Cool — Cameo on The Daily Show

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(Steve Clemons talking about bin Laden photos with Lawrence O’Donnell on MSNBC’s The Last Word — which then appeared on The Daily Show with Jon Stewart)
Got about 100 emails and phone texts that yours truly had appeared in a montage on The Daily Show. I’m in at exactly the 7:00:00 point — but hilarious segment with important messages and thoughts from Jon Stewart.
Here is the link.
— Steve Clemons

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24 comments on “Cool — Cameo on The Daily Show

  1. Carroll says:

    I still want to know what the complaints were about that caused this new TWN. Who complained about what? I never went running to Steve with complaints even when the zios called me every (dirty) sexist and really disgusting name imaginable for my zionist and Israel criticism.
    During my time on here the main mud slinging was on the Israel I/P issue..I don’t recall seeing any vulgar fights about anything else.
    It seems this change started when Steve got attacked by the pro Israelis and all the mess wig, nadine and marcus started here…accusing Steve of ‘hosting’ anti semites ..where did they go btw?
    So what exactly is the problem …is it the ones who attacked Steve, which I could understand, you don’t attack your host, disagree but not attack…or is it vulgar language…or is it those who want to ‘censor’ opinions?
    Whatever ..it’s just not the same fast moving, interesting, revealing, free flow of opinions and arguments it use to be.
    I haven’t been here much so don’t know what is going on now but looks like there are a lot less comments these days. Steve should just put a disclaimer on here like so many do that opinions expressed don’t reflect TWN’s views and only remove the profane and let it go at that.
    Let me say in POA’s defense though, that’s it’s really hard to be too vulgar about most of the politicians in Washington or about the pitiful MS media and a lot of elite centers in this country. People are worn out with the Washington incompetence and babblespeak and their anger has to find an outlet somewhere.

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  2. DakotabornKansan says:

    @ POA
    I do not consider you to be a “troll.” Far from it. As I have posted on several occasions, I have always enjoyed your sometimes profane, yet thoughtful volleys. I never considered them

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  3. PissedOffAmerican says:

    “I am not surprised that there have been no apologies or commitments from the trolls to change their behavior”
    Actually, unless you consider me a “troll”, you have the target of Steve’s chagrin wrong. It is I that he is so peeved at. And if I thought an apology would alleviate his discomfort, I would offer it, albiet with less conviction than I normally consign to my apologies.
    However, this latest round of “moderation” was launched with new ground rules as a justificatiion. Even the fair keeled Norhiem made that observation. I had ceased my ad hominem directed towards these “trolls” you allude to, and was on good behaviour in regards to treating fellow commentors with civility. My sin, apparently, this time, was to dare to challenge certain narratives, and to direct my animous and disdain where it could be expressed with sincere heart felt conviction, towards the loathsome criminal elitists currently at the helm of our once great nation.
    Was I too “vulgar” in my criticism of the ludicrous assertion that someone like Ben Nelson, in forfeiting a paycheck or two, could understand or relate to a working stiff “regular folk” of low income who finds himself unemployed and unable to pay his power bill, much less his mortgage or rental fee?
    Was I too “vulgar” with my labeling of the elected officials who turn their backs on the hardships and health emergencies of our 9/11 first responders, while voting to ship the racist regime of Bibi Netanyahu a few more billion dollars of our tax monies? If not whores, than what are they?
    I apologize to the commentors here, and have before, for my stubborness and past trangressions. I apologize to Steve for those occassions when I attacked fellow commentors for little more than their ideology, no matter how repulsive or despicable I found, (still find), their opinions, beliefs, and delivery.
    What I DO NOT apologize for is the heart felt and honestly expressed loathing I feel for what the criminals in Washington DC are doing in America’s name. Like I said before, were Steve to spend a day at a construction site with me, he would find my delivery somewhat tame compared to what a huge number of “regular folk” are saying about the despicable algae that is smothering the clean air out of Washington DC.
    And I DO NOT apologize for being taken for a fool, which is EXACTLY what is happening when some fat cat multi-millionare politician claims “I feel your pain” because he mouths some crap about forfieting a paycheck or two. The premise is LUDICROUS, and Steve KNOWS it is ludicrous.
    An empty apology is no apology at all. I have apologized, sincerely, for what I believe I should apologize for. Thats all I can, or will, do.

