Here is an interesting snippet of a Blogginheads Diavlog between Jacob Heilbrunn and Eli Lake that the New York Times ran this morning.
Here is the longer, 63 minute long exchange.
I particularly like Heilbrunn’s comments at the end of this clip about John McCain’s absorption of the neocon ethic — and the fatal mistake that neocons in the Bush administration made in confusing the actions of “discrete groups of terrorists” with states.
Heilbrunn is the author of the must-read They Knew They Were Right: The Rise of the Neocons, and Eli Lake is Washington Correspondent for the New York Sun and recently wrote this take on Obama’s foreign policy team.
— Steve Clemons