Foul on Republicans: Unsportsman Like Behavior

-

This in from a friend:
michael steele.jpg

Theresa Poulson, one of the NJ.com reporters was covering a conservative event here in D.C. today in which Michael Steele, GOP chairman, was the featured speaker.
She was the only reporter there. Steele interrupted his speech to announce that Chicago had lost and Rio had won the 2016 Olympics.
The entire audience erupted in applause and cheers. Then, when Steele announced that Chicago had lost on the first round, the crowd went even wilder, cheering and whooping it up that America had lost the Olympics.
These people are sicko.

This pretty much assures that Chicago, and perhaps Illinois is going to tilt even more Democratic. Bad move Michael.
— Steve Clemons

Comments

39 comments on “Foul on Republicans: Unsportsman Like Behavior

  1. arthurdecco says:

    “…at this point I think the system is rotten to its damned core and only a systemic change, which the American people are NOT even close to being up to, is the only possible solution. Now Arthur if I am wrong on this you should tell me because without hope of some kind I will actively begin emigration proceedings to either #1 ranked Norway, or some country that possesses NO oil, or Iceland, which may be economically imploding due to American contamination of the global econ system, but at least has the brains not to invest in a military. Counting on you Arthur.” JamesL
    JamesL, you’re right. You are Correct. ie: You’re Screwed.
    But HEY! You shouldn’t be counting on my opinion to affect your emigration strategies!
    I’m a pissed-off Canadian with my own dilemmas/windmills in need of engaging/tilting.
    Amerika mystifies me – with its mantra-like worship of contemptuous violence and its cratered hypocritical soul, its gargantuan appetites and shriveled sense of fair play, its dismissive and blame-the-victim treatment of its most vulnerable citizens, its utter boorishness on the foreign stage and its continued public veneration of a gaggle of traitors more venal than anything history has recorded to date.
    And if you think I exaggerate just do the effin’ math!
    Kathleen,
    THAT’S a post! Amen, sistah.

    Reply

  2. Kathleen Grasso Andersen says:

    JamesL, arthurrrr..I think the problem is not with the Left so much as with the way the DNC relates to the Left…which is to say, the Left is always taken for granted by the DNC because it is assumed they have nowhere else to go…technically the Left could go to the Greens or some other third party, but they generally do stay in the fold, holding their nose…I think the Progressives are getting stronger and now that Teddy is no longer pulling all the intra- party strings, people like Howard Dean, Dennis Kucinich and Russ Feingold will have a better chance at getting the party behind populist positions and candidates.
    If all of the Ron Paul Republicans voted Libertarian and all the Nader/Howard Dean/Kucinich/Feingold Demz voted Green, where would that leave the RNC/DNC syndrome? In the dumpster, where they belong…outdated, outmoded, rusty, inflexible, non-functioning…sooo yesterday…

    Reply

  3. arthurdecco says:

    Nadine is a construct, Don S. There’s nothing remotely human about her.

    Reply

  4. DonS says:

    Hey Nadine, what do you have to do to get the kind of “information” you manage to ferret out that proves your “point”, even when the matter in question — and roughly agreed to by ‘rightists’ and ‘leftists’ — is HUMAN DECENCY for God sake.
    If you’re not a paid propagandist you ought to be. What a case.

    Reply

  5. nadine says:

    Wigwag,
    You mean some Republicans might go so far as to produce and give awards to a wish-fulfillment movie showing someone assassinating President Obama?
    Oh wait. Somebody already made that movie and gave it awards. But “Death of a President” (2006) showed the assassination of George W. Bush. There was a play in New York on the same theme. Not to mention dozens of books suggesting that Bush should be turned into political dog food.
    It’s a lot easier not to notice when it originates on your side of the fence.
    So far, I see the anti-Obama vehemence being roused by his proposed health care reforms, just as it was against the Clintons in 1994. It’s only striking because Obama got such a pass all during the campaign. Obama got fawning media coverage with all unfavorable stories spiked.
    The media may have thought they were doing him a favor, but now he has to pay the bill – he & his people don’t know how to handle unfavorable media because they aren’t used to getting any.