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  4. questions says:

    “Al Qaeda’s leadership has issued a statement confirming the death of Osama bin Laden, the Associated Press reports.
    The statement, dated May 3, has not been independently verified, but is signed by “the general leadership” of Al Qaeda and posted on militant websites through which the group normally puts out messages.
    “We stress that the blood of the holy warrior sheik, Osama bin Laden, God bless him, is precious to us and to all Muslims and will no go in vain,” the statement said. “We will remain, God willing, a curse chasing the Americans and their agents, following them outside and inside their countries.””
    http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2011/05/al_qaeda_confirms_osama_bin_ladens_death.php?ref=fpa

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  5. DakotabornKansan says:

    It is indeed unfortunate that trolls have repeatedly breached the netiquette of TWN community. Likewise for the flamewars.
    One of my favorites from HBO

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  6. rc says:

    Interesting difference between shame and guilt based cultures — e.g. http://www.doceo.co.uk/background/shame_guilt.htm (also * below)
    The short term gain by taking direct military intervention in Abbottabad to allegedly nail Osama bin Laden may be countered by the longer-term response by Pakistan’s military elite.
    With US boot-prints freshly and very publicly stamped on their necks, and the drive for a face-saving scenario strong and verging on the irrational, one only needs to look at the map to see Kashmir, with its potential strategic land-0bridge with China, as the next likely flare-up.
    With China’s massive foreign reserves and a reasonable capacity to fill any aid/trade vacuum created by change in US foreign policy towards Pakistan there must be some risk to US domestic economic interests.
    Clearly Afghanistan is not happy, Iraq is not asking for a extended stay of their uninvited guests, and Egypt is rethinking its regional leadership role (and possible lack of need for continued US military aid). The risk for the US is, no one will want that portion of US aid packages that are essentially the rotating $tax door to the US’s domestic military industrial complex — and therefore domestic employment.
    US strategic risk is not a few nutters visiting a martyr’s tomb and dreaming of paradise — rather, it is a drop in demand for expensive war toys care of the US tax payer (and print presses).
    Terminating Osama bin Laden, in the way it was done, whether in reality or in myth, may have higher regional blow-back costs than are first apparent. My money is on Kashmir becoming a new front with India (and China) in on the new version of the ‘great game’ as the US is eased out of direct relevance to future strategic outcomes in that region.
    The only counter scenarios can be business-as-usual, or India and Pakistan falling in love and making peace. And neither of these give the US much dominance in the medium- to long-term future.
    It really may have been smarter to just leave bin Laden under the ‘house arrest’ option in Abbottabad and honey-pot the network that still considered he had any strategic value. Now we have a very powerful mixture of international shame and guilt based foreign policy that could go anywhere.

    (*) “Loyalty: All Arabs belong to a group or tribe. Loyalty to the family tribe is considered paramount to maintaining honor. One does not question the correctness of the elders or tribes in front of outsiders. It is paramount that the tribe sticks together in order to survive. Once again, Arab history and folklore are full of stories of heroes who were loyal to the end.”
    http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Honour-and-Shame-in-Islam.htm

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  7. DonS says:

    (for posting or not . . ._
    Appreciate the response, Steve. While these/this comment section may be virtually anonymous, over time, parameters and a semblance of respect shape a certain understanding. Frustrated though I may be at times, I respect that.
    Given the evolving parameters, which should be evident to anyone reading here over time, the charge of [Steve being] anyone’s ‘puppet’ makes no sense. I’m surprised that any such presumption could arise.
    Could say a lot more. Shame if the unique environment here is actually threatened by the selfishness of a few.

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  8. Cee says:

    Dakota,
    Thanks for the article on the dogs. I’m glad to read
    that they are more valued and protected.
    A neighbor has a new German Shepherd to protect his
    house,and I’m not sure that he’ll like it that I go
    and play with him when he isn’t around. I’ll confess
    to him soon and offer to take time with the dog
    while he’s at work.
    I can’t stand to see that smart dog bored to death.

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  9. Cee says:

    Avards,
    You could be right. I now tend to think that no
    matter the party, the players and the game are still
    the same. I’ve love to be wrong.

