Guest Note by Al Jazeera’s Riz Khan: From the UNGA — “SAVING FACE!”

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Riz Khan.jpg(Riz Khan anchors the Riz Khan Show on Al Jazeera English. This “Note” is part of a series of posts that personalities from Al Jazeera covering the international events in New York and Pittsburgh will be sharing with readers of The Washington Note).
My face saved me.
For once I was grateful. It was quite simple really. I wanted to cross 2nd Avenue to get to the United Nations Headquarters so I could collect my U.N. media pass for the UN General Assembly (UNGA!!) meetings taking place all week.
Security here has been VERY high – far more than previous years, from what I could tell – to the point that it extended one block further than usual into Manhattan. I faced one of those almost comical Catch 22 situations where I couldn’t cross the security barrier because I didn’t have a pass… and I couldn’t get the pass until I was on the other side of the security barrier!
That’s when my face saved me.
From what I could tell, the security guy in the light blue outfit was Swiss. A good sign. At least he was “neutral” in his attitude to me. I had done the usual British equivalent of protesting with Mr. U.N. Security – which largely consisted of asking politely what alternatives I had, and nodding in acquiescence when told there were no real alternatives. Fortunately, the Swiss and Brits share some commonality when it comes to not making a fuss, so when another person – with a valid pass – witnessed what was happening to me, they said to the guard, “He’s Riz Khan – don’t you know him?!”
(I would like to categorically point out that never in my life, have I ever said, “Do you know who I am?” to anyone!)
The guard didn’t seem too phased by the information, but was then at least willing to hear me out a bit more – and then allow me to pass, having established that I was not a threat to security, courtesy of Mr. Valid Pass.
The guard even wished me good luck. I love the Swiss!
I should point out that I had originally tried to get my U.N. pass the evening before – prior to 2nd Avenue being closed off – but balked at the 2-hour-long line at the Media Accreditation tent. I was in no mood to spend two hours in a long line at the end of a long day, having just interviewed the new NATO Secretary-General on my show for Al Jazeera English (which had some great participation from our viewers around the world who sent in questions and called in live during the show).
Pass issues aside, the UNGA week in NY is actually a lot of fun. There’s a buzz in the air. The world is in town – pretty much every world leader, at least… and even the cordoned-off streets, and constant blaring of police sirens create an atmosphere of something special happening in town.
The storylines this week will be plentiful. From Obama’s Israel-Palestine meeting, to Gaddafi’s first ever visit to the US, to the top heads of state sitting down together to tackle climate change, I can only hope that Americans will be fully engaged in the debates and events as they happen this week.
For some reporters, the UNGA is a highlight of their journalistic year – travelling in from some far-flung place to be among the journalistic glitterati, political personae, and somewhat eclectic New Yorkers.
During this week, the streets around the U.N. HQ are filled with an even greater interesting mix of international faces, limos with blacked-out windows, and burly, dark-sunglasses-wearing, cropped-haired security guards with grim expressions.
Looking at them, I don’t feel my face could save me.
Thank goodness for the Swiss!
— Riz Khan

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32 comments on “Guest Note by Al Jazeera’s Riz Khan: From the UNGA — “SAVING FACE!”

  1. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “the question is were they all born with UZIs clenched in their tiny little hands? It’s a common Israeli birth defect”
    Really?
    Gee, and here all this time I thought the most common Israeli birth defect was the word “victim” permanently etched on their psyche.

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  2. Outraged American says:

    I knew it! Questions the 47-year-old virgin/ hermaphrodite and
    POA are having internet sex, as evidenced by their pillow talk.
    Hey Questions, if you really are a virgin, or even if you’re not,
    my husband is tired of me sleep-talking about Israel testing out
    diabolical new weapons in the Gaza Strip, so needs a New
    Opening, if you catch my drift.
    He’s a Member and has a member, so you two would do just fine
    once you get used to his rough trade. You could move to East
    Jerusalem and be fruitful and multiply.
    This one is for Nadine. To ally her fears that intermarriage with
    gorgeous shiksas will single handedly take down The Jewish
    State. Which it will.
    Jewish Israeli woman had 1400 descendants
    (the question is were they all born with UZIs clenched in their
    tiny little hands? It’s a common Israeli birth defect)
    http://tinyurl.com/luurh2

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  3. questionsio says:

    Nighty night, POA. Have some nice paranoid dreams!

