fall far apart.

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  5. Paul Norheim says:

    This one is for Kotzabasis, a column by Nicholas Kristof from NYT today, titled “The
    Endorsement From Hell”.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/26/opinion/26kristof.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
    “John McCain isn’t boasting about a new endorsement, one of the very, very few he has
    received from overseas. It came a few days ago:
    “Al Qaeda will have to support McCain in the coming election,” read a commentary on a
    password-protected Islamist Web site that is closely linked to Al Qaeda and often disseminates
    the group’s propaganda.
    The endorsement left the McCain campaign sputtering, and noting helplessly that Hamas
    appears to prefer Barack Obama. Al Qaeda’s apparent enthusiasm for Mr. McCain is manifestly
    not reciprocated.
    “The transcendent challenge of our time [is] the threat of radical Islamic terrorism,” Senator
    McCain said in a major foreign policy speech this year, adding, “Any president who does not
    regard this threat as transcending all others does not deserve to sit in the White House.”
    That’s a widespread conservative belief. Mitt Romney compared the threat of militant Islam to
    that from Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union. Some conservative groups even marked
    “Islamofascism Awareness Week” earlier this month.
    Yet the endorsement of Mr. McCain by a Qaeda-affiliated Web site isn’t a surprise to security
    specialists. Richard Clarke, the former White House counterterrorism director, and Joseph Nye,
    the former chairman of the National Intelligence Council, have both suggested that Al Qaeda
    prefers Mr. McCain and might even try to use terror attacks in the coming days to tip the
    election to him.
    “From their perspective, a continuation of Bush policies is best for recruiting,” said Professor
    Nye, adding that Mr. McCain is far more likely to continue those policies.
    An American president who keeps troops in Iraq indefinitely, fulminates about Islamic
    terrorism, inclines toward military solutions and antagonizes other nations is an excellent
    recruiting tool. In contrast, an African-American president with a Muslim grandfather and a
    penchant for building bridges rather than blowing them up would give Al Qaeda recruiters fits.
    During the cold war, the American ideological fear of communism led us to mistake every
    muddle-headed leftist for a Soviet pawn. Our myopia helped lead to catastrophe in Vietnam.
    In the same way today, an exaggerated fear of “Islamofascism” elides a complex reality and
    leads us to overreact and damage our own interests. Perhaps the best example is one of the
    least-known failures in Bush administration foreign policy: Somalia.
    Today, Somalia is the world’s greatest humanitarian disaster, worse even than Darfur or
    Congo. The crisis has complex roots, and Somali warlords bear primary blame. But Bush
    administration paranoia about Islamic radicals contributed to the disaster.
    Somalia has been in chaos for many years, but in 2006 an umbrella movement called the
    Islamic Courts Union seemed close to uniting the country. The movement included both
    moderates and extremists, but it constituted the best hope for putting Somalia together again.
    Somalis were ecstatic at the prospect of having a functional government again.
    Bush administration officials, however, were aghast at the rise of an Islamist movement that
    they feared would be uncooperative in the war on terror. So they gave Ethiopia, a longtime rival
    in the region, the green light to invade, and Somalia’s best hope for peace collapsed.
    “A movement that looked as if it might end this long national nightmare was derailed, in part
    because of American and Ethiopian actions,” said Ken Menkhaus, a Somalia expert at Davidson
    College. As a result, Islamic militancy and anti-Americanism have surged, partly because
    Somalis blame Washington for the brutality of the Ethiopian occupiers.
    “There’s a level of anti-Americanism in Somalia today like nothing I’ve seen over the last 20
    years,” Professor Menkhaus said. “Somalis are furious with us for backing the Ethiopian
    intervention and occupation, provoking this huge humanitarian crisis.”
    Patrick Duplat, an expert on Somalia at Refugees International, the Washington-based
    advocacy group, says that during his last visit to Somalia, earlier this year, a local mosque was
    calling for jihad against America — something he had never heard when he lived peacefully in
    Somalia during the rise of the Islamic Courts Union.
    “The situation has dramatically taken a turn for the worse,” he said. “The U.S. chose a very
    confrontational route early on. Who knows what would have happened if the U.S. had reached
    out to moderates? But that might have averted the disaster we’re in today.”
    The greatest catastrophe is the one endured by ordinary Somalis who now must watch their
    children starve. But America’s own strategic interests have also been gravely damaged.
    The only winner has been Islamic militancy. That’s probably the core reason why Al Qaeda
    militants prefer a McCain presidency: four more years of blindness to nuance in the Muslim
    world would be a tragedy for Americans and virtually everyone else, but a boon for radical
    groups trying to recruit suicide bombers.”

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  6. Paul Norheim says:

    Just a short reply now – I`m preparing for a trip to Berlin
    tomorrow.
    Re: the misunderstandings…
    What I meant to say was that I decided to answer in a less
    polemical manner than I originally planned (it did not refer to
    your post).
    Secondly I did not intend to imply Cambodia or Rwanda under
    your concept of “civilized” societies – only the one I explicitly
    called civilized: Germany.
    Thirdly: I mentioned that ideological fanaticism “may be
    interpreted as a surrogate for religious fanaticism, and “that
    ideological fanaticism of various kinds presents a danger equal
    to religious fanaticism in modernized societies.”
    You seem to agree. Fine.
    And then you said: “You seem to be unaware that apocalypses
    have a greater potential to come from the DELIBERATE action of
    religious and ideological beliefs than from the ACCIDENTS of
    war due to…”
    I am well aware of the dangers of deliberate actions of religious
    and ideological beliefs. This is the reason why I consider
    Pakistan the potentially most dangerous country in the world at
    the moment: a collapsing economy, a weak state control, strong
    fundamentalist elements in the population, the military, the
    intelligence and in various organizations (like al Qaeda and
    Taliban) — if you add to that the risk that these elements
    could obtain control over the nuclear arsenal, and the question
    of Kashmir, there is a huge risk for an apocalyptical scenario.
    The main point of my post above was to show that in the
    nuclear age there are countless of other potential risks as well –
    NOT involving religious fanaticism. And on that point, I guess
    we disagree.
    And then to the last misunderstanding: “You would have been
    rejected as a weak ‘general’ under Gustavus the Great. (…)
    “Ability to understand a question from all sides meant that one
    was totally unfitted for action.” (Thucydides)
    You seem to have misunderstood my role: I am not a man of
    action involved in a war, I am a writer. A writer who, unlike you,
    is not involved in a manichaean struggle of global proportions
    “against one’s irreconcilable, implacable, and malicious
    enemies”.
    Life seems boring and trivial in Australia, as well as in Norway,
    doesen`t it? You seem to have chosen Don Quijote`s strategy,
    fighting a “war”, acting as if you were surrounded by enemies.
    Must be entertaining for you.
    In my next post, I`ll paste from an article in the New York
    Times. Some food for thought, and somehow more directly
    linked to Clemons`original post.