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  10. PissedOffAmerican says:

    So, Holder, in making a public statement about the legality of this “raid”, states unequivicably that Osama “admitted” to the attacks of 9/11.
    Have you seen one single “think tanker”, politician, or media mouthpiece take Holder to task for such a revision of history?
    Point of fact, Osama DENIED involvement. He never, to my knowledge, admitted to managing or organizing the crimes of 9/11. If I’m wrong, show me the quotes. If I’m right, and I believe I am, how do you folks feel about an AG that so blatantly lies in an effort to perpetuate a myth? And how do you feel about a Fourth Estate, a think tank community, and a body politik that doesn’t have the balls to speak up with the TRUTH?
    How many citizens watch people like Holder get on stage, and take him at his word? Seeing no dissent or challenge from the Fourth Estate, or “insiders” to this elitist camp of self-serving criminals in Washington DC, how many people now believe yet ONE MORE DAMNED LIE that has issued forth from the maws of these criminals????
    Amazing how little resemblence yesterday’s tale has to the Story D’Jour, isn’t it? Scratch the firefight. This wasn’t a “raid”, it was an assasination. Worse, it is yet one more tall tale, poorly composed, that has blown up in the faces of the White House scriptwriters. If they’re going to bullshit us, can’t they at least compose a decent fiction that will hold up longer than 24 hours???
    Must think us “regular folks” out here are complete and utter idiots, eh?

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  11. questions says:

    Wow!
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/cia-spied-on-bin-laden-from-safe-house/2011/05/05/AFXbG31F_story.html?hpid=z1
    “The CIA maintained a safe house in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad for a small team of spies who conducted extensive surveillance over a period of months on the compound where Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. Special Operations forces this week, U.S. officials said.”
    ….
    “The effort was so extensive and costly that the CIA went to Congress in December to secure authority to reallocate tens of millions of dollars within assorted agency budgets to fund it, U.S. officials said.”

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  12. Steve Clemons says:

    Note to DonS – Don, as soon as i have some confidence that the people who take unbelievable license to engage in ad hominem attacks, who use terrible vulgarity, and who bait others into escalating assaults on each other cease their irresponsible posting habits, I’ll remove the ‘review’ function on comments. I hate having comments reviewed — but bottom line is that I care what I blog about more than I care about tending to immature behavior from commentors. I receive lots of complaints about some of the comments here — and it just had to stop.
    I wish there was some policing by some other of you against those who violate my rules, but not enough to make this work for me — so until then, my review process will continue. I have not had apologies or commitments from those who have really pushed me to the edge to change their behavior. Instead, I have had piles of ridiculous accusations that I am some how a tool or puppet of others trying to squelch their voices.
    Ridiculous – and not worth my time. But I will keep approving your comments Don.
    best, steve clemons

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  13. avrds says:

    Clearly the Bush administration wanted the nation to believe that Bin Laden might be dead and, even if he were alive, that he was no longer important. Otherwise, this argument goes, the macho Bush cowboys would have caught and killed their renegade Geronimo long ago.
    Pieczenik and his top general friend obviously believed the Bush propaganda.
    But here’s the question the reporter needs to ask: Does anyone really believe that the Bush administration would hold this ace up their sleeve all the way through their time in office and leave it for Obama to play? Particularly after wanting to justify all their horrific policies, including torture, like they are trying to do now?
    There are lots of things the Bush administration did and said that simply did not make any sense at the time, but the idea that they withheld Bin Laden’s death for political reasons would be bizarre even for them.

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  14. questions says:

    Ok, does he also walk on water??
    “After four months of surging higher, oil prices plummeted by almost 9 percent on Thursday”
    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/06/business/06oil.html?hp
    ****
    Looks like a jot of supply/demand and a whole bunch of speculation in commodities. Gold is down, silver is down, other metals are down, oil is down…. The dollar is up a bit.
    Of course, JOBLESS claims are up. The Ryan plan went down.
    Obama plays n-dimensional chess!
    Can he start to make space for doing something about unemployment? I get the feeling people have to MAKE it happen the same way people killed off the Mediscare/Ryanization of America.
    The problem is that we don’t love the jobless enough to care for them. We harbor disgust and horror in some odd talismanic way. If we help them, one day we may, too, become like them. Magical thinking.