    Reply

  6. WigWag says:

    “But I perceive a significant difference in the nature and content of the attacks and threats against Obama than against Bush. And in that I include the vehemence, body language and overt call for physical harm. To me, the tidal wave of ugly hate messages and actions are far different. This may be a natural characteristic of the repub right that has only found it’s most hated target in Obama. I don’t know.” (DonS)
    I actually think you’re right. The most extreme right wing elements are going beyond where the left did during the Bush days; they are certainly going way too far.
    But I do think that it is appropriate to point out that behavior that seems out of bounds to people who control the government apparatus now seemed perfectly acceptable to these same people when the other party was in power.
    Obama is being ridiculed; Bush was ridiculed. The Right is rooting for Obama to fail; the left rooted for Bush to fail. The smallest things Obama does are placed under a microscope by Republicans; the smallest things Bush did were placed under a microscope by Democrats.
    I’m just pointing out that when it comes to “unsportsman like behavior,” their’s plenty to go around.

    Reply

  7. Bart says:

    “…but do they detest President Obama more than left wing Democrats detested President Bush?”
    This is not my favorite kind of pissing contest, but at least Obama was elected and not selected via Scotus coup.

    Reply

  8. DonS says:

    “I am Neither”.

    Reply

  9. DonS says:

    Wigwag, your 4:44 post makes some points about dems being as venal as repubs. I am either. But I perceive a significant different in the nature and content of the attacks and threats against Obama than against Bush. And in that I include the vehemence, body language and overt call for physical harm. To me, the tidal wave of ugly hate messages and actions are far different. This may be a natural characteristic of the repub right that has only found it’s most hated target in Obama. I don’t know.
    I think Steve is right to point out the incredible level to which repubs have gone, even though you counter with arguments that may have salience on the level of the Olympic display. While your example of some wishing the Iraq war to fail in order to validate the [now proven] malfeasant beginning and conduct of the enterprise has some truth, it is small potatoes next to the bloodthirsty virulent right we see today.
    Agreed?
    BTW, “wishing to fail” is a rubric that covers the gamut, including a lost of folks who just want to undo the harm done to Iraq (and America)as quickly as possibly. What’s the parallel with the Olympics? Saving Chicago from the burden of infrastructure creation?

    Reply

  10. questions says:

    http://congressmatters.com/storyonly/2009/10/1/1672/-Must-a-Finance-deadlock-mean-reconciliation
    How Congress works part II.
    Highly recommend routine stops at congressmatters.com. Procedure, procedure, procedure.

    Reply

  11. PissedOffAmerican says:

    By Brad Friedman on 10/4/2009 12:25PM
    VIDEO: ABC’s Diane Sawyer on Sibel Edmonds, FBI Whistleblower, First Amendment ‘Heroine’
    In advance of tomorrow’s related story [Update: That story now posted here], I thought you might appreciate a quick look at the following if you’ve never seen it before. Diane Sawyer narrates the story of FBI translator-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds as she was awarded the 2006 PEN/Newman’s Own First Amendment Award.
    In the bargain, it’s also worth remembering that Sawyer herself is at least aware of Edmonds, who she is, and some of what she’s had to go through, further begging the question of why ABC News has failed to even note — much less investigate and/or cover — the recent revelations of bribery and blackmail of current and former U.S. Congressmembers and high-ranking State and Defense Department officials, and the theft and sale of nuclear secrets by agents of Turkey and Israel, as detailed in her sworn deposition in August, and remarkable AmCon cover-story interview which followed it late last month…
    continues….
    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7448