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  7. alan says:

    One curse that every President has had to bear is an **sh**e relative. It’s almost a given.

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  8. kotzabasis says:

    Paul, you have a very weak definition of “polemical” to consider my gentle ‘strokes’ upon you as being polemical. You would have been rejected as a weak ‘general’ under Gustavus the Great. You also have a very weird definition of a civilized society if you include as such Cambodia and Rwanda. As you well know a civilized society includes not only cultural factors but also political and juridical ones such as democracy and habeas corpus. Neither Cambodia nor Rwanda was in that category. Both of them were inflicted by apocalyptic “religious hysteria,” Cambodia’s rising from the Althusserian school of apocalyptic Marxism whose students included some of the future leaders of Cambodia such as Pol Pot, and Rwanda’s partly from a primitive understanding of Christianity and tribal hatred which is the bane of Africa. Your examples by the way by an intellectual acrobatic lapse support the core of my argument, i.e., apocalypses are incubated and arise from religio-politico fanatical ideologies.
    I also notice that your cognitive tools of analysis are rather blunt, refraining myself from the temptation to be polemical. You seem to be unaware that apocalypses have a greater potential to come from the DELIBERATE action of religious and ideological beliefs than from the ACCIDENTS of war due to the “stupidity and lack of fantasy among…political and military leaders.” No Western leader ever had an apocalyptic agenda nor was he imbued with ideological fanaticism, with the exception of Hitler and Stalin, but Ahmadinejad of Iran has such an agenda. This is the fundamental difference which you miss. But it’s obvious that you are not strong on fundamentals.
    And you are not wrong in your “assumptions.” Once one identifies by the scrupulous method of historical knowledge and examples one’s irreconcilable, implacable, and malicious enemies one is compelled “knowing thy enemy” to make a clear and unequivocal stand between good and evil. The question is which is more “simplistic” to continue the ‘fine tuning’ of one’s intellectual deliberations, which obviously is your inclination, at a time when it’s simply evident who your real enemy is. “Ability to understand a question from all sides meant that one was totally unfitted for action.” (Thucydides)
    In your penultimate paragraph you fantasize when you depict the politically femme fatale Sarah Palin could potentially unravel an American “apocalyptical scenario.”
    I enjoyed this civilized discussion sans name calling and sarcastic vitriol. But your apocalyptical equilibrium between fanatical Islam and the ‘pockets’ of religious and ideological fanaticism that exist in the West is dead wrong and has no historical legitimacy.
    Adieu my friend
    P.S.If you can spare the time click on my name and go to my site and tell me what you think of my proposal how to win the war in Afghanistan.

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  9. Paul Norheim says:

    OK Kotzabasis, I`ll try to answer this in a less polemical
    manner,
    because you actually raise a very interesting question.
    What about one of those most “civilized” ones, like for example
    Germany 70 years ago?
    Cambodia 30 years ago?
    Rwanda less than 15 years ago?
    As you notice, I mentioned actual apocalypses in modern time,
    not “potential” ones; some confined to a national scale, one of
    them on a more or less global scale.
    All of them had strong elements of ideological fanaticism –
    which perhaps may be interpreted as a surrogate for religious
    fanaticism. In the top leadership of the Rwandan genocide, it`s
    said that religious hysteria (of a Christian type) played a certain
    role as well, but I don`t think it was crucial.
    You may also think of WW1, where a certain stupidity and lack
    of phantasy among the European political and military leaders
    may have played a role (most of the even thought that the
    calamities would be over in a matter of weeks…)
    In the nuclear age, I have no trouble seeing some of the bigger
    powers, or even the biggest of them all, “bringing on” an
    apocalypse, perhaps aided by a smaller state with a ruthless
    leadership or leaders lacking judgment regarding dangers on a
    geopolitical level. In a different political climate, the crisis in
    Georgia may have escalated.
    I could easily imagine several scenarios, some including states
    where religious fanaticism certainly plays an important role,
    some where religion plays no crucial role, or no role at all.
    And one of those scenarios is the Global War On Terror – this
    could bring on an apocalypse on a huge scale, due to lack of
    sound judgement, BOTH from the “civilized” society and
    societies “mired in religious fanaticism”. And as you may well
    know, there are both moderate religious worshippers and
    fanatics both in a country like, say Iran, and in a country like,
    say USA – although this kind of fanaticism obviously may play a
    more dangerous role in a theocracy. My point is: the division
    between those mired in religious fanaticism and more sober
    worshippers, does not respect national borders.
    During the Cold War, the world was close to such a scenario at
    least once (Kennedy/Khrushchev), and this had little to do with
    religious fanaticism. I would say that ideological fanaticism of
    various kinds presents a danger equal to religious fanaticism in
    modernized societies.
    One of the important questions during conflicts in the nuclear
    age: what role do the mainstream media play? The role of
    propaganda from both sides? And more important: how does
    the leadership of a nation interpret the situation? How does it
    balance threats with diplomacy? How does it interpret
    intelligence and rumors?
    And in cases of asymmetrical warfare, terrorism or failed states:
    how does it avoid overreacting, or using a certain situation as
    an excuse to legitimize other agendas?
    My impression is that you, kotzabasis, have a rather simplistic
    view on these matters. That you divide the world into two
    forces: the civilized (“good”) world against the dangerous
    societies “mired in religious fanaticism” (read: Islam). (Correct
    me if I`m wrong in my assumptions).
    In our contemporary world, I believe that the issues are much
    more complicated than that. This is not to say that religious
    fanaticism does not present a potential danger. Kashmir is just
    one example of a hot spot where a fusion of nationalism and
    religious fanaticism may be a crucial factor if it all blew up.
    Iran may become very dangerous if it feels seriously threatened.
    But so may Israel (and not due to “religious fanaticism”). Or
    North Korea, in a state of paranoia, enforced by propaganda,
    and lacking credible intelligence.
    Even America may become dangerous if it should go in decline
    – and if some hardliners in politics or in the army became
    desperate to regain its hegemonic position. And if the GOP wins
    this election and McCain`s VP candidate Sarah Palin should end
    up as the woman in charge of the worlds`only superpower, that
    could be another example of an apocalyptical scenario where
    religious fanaticism may play a role.
    Potentially.
    In fact, the potential apocalyptic scenarios are legio. However, I
    doubt that Norway or Australia will play a crucial role in any of
    those scenarios in the near future.
    I am curious to hear your thoughts on this.

