Discussing Egypt with WNYC’s Brian Lehrer

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More here.
Things are getting tense. There is a world of difference between how things tilted when Marcos when departed the Philippines and other models as in Tiananmen, China or Iran when the government crushed the people’s call for justice and a new order.
I am in touch with well-connected Arab-Americans who have been in Egypt, close to power, but who know that Mubarak can’t be part of Egypt’s next steps.
Am trying to report and share my views as I can. More soon.
— Steve Clemons

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19 comments on “Discussing Egypt with WNYC’s Brian Lehrer

  1. Cee says:

    Carroll, I haven’t heard from my girlffriend AT ALL since
    this began.

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  2. Carroll says:

    Just heard the most heart rending earnest description of how the protesters feel from a young Egyptian girl on MSNBC…literally made me cry. She was saying they stayed away from violence but Mubarak is killing their people anyway..but that since some had died to had to keep on for them and Egypt….that they all knew that if they quit and lost this fight Mubarak would hunt them down and take revenge on the protesters.
    Now, what could O do?…what would the mafia do?
    Mubarak has family outside of Egypt, …his wife and son are in London…snatch their asses and dump them in Gitmo and tell Mubarak that’s where they will rot as long he stays in Egypt…..it’s not like we have any gd scruples or care about the law or individual rights anyway…..so why pretend in this case?..do whatever it takes to get him out.
    That…is exactly what I would do.
    Mubarak wants to get tough? Get tougher.Up the anty on him. Washington can do their usual spin for public consumption and call the kidnapping protective custody.

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  3. downtown says:

    Lehrer is a rank ZIONIST;..Jesus Christ, can’t we ever get rid of these pretenders? Nothing liberal there…I listen to the first five minutes of his show daily….he’s a CREEP!
    http://mondoweiss.net/2010/10/brian-lehrers-evenhandedness-disappears-when-it-comes-to-israeli-violence.html

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  4. Paul Norheim says:

    “Where is Steve and what is he doing?
    Does anyone know?”
    Steve just answered your question, Carroll:
    “At US Global Leadership Coalition dinner. Just had short yet
    meaningful chats w/Bill Gates, Madeleine Albright, Dan
    Glickman & Tom Ridge
    31 minutes ago via Twitterrific”

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  5. Carroll says:

    Some Israelis see Egypt revolt influence changing the game in Palestine. Let’s hope.
    http://mideast.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2011/02/01/complicating_the_transition_in_us_egyptian_relations?sms_ss=twitter&at_xt=4d483a121e60ec84,0
    ‘As the region reconfigures itself, the US should help Israel adjust to a new reality – convincing Israel to withdraw from the Palestinian territories would be the best option, but just explaining to Israel that America now has to deal with an Arab politics that is in its post-dictatorship phase and will henceforth have to be more responsive to public opinion – that will be a necessity.
    It won’t be easy politically, but getting it right in this period of re-adjustment will have to include a less Israel-centric calibration of U.S. policy.’
    Daniel Levy directs the Middle East Task Force at the New America Foundation and is an editor of the Middle East Channel.

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  6. Carroll says:

    Gossip and rumors…
    Sic Semper Tryannis.com
    Col Lang
    ‘Friday is likely to be the day…
    There are very strong rumors coming out of sources close to the Saudi government suggesting that King Abd’allah, who is now in Morocco, has convinced President Mubarak to step down to avoid a possible bloodbath during anticipated massive demonstrations on Friday. Abd’allah has also reportedly offered Mubarak asylum in Saudi Arabia, but Mubarak has not yet accepted the offer.’
    02 February 2011 in Egypt | Permalink

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  7. Carroll says:

    Yes but where has he been….was he part of the WH outside working group? Did I see someone mention that?

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  8. Dan Kervick says:

    He said he’s going to be on Rachel Maddow tonight.

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  9. Carroll says:

    Where is Steve and what is he doing?
    Does anyone know?

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  10. Carroll says:

    Turkey’s allegiance is to Turkey. As it should be.
    And it is doing a pretty good job of maintaining it’s independent posture while trying to deal forthrightly with the US, Israel, Iran and all other regional and outside interest….IMHO.
    The US should take a lesson.

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  11. questions says:

    Is it “democracy” we’re worried about, or is it economic justice such that the price of oil is determined by local populations rather than by exploitative market practices?
    If the bulk of the world’s oil and mineral supplies were priced based on fair labor value and fair return to stakeholders, our cars, iPods, and wars could get a whole lot pricier.
    We should also realize that there are structures in place, aside from US support, that encourage more authoritarian regimes in extractive industry-dependent regions.
    It could be that the US goes with the flow more than that it directs the flow, but like all such cause and effect relations, it’s hard to tell who’s wagging what.

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  12. Dan Kervick says:

    “I don’t see this at all. Turkey has abandoned the triple alliance with the US and Israel and, driven by Israel’s murder of embargo-defying Turks, has shifted its allegiance to Iran, thus strengthening Iran.”
    This is remarkably silly. You sound like a neocon Don. If you think for just five minutes about the full scope of Turkey’s foreign policy postures, it would be glaringly obvious to you that Turkey does not tender any “allegiance” to Iran.

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  13. Don Bacon says:

    SC: “. . . a new strategy of engagement that protects America’s interests

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  14. questions says:

    This is interesting, too:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/03/world/middleeast/03jihad.html?hp
    A jihadi’s greatest fear is the secularized push for political liberties as separate from Islamism.

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  15. non-hater says:

    “Am trying to report and share my views as I can. More soon.”
    Thanks, Steve.

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  16. Paul Norheim says:

    I hope Steve doesn’t mind that I quote some excerpts from
    an article he published at Yahoo News a couple of hours
    ago:
    Excerpts:
    “Mubarak’s close relationship with the United States at the
    expense of Egyptian popular sentiments on a host of
    foreign policy issues means that Egypt could go the way of
    Turkey

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  17. questions says:

    Here’s a view from Jordan:
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2011/02/01/AR2011020105708.html
    “When I was deputy prime minister of Jordan, I led a national, inclusive effort to produce a 10-year plan for political, economic and social reform. The Jordanian National Agenda provided a blueprint for moving the ball forward in gradual and serious ways. It didn’t rely on rhetoric but laid out specific programs with clear deadlines, how they fit into the budget and how results could be measured. ”

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  18. StageCoach says:

    The bigger challenge now, as was the case in Iraq to some extent, is that there is no real political structure/process within the opposition to field candidates if an election were to be held tomorrow. The people seem to have gotten ahead of the system.

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