    Reply

  12. PissedOffAmerican says:

    By Brad Friedman on 10/5/2009 11:18AM
    FBI Veteran Executive Calls For Special Counsel
    Investigation, Prosecutions in Sibel Edmonds Case
    Details panic inside the Bureau, executive effort to ‘keep this whole thing quiet’ when matter first came to light in 2002
    Further confirms FBI translator/whistleblower’s allegations, credibility…
    An 18-year Counterintelligence and Counterterrorism Manager for the FBI has called for a Special Counsel to be appointed to investigate the allegations of FBI translator-turned-whistleblower Sibel Edmonds. John M. Cole, who now works as an intelligence contractor for the Air Force, made his comments during an audio interview released late last week with radio journalist Peter B. Collins.
    He also offered a detailed insiders look at the concerns among high-level officials inside the Bureau as Edmonds disturbing allegations began coming to light back in 2002, before they would be quashed for seven long years by the Bush Administration’s unprecedented use of the so-called “State Secrets Privilege” to gag her.
    Earlier last week, following the publication of a remarkable American Conservative magazine cover story interview with Edmonds — detailing a broad bribery, blackmail and espionage conspiracy said to have been carried out between current and former members of the U.S. Congress, high-ranking State and Defense Department officials and covert operatives from Turkey and Israel, resulting in the theft and sale of nuclear weapons technology to the foreign black market — Cole had been quoted by the magazine confirming one of Edmonds’ key allegations.
    “I am fully aware of the FBI’s decade-long investigation of” Marc Grossman, he said in response to the AmCon article/interview. Grossman had served as the third-highest ranking official in the Bush State Department and was alleged by Edmonds in the interview, and in a sworn, video-taped deposition a month earlier, to have been the U.S. ringleader for a massive Turkish espionage scandal reaching through the halls of power and into top secret nuclear facilities around the country to the benefit of allies and enemies alike. Cole said that the FBI’s counterintelligence probe “ultimately was buried and covered up,” and that he believes it is “long past time” for an investigation of the case to “bring about accountability.”
    In his subsequent interview with Collins last week (audio and text excerpts posted below) Cole elaborated on those comments in much greater detail, noting that Edmonds has been “one hundred percent right on the money, on the mark” and confirming the existence of an “ongoing and detailed effort by Turkey to develop influence in the United States” through various illegal activities.
    “Yes, I can confirm that,” Cole told Collins, “That’s true.”
    The FBI veteran executive also offered an insider’s account of the panic that ensued inside the highest echelons of the Bureau following Edmonds first disclosure of information in 2002, recounting how an executive assistant director admitted to him at the time, just after the story first broke, “Well, all I know is that everything that Sibel is stating is true. I read her file. Everything she stated is, in fact, accurate.”
    “Everybody at headquarters level at the bureau knew that what she was saying was extremely accurate. … They were trying to figure out ways of keeping this whole thing quiet, because they didn’t want Sibel to come out.”
    Cole further describes how the concerns about Edmonds ultimately led to the Bush Administration’s two-time use of the draconian “State Secrets Privilege” in hopes of keeping her extraordinary information from becoming public. “Everybody at headquarters level at the bureau knew that what she was saying was extremely accurate.”
    “I know they didn’t want her to go out and speak about it at all,” Cole revealed, “and I know they were trying to figure out ways of keeping this whole thing quiet, because they didn’t want Sibel to come out.”
    He also offered information which directly counters one of the criticisms of Edmonds’ allegations as frequently offered by skeptics. Namely, that as a short time FBI contract translator — even though she was tasked to review some seven years of counterintelligence wiretaps made from 1996 to 2002 — she couldn’t have had enough understanding of the full scope of the investigations to understand what was really going on.
    “The thing is,” Cole explained to Collins, “the position that Sibel was in, she had access to extremely sensitive information. The translators have access to some of the most sensitive information that we receive.”
    He detailed how first-hand information goes first from the translators to the investigators who then act on it, as some of the most important information collected by FBI language specialists could have “implications that may affect even the White House, or policy.”
    “So what I’m saying is, I know she had access to some very sensitive stuff, and I could see why the Bureau would squirm over her coming out and speaking about some of the things that were going on.”
    The interview concluded with Cole’s re-iteration of both his confidence in Edmonds’ credibility, and his call for accountability.
    “I would love to see, especially with the allegations that Sibel has come out with, her allegations — which I believe are in fact true, I have no reason to doubt what she’s saying — I would love to see somebody take that, a Special Counsel or whatever, some group of people that you could trust, have them investigate those allegations and have people’s feet held to the fire. Have them be held accountable for their actions — and prosecuted if they’ve done wrong.”
    continues……
    http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7449

