DADT FINAL SENATE VOTE AT 3 PM TODAY: Will Joe Manchin Show?

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Joe-Manchin.jpgDon’t Ask Don’t Tell is gone. Today at 3 pm, a roll call vote will be held in the US Senate.
A simple majority is needed to pass — and that we have.
Big question is whether newly minted US Senator from West Virginia Joe Manchin will show up to vote.
Turns out he needs some on the job training after all — and wasn’t prepared for the tough decisions he was going to make in the US Senate given his comments that he didn’t know enough yet to move one way or another on this vote.
Manchin is running on conventional tracks now — worried that West Virginia has a lot of military folks who will object to DADT repeal. (But that didn’t stop Senator Robert Byrd and Senator Jay Rockefeller from strongly supporting repeal.)
Sadly, what Manchin does today at 3 pm will define him for a long time — no matter how much good he does on other policy fronts.
— Steve Clemons

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5 comments on “DADT FINAL SENATE VOTE AT 3 PM TODAY: Will Joe Manchin Show?

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  2. WigWag says:

    “That’s not true, Wigwag. Manchin has to run again in two years…” (Nadine)
    Thanks, Nadine. I stand corrected. I appreciate it.

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  3. Neo Controll says:

    “Steve, I think you’re being a little harsh on Senator Manchin.”
    How would you possibly know, wig wag, since you weren’t privy to Steve’s discussion?
    “So I bet he agreed not to vote on cloture (where it might have mattered) but will vote against repeal in the final vote (where it won’t matter). jmho”
    Showing real spine, eh? What do you care anyway nadine. Gay rights is an issue for democratic and suckers, right, not something any self respecting, or other-hating, teabagger would endorse.

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  4. nadine says:

    “I think it would be good if Senator Manchin showed a little spine, especially since he doesn’t have to run for reelection again for almost six years.”
    That’s not true, Wigwag. Manchin has to run again in two years; he’s finishing Byrd’s term. So I bet he agreed not to vote on cloture (where it might have mattered) but will vote against repeal in the final vote (where it won’t matter). jmho

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  5. WigWag says:

    Steve, I think you’re being a little harsh on Senator Manchin.
    Don’t get me wrong; I’m thrilled the DADT is going to be repealed and I will celebrate the Senate vote along with all people of good conscience. I think it would be good if Senator Manchin showed a little spine, especially since he doesn’t have to run for reelection again for almost six years.
    But when you say
    “Manchin is running on conventional tracks now — worried that West Virginia has a lot of military folks who will object to DADT repeal. (But that didn’t stop Senator Robert Byrd and Senator Jay Rockefeller from strongly supporting repeal.)”
    you’re going over the top.
    Robert Byrd was an institution in West Virginia in the same way that Strom Thurmod was an institution in South Carolina. Senator Byrd could have supported Pee Wee Herman or Dame Edna for Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff and still been reelected.
    Rockefeller’s personal net worth is probably larger than the entire GDP of West Virginia. He will never face a credible opponent because no one could ever raise enough money to pose a realistic challenge to him.
    Suggesting that Manchin is in the same political boat as either Byrd or Rockefeller just doesn’t pass the smell test.
    I would be delighted if the new Senator decides to show some courage but if he doesn’t, so what?
    As long as the repeal bill passes, who cares?

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