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  10. kotzabasis says:

    Paul Norheim
    Since you appear to be a ‘Nostradamus’ on apocalypses you should be able too to pose the right question about apocalypses. What kind of society has a greater potential to ‘bring on’ an apocalypse, a civilized one, such as America and Scandinavia are, of which you are one of its offshoots, or one that is versed and mired in religious fanaticism?

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  11. Paul Norheim says:

    “some folks would like to move forward again…”
    Kotzabasi apparently wants to move backward straight into the
    apocalypses.

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  12. ... says:

    kotzabasi did you read Steve’s article – “Josh Tulkin, Terrorist?” it would appear your thinking is no different then Krauthammer and the numerous other fear/war mongers on the far right that the far right love to quote… 9-11 sure was a perfect opportunity to bring in a fascist type gov’t under bush… it also means you have to regularly categorize people like Josh Tulkins as terrorists… take a look at how the USA is viewed internationally to get an understanding on how regressive the Bush admin has been.. a McCain admin who only help to further this same direction towards militarization, gov’t spying, no accountability, and on and on… some folks would like to move forward again…

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  13. Steve Clemons says:

    Sudhir – please stop posting items that have nothing to do with the underlying post. You have crossed the line of what is acceptable. So stop, or I’ll have to have you blocked.
    Thanks,
    Steve Clemons

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  14. Sudhir Afridi says:

    Non-governmental organizations can do much help with the poverty struck tribal people if there is sincerity and that their goal in real sense is to serve the poor and ailing humanity in the tribal areas of Pakistan.Non-governmental Organizations throughout the World are working on non-profit basis as it is certainly clear from their manifestos that they would assist the needy and poor people without exploiting them for their personal gains. Commuinity Motivation and Development Organization (CMDO) is also a non-profit organization, which has focused on work solely the tribal areas for the last one decade. In the post cold war era its target was demining the tribal areas as in some parts of FATA and on the border areas the fighters and the Russians troops had spread mines (bombs), which could have crippled lot of tribal people living on the Pak Afghan, border. We don’t know why this NGO forgot to leave that project or goal, but one of the workers of this organization long ago had confided that CMDO had no benefits in mining project because the Donor Agencies had not funded it and second Princess Diana also passed away very early who was also working on demining in the World. In short this organization changed its way in the middle.
    CMDO and many other NGOs are basically not able to help the tribal people if the International Donor Agencies don’t assist them in funding. Most of the NGOs working in tribal areas are run and owned by those who are basically not tribesmen as they belong to the settled areas of NWFP and other parts of Pakistan. The tribesmen are sure that NGOs also exploit their basic rights and the funds allocated for their prosperity and development as other departments of the government. People in FATA are of the view that International Donor countries and Agencies should directly contact the social and educated people of tribal areas so that the tribal people could in real sense avail all the funds and projects. Once I asked Steep, a responsible person of World Bank that World Bank and IMF etc should directly invest and provide funds for FATA development rather than they should give any thing to non-tribal people. Steep of World Bank had fully seconded and supported my view but a team of CMDO who had accompanied him minded this and requested me not to create problems for them. This was a clear indication that the organizers of CMDO were interested only to get funds on the name of FATA development though they have no concern with the progress of FATA.
    Now CMDO has been running another project under the title of “Mitigating Child Labour through education” which is funded by “Save the Children UK”. Under this project CMDO has chosen 14 schools from the whole tribal belt and have chosen at least 20 students from each school who are provided with bags, pencils and note books which is another joke with the tribal people, this was observed by a teacher in a school. This puts a very negative impression on the children in FATA Schools who are debarred from notebooks, pencils and rubbers.
    The girls schools run by this NGO in Landikotal have also produced no results as their own spoons just get monthly salaries instead of educating the poor tribal girls. Most of the NGOs working in tribal areas have nothing to show but only paper work to throw dust into the eyes of the Donor Agencies and Countries to get more funds. The owners and other team members get very much high salaries, which they really don’t deserve. The tribal people are well aware of these fraudy people of NGOs and that is why people in FATA don’t support and encourage them. The people in tribal areas blame them for working on the Western Agenda to spoil the tribal culture of modesty and faith. They cannot show solid projects on ground. In short the NGOs people are working to make money by exploiting the words poverty and illiteracy in the tribal areas of Pakistan. There is a serious lack of devotion and dedication in NGOs to mitigate miseries of the tribal people.

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  15. Bil says:

    Carsick, Meghan’s late man…

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  16. carol says:

    It seems the McCain’s have a problem with anything
    that doesn’t go their way…who do they think they are??
    Obviously it is a family trait and being a hot head runs in the family….I do hope he was held accountable for wasting “important” police time like helping someone who REALLY HAD AN EMERGENCY.
    The more you see and hear about these McCains the nastier they become….do they feel the are owed something here???

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  17. roger says:

    i feel sorry for john…think i’ll vote for him…
    ROFL

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  18. Sudhir Afridi says:

    Khasadar Force in tribal areas sans reforms and facilities in the last one-century? Khasadars still get minimum salaries from 3 thousand to 5 thousand
    The British Empire had recruited the local Khasadars in 1890 from within the tribal areas as a force based on privileges for the Chieftains and tribal elders to some how win their support to control the whole tribal areas in a peaceful manner. The British Regime had recruited the khasadars, which was indirectly a political and financial bribe to the influential and powerful elite class in tribal areas. Basically the Khasadars were watchmen and their duty was to escort the British officers wandering in the tribal areas. Under the British rule the khasadars would be paid only monthly salaries (Kharcha), which was more than enough for them as they would be from the very poor back ground in that time of British Rule. Since the recruitment till 1990 the Maliks and elders of the tribes would try to provide a Khasadar for recruitment who would be disable, one eyed or lame. Mean to say that a healthy person would hardly go into Khasadar Force in the past. Some people would also consider it shameful to be a Khasadar.The Khasadars used to enjoy only salaries nothing more. The British Regime had not given the Khasadar Force a status of a regular force with pensions and other perks and privileges as government servants and soldiers enjoy. Even at that time the British Regime had not allowed the Khasadar Force to have lunch, dinner and breakfast with government expenditures from the treasury. Since that time the Khasadars have been using and carrying their own weapons, bullets and uniform.
    By the time only in Landikotal Tehsil there are more than 1257 soldiers in Khasadar Force. The Shinwari tribes have 250 khasadars with two subidars and 4 naib subidars. Their duty is to control and a watch in 46 check posts and pickets in the surrounding of Shinwari tribes. Shelmani tribes enjoy 295 khasadars, two subidars and four naib subidars. They are posted for at least 7 posts and pickets in the Shelman areas. Zakha Khel tribes in Khyber Pakhai areas have recruited at least 212 khasadars, two subidars and 7 naib subidars in a short area of 8 kilometers square. Their duty is to control and monitor the area from nine posts and few pickets as well. Bazaar Zakha Khel enjoys the support of some 500 khasadars, two subidars and 9 naib subidars. They are posted for only 4 posts in the Bazaar Zakha khel area. The twelve hundred and fifty seven khasadars in the Landikotal sub-division are all disappointed from their future as government servants.
    In the last more than one century since the British Regime till the present rulers of the Independent and Sovereign Pakistan the rulers and the policy makers did not try and even ponder over to bring some reforms in the Khasadars Force. They have been weeping that they are not able to meet their domestic needs as from the very thin salaries it is hard to feed and educate their children in a proper way. Some of the senior khasadars complained on condition of anonymity that the administration was not ready to pay them for lunch, dinner and breakfast. They told that they were compelled to pay from their own pickets. They also told that while an official person or any other dignitary was coming, they were bound to pay from their own pockets on transport. The government does not provide transport and weapons in this 21st century, told a subidar hiding his identity. They asked the rulers particularly the President and the Governor NWFP to pay attention towards the Khasadars, introduce reforms and pay them pensions like basic facilities. It is also a fact that senior most and poor khasadars are devoid of promotion to the next rank. Some of the senior khasadars complained that junior and fresh khasadars have been promoted to the rank of subidars, which was an attack on the rights of the poor and senior most khasadars. The Khasadars cannot dream to be promoted or posted on a post where he could though illegally make some money if he is poor and from a backward family. It is also noteworthy that Khasadars from elite class never turn up to their duties as per required from a government servant. In time of need and emergency and tension like situations the poor khasadars are asked to move ahead and in case they lost lives or suffer any serious casualty then they have to be silent and patient for the political administration is never happy to help such type of suffering khasadars or the heirs of the lost ones.

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  19. Sudhir Afridi says:

    Afghans must be repatriated
    The people of Pakistan and their government welcomed the miserable Afghans some thirty years back when Russian Red Forces had invaded the soil of Afghanistan. It was under no rules and principles right for Russian Forces to attack the territory of Afghanistan. The American and NATO Forces have also trampled the UN rules regarding their invasion on the state and sovereignty of Afghanistan. It was just a pretext that Taliban and the leadership of Al-Qaeda harboring there had planned the attack on twin towers on 9/11.Basically the American Forces were aimed to come and possess the Afghan land and make slave Afghan people for an indefinite period to accomplish their agenda of New World Order. The US and NATO presence in Afghanistan is for multifaceted goals.
    The repatriation of Afghan people from all the corners of Pakistan, especially NWFP and the Tribal areas is very much necessary for the social uplift of these areas and for the prosperity of the people of these areas. Hospitality of thirty years is enough. The more the Afghans prolong their stay over here the worse the native people will have to suffer on their hands. Forexample, energy crisis in Pakistan cannot be resolved within the next ten years because our establishment and rulers have not planned to overcome it. The large population of Afghans in the tribal areas and NWFP have added to the miseries and they are an extra load on the Pukhtoon society. The population of Afghans living in the NWFP and FATA is in millions, which have doubled the energy crisis.
    The large population of Afghans have also caused price hike in our society, as the food items grown here are not enough for the local residents. Their large population has also possessed the fertile lands in our country due to which the growing quality of the lands have been badly affected and the growth rate has decreased to much extent. The local people instead of cultivating their lands give the lands to Afghans to make homes on it for which they have to pay monthly fee.
    The law and order situation throughout Pakistan is not satisfactory. Mainly in FATA the security situation is disturbed by these Afghans. One will find the Afghans on the scene behind every incident. The crime rate in our society has gone up due to the Afghans, as they want to make money by hook or by crook. The Klansinkove and heroine cultures have taken birth here after the migration of the Afghans into Pakistan. Pakistan was supposed to restrict the Afghans within their proper camps, but unfortunately our ineligible establishment was not able to foresee the bad affects of the Afghans on our society. The government of Pakistan at that time procured them asylum as a Muslim neighbor, but the Afghans reciprocated in a very bad manner in vise versa. The Afghans are compelled from their stinging nature.
    The unemployment and price hike have shaken the foundations of our country. The down trodden and hand to mouth persons usually commit suicides because they are not capable to feed, cloth and educate their children. I think we can minimize the ratio of the crimes, unemployment and the volume of price hike could be decreased only if the government decides to repatriate the Afghans with dignity. It is the prime responsibity of American and Europeans to accommodate the Afghans and call them back from Pakistan and Iran. The Americans should forget that only they would carry the gold and jewels from the Afghan soil while Pakistan and its people would bear the negative consequences of the Afghans. The load of Afghans has got weightier on the weak and fragile shoulders of Pakistan. Now we need to transfer that load to the shoulders of Americans and Europeans. It is enough we suffered much due to Afghans in Pakistan. The Afghans should also brotherly think over their safe return to their homeland because it is impossible to rebuild Afghanistan without their complete participation. They should not lose courage to rebuild their country. The aliens people will never put their country on the path of development. The Imperialist Powers have their own agendas. Means justify the ends for them.