    Reply

  13. JamesL says:

    Arthur: “Your view of the Left is 30 maybe 40 years out of date.”
    You are so right! However my hope that the Left could rise again to some level of coherence (instead of remaining post-60’s drunk, bamboozled and content as 60-somethings as a left running back for the Right–that’s not even a center) is based on that old old idea that, as far as I recall (being I’m so old and out of date) the common weal was a rather more central concept to the framers of the Constitution of this former democracy than it is in DC ’09, and a central concept to Lincoln as well, who I know SOMEONE here will beat with a stick for either not being perfect, or who sexually cavorted with goats in some ideological histories, or who was really Jewish or not Jeweish, but who at least did publically reiterate for TV (oh, forgot, he’s pre-historic) that in a democracy, those who are lucky–l-u-c-k-y– enough to HAVE bear some responsibilty for those in need who weren’t so lucky, or who were doublecrossed by somebody else looking for power or profit (ring a bell?) and are innocent of any wrongdoing. It’s that old irksome compassion thing that the Right has managed to eliminate from its platform and is working on totally eliminating from its genetic code. “Quaint” and “compassion” rhyme on the right side of the aisle, and I continue, vainly so far, to hope for the best from the other side of the aisle. I would add an aisle if I thought it would help, but at this point I think the system is rotten to its damned core and only a systemic change, which the American people are NOT even close to being up to, is the only possible solution. Now Arthur if I am wrong on this you should tell me because without hope of some kind I will actively begin emigration proceedings to either #1 ranked Norway, or some country that possesses NO oil, or Iceland, which may be economically imploding due to American contamination of the global econ system, but at least has the brains not to invest in a military. Counting on you Aurthur.

    Reply

  14. Connor Vlakancic says:

    There is nothing “Democratic” leaning about Illinois. It is leaning more Democrats. This double entendre is a really sad irony.

    Reply

  15. arthurdecco says:

    “The feedback loop that allows democracy to work is broken, and that is more due to conscious Republican dissembly than it is to the Left who, despite their failings, still tend to think that a government should be the expression and caretaking of the common weal.” JamesL
    With respect, JamesL, there is no political Left left in Amerika – certainly no Left that believes “government should be the expression and caretaking of the common weal”. The United States has been co-opted by two sibling Corporatist political parties whose interests threaten every living American with ignoble, expensive death or wage slavery to fund the destruction that enriches them and their real bosses.
    Your view of the Left is 30 maybe 40 years out of date.

    Reply

  16. Tahoe Editor says:

    Note the indent — “sicko” isn’t Steve’s word.

    Reply

  17. ... says:

    wigwag quote “I guess not, unless you count the legions of fauxgressives who actually rooted for the War in Iraq to turn into a disaster just so President Bush would be proven wrong and suffer a humiliating political defeat.” i think the war was a success to bush/cheney and the military industrial complex wigwag…
    many knew beforehand that it would be a disaster for the people of iraq, many american soldiers, americas image in the world and the ordinary citizen, but to people like bush/cheney, the military industrial complex and a few others that will go unnamed it was a raging success… success and failure are all relative to who is doing the valuation as is the term ‘sicko’.. i will admit steve using the word sicko was uncharacteristic.. he is usually more subtle then this!

    Reply

  18. WigWag says:

    “She was the only reporter there. Steele interrupted his speech to announce that Chicago had lost and Rio had won the 2016 Olympics.
    The entire audience erupted in applause and cheers. Then, when Steele announced that Chicago had lost on the first round, the crowd went even wilder, cheering and whooping it up that America had lost the Olympics. These people are sicko.” (Steve Clemons)
    Steve’s certainly correct; right wing Republicans surely detest President Obama; but do they detest President Obama more than left wing Democrats detested President Bush?
    So committed to their hatred of the man and his policies are these right wing nut jobs,that they were happy to see their nation lose the Oympics just so that Obama would suffer a political defeat.
    The left wing of the Democratic Party never displayed such disloyalty when Bush was President did they?
    I guess not, unless you count the legions of fauxgressives who actually rooted for the War in Iraq to turn into a disaster just so President Bush would be proven wrong and suffer a humiliating political defeat.
    Bush was wrong; but Democrats are no more politically mature than Republicans and people on the left are no better than people on the right.
    As often as not, they root for their opponent to fail even if it means their nation fails.
    It’s not just the Michael Steele crowd who are the sickos.
    I don’t recall any posts like this from Steve when the fauxgressive blogosphere was cheering every idiotic mistake and policy failure of President Bush.
    Were they sickos too?

    Reply

  19. Tahoe Editor says:

    Connecting the president’s IOC lobbying effort with the upcoming climate-change melee just because they’re in the same city seems beyond a stretch of the imagination to me.