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  15. DakotabornKansan says:

    Cool Dogs of War
    President Obama to personally thank the Navy SEAL team who killed Osama bin Laden.
    Including the

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  16. questions says:

    Now, maybe this is nothing, or maybe it’s the beginning of everything. Eternal optimist that I am, I’m hoping it’s THE first toe-in-the-water gesture for the beginningest of steps (something like looking for where you left your shoes, not actually putting them on or even finding matching socks quite yet):
    “CAIRO

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  17. erichwwk says:

    It gets curiouser and curiouser.
    When evidence is planted, and illusions are created for the gullible, entry into the theater of the absurd becomes less restricted. Many can play the ‘truth’ game. From arabnews.com
    ISLAMABAD: The 12-year-ol

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  18. ... says:

    steve, you are mentioned in passing in this article… http://mondoweiss.net/2011/05/kushner-fears-damage-to-his-reputation.html#more-42208
    A leading artist is afraid when someone says that he has disparaged a foreign country. I’d point out that back in January, Steve Clemons of the New America Foundation organized a bigwigs’ letter that urged Obama to condemn Israeli settlement-building in the U.N. Security Council– a letter that of course failed– and that Jennifer Rubin in the Washington Post derided Clemons as an “Israel-basher.”
    The comment unnerved Clemons, who is a leading Washington Democrat,and much as Kushner has appealed to CUNY, Clemons called on The Washington Post to retract the charge. He wrote:
    Calling someone an Israel-basher is akin to calling them an anti-Semite or a bigot, and that can’t go without response.

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  19. Kathleen says:

    Hey Steve your efforts have been brought up over at
    http://mondoweiss.net/
    Had you heard what happened to Kushner

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  20. Kathleen says:

    Stewart and his writers can really rip into the truth. And on top of it he has even ventured into off limits issues on his program the last year. Israel’s horrific policies and the I lobby. Stewart would not touch these issues for over a decade.
    Steve you always look composed and thoughtful.
    I sure wish a guest on any of the MSNBC programs such as yourself would mention all of the recycling of Iraq war thugs from the Bush administration.
    as of late I really can not understand why MSNBC is recycling so many Iraq warmongers. Martin Bashir had Douglas Feith on. Condi “mushroom cloud” Rice has been making the rounds. You are going to have her on tonight. Wolfowitz has been on many Sunday morning news programs. Chris Matthews and you have have David “axis of evil” Frum on all of the time. Rumsfeld has been given a great deal of time on many MSNBC programs. Enough of the recycling of warmongers.
    OBL has been held accountable for his crimes against humanity. But these war thug have not. They are all responsible for the hundreds of thousands of deaths, injuries and millions displaced (that you folks barely mention and certainly do not show pictures of) in Iraq. Instead of giving them opportunities to insult our intelligence push for holding these war criminals accountable. The only difference between these people and OBL is that he has been held accountable for being complicit in the killing of innocent people and they have not. They are responsible for far more death and destruction than OBL. Trials would suffice
    Now I know in our media and amongst the majority of American public Iraqi lives do not have the value of American lives. Oh so obvious…. but
    “Justice will be done” when the same standards of justice and accountability applied to OBL are applied to these criminals and their crimes against humanity. Until then I wish MSNBC would please stop shoving these Iraqi war thugs in our faces. They should be on trial at the Hague not being beamed into our living rooms

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  21. questions says:

    Indeed, more googlable moments….
    http://abcnewsradio.net/post/5189964260/top-five-osama-bin-laden-health-rumors-fact-or-fiction
    From the briefest of google searches, looks like this guy MAY have overstated his credentials??
    His wiki page is up for deletion as he is perhaps not notable enough…..
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Pieczenik
    Something of a self-promoter????
    Who knows. The usual truther sites do, that’s for sure!

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  22. questions says:

    A 2001 Salon look at the issues in the post above. All murkier than the MIT/HARVARD dude referred to above seems to hold. Beware the invocation of Cambridge, MA.
    http://www.salon.com/people/feature/2001/11/09/marfan
    and a different look that suggests osteoporosis, not the above.
    Diagnosis at a distance is never a good idea, and diagnosis for a disease that seems to be difficult to diagnose would seem to be even less a good idea. Unless you have Cambridge, MA on your resume, I guess.
    I would imagine there are many more googlable items on the topic.

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  23. DakotabornKansan says:

    The Bin Laden Bump and OBL

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  24. Cee says:

    Very funny. Every time my sister sees you on any show she rings me up to let me know. She’s a new fan.
    Now, since Jon brings up the other doubters, he is another one
    Wednesday, May 4, 2011
    Top Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag
    Paul Joseph Watson
    Infowars.com
    May 4, 2011
    Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag 040511top
    Top US government insider Dr. Steve R. Pieczenik, a man who held numerous different influential positions under three different Presidents and still works with the Defense Department, shockingly told The Alex Jones Show yesterday that Osama Bin Laden died in 2001 and that he was prepared to testify in front of a grand jury how a top general told him directly that 9/11 was a false flag inside job.
    Pieczenik cannot be dismissed as a

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