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  20. Sudhir Afridi says:

    Tribesmen said goodbye to Musharraf
    The tribesmen from the whole tribal belt have expressed satisfaction over the shameful resignation of President Pervez Musharaf from the chair of the President of Pakistan.Pervez Musharaf at last bowed down before the democratic forces under the constant and continuous pressure from the public of Pakistan. The judiciary, particularly the sacked judges, the lawyers and the media of Pakistan have rightly played a very pivotal role in forcing the belligerent, tricky and transgressor President Musharaf to step down, as he was a burden on the country and that the public were no more willing to carry the filthy load of Musharraf who was alleged to be the enemy of Islam, democracy and Pakistan. General Musharraf usurped the powers of the elected parliament in the past nine years of his reign. He had taken over the powers from an elected Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif in a bloodless coup in 1999 under a staged bogus and fake drama just to throw dust into the eyes of the people of Pakistan and to misguide the World Community.
    President Musharraf is solely responsible for the turmoil and upheaval in the country, particularly in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas of Pakistan. In his past nine years period in the Presidency, General Retd Pervaz Musharraf could not spare a single moment to visit any restive tribal area to listen to the miserable tribesmen to alleviate their grievances, as all the seven tribal agencies and the six Frontier Regions were directly under his Command and authority. He on the one hand always made appeals to the World Community to sponsor Pakistan to remove backwardness and poverty from the Tribal region whereas on the other hand he blackmailed the tribesmen to be extremists and hosts of terrorists in FATA, but he has reportedly and covertly misused all the development funds provided for the FATA against the tribesmen for their blood shed in the futile military operations in tribal region. President Musharraf was generous to the tribesmen in giving them military operations and bombardments to push them to the Stone Age and to devoid them from all basic human and democratic rights. Musharraf was the first army General and the President of Pakistan who accepted responsibility for the missiles fired by the US drones in which hundred of innocent tribesmen had been reportedly killed. That was certainly his negligence of the sanctity of sovereignty of the country, which was at stake due to his insensible foreign policies. For the first time in the history of Pakistan, the tribal people avoided to celebrate the 62nd Independence Day with national zeal, fervor and zest, as the tribal people were in hurry from Bajaur to Waziristan to find shelters to avoid bombardments and blood shed, that was a gift of the then President for the tribesmen.
    The tribesmen celebrated joy and pleasure on the resignation of Musharraf, but at the same time the ten million tribesmen have demanded from the top leadership of the Coalition in Pakistan to put him on judicial trial to let him be hanged for his long time crimes against the Pakistanis, the tribal people, judiciary and the Parliament.Pervez Musharraf had changed the army into a mercenary one which was fighting against the tribal people to appease the American President Bush, who was the greatest sponsor and saviour of Musharraf.Musharraf was a dishonest President who had covertly taken money in return for handing over its citizens to Americans. His book In the line of fire is a witness against him. A large number of people have been still missing in the country for unknown reasons whose families are on protests and seek justice but in vain. Pervez Musharaf in the past had never kept his words and promises with the nation and the elected representatives of the people regarding his resignation from the post of the army chief. He sacked the judges of the Judiciary to protect his illegal rule and decisions, which was a clear violation of the constitution. He overtly trampled the constitution of Pakistan under his feet more than once, for which he is bound to be trialed and executed to make him a mark in history for the new generations in Pakistan. Anyhow, the countrymen and the tribesmen have really displayed their joys and pleasures soon after they heard of the resignation of Musharraf.People and the political leadership are all-optimistic that good days of peace would start dawning with his fall from the Presidency. The so -called war on terror would now also wane after his debacle, as Musharraf had put the country to be a frontline ally in the so-called war on terror for the preservation of the interests of Americans. Pakistan would now come back to the right track of democracy and the human rights of the people would be no more exploited for the others. The incumbent Chief of Army Staff General Ashfaq Pervez Kayany also deserves praise and admiration for dragging away the army from the arena of politics in Pakistan. He proved to be neutral in the tug of war between the Coalition Government and the then President Musharraf. The present General is resolute to make the army in real sense a professional force to protect the exterior borders of the country.

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  21. Sudhir Afridi says:

    Might is right
    I was really wonder struck when I read the concerns of the Western and American media on the Internet and heard through their electronic media regarding the suppression of the voices and agitation of the Tibetans by the Chinese government. The world has no right to interfere in the internal affairs of any sovereign state. But contrary to this it is also the moral right of every State and government to raise objections on the violations of the basic human rights through out the world. I don’t mean that China is justified in its stand on the issue of the Tibet. Surely China can force down and silence the cries and the demands of the people of Tibet in relation to the independence of Tibet, but not forever. At last Chinese government would be willing to give at least maximum autonomy to the Tibetans and would restore all the democratic and human rights of the people of the Republic in China. The present century is that of democracy and media and it is not possible for any regime to refuse basic rights to its citizens for long. The World has certainly become a “Global Village” and the dwellers of the globe are all interconnected through one medium or the other and directly or indirectly get affected from the situation prevailing any where in the World. If Chinese Rulers want to make their state the Super Power of the World and lead the countries of the world, it will have to show maximum flexibility with regard to human rights and democracy. Chinese people can be ruled for some time through the dictatorship of Communist Party, however, the world can not be ruled over for a single day with the stick of dictatorship. Secondly the philosophy of communism has been buried in the Soviet Republic of Russia where from it had emerged. Rightly it was the defeat of Capitalism when Communism had taken birth. Both Communism and Capitalism are in nature “Secular” and there is no concept of morality in them that is why they cannot claim to be the leading ideologies with justice and fairness. Coming to my basic point I can say that China is capable to rule over its people besides Tibetans but as long as the Communist Party enjoys the mighty stick. After coming out from China, the Chinese people will surely be impressed by the different cultures, civilizations and languages spread in the world. Either the Chinese will recognize them or will surely compromise on some points of the opposite cultures and civilizations which suit them and prove beneficial for them. By not allowing the other cultures to penetrate into the society of China, it definitely means that Chinese Ruling Class is afraid that alien cultures and languages can badly affect their society from the inside.
    The American Regime is justified to raise a voice for the people and their basic rights to be restored and kept intact, but how far the American people and their ruling class can justify their occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan as well. It is no longer a fact that Al-Qaeda and Taliban from within the shattered and broken Afghanistan had attacked to destroy the Twin Towers in USA.The leadership of Al-Qaeda and Taliban neither had nor have any sophisticated weapons and other resources through which they could uproot the imperialists and international terrorist “USA”. Every sober and learned person in the World knows it better that US President Bush and his regime were only seeking a pretext to somehow attack and capture Afghanistan for implementing its long cherished New World Order. Similarly the US regime launched a widespread and impressive propaganda against Sadam Hussain and his regime for holding weapons of mass destruction. The US forces smashed the integrity and sovereignty of Iraq after their invasion but so far failed to recover or prove the availability of any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. The basic goal of the US Regime was to bring the Middle East under their direct or indirect imperialistic rule, so that the biggest oil reservoirs could be utilized for strengthening their powers to rule over the whole world and facilitate their own people. Secondly the Bush administration had intended to protect Israel from being blotted out by Iran, Syria, Hamas and the other anti Israel states. The American President blackmailed the extremist regime of Taliban led by Mula Omer, the one eyed, with the blame that Taliban and Al-Qaeda had jointly planned to attack the Twin Towers killing the innocent Christians only as the Jewish employees had already vacated the Twin Towers fearing the attack .The barren and land locked Afghanistan has nothing to procure to the power and money hungry “Bushes” and Dick Cheneys.but its Geo -strategic location is very much significant for the US and NATO forces to control China, Central Asian States, Pakistan and Iran simultaneously. The American policy makers and their people in general have no concern with the issues of human rights, democracy and the sovereignty of a state. They are greedy and selfish to much extent to go beyond every limit of violating all the basic rights of the people and subverting the recognized terms and treaties regarding war and peace. The US army sabotaged all the rules and regulations set in the Geneva Convention, by detaining people of every category including ambassador of Taliban regime in Cuba. Cuba is not a state of America, but by force it has opened a jail there so that US Courts could not take notice of the human rights violations there, which is out of their jurisdiction. In Afghanistan the US army and the NATO Forces even did not forgive the innocent women and children going in the wedding processions to enjoy some moments of pleasure. The US jet fighters often strike the villages in the tribal areas of Pakistan in which innocent and unaware people including women and children get lost their precious lives. The lives of the Pushtoons have no value as they are killed in the best national interests of the West and America and President Pervez Musharraf. This is rightly a crusade because the Western rulers are all silent on the atrocities committed by US army in Afghanistan and IRAQ as well. The American interference in the internal political affairs of Pakistan is not some thing secret. An illiterate person in the Muslim world also knows better what the US President and its hand picked cabinet were doing for their vested interests. Amrican lobbyists are happy to flourish and nourish Sheikhdom in the Arab World because it is in their best financial interests to strengthen the Sheikhdom in the Middle East, in Pakistan the US President openly supports an illegal dictator Prevez Musharraf while in Afghanistan and in some parts of the World like Sudan and Syria he becomes the champion of democracy and human rights. How far is the US army justified to strike the populace villages in the tribal areas of Paksiatn, which is brazenly a violation of the sovereignty and space of an independent State? Pakistan under an unconstitutional, illegal President and the then Chief of army Pervez Musharraf has been a front state ally of the US against the so-called war on terror. This shows that the West and the US are merely interested in their own financial and economical gains rather than upholding the cause of democracy and the human rights in the world.
    Israel has illegally captured much of the land of the Palestinians and that of the Jordan and Syria. Nobody can justify the killings of the innocent people of Palestine who are yelling to get back their lands. American and the Britain are the staunch supporters of Israel and pitches it on its back to kill more and more Mslims in Palestine to ensuer its protection from the Arab World The US and the West considers the small flower like children to be terrorits who pelt the tanks and soldiers of Israel with stones ,but are blind to see the heavily armed Israeli soldiers who bulldoze the homes of Palestinians and brutally kill them in their own streets. Might is right, but this rule and policy would repeat itself in future.As you sow so shall you reap The Indian government is also not justified to snatch rights from the people of the occupied Kashmir. The Kashmiris should be given their right of plebiscite as per the resolutions of the Untied Nations. At last the occupiers will have to vacate the lands to the original people of the occupied lands. Russia might have gotten some lesson from the harsh and unforgettable defeat in Afghanistan. If the British, the Germans and the Russians could not cover the whole world for long, how long the American Forces would control Afghanistan and Iraq?
    Sudhir Ahmad Afridi

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  22. Sudhir Afridi says:

    FCR is an inhuman regulation of British imperialists
    Action aid, Karwan-e-Qabial a news paper and SDP jointly organized a day long seminar in Islamabad under the title of reforms in FCR and its modalities which was largely attended by tribal political leaders, tribal journalists, students, lawyers and many others from tribal areas. The speakers irrespective of their affiliations stressed the need that it was a ripe time for the government to abolish Frontier Crimes Regulations (FCR) which had been introduced and imposed by the British Government in 1901 in the Balochistan, NWFP and The Tribal belt to suppress the freedom movement and the voices of the people for their basic human and political rights. This draconian law or regulation had been removed from the NWFP and Balochistan in the fifties and sixties, but unfortunately the tribesmen remained pressed under this law, which is still in practice.
    The speakers on this occasion also demanded that a separate Tribal province be set up for the tribal people keeping in view their traditions, customs and particular culture. It was also demanded by the speakers that an elected tribal council should be established for the whole FATA, so that the elected representatives could think over the modalities for the new system in FATA according to the tribal norms and traditions. Majority of the attendants categorically discarded the view that FATA should be merged into the NWFP.Some of the speakers urged that by the time government should introduce some basic amendments in FCR to make it compatible with human rights and Islam. Federal Minister for environment Hamid Ullah Afridi suggested that after sustainable development in tribal areas, any change should be brought into FCR.He also informed the attendants that a committee had been formed to ponder over amendments in this century old system to give some relief to the miserable tribesmen.
    The speakers of the seminar on FCR also made it crystal clear that they had no relation with terrorism or extremism, but they said that it was the establishment, which was blackmailing the unaware and backward tribal people for their own vested interests. They said that Tribal People were more patriot and Staunch Muslims and were the real Custodians of Pakistan and Islam. The speakers our rightly condemned the military action or operation in the tribal areas. It was also demanded from the government to create a system of check and balance in the tribal areas to check the wide spread corruption in FATA.The tribal people will never accept any change in FCR until and unless the tribesmen are taken into confidence in this regard, stressed the speakers. The violations of human right and the rights of the women folk also came under discussion and the speakers agreed that women also had equal rights as men, but the women should respect the strict veil culture of tribal areas. The speakers also flayed the negative role of the rulers ignoring the sustainable development in tribal areas. They also said that the government was not serious to carry out any mega projects in FATA for the durable development and prosperity of the tribesmen. Share in NFC Award and Budget were also the basic demands of the speakers.

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  23. Sudhir Afridi says:

    Abolishment of “Tender System” in Khyber Agency has become controversial. Revival of Nomination System is yet to be resolved.
    Tender system has replaced the “Nomination System” in Khyber Agency for the last few years to ensure the standardized and timely completion of small and big projects in Khyber Agency. But the privileged class of the “Maliks” has been creating problems to make the Tender System a failure for meeting their vested interests rather than serving the public rightly. Shah Hussain Shinwari, a leader of Awami National Party “ANP” has flayed the negative role of the Privileged Class of Maliks for persuading and pressurizing the Political Administration of Khyber Agency to abolish the newly introduced Tender System which, he said was purely in their own interests. ANP leader said that through tender system projects could be completed as per the government rules. He added that through Nomination System the Maliks would have to sell the projects as usual on to other people for the kickbacks and commissions. Shah Hussain Shinwari said that nomination system for development schemes was a source of corruption in which the Maliks were enjoying the full support of the political administration. Tender System is god for check and balance. He said that the dilapidated road from Peshawar to Torkham was a proof of Nomination System. People can raise objections against the standard of a scheme under Tender System, opined Shinwari.
    An elder Ashraf Khan said that Maliks and officials were bent upon exploitation of the poor tribesmen under the garb of Nomination System. He while opposing the revival of Nomination System in Khyber Agency said that the poor standard of the schemes and projects in FATA was caused by Nomination System in which the officers and the tribal Maliks (Elders) get heavy bribes. He also disclosed that the so-called Maliks also get commissions and kickbacks in the schemes, which are constructed in the lands of the other people. He said that Tender System was in the best interests of the poor tribesmen, which should never be abolished. A specific Class of privileged people should not utilize the projects and development schemes. Ever body can take a project in the auction under tender system, said Ashraf Khan. The maliks are opposing this system to protect their vested interestsm, alleged Ashraf Khan.
    The tribal Maliks (Elders) of Khyber Agency have made it clear to the Political Agent on many occasions that they would not support any project to be started in their respective areas if carried out under Tender System. They think Nomination System to be the best one which can be utilized by the landowners. The tribal people can properly supervise any scheme and project if they get any benefits from that, said Malik Abdul Haleem Zakha Khel.he has made it crystal clear that he would not allow any other person to start any scheme in his lands. Malik Nadir Shah Zakha Khel has also more than once demanded PA Khyber to abolish the tender system.
    Officials of C&W and ADRD in Khyber Agency have also supported the Nomination System to be the best one which in their views could be utilized by the tribesmen. Local labour and material could also be utilized in Nomination System, claimed the officials of C&W and ADRD.AR Khyber Riaz Khan told that any project under one billion comes under nomination system whereas projects costing more than one billions comes under the Tender System as per rules and policy of the government. He also favoured nomination system by saying that local contractors are safe while going to far off areas for supervion of any scheme or project. Any tribal person deserves tribal commission if his lands get lost for a project. However, he said government would ensure proper completion of any project as per government rules and regulations in both cases. In Tender system the outsiders are used as labour and that the project is sold to another person for commission, said AD Khyber. It was also revealed by an official that many projects and development schemes were pending in Khyber Agency to be yet started due to the controversy of Tender and Nomination system. PA Khyber Tarqi Hayat once in a Jirga ordered to abolish the tender system, but later on he could not give a practical shape to his order. The privileged class of the Maliks supports the Nomination System whereas the common tribesmen favour the Tender System in Khyber Agency.

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  24. Sudhir Afridi says:

    Government higher girls secondary school Landikotal needs attention. This school was built as primary in 1964,upgraded as middle in 1969, turned high in 1975 and last upgraded to higher secondary level in 2003.Landikotal girls higher secondary school is the only institution of this category which is not enough for the education of a population which is more than one million.
    There are 958 girls students who are registered whereas the unregistered girls students are 120.There is a serious lack of teaching staff, which could not be provided despite demands from the public and continuous reporting on this issue. The vacancy of the principal, one SET teacher, CT teacher, Laborary assistant, theology teacher, PTC teachers for primary level, Arabic teacher are yet to be filled at the earliest. There are six subject specialists out of ten. There is also a dearth of science teachers for the high and secondary level due to which the tribal girls students have been devoid to learn from the concerned subject specialist teachers. The computers lab has been closed, as there is no IT teacher to teach the girls how to use computers, reavled internal sources. Most of the time talented male teachers are called from the government high school Landikotal to teach the girls which has always been objectionable with the tribesmen of the area who don’t like any male teacher to teach their daughters, told sources.
    The outgoing in charge Principal of the government higher secondary school Landikotal Madam Shamim Akhtar in a special chatting with this correspondent told that all the problems and deficiencies in the institute have been brought into the notice of the higher authorities time and again. She regretted that in this only high-level institute for the tribal girls at Landikotal there the concerned departments could not solve the basic problems such as potable water and electricity. She said that due to lack of water in the school, they could not mostly allow the girls students to use latrines. Madam Shamim Akhtar confessed that most of the problems highlighted by the parents were genuine, but she rejected that the teaching staff was habitual to punish the girls severly. She explained that students are slightly punished if they come without school uniform. Madam Shamim Akhatr told that the students were the center of the school and a beauty of the school, that is why she said that teachers should love their students. Iam proud of my duty here, observed the Madam.Iam punctual and regular, told the In charge principal. She told that there was an average strength of 50% in each class. The teaching staff is not sufficient for such a large strength, said Madam. She also blamed that female staff was not interested to teach the girls students enthusiastically and with dedication.

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  25. kotzabasi says:

    Krauthammer in his latest article on The Washington Post hit the nail on its head on the issue of the November 4 election. Indeed, and I’m paraphrasing, the crucial issue for Americans on November 4 will be to identify the lion-hearted and the lamb-hearted. If lacking the will or cognitive ability to make this identification and vote– out of irrational hate for Bush-Cheney and the Republicans as a result of their lack of understanding of the immeasurably intricate strategic situation that the Bush administration was placed in the aftermath of 9/11 and the ‘razor-edge’ difficult decisions it had to take to protect America from the deadliest of foes- for the “lamb” Obama, then America like sheep will be taken to the ‘slaughterhouse’.
    And there will be no shortage of intellectual shepherds—one of them will be Steve Clemons holding almost the longest staff in his hand—to lead it to the abattoir. And ironically their arch enemy fanatical Islam will be licking its chops.

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  26. Sage says:

    “I, like Joe, am not someone who
    believes people need to except congestion and delays.”
    You do if you don’t provide funding to maintain your infrastructure.

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  27. thomas Frank says:

    Is There an emergency behind Joe’s 911 call? Its obvious to me
    Joe is calling for some authority to address the problem of
    congestion and delay. Unfortunately, his phone call will be
    logged in as a consequence of the campaign. Outside of the
    politics, it brings up the issue of the use of our transportation
    system and roads as a service, and treated as such by Joe. This
    becomes more front and center in a era of privatized roads, cell
    phones, and personal communication devices.
    Regardless of the various city, county, state and federal
    authorities authorities that govern roads, they are a continuous
    service, and is viewed that way by most users. The question is,
    when driving on any road, who do you call to complain about
    that service or inform an authority about a developing problem
    (non-emergency) that degrades that service?
    Some regions of the country have been more successful than
    others at managing land use pattern, density and transportation
    systems to limit congestion. I, like Joe, am not someone who
    believes people need to except congestion and delays.

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  28. ... says:

    questions – regarding your question, here is a comment from someone on emptywheel named Citizen92
    What you’re looking at is a manifestation of the slimy, slithery and ratfuckingly dirty organiation known as the College Republican National Committee.
    They’re up to old tricks, and Ashley is one of their footsoldiers, fighting their fight.
    I think it’s really important to put the pieces together. The CRNC is running a field program using about 50-60 paid students. They are paid $3,600. They advertised it on their website in March 2008:
    The CRNC Field Program is considered by many College Republicans to be the backbone of the organization because it is intended to assist federations in achieving their purpose: electing Republican candidates.
    The CRNC reports that they still plan on hiring between 45 and 60 field reps depending on the caliber of the applicants.
    They would like to hire 60, however, the CRNC will not “dilute the pool [of field reps] by hiring people who are not qualified…”
    To help ensure that 60 field reps are hired, the CRNC made the following video featuring field director, Will Croswell (use the link)
    That’s where Ashley turned up. On the CRNC’s twitter website. The CRNC’s website called “Life In The Field” – a self described group blog starring the 50 College Republican field representatives as they work across America to win the youth vote. Ashley’s profile has disappered from “Life in the Field.” That website also links to Flickr, YouTube and other profiles that also showcase these 50 operatives work.
    So what can we conclude? We can conclude that Ashley was one of these paid field reps. An employee of the College Republicans. An official.
    Not an “overzealous volunteer.” Yes, technically she was a “volunteer” for the McCain campaign, but she was bought-and-paid for Party help. Kinda like Blackwater.
    Not convinced? Look at Ashley’s YouTube website – http://www.youtube.com/user/crncny
    Guess what? She’s CRNCNY – the College Republicans National Committee New York (representative).
    Then see who links to her site. We’ve got youtube.com/user/crncNM… and crncIL. In other words, all the 50 states.
    Browse around their youtube profiles. See how they are getting out the youth vote. And see how they are turning up at Obama and Biden campaign events and ratfucking.
    It’s all there on video.
    The CRNC has a shady past. Jack Abramoff headed the group in the 80’s. And, to this day, they’re still shaking down the elderly with misleading fundraising mailings.>

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  29. bangzoom14 says:

    Hey that’s what McCain gets from invoking the name ‘Joe’ so many times. So now they have his own brother causing embarrasment added to an already awful campaign. Not to mention Sarah Palin. And speaking of her, I got a chance to read the story in The New Yorker online about how she got pushed by the far right to get the vp nod. Very interesting reading.

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  30. Paul Norheim says:

    I can`t see why they would even want to steal the election. The
    sad facts are that Obama is not demanding or suggesting
    impeachment, and his foreign policy views – re. Iraq,
    Afghanistan, Pakistan, and Israel/Palestinians – do not seem to
    differ more from the current views of George Bush then he and
    his folks can comfortably tolerate. Cheney may get a bit
    irritated, but I guess that`s it.
    And strategically, it would be wiser for the GOP to spend the
    next four years trying to consolidate their party and let Obama
    deal with the mess they`ve created domestically and abroad,
    instead of taking the risk of letting McCain & Palin deal with it.
    Despite the branding of Obama as a “socialist”, I would guess
    that the White House may even trust him to deal better with the
    crisis (with capitalists like Buffett and Volker as advisors) than
    the more and more erratic McCain (not to speak of the Palin).
    But yeah, perhaps I`m naive here. Or perhaps the Right Wing
    Nuts and neocons have such power and determination that
    they`ll do anything? We`ll see…

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  31. daCascadian says:

    Let us remember these people are very much like trapped animals. They are VERY dangerous so we need to take precautions and all due care when dealing with them.
    Seriously folks, let us not get ahead of our selves. Plenty of time to celebrate after November 4th.
    “When I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child: but when I became a man, I put away childish things.” – I Corinthians 13:11

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  32. PissedOffAmerican says:

    This election can still be stolen by these criminals, Norheim. And it probably will be.

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  33. Paul Norheim says:

    I`ve been wondering if Osama bin Laden would show up on a
    video one of these days. Until a couple of months ago, I
    thought that such a stunt would make more people vote for
    McCain, thinking that he is the tough guy – the way Bush
    profited on a bin Laden video in 2004.
    Given McCain`erratic behaviour and lack of strategy, especially
    evident during the financial meltdown, I`m beginning to think
    that Barrack Obama is the one who would win most votes if bin
    Laden or his deputy shows up attacking one or both candidates.
    Even if a serious political crisis occurred – or a big scale
    terrorist attack, abroad or in America, just before the election –
    it may make more people vote for Obama than for McCain.
    Say: McCain, and people will think: Hockey Mom, Joe the
    Plumber, Ashley Todd, Joe the McCain etc. etc. Circus stuff.
    Entertainment. McCain is no longer the guy you would trust in a
    time of crisis. During the financial crisis, most people have
    discovered that he`s not as rock solid as they thought. During
    the meltdown of the financial system, they also saw the
    meltdown of the GOP candidate on TV.
    Obama has to do something extraordinary stupid to loose this
    election. And he won`t. (
    But I`m sure a desperate McCain will make an even bigger fool
    of himself in the coming days – and ESPECIALLY if bin Laden
    shows up on a video tape.

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  34. carsick says:

    Guess it’s not the best time for Meghan to tell him about the little fender-bender. Or for his cell phone not to work out at the ranch.

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  35. JohnH says:

    The revenge of Joe the McCain! Cool!
    Like his brother, Joe seems to have a sense of entitlement, of being above the law. He must be a Republican.

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  36. questions says:

    It occurs to me, re Ashley Todd — was she put up to this so that the Repubs could also have an Ashley story? (Remember during the primary, that line, “I’m voting for Obama because of Ashley”?)
    EVERYthing they do seems so derivative, so pathetic, and so wreckless…. Do they think of anything aside from themseves?

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  37. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Dementia is hereditary, isn’t it?

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  38. Bill R. says:

    What else can go wrong? How about the McCain campaign pushing a hoax story about a woman reportedly getting mutilated by a “big, black” Obama supporter, when it turns out she did it herself and lied to the police.

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