    Reply

  20. daCascadian says:

    Those of you spouting off about the tactics being
    used in AfPak need to spend some time in the
    military and attempt to understand how warfare
    is done. McChrystal is a little too full of himself
    (not unusual for officers w/Special Ops
    backgrounds) and needs to pull in his horns to
    survive in uniform until normal retirement time.
    Those of you expecting a quick end to the AfPak
    & Iraq campaigns need to stop watching all those
    war movies. Success takes time and lot of brutish
    & nasty events.
    You do want all that gas & oil don’t you ?
    “…the West won the world not by the superiority
    of its ideas or values or religion…but rather by its
    superiority in applying organized violence.
    Westerners often forget this fact, non-Westerners
    never do.” – Samuel P. Huntington
    [Captcha still broken – 2nd attempt]

    Reply

  21. ... says:

    and in other news… keep borrowing from the chinese to continue a war (or is it nation building? i get confused..) in afganistan while stuff like this (article below) is going on at home… makes about as much sense as everything else the usa is involved with at the moment..
    http://www.calculatedriskblog.com/2009/10/new-york-income-tax-revenue-falls-36.html

    Reply

  22. ... says:

    silver slipper, regardless whether you have any appreciation for the words of brzezinski, the concern still holds true that the usa is flirting with a very similar fate russia experienced in the 80’s… i think this is a central issue that can’t be blown off easily in spite of who it is who points it out.. i realize the neo cons with the military establishment behind them are loath to point this out, but it doesn’t change the hard reality that is staring the usa in the face, if its leaders are ”’brave enough”’ to take an honest look at the reality and precedents associated with being in afgan..

    Reply

  23. Steve Clemons says:

    silver slipper — very good comments above, but to clarify my views…I believed that Chicago, Tokyo, and Madrid were not ideal choices for reasons I outlined. But I would not cheer the demise of any of their campaigns, particularly Chicago’s.
    I also thought that Obama going to Copenhagen was a soft way of saying he supported what was coming up in the climate change negotiations as Copenhagen, at this moment in time, is best known as the place where a new climate change regime will or won’t be created. I still think I was right about that — but that feint has been drowned out by other factors.
    I didn’t write but said publicly before the decision that Obama’s trip could just as easily undermine Chicago’s chances as the IOC may fear a backlash of appearing too under Obama’s spell and influence. It was just a bit too much to maintain the illusion of objectivity… Mystique, even Obama’s, has limits and can’t be deployed too often to work.
    But thanks for your other interesting comments, all of you — but know that I never cheered Chicago’s loss of the Games and would never do so. I did support Rio’s bid, but would have been pleased, if the city were chosen, to strongly support Chicago as well.
    That’s not what the crowd Steele was speaking to did.
    All the best,
    Steve Clemons

    Reply

  24. Tahoe Editor says:

    “I don’t think many people in Chicago will be choosing their party affiliation based on the fatuous remarks of Michael Steele.”
    2nd that

    Reply

  25. silver slipper says:

    JamesL – It is very sad that real lives are being lost in the Afghanistan battle. My original point is that lives are being lost while President Obama seems occupied with other issues. I used the term “re-enactment” from the post of “…” . The recent loss of 8 American soldiers is linked to a story here on TWN. It was a post in May 2009. A quote from Mr. Clemmons says: “Another former senior US government official at the conference I am attending in Doha told me that Obama and Petraeus may be pushing over the next week or two a hard core push by the Pakistan military in the Swat region. Zardari and the military are resisting — and believe that the deal signed and ratified with the Taliban now running Swat can’t be undone — but word is that the US is insisting that this deal with the Taliban not stand. The price for action if Zardari concedes will be massively increased aid and lots of “helicopter gun ships” which the Pakistan military thrives on. ” The link is http://www.thewashingtonnote.com/archives/2009/05/surge_in_pakist/ . My point is that it appears a direct decision from President Obama that caused the Taliban to move closer to the border. They mounted an attack against our American outpost, and eight soldiers were killed.
    I hope Dan Kervick is right and President Obama is staying informed about the war and the troops’ needs on the ground. I hope either President Obama is adamant that his goals in Afghanistan are achieved (and provides what the troops need at all costs), or he decides to just get us out of there.

    Reply

  26. JamesL says:

    SS: “It’s President Obama’s responsibility to keep it from becoming a reenactment of Russia vs Afghanistan in the 1980’s.”
    Hey, re-enactments are a popular form of American entertainment. You get to wear a costume, and after you’re shot and have laid there a while for the cameras you can get up and go have something to eat.