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  4. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Yaaaaawn.

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  5. questinos says:

    I have comfortably posted under so many many many names. Why I’ve used “questions”, “questinos” and maybe even “questisno”!!! It’s all a disguise. I’m impressed you’ve seen through it, though. I probably fooled even myself!
    From where I sit, knowing myself as only I do, POA, you are off the deep end. Really really off the deep end. Shockingly wrong, in fact.
    Right up there with the disappearing Free Gaza website and the too many Chertoffs thing. Right up there with insisting that WigWag, Sweetness and I are all the same person.
    But go ahead and make the case to Steve. See if you can have him ban me for breaking nettiquette by posting under many names and with false pretenses. Prove that no one could genuinely believe a damned thing I’ve ever written. Go fer it!!
    You live, breathe, eat and sleep conspiracy theory. You take nothing at face value except, it would seem, the worth of Ron Paul, who in my view is really off base. The paranoia is really a marvel.
    I am a regular person who thinks: 9/11 was a fuck up of epic proportions, Plato is utterly worth reading because his insights into human psychology and politics and behavior and desire and tyranny and wealth and music and literature and death and life and justice and mobs are beautiful, brilliant, aware of their own limitations, and they shine light on everything we do in the world. And Kant is worth reading because of his clarity of moral vision, as impossible to reach as it is.
    I think Israel is a fucked up society that needs to improve from inside. Probably Afghanistan does as well, but I feel a pretty deep sense of American responsibility for the damage we’ve done there and I don’t at all know how to balance damage against damage. I find the situation of the Palestinians beyond horrific and I don’t know what to do about it.
    I like xkcd. I read a lot. I like Shostakovich’s opus 87. Norma Winstone is lovely and I’m happy to have gotten hooked on her. I don’t like paranoid conspiracy theories. I think Rawls so totally trashed libertarianism that there’s nothing left to defend of it.
    I think Sibel Edmonds may have found stuff she doesn’t understand. I don’t really think the Schakowsky stuff makes sense and so I don’t think anything else she claims holds water either.
    I think health care reform needs to pass and should be done with a robust public option. I actually think the public option is the incrementalist thing to do, and I am more and more a policy incrementalist as my 47 years of virginity stretches out. (Thanks, OA, for that! I will treasure it forever!)
    I think that the scholarship on Congress is more accurate than the journalism on Congress. I think Nate Silver is a fucking genius. I love Congress Matters dot com. Procedure is amazing stuff!!! I wish I had studied game theory and statistics. My life would be better at this point had I done so. I think Zathras’s posts here are a marvel of clarity and awareness of governing from the inside and add something really important. I hope Zathras continues to post frequently, and I might even try to watch Babylon 5 in Zathras’s honor. (Unless the name comes from some other source!)
    From all of this, which I’ve posted on fairly consistently over the last year plus or two years, you have deduced that I work for the government of Israel and I write under multiple names on this blog. WOW. You sly sleuth you!
    And that is the story of my “tasked agenda.”

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  6. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “let’s not get into name-calling. enjoy the debate — but name-calling is out of line. best, steve”
    Its not “name-calling”, its “species identification”.
    “And POA, I have no idea how many lobbies work together. I would venture that defense lobbyists and AIPAC lobbyists all want the same thing sometimes and they might very well cooperate. So maybe Turkey and Israel want the same thing and they cooperate”
    Than your sarcasm in regards to this…
    “Note, by the way that the Israel LOBBY is now the IsrTurk Lobby. How many more countries shall we toss in the stew?”
    ….is what, just insincerely argumentative on your part; Argument just for the sake of argument? Gee, who coulda guessed?
    “Steve suggested the possibility of a very different reading of the whole situation. Maybe he’s got something?”
    Steve also said he would revisit this issue if it changed traction, or fresh information became available. Maybe he’s avoiding it for a reason beyond skepticism. Who the hell knows? But your “Maybe he’s onto something” kinda sounds like one of those conspiracy theories to me.
    “How much responsibility do I have to deny over and over again to POA the hasbara charge. At some point either he believes or he doesn’t”
    Well, obviously, I don’t believe you. Your efforts and arguments here are too focused in intent. I won’t confide to this blog how I know it, but I do for a fact know that posters can comfortably post under two monickers here without risking exposure. And no, I have never done that, nor would I. But yes, you’re correct, questions, I don’t believe you, or trust you. Time has only strengthened my opinion that your posting has a tasked agenda.