    Reply

  27. JamesL says:

    POA: “And these posturing ineffective mewling pricks on the left??? We are to consider them mentally balanced??”
    Well, rather more, vapid consumerists excepted. You correctly pointed out that America doesn’t have a representative democracy anymore, and therein lies the jab in those voter’s ribs who still want to believe in the system. Elected candidates of virtually every stripe now waste no time forgetting who elected them and why, and start sniffing after the money trail. It might seem true that ‘democracy isn’t perfect, but it’s the best we have’, but it’s a false argument because the real bottom line is that the government we have is not up to the task. It does seem true that the Right is correct that govmint is the problem, but that is not all that surprising because it is the elected officials who have worked tirelessly to ensure that it becomes ever more dysfunctional and ever more serving of institutions and corporate “citizens”. The concept of a ‘common weal’ is dead, stiff, and cold in history’s morgue. The feedback loop that allows democracy to work is broken, and that is more due to conscious Republican dissembly than it is to the Left who, despite their failings, still tend to think that a government should be the expression and caretaking of the common weal. Any fix would have to be systemic and there is nothing on the horizon, in any direction, on which one might hang hope. The short is that Americans just weren’t up to handling their own success. The bigger they are….

    Reply

  28. Dan Kervick says:

    It’s pretty sad that our President hardly makes time to speak with the Generals on the ground, and even when he does speak with them, he puts their concerns off.
    This is ridiculous. McChrystal was from all reports heavily involved via teleconference in last week’s White House war council on Afghanistan. He also got chance to report directly to Obama in a special face-to-face meeting on Air Force One. Finally, his reports go up through the chain of command (when he is not busy leaking them in the press, or presenting them through the meida in England). There is no evidence at all that his counsel is not being heeded and taken into appropriate account by the President, NSA and Secretary of Defense.
    Now maybe he would like some kind of promotion so that he doesn’t have to go through his bosses Petraeus and Gates any more. But until then, there are established procedures in place, and they are working.

    Reply

  29. Linda says:

    I lived in Los Angeles the entire time that it was bidding on and won to hold the 1984 Olympics. Angelenos were almost 100% in favor of them. The 1984 Olympics were well run and actually made money.
    People here in Atlanta also very much wanted the 1996 Olympics, that while less successful, enabled the city to clean up a deteriorated area of downtown, build new dorms for local universities, and provide many other lasting improvements for the city.
    I happened to have dinner last night with an old friend, a liberal Democrat, native of and visiting here from Chicago. The population there was divided about 50/50 about holding the Olympics–very concerned about the cost and whether they would end up like Montreal that got stuck with a big deficit that took the taxpayers there 30 years to pay off.
    A lot of Chicago liberal Democrats don’t trust any mayor named Daley. This was merely a defeat for the political and eonomic elite in Chicago, IL, and the Obama Administration.
    It matter much more that they get it right and succeed on health care reform, climate change, jobs/economy, and Iraq/Afghanistan.

    Reply

  30. silver slipper says:


    I’m sorry, but I don’t gain much confidence from the opinions of a previous President Carter adviser. Also, Zbigniew Brzezinski’s opinion matters very little compared to McChrystal’s. McChrystal is the commander on the ground, and he knows the exact mission President Obama has given him. For President Obama to not talk to him but once in 70 days is inexcusable. It was President Obama who in his campaign and his presidency has said that Afghanistan is to be the focus. It’s President Obama’s responsibility to keep it from becoming a reenactment of Russia vs Afghanistan in the 1980’s.

    Reply

  31. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “Sane is not a description for the modern(?)Republican party”
    And these posturing ineffective mewling pricks on the left??? We are to consider them mentally balanced??
    When are the American people going to wake up and drop this partisan divide that enables BOTH sides of the aisle to give us a royal screwing???

    Reply

  32. ... says:

    silver slipper comment “It’s pretty sad that our President hardly makes time to speak with the Generals on the ground, and even when he does speak with them, he puts their concerns off.”
    you are hoping for something better then a reenactment of russia in afganistan in the 80’s…
    “Zbigniew Brzezinski says that a central consideration for President Barack Obama, as he faces an agonizing choice over Afghanistan, is what happened to the Russians in the 1980s and after they were driven out in 1989.”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/05/us/05iht-letter.html?em

    Reply

  33. Jackie says:

    I can’t remember who said it first, but this sums it up, “forget a loyal oposition, I’d settle for a sane one”. Sane is not a description for the modern(?)Republican party.