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  7. Outraged American says:

    Again Questions attempts to conflate the true nutters, the
    “birthers” with experts who have QUESTIONS about the official
    narrative of September 11.
    Oldest trick in the book Questions, and if you are indeed a “policy
    maker” I would suggest that you’d be better at the oldest
    profession in the world instead.
    Run for Congress, you’ll fit right in.

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  8. questions says:

    Yes, but….
    How much responsibility do I have to deny over and over again to POA the hasbara charge. At some point either he believes or he doesn’t. He could “ask some very specific questions” of me. But do I have to respond after I have denied it?
    So, really, what does Schakowsky owe? What has Edmonds’s level of inaccuracy merited, if indeed it’s all inaccurate? How could the staff lie about a public fact like a death date?
    Steve suggested the possibility of a very different reading of the whole situation. Maybe he’s got something?
    I’m a late adopter when it comes to conspiracy. And it’s nowhere near late enough on this one, and already the “facts” are off-kilter. Makes one wonder.

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  9. Dan Kervick says:

    Edmonds responded to Schakowsky’s denials with some very specific questions, which her office has declined to answer.

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  10. questiosn says:

    From Bradblog and POA:
    “A google news search still does not bring up the Giraldi interview @ American Conservatrive. Interesting.
    At TWN, a long time poster I have always suspected of being a hasbarist is trying to shove this story into the realm of the “birthers” and “truthers”, much like Kincaid is attempting.
    I sincerely hope that care is taken, while trying to get this story into the public eye, to avoid attaching it to other issues that may aid those such as Kincaid in shoving it into the fringe world of the tinfoil hat crowd. ”
    Why POA, I’m impressed that I’ve made such an impression on you — if indeed you’re referring to me!!!!!!
    And then some other poster goes into the very clear differences between birthers and truthers! Read Cockburn on this one!

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  11. Dan Kervick says:

    “If the Turks wanted something from Schakowsky’s husband, why set up a lesbian tryst given that her district wouldn’t give a damn most likely? Wouldn’t Schakowsky’s husband have needed to be in on it? So where’s the blackmail or the potential blackmail that never happened….”
    I’m not understand these questions. But putting people in compromising sexual situations is one of the oldest and easiest blackmail techniques in the world. And most likely cheaper than a large cash payoff.
    Since we have no idea what it was the Turks might have wanted in Illinois, we don’t know whether the blackmail ever did occur. We also don’t know whether the threat would have been to release the information to her husband, or to the public. Her husband wouldn’t have had to be in on it; the idea might have been to get her to press her husband to do something without explaining to him why she was pressing him.
    But I would guess that intelligence agencies sometimes just build up of potentially useful assets that they may or may not exploit in the future. They might never have asked her to do anything for them. Frankly, I suspect that these Edmonds charges are just the tip of the iceberg, where we have one person testifying to what she knows about a few people and a few countries. But surely countries around the world are involved in various intrigues aimed at influencing the behavior of government officials in a powerful country like the US.
    And are you saying that the charges are *less* plausible because Ryan was some special level of “fool”?

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  12. questions says:

    To clarify — that’s a statement from the Schakowsky campaign, NOT from the Bradblog editors.

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  13. questions says:

    From Bradblog, but a little further down the page…
    “”The American Conservative’s most recent hit piece against Congresswoman Schakowsky is complete fantasy; cut from the same cloth as the stories by “birthers” that President Obama is not an American citizen. The source of this story subscribes to the bizarre conspiracy theory that elements of the United States government were involved in the 9/11 attacks.
    A simple review of the facts would lead any responsible person to conclude that there is not a shred of truth to any aspect of this story.
    It would be just as accurate to say the Congresswoman was kidnapped by little green men and carried in a space ship to the planet Xenon.
    From the start, the fantasy is riddled with factual errors. It claims that an “intimate” relationship between a fictional female Turkish spy and the congresswoman began at the funeral of the congresswoman’s mother after 2000, however, Rep. Schakowsky’s mother died thirteen years earlier in 1987.
    Furthermore, it is alleged that the “relationship” occurred in the congresswoman’s bugged town house even though she has never owned or lived in a town house in her life. Congresswoman Schakowsky shares a small apartment with her husband in a busy Washington, DC apartment building and owns a single-family home in Illinois.
    In fact not one of the events in this fantastic tale ever took place.
    Had The American Conservative, (which was founded by Pat Buchanan) adhered to normal journalistic standards it would have fact checked the story and contacted our office. Its goal was not apparently good journalism, but to fabricate one more story line for the right wing smear machine and conspiracy theorists everywhere.””
    ******
    Who knows if this proves anything. Maybe Edmonds mistranslated “townhouse” and “1987”, maybe not.
    And POA, I have no idea how many lobbies work together. I would venture that defense lobbyists and AIPAC lobbyists all want the same thing sometimes and they might very well cooperate. So maybe Turkey and Israel want the same thing and they cooperate. I’m sure there’s spying all over the place. I’ve said as much before as I have expressed less than outrage that there’s spying all over the place. Everyone spies. Somehow, I can’t get myself to freak out. And Edmonds just sounds overmuch to me. But what’s death date or a townhouse between lovers?
    ****
    Aristotle asks us to know our tendencies and correct for them. If I’m undersuspicious, you’re certainly oversuspicious……
    ******
    And this little side story matters deeply not because it’s salacious, but because it calls into question the rest of the allegations.

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  14. Steve Clemons says:

    let’s not get into name-calling. enjoy the debate — but name-calling is out of line. best, steve

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  15. PissedOffAmerican says:

    So out with it, jackass. Are you denying there is cooperation between the Turkish and Israeli lobbies?

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  16. questions says:

    Red flags, false flags, it’s all the same. I’m here to make everyone be, umm, faithful to the government no matter what and love, umm, one of the parties more than the other, and, umm, something about health care. And I don’t want anyone ever to think again! And I really want the government of Isrturk to triumph over AMERICA!
    I certainly couldn’t harbor any kind of reasonable doubt for to doubt Edmonds is to doubt, umm, AMERICA.

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  17. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Upthread, I express some regrets that Schakowsky’s sex life is being aired, when really, there are far greater concerns raised by Sibel. However, knowing how sleazy and slimey American media has become, perhaps a sex scandal is EXACLY what’s needed to bring Sibel’s accusations out into the open. I imagine, everyone involved, as far as those named by Sibel, regret Schakowsky’s denial, and wish she would have just ignored the American Conservative interview, as they are obviously doing so far. At this point, I hope Schakowsky raises a giant stink.
    For those of you that think I am “on the fringe” and prefer Dan Kervick’s usually emotionally stoic kind of “smart analysis”, I suggest you ask yourself what Dan sees in this story that makes it credible to him. Whether you rely on intuition and common sense, or a more analytical nanner of examining evidence, Sibel’s story is unavoidably damning to Washington, if only because of the great lengths that have been gone to to keep Sibel’s allegations out of the public’s ear.
    And “questions” efforts to push this into the realm of the “birthers” and the “truthers” certainly does not do anything to lower the red flags I have about “questions” underlying loyalties, motives, and honesty.

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  18. samuelburke says:

    Rep. Jan Schakowsky (D-IL)’s office has vehemently denied
    serious allegations published by The American Conservative
    magazine on Tuesday, in which FBI translator-turned-
    whistleblower Sibel Edmonds names the Congresswoman as
    having participated in a lesbian affair with a Turkish agent, and
    being secretly video-taped for possible blackmail purposes
    while doing so.
    Edmonds has responded with specific points in her own rebuttal
    to the Schakowsky response, and has included a number of
    direct questions for the Congresswoman in return. She also
    states that she is “willing to take [a] public polygraph … on these
    points if she accepts doing the same.” The BRAD BLOG has
    shared that rebuttal with Kincaid, and the office has responded
    to that as well, though they failed to directly answer the
    questions posed by Edmonds, or accept the challenge to a
    polygraph test
    here is Giraldi’s response to the statement from Kincaid:
    We have already heard from the congresswoman’s office and will
    probably let her rebut “factual errors” but will not get into a
    series of exchanges with her, though that is a decision that the
    magazine will make, not me. It was an interview not an article
    and while we made a clear case that we consider Sibel credible
    we were not able to factcheck all the names and issues she
    presented us with though we did check dates and other easily
    verifiable material. I am not even sure how one would check a
    death date in the state of Illinois for someone whose maiden
    name one does not know and as for the townhouse, property
    records have to be searched in a local court house, as I recall. I
    cannot address the reliability of the information being provided
    by the congresswoman and would not even want to attempt to
    do so.
    here is sibels response to the congresswoman…
    In her response, the former FBI translator speaks to the fact
    issues raised in the rebuttal from Schakowsky’s office, and
    includes some direct questions of her own to the
    Congresswoman in return [emphasis in original]:
    Here is my ‘on the record’ response:
    I am, and have been, reporting intercepted communication of
    targeted operatives; more or less verbatim.
    1) This particular operation(s) was based in IL; not DC.
    The timeline covered 1996-2002 (January).
    The targeted townhouse in question was in IL. The operatives
    discussed their plans to bug the townhouse in detail. Is this a
    townhouse she owned/owns? I don’t know. Did it belong to the
    female operative? I don’t know. Did the set up take place? Yes;
    confirmed by the FBI surveillance team; Chicago-Field Office.
    2) The female operative in question was to accompany Mrs.
    Schakowsky to the funeral for ‘the mother’ and stay with her
    afterwards.
    3) What the targets wanted from Mrs. Schakowsky had to do with
    their operations in IL. Her husband’s role was important in that
    operation.
    Now, to make it fair ask Mrs. Schakowsky the following:
    1- Do you deny having sexual relationship with a Turkish
    woman between late 1990s and early 2001?
    2- Do you deny having communication with her (Turkish
    operative) ‘front’ office in Chicago, TACA [Turkish American
    Cultural Alliance]? (Because the records would prove direct
    communication).
    And finally, most importantly: if she denies: I am willing to take
    public polygraph (independent polygraph service) on these
    points if she accepts doing the same.
    Best,
    Sibel
    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7429#more-7429

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  19. questions says:

    Ryan was a fool and a recent cautionary tale.
    If the Turks wanted something from Schakowsky’s husband, why set up a lesbian tryst given that her district wouldn’t give a damn most likely? Wouldn’t Schakowsky’s husband have needed to be in on it? So where’s the blackmail or the potential blackmail that never happened….
    I find it crazy because it seems to me, as with the Truther stuff, that there are easier and less crazy ways for people to get what they want than by setting up trysts with cameras or faking planes or blowing up really big buildings…. I tend to think people go the path of least resistance with the fewest places for backfire.
    Corruption I believe, for sure. There’s lots of corruption. There’s money trading, vote trading, job trading, weapons and drug trading. The arms for hostages thing happened. Certainly. But some things sound crazy to me. And thus far, Edmonds’s allegations sound crazy.
    But since POA is usually right, so he says, perhaps I’m totally off the mark in my (limited) reading of this stuff.
    I will fess up that I don’t spend a lot of time on conspiracy stuff, and maybe this has all the hallmarks of a really good one. I have my doubts, though.

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  20. Dan Kervick says:

    questions, I really don’t understand why you find the allegations so incredible. In Chicagoland, politicians have been running for office for years even while mountains of incriminating evidence of actual corruption has been in the possession of various people all around them. They keep running while fighting off all the things that could derail them. Politicians are frequently running from something, hiding from something, stonewalling something or covering something up. They often just keep going – until the can’t anymore.
    In 2004, Illinois’s Jack Ryan ran for the Senate even though he knew that hugely embarrassing court records existed about the sexual demands he placed on his ex-wife Jeri Ryan, records that would likely kill his candidacy if revealed. He ran anyway.
    There is no allegation that Schakowsky is “on the verge” of being blackmailed. Whatever happened, its entirely possible that the Turkish agents long ago received whatever consideration they were looking for, and so Schakowsky thinks the business has been successfully buried.
    You say,
    “And why go through something as elaborate as the seduction at the mother’s funeral, the hotel, the cameras…for a tape that didn’t get used? And all of this for, what, the Turk/Armenian genocide vote? Seriously? Or is there some pipeline deal I missed somewhere?”
    We don’t know that the tape wasn’t used to achieve its intended effect. The allegation is that what the agents wanted is something in Illinois, not DC, and that it involved Schakowsky’s husband, Robert Creamer, who was head of the Illinois Public Action Fund.

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  21. samuelburke says:

    Phil Giraldi is interviewd by Scott Horton of antiwar…also in the
    interviewed is Joe Lauria who published the Sibel Edmonds
    interview in London.
    http://antiwar.com/radio/2009/09/22/philip-giraldi-joe-
    lauria/

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  22. questions says:

    And by the way, if the affair didn’t happen, then the Turkish government isn’t entrapping a US congresswoman. The affair stands in for the whole adventure and is absurd enough on its face that it’s a reasonable way in to wondering what the deal is with Edmonds.
    And why go through something as elaborate as the seduction at the mother’s funeral, the hotel, the cameras…for a tape that didn’t get used? And all of this for, what, the Turk/Armenian genocide vote? Seriously? Or is there some pipeline deal I missed somewhere?
    And what would be the point of this with Schakowsky anyway? Her husband did prison time so it’s not like he could complain about an affair, she’s in a super liberal district that probably doesn’t give a damn about bisexuality, what kind of hold could there be? ZOMG.

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  23. questions says:

    POA, I know the line you cite above.
    The point is that the whole thing is a little crazy. If you’re saying that Schakowsky had no idea the tape was made at all (IF it was made) then why did the Turkish government bother to do this? And remember, you insinuated (stated even) above that Schakowsky may well have performed an easy task already.
    And if Schakowsky’s office does provide my point as evidence of innocence then it proves one of the following: She reads me the way the AIPAC website editor reads you, I make a certain amount of logical sense and so what I come up with others are capable of thinking up as well (not a chance!!), I work for AIPACSCHAKOWSLYISRAELTURKEY (most likely), I just make shit up all the time and so does everyone else.
    Note, by the way that the Israel LOBBY is now the IsrTurk Lobby. How many more countries shall we toss in the stew?
    I don’t argue for argument’s sake. I argue when I think something is on the crazy side. And the level of charges I’ve read by Edmonds (and I will say, this one is new to me the same way the Truther stuff is new to me — whole new worlds open up to me every time I click on TWN!) — the level of charges seems a little beyond what even cynical moi thinks is likely.
    Bribes, spying, payoffs of all sorts, http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2009/9/22/785157/-This-dont-look-too-good-for-Mike-Ross — these are things I could believe without any effort at all. Even a fairly wide post 9/11 attempt to cover up governmental stupidity I could believe. I’m pretty sure the planes hit, and I’m pretty sure that pre-9/11 KNOWING isn’t the same as post 9/11 KNOWING.
    But Sibel Edmonds seems to me, in my limited appetite for governmental conspiracies, to be heading towards Orly Taitz-land. Maybe not all the way there, but on the train and leaving the station.
    And please remember that all the passion you’re dumping into this one is echoed by Taitz and the the birthers in general. Passion isn’t enough to make it so.
    Of course I can’t cite Steve’s response to the whole thing as suggestive since more likely he’s concerned about consequences should he pursue the TRUTH…. (And this point is proven by his NOT deleting your comments (??)) But it does occur to me, at any rate. And since I’m not up on this stuff, I might even trust this response to be telling at some level….

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  24. Dan Kervick says:

    I just emailed my Congressman, Paul Hodes, about the Sibel Edmonds case, and wrote a companion letter to the Concord Monitor. Letter to Hodes:
    Dear Representative Hodes,
    I am very alarmed about the recent revelations that have come to public light in the Sibel Edmonds case. I am sure you will agree that taking bribes and receiving favors from foreign governments seeking to influence decisions on vital matters of US national security constitutes the gravest possible breach of the public trust. If these allegations are true, and we now have very plausible evidence that they are, then they merit the highest possible level of public concern, and urgent congressional investigation and action.
    I know that you serve on the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, which, according to the committee’s website, “is the main investigative committee in the U.S. House of Representatives” and “has jurisdiction to investigate any federal program and any matter with federal policy implications.” Surely these allegations fall under the committee’s jurisdiction. I expect to see some action.
    If you need more information on the allegations, please refer to this story:
    http://www.amconmag.com/article/2009/nov/01/00006/
    Yours,
    Dan Kervick

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  25. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Questions, I have no idea why you continually argue about issues that you don’t know a damned thing about.
    Sibel has stated in the past, and in this recent interview with Giraldi, that she does not know if this tape was ever used against Schakowsky, in fact, she is not even aware of whether or not Schakowsky was actually blackmailed. Her asertion is simnply that the trap was set by the Turks, and the tape was made. In fact, the only difference between Sibel’s comments on this prior to the Giraldi interview is that she did not name Schakowsky until this interview.
    Here is her direct quote from the Giraldi interview….
    “I don’t know if Congresswoman Schakowsky ever was actually blackmailed or did anything for the Turkish woman”
    Its interesting that Friedman has recieved a statement from Schakowsky’s office, denying the grist of Sibel’s assertions, which Brad intends to post at the Bradblog shortly. Whats interesting is that you picked this one item of Sibel’s assertions to attempt to discredit when it appears Schakowskym is the first of the accused to offer comment. I will be intrigued to see if her statement contains an argument along the same lines as yours does.
    I suspect, considering her status as a married woman with children, her natural argument will be a denial of the sexual adventure. Which is as it should be, and is natural, whether the “honey trap” occurred or not. Its unfortunate that people will make the affair, (fictional or not), the issue, when the REAL issue is the Turkish intelligence’s act of covert entrapment of a United States’ Congresswoman.
    But its what I’ve come to expect of you, questions. Argument simply for the sake of argument, whether its offered in good faith or not. Its all a big fuckin’ mind game for you, and its despicable. You didn’t even bother to do your homework before you conjured up the above query.

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  26. questions says:

    Wait, I wasn’t supposed to type that last sentence. OH NOES.
    ****
    And really, if the tape exists, how could Schakowsky be certain that it wouldn’t come out? You just have to keep adding epicycles to explain it all….

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  27. questions says:

    Honestly, how much investigation does Orly Taitz’s contention demand?
    How’s that, boss? Did I type it the way you told me to?

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  28. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “So if she’s on the verge of being blackmailed, why would she have tossed her hat into the ring even for a second to take Obama’s seat, which of course she did — more than once?”
    Perhaps what was being asked of her wasn’t that hard to deliver.
    I suspect, questions, you will now mist the debate with a bunch of longwinded horseshit, asking questions that no one has the answers to because the answers have never been sought.
    Have at it, jackass. But bear in mind, the failure to investigate, and the failure to report on such epic accusations is as alarming as the actual accusations are.
    But, just as your ridiculous assertions in regards to AIPAC impotence, any argument against investigating Sibel’s assertions is equally as asinine.
    But it will be interesting to see if your argument appears to be scripted, which will lend even more credibility to Sibel’s sworn testimony and recent assertions.

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  29. questions says:

    Schakowsky’s district:
    District: IL-09
    Location Northern suburbs of Chicago map
    Cook PVI D + 20
    Representative Jan Schakowsky (D)
    VoteView rank 23
    First elected 1998
    2008 margin 75-22 over Michael Younan
    2006 margin 75-25
    2004 margin 76-24
    Obama margin 72-26
    Bush margin 2004 32-68
    Current opponents None confirmed.
    Demographics 35th fewest veterans (8%), 37th most nonWhite, nonLatino, nonBlacks (mostly 12.3% Asians)
    Assessment Safe
    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/7/16/751748/-Congressional-races-2010:-Illinois
    So if she’s on the verge of being blackmailed, why would she have tossed her hat into the ring even for a second to take Obama’s seat, which of course she did — more than once?
    She’s safe at home. Why risk it if there’s video tape of her as Sibel Edmonds seems to indicate?
    +20 dem, 75% winning percentage, no opponents anymore. It’s a good seat. A safe seat. Senate isn’t guaranteed. Why even float a name….
    Enquiring minds want to know!

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  30. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Riz Khan anchors the Riz Khan Show on Al Jazeera English”
    I wonder if Riz knows where the journalists here in the states hid their balls?
    Hey Riz, if you are reading this, can you tell us whether or not Al Jazeera intends to cover the accusations of Sibel Edmonds that were covered in today’s release of the ne American Conservative Magazine?

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  31. lurker says:

    Steve,
    Bravo for hosting Al Jazeera TWN contributors!!

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  32. ... says:

    hi – i am really excited about any type of ”’different”’ news coverage!!!.. at this point al jazeera sounds like a welcome change to what sustitutes for news in the usa, and i am happy steve is allowing this to happen… thanks-

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