    Reply

  34. silver slipper says:

    Mr. Clemmons – Did you not also give at least an inner cheer when Chicago lost? You were pulling openly for Rio from the start.
    But I do get the point. The Republicans (in this meeting) seem to see this as a political victory with President Obama demonstrating that he doesn’t have as much sway in the world as people might think.
    Huffington post puts the Republican sentiment pretty well: “How the International Olympic Committee’s rejection of the Windy City’s bid affects the politics surrounding Obama’s trip to Copenhagen remains to be seen. But in the immediate aftermath, it has provided ample fodder for Republicans to further accuse the president of having wasted his time, skirted his responsibilities, and acted as a crony for some of his big-moneyed donors.”
    Read more at: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/02/conservatives-revel-in-ob_n_307794.html
    Oh, and while he’s been getting over his jet lag from that trip, 8 American soldiers were killed yesterday. That story kind of connects to a story that was posted on this website about the Pakistan troops being sent to the SWAT area to combat Taliban forces. See the article http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/Afghanistan/article6860616.ece . It says “Jamaluddin Badar, Nuristan’s governor, said that the Taleban fighters had moved to the province after being driven from Pakistan’s Swat Valley by Pakistani troops. He said that he sought more security forces for Kamdesh district, adding: “When there are few security forces, this is what happens.”” It’s pretty sad that our President hardly makes time to speak with the Generals on the ground, and even when he does speak with them, he puts their concerns off.

    Reply

  35. JohnH says:

    Oh well! Chicagoans support the Cubs, too.

    Reply

  36. Curious observer says:

    I don’t think many people in Chicago will be choosing their party affiliation based on the fatuous remarks of Michael Steele.
    Especially because Chicagoans themselves were deeply divided on the desirability of the Olympics as the decision date drew closer. Many people came to suspect it was just another scheme to enrich Daley’s cronies at the expense of the middle class. (The sentiment would have been much more positive, I imagine, had decision day been two years ago when the economy was not yet in recession and there hadn’t been a parking-meter privatization fiasco.)

    Reply

  37. PissedOffAmerican says:

    Over a million dead Iraqis, billions upon billions spent killing them, all based on lies. Chemical light sticks shoved up Muslim assholes. American citizen’s communications evesdropped upon, illegally. Attorney Generals that are little more than willing knee-padded concubines for the President. Questionable election results. Bipartisan disrespect for the law and the Constitution. Widespread graft, corruption and personal immorality and infidelity in the ranks of the House.
    And cheering the loss of the Olympics now renders these lying thieving murderous pieces of shit “sickos”? Steve, they reached that classification a looooong time ago, and its not just the right side of the aisle.
    Cruise on over to Marshall’s site, give a gander, then ask yourself…
    “Does the general population have the same percentage of scumbags, thieves, adulterers, slanderers, liars, traitors, and death merchants as Washington DC has???”
    If rubbing shoulders with the scum in that town hasn’t totally soiled your soul, than you would have to answer with a resounding “NO!!!”.

    Reply

  38. DonS says:

    Can there be any clearer indication that Steele has cemented his place in the uncle Tom” hall of fame? Not just because he is black, but because he so heartily seems to endorse the subtext of many politicos that Obama needs to be beaten down, and then kicked while he is down. You would think Steele would have some shred of pride, but he keeps reinforcing the image of house boy, to be polite. The latest example is getting told to sit down and shut up by congressional leaders over health care issues:
    http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/27898.html
    When is the media going to catch on to the downside — if there is one — of the Republican brass lapping up the easy high fives for reinforcing the wingnut right?
    When you get a Michelle Bachman avoiding even taking a question over the targeted killing of a census worker, and a few of the higher repub brass back peddling on the hysteria they have tolerated from the ‘birthers’, etc., you get a feeling that maybe there is some awareness of the hate that has been unleashed, abetted and fomented to greater or lesser degree by representatives of the US government.
    We are indeed a sick and getting sicker country.

    Reply

Add your comment

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *